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2012-10-05 06:48:51 PM

mrshowrules: I was with a guy named Jimmy John. I've met Jimmy John. Jimmy John, hope I get the story entirely right, I think I will, he graduated from high school, and he didn't want to go to college. And he said to his Dad can I borrow some money I want to start ...


Mr. Showrules, I knew Jimmy John. Jimmy John was a friend of mine. You, Mr. Showrules, are no Jimmy John.
 
2012-10-05 06:51:07 PM
So everyone agrees the index cards were in the hanky and the use of the hanky was just for show. Good to know.
 
2012-10-05 06:51:32 PM

dready zim: PallMall: JusticeandIndependence:

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PLEASE do not make this an argument. Just stop already.

FTFY

twat.

badaboom: Red_Fox: Via Infinito: Is it really a stretch to realize that he's also a cheating sack of shiat?

I just assume that every super rich 'captain of industry' is a lying cheating douchebag.

You do realize that is the same exact thought process racists and homophobes have, right?

No it isn`t. Judging someone for their actions is not the same as judging someone for parts of themselves that they cannot change. Twat.

NateGrey: The poorly educated where never supposed to vote because they where not sophisticated enough

where?

lennavan: Clearly you're not exactly MENSA material, are you?

I`m in Mensa, and I think notes can be in things you know?

Having one thing does not prove you don`t have another thing. Sort of like a cover, or smokescreen to give a boring and ordinary thing for people to say `that`s what it was` when they see you get something out of your pocket.

Do you think that it`s important to not show paper from your pocket? how to work this... I know! Put it in a hankie!

without being there, there is no way to prove either way.

Continue your wanky derpfest fark.

PsiChick: Typing ITS NOT A FARKING CHEAT SHEET is neither evidence nor even mildly convincing. It just makes me laugh harder.

Just read this after typing above. This makes me laugh.

We can laugh at them together ;)

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Being rich is an action?

Here is a simple one for you: Can a rich person be as moral and virtuous as a poor person? And the corollary, is every poor person moral?
 
2012-10-05 06:52:24 PM

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PLEASE do not make this an argument. Just stop already.


Could be an ether rag...that's a thing in Mormonism, right? Huffing ether?
 
2012-10-05 06:53:07 PM

sprawl15: JusticeandIndependence: Treygreen13: PallMall: JusticeandIndependence:

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PLEASE do not make this an argument. Just stop already.

FTFY

WTF is wrong with you?

Please leave me out of it. I had nothing to do with this.

I have already reported you for racism.


Can I report you for being a humorless douche?
 
2012-10-05 06:53:17 PM

Silverstaff: badaboom: Sorry we were talking about broken promises. A broken promise is a broken promise.

Well, he did everything in his power to close down the prison at Guantanamo Bay.

Congress actively blocked him every step of the way. Most recently Section 1028 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 ()Link explicitly prohibits prisoners from Guantanamo Bay being transferred to the United States. Unless we have another overseas prison to keep them at (which defeats the purpose), we can't close Gitmo.

Can't fault a man for doing everything he could to fill a promise, but be cut off legally from doing so by the other party. Odd, the President tries to accomplish his campaign promise, is thwarted by the Republicans, then the Republicans try to say he's a bad President for not completing his promise.

You want us to believe that Obama was at fault for not magically making Congress approve the shutdown?


Hmmm....if only he had control at one point in his Presidency of both the House and Senate. Then surely he would have been able to achieve this. If only.....
 
2012-10-05 06:54:30 PM
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So the real news is that Romney's a bit of a drooler.
 
2012-10-05 06:56:44 PM

badaboom: dready zim: PallMall: JusticeandIndependence:

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PLEASE do not make this an argument. Just stop already.

FTFY

twat.

badaboom: Red_Fox: Via Infinito: Is it really a stretch to realize that he's also a cheating sack of shiat?

I just assume that every super rich 'captain of industry' is a lying cheating douchebag.

You do realize that is the same exact thought process racists and homophobes have, right?

No it isn`t. Judging someone for their actions is not the same as judging someone for parts of themselves that they cannot change. Twat.

NateGrey: The poorly educated where never supposed to vote because they where not sophisticated enough

where?

lennavan: Clearly you're not exactly MENSA material, are you?

I`m in Mensa, and I think notes can be in things you know?

Having one thing does not prove you don`t have another thing. Sort of like a cover, or smokescreen to give a boring and ordinary thing for people to say `that`s what it was` when they see you get something out of your pocket.

Do you think that it`s important to not show paper from your pocket? how to work this... I know! Put it in a hankie!

without being there, there is no way to prove either way.

Continue your wanky derpfest fark.

