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2012-10-05 08:49:17 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: It is not about the content, it is about the way TV shows are made, including SS. It is frequent switching between characters and scenes that trains brains to be stimulated by quick changes and reduces interest in focusing on things...voila...ADHD training.


That is THE CONTENT. Wow you are stupid.
 
2012-10-05 08:51:31 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: James!: If education is a priority in America then PBS should be a priority in America.

Sure. If you want to ignore all the research about how bad TV is for young children, particularly how is training kids to be more ADHD (due to the lack of attention on one area of focus).


You are a Renaissance Man, you manage to be ignorant on every single subject you comment on.
 
2012-10-05 08:51:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Brilliant rebuttal of how a highly profitable business needs government subsidies ("I know, but I won't tell you")


Umm PBS is a NON-PROFIT shiat head.
 
2012-10-05 08:53:37 PM

Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:

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Hey some of my ascii porn is huge
 
2012-10-05 08:54:00 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: cameroncrazy1984: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: If education is a priority in America then PBS should be a priority in America.

Sure. If you want to ignore all the research about how bad TV is for young children, particularly how is training kids to be more ADHD (due to the lack of attention on one area of focus).

Please, point to this research that claims Sesame Street is bad for young children. I'm sure there's reams of it.

Here.

It is not about the content, it is about the way TV shows are made, including SS. It is frequent switching between characters and scenes that trains brains to be stimulated by quick changes and reduces interest in focusing on things...voila...ADHD training.

Explains in part the rise of ADHD.


That study was from 2004, you don't know what you are talking about, please stop acting like you do.

Can watching too much TV cause ADHD?

Past studies indicate that too much TV may be associated with ADHD. But some newer studies show that time spent watching TV may not affect young kids' risk of developing ADHD.

In one study, experts reviewed data from a national survey of parents, teachers, kindergarteners, and first-grade students. They concluded that kindergartener's TV time was not linked to the chance of having attention problems in first grade.
 
2012-10-05 08:54:22 PM

Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:


He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.

I thought Tyson was supposed to be smart?
 
2012-10-05 08:54:58 PM

MithrandirBooga: [img.photobucket.com image 600x600]


DID HE REALLY SAY WE NEED TO RAISE MILITARY *TO* 4% OF GDP?
 
2012-10-05 08:55:35 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: MithrandirBooga: [img.photobucket.com image 600x600]

DID HE REALLY SAY WE NEED TO RAISE MILITARY *TO* 4% OF GDP?


*spending
 
2012-10-05 08:56:12 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:

He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.

I thought Tyson was supposed to be smart?


Which explains why Romney wants to increase military spending by $210 billion a year.
 
2012-10-05 08:56:32 PM
I have a question. I keep hearing how Romney "won" the debate, I am not going to argue that. But I hear a lot about 2 things from the debate:

A) The outcry of Romney wanting to cut PBS

B) Romney lying about his tax cuts/ not tax cuts.

I haven't heard one thing from the actual debate against Obama other than "he lost". What anti-Obama talking point from the debate is being talked about other than the generic "he lost"?

I am curious. It seems like people really are not talking about anything anything specific. Nothing seemed to have stuck except the points against Romney.

I wonder if this is like a bad action move where you get out of it and go "that was great" but then 10 mins later you think about it and realize it sucked.
 
2012-10-05 08:58:19 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.


Good point. What are Romney's thousands of other bites?

Oh yeah he has none. He in fact wants to spend trillions more on tax cuts, military spending and hand outs to the medical industry.
 
2012-10-05 08:59:14 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: MithrandirBooga: [img.photobucket.com image 600x600]

DID HE REALLY SAY WE NEED TO RAISE MILITARY *TO* 4% OF GDP?


Why yes, yes he did.
 
2012-10-05 08:59:20 PM
The best show I have seen explaining ADD (my step kid has it) was "Mastering ADD"... on PBS.

tenpoundsofstupid should google before he types stupid things.
 
