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2012-10-05 03:01:20 PM

rufus-t-firefly: randomjsa: The moderator wasn't fair! Romney was lying! Romney isn't behaving like he's suppose to behave! Romney cheated! Obama hadn't had time to adjust to the change in altitude!

To be fair, one of those things is easily proven.

Let's just look at ten of them: 10 Most Shameless Romney Debate Lies -- Debunked


To be fair, it's not like the truth is relevant at all. We learned this from Saint Reagan and his campaign. Well, the Republicans learned it at least, the Democrats need to catch up or figure out a way to make blatantly lying no longer beneficial.
 
2012-10-05 03:01:28 PM

snocone: inner ted: snocone: inner ted: snocone: Purdue_Pete: EyeballKid: DaCaptain19: The desperate battle-cry of the loser..."he cheated!".

You people people who win lout over cheaters don't call them out on their cheating? How odd...

What's to call out? Romney didn't cheat. The man used a hanky! You can see it! You can see him wipe his face with it! He NEVER looked down at any notes. He just stood there and made "your guy" look like a dunce. Period.

This is why eyewitness evidence is so tainted and considered evidence of the lowest priority in court.
You will get to see this in close up and enhanced. You will not like the result.
Until then, watch your stance.

unless you are talking about 9/11 - then eyewitness is iron clad and bullet proof & if you ask for anything other than eyewitness accounts - you are:

birther
tea bagger
tin foil hat wearer
troofer

i'm sure i'm forgetting one or two, but you get the idea

Clown
Can you read a bio?

Now go get a job.

biatch, i'm multitasking like you could only dream of

as for reading your shiatty bio - umm no thanks, don't care that much about you.

back to work

Show me yours, turd.

Anonymous bullchit is so old, and weak.


wtf am i supposed to show you? my turd?

or are wanting to know all about me?

as flattering as that is, i'll have to take the pass

please explain how that changes anything i've said

bonus: i'm on lunch so i can address your silliness straight away
 
2012-10-05 03:01:39 PM

Falin: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: moothemagiccow: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: How many times did Romney throw a handkerchief on the lecturn in the Republican primary debates?

/it's only a podium if you are standing on it, dumbf*cks

Check out #2, dumbfark
https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Apodium

Way to skip over #1 tard. Why is #1 better than #2 again? Oh, and since you are such a whiz, please tell us what the "pod" part of podium comes from.

/yeah you just got pwned

You're not too bright, are you?


Care to elaborate? Or do you go to a lectiatrist when you have something wrong with your feet?
 
2012-10-05 03:03:51 PM

badaboom: Are you the type of person who turn off the TV in the 8th inning because your team is down a run? Yeesh, your "facts" are dubious. Too bad the President is not selected by USA Today and Gallup. Hopefully guys like you stay home since it's in the bag for Obama.


Obama doing a poor job during the debate still doesn't change the fact that only a piece of shiat would support Romney at this point.
 
2012-10-05 03:05:33 PM

RockofAges:
Sounds good to me, tough guy. Your e-penis impresses me enough to stop giving a shiat and get back to my regularly scheduled life.


Which consists mainly of folding pocket squares.
 
2012-10-05 03:06:10 PM

Headso: Gyrfalcon: However, this isn't some kind of "contest" where failure to adhere to "the rules" disqualifies you from further participation. It's not like Romney can be sent home in disgrace even if it was proven true, or gets points taken off his final score.

This is also why complaining about the moderator is a losing argument as well, the debates are not sporting events they are winner take all politicking.


I'm expecting at the next round we'll get someone biatching about a replacement moderator because the original moderator is out on strike....
 
2012-10-05 03:06:23 PM

snocone: PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?

Yes, to attempt(and fail) to cover the phone.
The move is obviously practiced. He makes a poor pick pocket. Guess that is why he sticks to corporate raiding.
Watch his eyes and head movement. He should have practiced a LOT more.
Actually he should control his arrogance, yea, fat farkin' chance.


Wait, what is this phone of which you speak?
 
2012-10-05 03:07:59 PM

CynicalLA: badaboom: Are you the type of person who turn off the TV in the 8th inning because your team is down a run? Yeesh, your "facts" are dubious. Too bad the President is not selected by USA Today and Gallup. Hopefully guys like you stay home since it's in the bag for Obama.