PsiChick: Typing ITS NOT A FARKING CHEAT SHEET is neither evidence nor even mildly convincing. It just makes me laugh harder.

Just read this after typing above. This makes me laugh.

We can laugh at them together ;)

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Being rich is an action?

Here is a simple one for you: Can a rich person be as moral and virtuous as a poor person? And the corollary, is every poor person moral?


Well, we all know that the rich person is not getting into heaven, that's for sure! They can buy their own heaven. So, yeah...
 
2012-10-05 06:57:59 PM

vrax: badaboom: vrax: badaboom: vrax: badaboom: chatikh: I don't understand why all the media is saying Romney won the debate. He made lots and lots of claims, but I didn't believe any of it because he couldn't answer the simple question, "How?" Saying you can magically fix the economy but not answering how you're going to magically fix the economy isn't winning. Because I really think he either doesn't know how or he is completely lying about it.

As opposed to what Obama said? What did Obama say that impressed you?

Obama's performance wasn't impressive. In his attempt to remain mostly on the side of fact he couldn't quite compete with the bullshiat explosion coming from Romney. Maybe he should have guaranteed that he'd pay off every mortgage in the US, have a military base on Mars, and cure cancer by 2014 if elected. With that immense level of BS he'd have won the debate for sure!

Um, this is the same President that promised to insure 30 million more people AND save money. Obama runs on promises he knows he can not keep. . He couldn't even close Gitmo. How would he get a base on Mars?

Just like Romney, and the Cylons, he has a plan!

Did you really bring up Gitmo as Obama's fault?! Wow!

Sorry we were talking about broken promises. A broken promise is a broken promise.

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badaboom: vrax: badaboom: vrax: badaboom: chatikh: I don't understand why all the media is saying Romney won the debate. He made lots and lots of claims, but I didn't believe any of it because he couldn't answer the simple question, "How?" Saying you can magically fix the economy but not answering how you're going to magically fix the economy isn't winning. Because I really think he either doesn't know how or he is completely lying about it.

As opposed to what Obama said? What did Obama say that impressed you?

Obama's performance wasn't impressive. In his attempt to remain mostly on the side of fact he couldn't quite compete with the bullshiat explosion coming from Romney. Maybe he shoul ...


I don't give a shiat why. You promise, you deliver. Any way you can.


No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!
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2012-10-05 06:58:35 PM

gunther_bumpass: mrshowrules: I was with a guy named Jimmy John. I've met Jimmy John. Jimmy John, hope I get the story entirely right, I think I will, he graduated from high school, and he didn't want to go to college. And he said to his Dad can I borrow some money I want to start ...

Mr. Showrules, I knew Jimmy John. Jimmy John was a friend of mine. You, Mr. Showrules, are no Jimmy John.


Well played. Jimmy John approves.

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2012-10-05 06:59:58 PM

TwoHead: If the corporate media isn't going to discuss him lying his ass off all night I rather doubt they'll be interested in talking about him cheating so it doesn't really matter. All the low information voters need to know is Romney kicked Obama's ass and that is all the corporate media is telling them.


The libtard pinko lamestream MSM media strikes again!
 
2012-10-05 07:02:30 PM
Bu..bu... but BIG BIRD!
 
2012-10-05 07:05:12 PM

badaboom: I don't give a shiat why. You promise, you deliver. Any way you can.


Hey, I know this guy. His name is Reality. You two should meet sometime.
 
2012-10-05 07:15:10 PM
Maybe he is not cheating. My first thought is that it is a magical piece of Mormon paper designed to give him a divine edge.
 
2012-10-05 07:17:53 PM

vrax: badaboom: I don't give a shiat why. You promise, you deliver. Any way you can.

Hey, I know this guy. His name is Reality. You two should meet sometime.


Do you know his brother Accountability? He's always talking about how you shouldn't promise something unless you know you can deliver it. He's kind of a buzzkill, to tell you the truth.
 
2012-10-05 07:25:19 PM

CreamFilling: vrax: badaboom: I don't give a shiat why. You promise, you deliver. Any way you can.

Hey, I know this guy. His name is Reality. You two should meet sometime.

Do you know his brother Accountability? He's always talking about how you shouldn't promise something unless you know you can deliver it. He's kind of a buzzkill, to tell you the truth.


Accountability has been trying to meet with the GOP regarding the Gitmo closure, but they don't want to meet with him.
 
2012-10-05 07:29:12 PM

Millennium: You know, I'm starting to hope that Obama wins in the Electoral College but loses the popular vote. I can't think of any outcome that would produce more interesting political discourse than that.


Oh, that'd be great. The entire South would sign on to the NPVIC overnight.
 