2012-10-05 08:59:32 PM

MithrandirBooga: The All-Powerful Atheismo: MithrandirBooga: [img.photobucket.com image 600x600]

DID HE REALLY SAY WE NEED TO RAISE MILITARY *TO* 4% OF GDP?

Why yes, yes he did.


THAT MAKES ME ANGRY.
 
2012-10-05 09:00:35 PM

mrshowrules: fusillade762: The pungent stench of limburger fills this thread.

Check out this TFD thread from yesterday. You will understand my point I think. Link


I know this comes as no surprise to anyone, but, Christ, what an asshole.
 
2012-10-05 09:00:42 PM

jst3p: The best show I have seen explaining ADD (my step kid has it) was "Mastering ADD"... on PBS.

tenpoundsofstupid should google before he types stupid things.


He revels in being wrong and stupid. That's the thing I don't understand he gets his ass handed to him in every thread and never has the cognitive dissonance to go "Wow my talking points are almost always wrong maybe I am being lied to".
 
2012-10-05 09:01:57 PM

Corvus: jst3p: The best show I have seen explaining ADD (my step kid has it) was "Mastering ADD"... on PBS.

tenpoundsofstupid should google before he types stupid things.

He revels in being wrong and stupid. That's the thing I don't understand he gets his ass handed to him in every thread and never has the cognitive dissonance to go "Wow my talking points are almost always wrong maybe I am being lied to".


The most probable explanation is that he knows he is lying and doesn't care.
 
2012-10-05 09:01:57 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I would suspect that every dollar spent on early education pays off better than any other investment the federal government makes. And that includes Congressional salaries.


I agree. I was born in 1966, and almost everybody in my Kindergarten came into it with some pretty developed reading and math skills because of PBS (and Jim Henson, in particular). All of us are who were 'advanced' because of PBS continued to be 2 or 3 grades ahead in reading and math all throughout K-8. It wasn't just Sesame Street. SS progressed to Electric Company, progressed to Zoom and Carrascolendas, progressed to a Bill Nye type of science guy show, then all the animal and space and history and arts you could want. Hell, you could even see home repair and carpentry shows, which I dug in 7th grade because I was in a construction class.

As an adjunct to the classroom, the cost/benefit analysis for PBS for K-8, or K-12 for that matter, can't be beat. Period. You'd think a big-time business guy could do a cost/benefit analysis... unless he doesn't really care about the cost or the benefit, and really just cares about cutting funding for them elitist, liberal, socialist PBS people to score election points among the idiot caste.
 
2012-10-05 09:03:42 PM

Corvus: I have a question. I keep hearing how Romney "won" the debate, I am not going to argue that. But I hear a lot about 2 things from the debate:

A) The outcry of Romney wanting to cut PBS

B) Romney lying about his tax cuts/ not tax cuts.

I haven't heard one thing from the actual debate against Obama other than "he lost". What anti-Obama talking point from the debate is being talked about other than the generic "he lost"?

I am curious. It seems like people really are not talking about anything anything specific. Nothing seemed to have stuck except the points against Romney.

I wonder if this is like a bad action move where you get out of it and go "that was great" but then 10 mins later you think about it and realize it sucked.


Romney "won" the debate but no one will care. On top of the negative attention it is bringing Romney and todays unemployment numbers any benefit from the debate is already long gone.
 
2012-10-05 09:03:55 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:

He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.

I thought Tyson was supposed to be smart?


Why not cut military spending? One F-35B fighter costs $237.7 million.
 
2012-10-05 09:04:20 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-05 09:06:02 PM
These - right wingers - are the same people who will claim that "ERMAHGERD RAISING TAXES ON BILLIONAIRES TO 39% WILL NOT REDUCE THE DEFICIT ENOUGH SO LETS NOT DO IT!"

Idiots.
 
2012-10-05 09:06:48 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot.


Freudian slip?

/surprised no one else noticed this
 
2012-10-05 09:07:51 PM

jst3p: The most probable explanation is that he knows he is lying and doesn't care.