Obama doing a poor job during the debate still doesn't change the fact that only a piece of shiat would support Romney at this point.


Strikes me as similar to the non voting population.
Just no point in continuing the farce, it only encourage more theatre.
 
2012-10-05 03:08:41 PM

Millennium: You know, I'm starting to hope that Obama wins in the Electoral College but loses the popular vote. I can't think of any outcome that would produce more interesting political discourse than that.


I don't know. Romney winning Illinois, especially Chicago, New York, and California, but loosing Utah, half the southern states, and the popular vote, while still winning the electorial college. And exit polls showing that Romney recieved 80% of the black vote.

Or even some obscure third party candidate winning. This would be the most interseting watching the Dems and Repubs trying to figure out what the hell happened.

Or just Obama winning Texas. Watch half the state lose it's mind.
 
2012-10-05 03:08:41 PM

gunther_bumpass: RockofAges:
Sounds good to me, tough guy. Your e-penis impresses me enough to stop giving a shiat and get back to my regularly scheduled life.


Which consists mainly of folding pocket squares.


ohsnap.jpg
 
2012-10-05 03:09:23 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: snocone: PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?

Yes, to attempt(and fail) to cover the phone.
The move is obviously practiced. He makes a poor pick pocket. Guess that is why he sticks to corporate raiding.
Watch his eyes and head movement. He should have practiced a LOT more.
Actually he should control his arrogance, yea, fat farkin' chance.

Wait, what is this phone of which you speak?


The I5 he read his talking points from.
Be patient Grasshopper.
 
2012-10-05 03:09:59 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Falin: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: moothemagiccow: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: How many times did Romney throw a handkerchief on the lecturn in the Republican primary debates?

/it's only a podium if you are standing on it, dumbf*cks

Check out #2, dumbfark
https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Apodium

Way to skip over #1 tard. Why is #1 better than #2 again? Oh, and since you are such a whiz, please tell us what the "pod" part of podium comes from.

/yeah you just got pwned

You're not too bright, are you?

Care to elaborate? Or do you go to a lectiatrist when you have something wrong with your feet?


Okay, I guess I could elaborate, but it's kind of embarassing that you need me to, TBH.

Words mean things. Sometimes words mean things that don't directly relate to the etymology of the word. One of the accepted definitions of podium is synonymous with lectern. Therefore, when you said it's only a podium if you stand on it, you were incorrect. When it was pointed out that you were incorrect, you attempted to prove your case by using two very silly arguments that are simply not true at all:

1. That the first listed definition of a word somehow invalidates the second listed definition of that word
2. That etymology is the only arbiter of what a word can mean

Hope that clarifies things for you.
 
2012-10-05 03:10:02 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: snocone: PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?

Yes, to attempt(and fail) to cover the phone.
The move is obviously practiced. He makes a poor pick pocket. Guess that is why he sticks to corporate raiding.
Watch his eyes and head movement. He should have practiced a LOT more.
Actually he should control his arrogance, yea, fat farkin' chance.

Wait, what who is this phone of which you speak?


FTFY.
 
2012-10-05 03:14:00 PM

Falin: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Falin: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: moothemagiccow: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: How many times did Romney throw a handkerchief on the lecturn in the Republican primary debates?

/it's only a podium if you are standing on it, dumbf*cks

Check out #2, dumbfark
https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Apodium

Way to skip over #1 tard. Why is #1 better than #2 again? Oh, and since you are such a whiz, please tell us what the "pod" part of podium comes from.

/yeah you just got pwned

You're not too bright, are you?

Care to elaborate? Or do you go to a lectiatrist when you have something wrong with your feet?

Okay, I guess I could elaborate, but it's kind of embarassing that you need me to, TBH.

Words mean things. Sometimes words mean things that don't directly relate to the etymology of the word. One of the accepted definitions of podium is synonymous with lectern. Therefore, when you said it's only a podium if you stand on it, you were incorrect. When it was pointed out that you were incorrect, you attempted to prove your case by using two very silly arguments that are simply not true at all:

1. That the first listed definition of a word somehow invalidates the second listed definition of that word
2. That etymology is the only arbiter of what a word can mean

Hope that clarifies things for you.


Every point you tried to make just now was incorrect.
 
2012-10-05 03:16:25 PM

PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?


I'm actually impressed you managed to write something so absurdly pitiful.
 