2012-10-05 07:34:23 PM
Didn't read many of the posts in this thread, but here is my take:

Assuming for just a moment that it was actually notes that Mitt took out of his pocket and not the handkerchief that it obviously was, what did these notes say? "Remember to refute everything you've said in your entire campaign"? "Medicare savings are really cuts"? "Rate reductions are not tax cuts"? "You don't like the federal government and that's why you want to run it"? "You like teachers this week"? "When asked for specifics, reiterate your five vague talking points"? "Don't stop talking when your time is up"?
 
2012-10-05 07:36:40 PM

FormlessOne: This very rationalization is why the media is giving the debate to Romney - it's not a "debate", it's a friggin' catwalk. Romney looked better than Obama on the catwalk - he lied, he dissembled, and he was clueless, but he looked better and that, apparently, was all that mattered.


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badaboom: But I was told Obama was the greatest orator of our time.


That's because you read crappy partisan sources instead of thinking for yourself.

Personally, I don't give a fark if Romney brought an encyclopedia to the debate. Because even if he did have a cheat sheet, he'd find it almost impossible to use. Just trying to figure out how to read his notes and still pay attention to what's going on around him would be harder than winging it.
 
2012-10-05 07:44:31 PM

chatikh: I don't understand why all the media is saying Romney won the debate. He made lots and lots of claims, but I didn't believe any of it because he couldn't answer the simple question, "How?" Saying you can magically fix the economy but not answering how you're going to magically fix the economy isn't winning. Because I really think he either doesn't know how or he is completely lying about it.


Obviously, Mormon Magic Underwear has super-secret powers we non-Mormons aren't privy to, like fixing the economy and making the Osmonds popular.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:55 PM

lennavan: LATER IN THE DEBATE MITT ROMNEY SNIFFED HIS CHEATING NOTES HOLY CRAP THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE THAT DESERVES ALL OF OUR ATTENTION


Actually I think he was sniffing a pair of Ann's magic underwear.
 
2012-10-05 08:16:37 PM
Who said they're not supposed to bring notes?
 
2012-10-05 08:26:43 PM
Notes or not. I can't stand the way he talks. It's like a bad nightmare from my childhood. If you aren't Mormon or have never been to a Mormon church you might not catch it. But he speaks with a smug cadence that is unmistakably they way Mormon authorities speak. It's like listening to what they call General Conference. Bishop Romney isn't running for President, he's running to get a place in the general authorities. (look it up)
/he was a Mormon Bishop so he's still Bishop Romney to a lot of people
//never question an elder
 
2012-10-05 08:35:09 PM

MacWizard: Didn't read many of the posts in this thread, but here is my take:

Assuming for just a moment that it was actually notes that Mitt took out of his pocket and not the handkerchief that it obviously was, what did these notes say? "Remember to refute everything you've said in your entire campaign"? "Medicare savings are really cuts"? "Rate reductions are not tax cuts"? "You don't like the federal government and that's why you want to run it"? "You like teachers this week"? "When asked for specifics, reiterate your five vague talking points"? "Don't stop talking when your time is up"?


If anything it would have been index cards with specific points wrapped in a hanky. Do I think he did that? .... I wouldn't put it past him at all. Am I saying he did that? No. The cards would be nothing but his zingers, stats and talking points. Do I care? Well.... I wouldn't like the integrity of the horse and pony show to be breached any more than it already is. Does my opinion matter? Not in the least...
 
2012-10-05 08:57:55 PM

kimwim: AdolfOliverPanties: Can't see the vid at work, so I can't comment on what it shows.

Do I think Romney is above cheating? No.

Besides, he's told so many lies, he probably needs notes to keep them all straight.

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I'm not really one to defend R'money, but that "paper" looks too oddly-shaped to actually be paper. Of course, it's difficult to tell with that pic. Also, it makes no sense to have a handkerchief on your podium. Did he ever use it? I don't remember seeing him mop his forehead or anything.

So...I donno. Wouldn't put cheating past him, though....
 
2012-10-05 09:01:16 PM

jigger: Biness: BACKTRACED!

It's funny because that guy is dead now.


Whoa. I had no idea. Good night backtracy guy
 
2012-10-05 09:13:27 PM

nyseattitude: So everyone agrees the index cards were in the hanky and the use of the hanky was just for show. Good to know.


No, it was just a hanky. He used it to spit out the bone conduction mic at the end to hide it.
 
2012-10-05 09:22:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Romney's Handkerchief is the opposite of Occam's Razor. The most nonsensical, convoluted, farking stupid explanation is likely the correct one on the internet.
 