You think that's true but it's not. I have meet many people like him in real life. When you talk to them they don't actually use logic to make decisions. It is just a mass of talking points from "their team". When they are shown to be wrong they get mad and jump to a different talking point. What is common among them is they lack an ability to make a coherent argument. A rational person will make points that then support their argument, they don't really work that way. Instead it's just a web of unsupported talking points to support their world view. If you knock one away they just move to the next one. They love to make generalized attacks like "Obama is a socialist" but when you ask them the details like "What has he done socialistic that no other president has done" they just move to another generalization. They really don't get the opinions are to be supported by facts.

It's like arguing with a sport fan zealot of another team "who's team is better" it's more about identify with their team then about substantial evidence.
 
2012-10-05 09:08:48 PM

jst3p: Corvus: jst3p: The best show I have seen explaining ADD (my step kid has it) was "Mastering ADD"... on PBS.

tenpoundsofstupid should google before he types stupid things.

He revels in being wrong and stupid. That's the thing I don't understand he gets his ass handed to him in every thread and never has the cognitive dissonance to go "Wow my talking points are almost always wrong maybe I am being lied to".

The most probable explanation is that he knows he is lying and doesn't care.



This is how all Republicans I know personally operate. If I point out how they are lying they either reply:

1) Your link is liberally biased, or
2) So what, at least it's better than being a liberal


They literally do not care if they are caught lying. It's all about winning. That's the problem with a party that has embraced Machiavellianism. The worst part is when they pretend to be the moral party. Though I suppose it's easy to act like you're moral if you're not really concerned about lying.
 
2012-10-05 09:12:47 PM

Corvus: jst3p: The most probable explanation is that he knows he is lying and doesn't care.

You think that's true but it's not. I have meet many people like him in real life. When you talk to them they don't actually use logic to make decisions. It is just a mass of talking points from "their team". When they are shown to be wrong they get mad and jump to a different talking point. What is common among them is they lack an ability to make a coherent argument. A rational person will make points that then support their argument, they don't really work that way. Instead it's just a web of unsupported talking points to support their world view. If you knock one away they just move to the next one. They love to make generalized attacks like "Obama is a socialist" but when you ask them the details like "What has he done socialistic that no other president has done" they just move to another generalization. They really don't get the opinions are to be supported by facts.

It's like arguing with a sport fan zealot of another team "who's team is better" it's more about identify with their team then about substantial evidence.


What pisses me off is people like that have a vote that counts exactly as much as mine does. "All men are created equally" is a nice thing to say but even casual observation of a group of people clearly shows it isn't true. The people who wrote the Constitution knew this, which is why the President and, in the begining Senators, were not directly elected by "the people".
 
2012-10-05 09:13:16 PM

MithrandirBooga: This is how all Republicans I know personally operate. If I point out how they are lying they either reply:

1) Your link is liberally biased, or
2) So what, at least it's better than being a liberal


They literally do not care if they are caught lying. It's all about winning. That's the problem with a party that has embraced Machiavellianism. The worst part is when they pretend to be the moral party. Though I suppose it's easy to act like you're moral if you're not really concerned about lying.


Yep! I find this to be true.

Once I pointed out to a co-worker that his Obama "outrage" was something every other US president did (in fact it was even better than past presidents) his reply, I kid you not, was "Sieg heil" and giving a Hitler salute as to say Obama is like Hitler.

That was his out from learning he had been wrong to imply Obama is Hitler.

I used to think these people were uninformed, now i realize they are actually crazy.
 
2012-10-05 09:14:45 PM

jst3p: What pisses me off is people like that have a vote that counts exactly as much as mine does. "All men are created equally" is a nice thing to say but even casual observation of a group of people clearly shows it isn't true. The people who wrote the Constitution knew this, which is why the President and, in the begining Senators, were not directly elected by "the people".


It something the logical smart people need to realize that these people exist and realize any amount of logic will not ever change their mind. And I would say they are about 20% of the population.
 
2012-10-05 09:15:06 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:

He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.

I thought Tyson was supposed to be smart?


So you're for increasing taxes on the wealthy by 3.9% then, since every little helps?
 