2012-10-05 09:24:34 PM
I image that place was wired up better than a Vegas Casino with video and audio, if he attempted to place notes on the table, I imagine we would have heard about this through more legitimate sources than speculation and blurry pictures which could showing anything from notes to Casper the Friendly Ghost...
 
2012-10-05 09:26:38 PM
That really was a handkerchief Romney pulls out of his pocket. But before the debate Romney rubbed it all over his crotch. When Romney wiped his nose with it, he was really smelling his crotch, thereby giving himself somewhat of a second wind. Duh. This isn't difficult, sheeple.
 
2012-10-05 09:58:54 PM
Doesn't matter what Romney says or does, I don't feel like being in a misogynist, homophobic, Christian theocratic, rich man's paradise that starts World War III on behalf of Israel.

Why do people want this so badly?
 
2012-10-05 10:16:27 PM
why would you put a handkerchief on the table before you need to use it? has Mitt ever made a speech in which he dropped a handkerchief on the podium before he began to speak? Why did he use the handkerchief?

It makes a lot of sense that his notes were concealed inside the handkerchief, and that his ostentatious use of the handkerchief was a very good alibi.

As for those who suggest why would he do this if he might get caught, the answer is that he didn't get caught, he got away with it because it was a real smooth cheat.

It's pretty obvious he smuggled notes, and I give props to Mitt on how he did it. It's a smooth cheat and in my book, if you don't get caught, then I won't accuse you of anything. Well played Mitt.

Let's see if Mitt tries to run the same one again. In my experience cheats will continue running the same cheat if it worked once before.

And it's not like Mitt needs notes, but cheaters get a certain thrill in breaking the rules, I don't pretend to understand, but I know they can't help themselves from doing it. Mitt won the debate fair and square, and he may or may have not cheated, but if he did cheat, it was done smooth the way you are supposed to do it.
 
2012-10-05 10:35:46 PM
Obama idiots at work again. He lost, he was u.prepared, he is incompetent.
 
2012-10-05 10:41:19 PM

legalgus: Obama idiots at work again. He lost, he was u.prepared, he is incompetent.


I didn't see the Republicans doing anything to get us out of the recession. They publicly proclaimed that their only intent was to make Obama a one-term president, and they certainly tried their damnedest. Try to stop projecting, dude.
 
2012-10-05 11:08:43 PM
Reminds me of "The Speechalist"

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2012-10-05 11:29:28 PM
As far as lectern/podium goes, I guess with language, appeal to popularity really does rule the day. Soon, loose will be listed as an alternate spelling for lose. Someone had better edit Wikipedia.

1. A common error among speakers is the mistake of referring to the lectern as a "podium". The podium is in fact the raised platform upon which both the speaker and the lectern are standing.

Merriam-Webster, however, bows to lecterns and podiums as being synonymous in their definition as popularly confused.[6]

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2012-10-06 12:07:24 AM
RACHEL FARKING MADDOW is calling out this looney idea. RACHEL FARKING MADDOW.

This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.
 
2012-10-06 12:32:01 AM
Don't know if it has been said, but, in the first video I watched, it looked like something heavier than a handkerchief, yet it appeared to be white and sort-of fluffy. I think that he indeed brought a stack of SMALL index cards wrapped inside of a handkerchief. Yes. He did use a hanky, clearly... But, whatever he threw up on the podium landed like it had WEIGHT to it. Look at the velocity and trajectory of the object.

FWIW
 
2012-10-06 12:54:06 AM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.


So, when is the GOP going to start doing this? Because they are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the derpiest of derp. It's almost like you are required to start a bullshiat war with them just to keep up since the facts don't matter.
 
2012-10-06 01:15:54 AM

vrax: Lee Jackson Beauregard: This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.

So, when is the GOP going to start doing this? Because they are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the derpiest of derp. It's almost like you are required to start a bullshiat war with them just to keep up since the facts don't matter.


They declared 3.5 years ago that THE most important thing, above fixing America and helping the citizens, is to make Obama a one-term president. And they'll do whatever it takes (short of outright assassination, at the moment), to see this goal through.
 
2012-10-06 01:31:55 AM

vrax: Lee Jackson Beauregard: This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.

So, when is the GOP going to start doing this? Because they are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the derpiest of derp. It's almost like you are required to start a bullshiat war with them just to keep up since the facts don't matter.


Pandering to the lowest common denominator of his base.
Romney is not worried about the folks who check facts.
He knows they will never vote for him. Just another buncha folks that don't matter.

I think he may have said that in Derper Code.