2012-10-05 09:17:55 PM

The Why Not Guy: tenpoundsofcheese, whatever they pay you is simultaneously too much and not enough.


Schrodinger's Paycheck!

/I know that reference because of "NOVA" and "Cosmos" and "Connections" - Thank You PBS!
 
2012-10-05 09:23:09 PM

Aquapope: /I know that reference because of "NOVA" and "Cosmos" and "Connections" - Thank You PBS!


And with your generous donation, you can ensure that future generations will also get that reference...as well as get this free nifty tote bag! 

/Begathon season should be coming up fairly soon
 
2012-10-05 09:24:27 PM
In the next thread, TPoC comes out against puppies, kittens, bikini carwashes and orgasms.

And some of you would probably bite into that too.
 
2012-10-05 09:32:39 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:

He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.

I thought Tyson was supposed to be smart?


When, in order to save space, you delete the 6kb txt file rather than the 20gb game that, not only do you not play anymore, but may not be able to run on your computer due to upgrades, you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-10-05 09:36:05 PM

vernonFL: Try not to get choked up by this video of Big Bird at Jim Henson's funeral.


Damn dude. Being in those things is hard enough as is; the heat, humidity, difficulty moving properly, restricted vision. You can hear that poor man trying not to break down and cry in there. What a trooper.

/tried not to get choked up
//failed
 
2012-10-05 09:40:19 PM
Fact: The CPB gets about 450 million bucks in federal subsidies this year, which goes very far in educating our population (of all ages) and provides very unbiased journalism. The CPB is always struggling.
Fact: The Oil and Gas industry gets about 41 billion bucks in federal subsidies a year which goes nowhere but into executive pockets because those subsidies go directly to the bottom line. The Oil and Gas industry is not having any problems financially right now (or at anytime in the last few decades) other than making sure they can get huge profits.
 
2012-10-05 09:41:03 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Makh: The amount of money that PBS gets from the government compared to the budget, is like talking about cleaning up your house after storm damage and then throwing out the tomato from the vegetable crisper.

/Which is only sorta justified because a tomato is not a vegetable.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best:

He's falling for the misunderstanding that little bites don't add up to alot. Not singling out PBS, but every .012% counts. Ignoring the little things is how governments end up with a $trillion deficit and individuals end up bankrupt.

I thought Tyson was supposed to be smart?

So you're for increasing taxes on the wealthy by 3.9% then, since every little helps?


I'm in favor of doing away with ALL the bush and Obama tax cuts. How's that sound?
 
2012-10-05 09:41:21 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: cameroncrazy1984: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: If education is a priority in America then PBS should be a priority in America.

Sure. If you want to ignore all the research about how bad TV is for young children, particularly how is training kids to be more ADHD (due to the lack of attention on one area of focus).

Please, point to this research that claims Sesame Street is bad for young children. I'm sure there's reams of it.

Here.

It is not about the content, it is about the way TV shows are made, including SS. It is frequent switching between characters and scenes that trains brains to be stimulated by quick changes and reduces interest in focusing on things...voila...ADHD training.

Explains in part the rise of ADHD.


As a parent of a child with ADHD let me say you and your study are wrong. You cannot equate Sesame Street and educational programs with shows like Sponge Bob or other programs. I personally learned the alphabet, numbers and phonetic sounds from Sesame Street. I fondly remember sitting in front of the television and singing along with the show. I sat in front of the tv with my sons and now grandchildren while they did the same thing. Sesame Street teaches in a more easily absorbed and longer lasting way than a conventional classroom setting. No study can convince me that my own life experience is wrong. My son did not develop ADHD because he watched an educational show. It was one of few times he really slowed down and payed attention.

I have my own theories about ADHD but it sure as hell can't be blamed on Sesame Street or PBS. We need MORE educational programming considering schools stopped teaching phonics. I had to teach my own sons to read and spell because schools went to that "whole learning" crap. Oh Gosh, don't even get me started. Schools and lazy teachers don't teach. Now Republicans want to do away with PBS. They even brag about ending the department of education! God help us.
 