Anyway, this is just round 1 of a 3 round cage match that makes WWF look legitimate.
We got siignature moves, but no real tussel. Both tools in character and showing "no strings on me".
I am waiting for one of them to claim they alone can put chicken in every pot.
Any bets on product placement next show?
Next, chairs, tables, maybe ladders.

BTW, shenanigans, if Romney really used that hankie, his makeup would smear.
 
2012-10-06 02:51:21 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: vrax: Lee Jackson Beauregard: This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.

So, when is the GOP going to start doing this? Because they are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the derpiest of derp. It's almost like you are required to start a bullshiat war with them just to keep up since the facts don't matter.

They declared 3.5 years ago that THE most important thing, above fixing America and helping the citizens, is to make Obama a one-term president. And they'll do whatever it takes (short of outright assassination, at the moment), to see this goal through.


Yeah, sadly I know the truth. I keep trying to hope that there's some reason out there, but alas...

snocone: vrax: Lee Jackson Beauregard: This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.

So, when is the GOP going to start doing this? Because they are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the derpiest of derp. It's almost like you are required to start a bullshiat war with them just to keep up since the facts don't matter.

Pandering to the lowest common denominator of his base.
Romney is not worried about the folks who check facts.
He knows they will never vote for him. Just another buncha folks that don't matter.

I think he may have said that in Derper Code.

Anyway, this is just round 1 of a 3 round cage match that makes WWF look legitimate.
We got siignature moves, but no real tussel. Both tools in character and showing "no strings on me".
I am waiting for one of them to claim they alone can put chicken in every pot.
Any bets on product placement next show?
Next, chairs, tables, maybe ladders.

BTW, shenanigans, if Romney really used that hankie, his makeup would smear.


Yeah, the next round should be something. I'm actually excited. It's like waiting for the next episode of Game of Thrones. Will Obama defend Castle Black against the White Walker?! Tune in!
 
2012-10-06 03:43:05 AM

vegasj: well, can't blame him...

I mean look at the other guy s-s-s-s-stuttering when he has no teleprompters or anything to read from.


DRINK!
 
2012-10-06 04:39:46 AM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: RACHEL FARKING MADDOW is calling out this looney idea. RACHEL FARKING MADDOW.

This, dear wingnuts, is how you deal with the loonies on your side. You don't double down. You call a farkhead a farkhead, even if he's supposedly on your side.


Tell her she needs to rush to DailyKos, and Fark. You have a lot of retards running around spewing this crap.
 
2012-10-06 04:56:23 AM

blatz514: Anyone mention Costanza yet?


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2012-10-06 08:00:15 AM
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2012-10-06 08:25:51 AM
The entire debate was in violation of the rules of debate, from moderation to judgment. No, Republicans (and media, and people who watch too many game shows), the fact that Romney surprisingly didn't crap his pants or barf on his tie is not "winning a debate."
 
2012-10-06 09:20:48 AM

thamike: The entire debate was in violation of the rules of debate, from moderation to judgment. No, Republicans (and media, and people who watch too many game shows), the fact that Romney surprisingly didn't crap his pants or barf on his tie is not "winning a debate."


Seriously, the whole thing was a complete affront to civilized communication. Both involved consistently exceeded their time allotments, interrupted each other, spoke about the intents of the other directly, and crooned on about "God bless our troops" and "think of the children" in transparently emotional distraction. Also, there's no such thing as winning a debate. It's not football. A debate has a result, not a victor.
 
2012-10-06 10:48:56 AM

Frederf: Seriously, the whole thing was a complete affront to civilized communication. Both involved consistently exceeded their time allotments, interrupted each other, spoke about the intents of the other directly, and crooned on about "God bless our troops" and "think of the children" in transparently emotional distraction. Also, there's no such thing as winning a debate. It's not football. A debate has a result, not a victor.


Not entirely. The debater with the argument that results in a technically convincing result can be the winner. The result, of course, being a logical argument that wins on its merits. I won the Dred Scott v. Sandford case, unfortunately having to argue the evil side, in an international forensics championship. I won it on the same technicalities that the real one succeeded in using, despite the fact that it was 1993 and we were all addicted to hackeysacks and condoms. It was truly a defeat of my own principles and--to the professor's delight--a negative against her verbal hypothesis (which was the opposite of her real hypothesis).

Obama won that debate on technicality, on fact., despite the fact that he gratuitously coated it with folksy bullsh*t. Jim Lehrer did not moderate a debate. He was the stuttering "other guy" who lives at the dive bar and inserts himself into arguments. There is absolutely nothing that resembles a debate in this past debate, the podiums, time limits, and three people and an audience present being the exception.
 
2012-10-06 12:15:21 PM
Debate Theatre

So far it is a comedy, but may turn tragic.
 
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