2012-10-05 09:49:40 PM

Aquapope: Fact: The CPB gets about 450 million bucks in federal subsidies this year, which goes very far in educating our population (of all ages) and provides very unbiased journalism. The CPB is always struggling.
Fact: The Oil and Gas industry gets about 41 billion bucks in federal subsidies a year which goes nowhere but into executive pockets because those subsidies go directly to the bottom line. The Oil and Gas industry is not having any problems financially right now (or at anytime in the last few decades) other than making sure they can get huge profits.


Look how stupid you are.

"unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers. Just like fox seems "fair and balanced" to delusional right wingers.

How much of the oil and gas "subsidies" are actually reductions in taxes paid by the oil and gas industry? How much are to incentivize exploration that results in lower costs at the pump than otherwise would be? Protip: cuts in taxes paid to fund govt outlays are not the same as govt outlays.

Seriously, wake up and think. You don't have to be a blindly partisan shill your whole life.
 
2012-10-05 09:50:56 PM

Corvus: jst3p: The most probable explanation is that he knows he is lying and doesn't care.

You think that's true but it's not. I have meet many people like him in real life. When you talk to them they don't actually use logic to make decisions.



If Romney used logic to make decisions, he wouldn't be a Mormon. He actually believes his own shiat because his success in life (not due to him in the least) validates his opinions. No logic needed.
 
2012-10-05 09:52:58 PM

taxandspend: tenpoundsofcheese: James!: If education is a priority in America then PBS should be a priority in America.

Sure. If you want to ignore all the research about how bad TV is for young children, particularly how is training kids to be more ADHD (due to the lack of attention on one area of focus).

How do you train kids to develop a learning disorder?


He thinks because it worked on him and his siblings, it works on all kids.
 
2012-10-05 09:55:59 PM
Mitt Romney can't help to not be an assh*le. Why even say it? Why insult the moderator? Why feed the "I like to fire people" persona?
 
2012-10-05 09:59:15 PM

Corvus: They love to make generalized attacks like "Obama is a socialist" but when you ask them the details like "What has he done socialistic that no other president has done" they just move to another generalization.


This kills me: If Obama were really socialist wouldn't he have nationalized the healthcare industry instead of basically turning it over to the for-profit insurance industry? Somehow this big capitalist boon to insurance is socialist. If he were socialist wouldn't he have nationalized the banking and automotive industries in perpetuity, instead of pulling them up by the bootstraps they should have been death-gripped on themselves? If Obama were truly socialist, wouldn't there be a couple of hundred felonious (or just plain greedy) senior execs looking at jail time if only to let the others know who's the real economic power in this country?
 
2012-10-05 10:05:44 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: "unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers


Do you have examples of PBS showing the same bias for the left that Fox News does for the right?
 
2012-10-05 10:12:49 PM

Mrtraveler01: Debeo Summa Credo: "unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers

Do you have examples of PBS showing the same bias for the left that Fox News does for the right?


The alphabet has a liberal bias. It puts L SIX WHOLE LETTERS before R!
 
2012-10-05 10:15:26 PM

MithrandirBooga: jst3p: Corvus: jst3p: The best show I have seen explaining ADD (my step kid has it) was "Mastering ADD"... on PBS.

tenpoundsofstupid should google before he types stupid things.

He revels in being wrong and stupid. That's the thing I don't understand he gets his ass handed to him in every thread and never has the cognitive dissonance to go "Wow my talking points are almost always wrong maybe I am being lied to".

The most probable explanation is that he knows he is lying and doesn't care.


This is how all Republicans I know personally operate. If I point out how they are lying they either reply:

1) Your link is liberally biased, or
2) So what, at least it's better than being a liberal


They literally do not care if they are caught lying. It's all about winning. That's the problem with a party that has embraced Machiavellianism. The worst part is when they pretend to be the moral party. Though I suppose it's easy to act like you're moral if you're not really concerned about lying.


I have noticed this too with a few coworkers. Every time I tell someone something I go home and back my argument up with an article I found on Fark. I gave this guy three websites and the next day he says they lied. I told him, you spurt out all these talking points, back them up like I do for you. He didn't talk to me the rest of the day.
 
2012-10-05 10:27:24 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Aquapope: Fact: The CPB gets about 450 million bucks in federal subsidies this year, which goes very far in educating our population (of all ages) and provides very unbiased journalism. The CPB is always struggling.
Fact: The Oil and Gas industry gets about 41 billion bucks in federal subsidies a year which goes nowhere but into executive pockets because those subsidies go directly to the bottom line. The Oil and Gas industry is not having any problems financially right now (or at anytime in the last few decades) other than making sure they can get huge profits.

Look how stupid you are.

"unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers. Just like fox seems "fair and balanced" to delusional right wingers.

How much of the oil and gas "subsidies" are actually reductions in taxes paid by the oil and gas industry? How much are to incentivize exploration that results in lower costs at the pump than otherwise would be? Protip: cuts in taxes paid to fund govt outlays are not the same as govt outlays.

Seriously, wake up and think. You don't have to be a blindly partisan shill your whole life.


You have no idea what the CPB is, do you? Be honest now.
 
2012-10-05 10:28:12 PM
The Republicans don't give a shiat about the budget or the debt. It's just their way of getting rid of NPR, PBS and Planned Parenthood.

Once they've gotten rid of those things, that'll be the end of their "hard choices" on spending.
 
2012-10-05 10:28:55 PM

Mrtraveler01: Debeo Summa Credo: "unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers

Do you have examples of PBS showing the same bias for the left that Fox News does for the right?


???? Yeah, I keep a running set of video tapes with a split screen analysis of NPR and fox with a running tally of "bias points". I'd post it but it's about 300 hours of tape. Do you have any examples of public broadcasting always being less biased than fox
News?
 
2012-10-05 10:35:09 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Mrtraveler01: Debeo Summa Credo: "unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers

Do you have examples of PBS showing the same bias for the left that Fox News does for the right?

???? Yeah, I keep a running set of video tapes with a split screen analysis of NPR and fox with a running tally of "bias points". I'd post it but it's about 300 hours of tape. Do you have any examples of public broadcasting always being less biased than fox
News?


Do you have evidence that you're not a porn star from Saturn?
 
2012-10-05 10:36:24 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: "unbiased journalism"?! Of course a left wing news source seems unbiased to delusional left wingers. Just like fox seems "fair and balanced" to delusional right wingers.


No, PBS injects very little opinion in their journalism. Their opinion pieces are, by definition, biased, but when they say what happened and who said what, actual journalism, it's usually on the mark without anything in the way of opinion or bias.

Debeo Summa Credo: How much of the oil and gas "subsidies" are actually reductions in taxes paid by the oil and gas industry? How much are to incentivize exploration that results in lower costs at the pump than otherwise would be? Protip: cuts in taxes paid to fund govt outlays are not the same as govt outlays.


Exploration should be a standard business expense for the Oil and Gas industry. Does the Fed subsidize Wal*Mart when they need to find more sources for crap to retail (actually they might....)? What about the small business guy when he needs to find a new supplier? The point of fact is that the Oil and Gas Industry is plenty wealthy enough to fund their own exploration. "Gosh, if only we had 41 billion bucks we could expand those oil fields and produce 42 billion bucks a year? Screw K-12 breakfast and lunch funds, screw Sesame Street, we NEED the federal government to survive." Do you ever hear about Oil and Gas ONLY succeeding because of Federal help?

Bullshiat.

By the way, reducing taxes owed is EXACTLY the same as giving away free money. It goes to the bottom line and can be used for anything, considering that all other expenses were accounted for in budgets. Sometimes, those tax cuts may be earmarked ONLY for exploration and development, that just means the company has to spend that much less of un-earmarked money for those things. And some senior exec always needs a new home or boat or plane... and P&L proof that they 'earned' that 200 million buck bonus.
 
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