2012-10-05 03:17:20 PM

HeartBurnKid: inner ted: unless you are talking about 9/11 - then eyewitness is iron clad and bullet proof & if you ask for anything other than eyewitness accounts - you are:

birther
tea bagger
tin foil hat wearer
troofer

i'm sure i'm forgetting one or two, but you get the idea

Are you farking kidding me? All the farking truthers have is "eyewitness evidence". From witnessing third-hand videotapes, even.


well if you are really interested - i'll go on at length

in the meantime: when i brought up the pentagon attack - the vast majority of "evidence" presented was eye witness. but it was treated as if gospel. i had a hard time with that, but of course was flamed for daring to ask a question.

but it's ok. i know. it's fark.
 
2012-10-05 03:18:49 PM
Even if Romney did have cards, unless those cards contained a spell to turn Obama into a zombie, it makes no difference in the outcome of the debate.
 
2012-10-05 03:19:14 PM

wotthefark: It was his jizz rag.


thank you for your contribution.
 
2012-10-05 03:19:15 PM

Podmore: I don't care for Romney, and I generally feel that Republican politicians are more likely to lie, cheat, distort facts, and manipulate voters than Democratic ones. So I especially hate it when liberals jump on something like this and declare it true without the facts. It's fine that the question was raised; if he did cheat, that would be a character issue if nothing else, but credible analysts were saying handkerchief, and he used it later in the debate. To keep saying it was notes is to be like the climate change deniers, who ignore the credible evidence and hang on the lunatic fringe.

It just makes us look bad.


Oo look, my husband called me a credible analyst! Three minutes apart, said basically the same thing. This is why we're so good together. =)
 
2012-10-05 03:20:32 PM
I agree that the debate was pretty weird.
One guy has questionable facts and ethics
The other guy stood there like he found a dick in his pocket that wasn't his.

It was the first of three debates.
It's only a debate.

Nothing changed for me, I'm still voting. These dog and pony shows for the illiterate? They're only handy if you aren't the president and have no record in international anything.
Well, except for stepping on your dick when you're in England.

Has no idea why I wasted that hour watching what amounts to a controlled burn.
 
2012-10-05 03:21:49 PM

GameSprocket: Even if Romney did have cards, unless those cards contained a spell to turn Obama into a zombie, it makes no difference in the outcome of the debate.


You mean Romney was playing D&D up there?
No wonder he was so happy.

/would rather see them play WoW or D&D or even cribbage than this crappy "debate" chit
 
2012-10-05 03:22:25 PM
Hey, maybe Obummer just showed that he is useless without a teleprompter and Mitt kicked his ass. You could have given Osama a computer and a T1 line and he still would have been staring at the floor and getting beaten like a red headed step child.
 
2012-10-05 03:22:44 PM
Naybe just a nice golf match?

No cheating there.
 
2012-10-05 03:22:55 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Falin: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Falin: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: moothemagiccow: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: How many times did Romney throw a handkerchief on the lecturn in the Republican primary debates?

/it's only a podium if you are standing on it, dumbf*cks

Check out #2, dumbfark
https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Apodium

Way to skip over #1 tard. Why is #1 better than #2 again? Oh, and since you are such a whiz, please tell us what the "pod" part of podium comes from.

/yeah you just got pwned

You're not too bright, are you?

Care to elaborate? Or do you go to a lectiatrist when you have something wrong with your feet?

Okay, I guess I could elaborate, but it's kind of embarassing that you need me to, TBH.

Words mean things. Sometimes words mean things that don't directly relate to the etymology of the word. One of the accepted definitions of podium is synonymous with lectern. Therefore, when you said it's only a podium if you stand on it, you were incorrect. When it was pointed out that you were incorrect, you attempted to prove your case by using two very silly arguments that are simply not true at all:

1. That the first listed definition of a word somehow invalidates the second listed definition of that word
2. That etymology is the only arbiter of what a word can mean

Hope that clarifies things for you.

Every point you tried to make just now was incorrect.


If course they're not incorrect, but it's no surprise at all that you would say so, given your track record so far.
 
2012-10-05 03:23:00 PM

The Numbers: PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?

I'm actually impressed you managed to write something so absurdly pitiful.


I have to wonder, what the hell do people expect as a response to things like this? It's not like there was any argument given, any thought expressed...no, just 'U Bad'. Seriously, is this just a polite way of saying 'I'm an asshole'?
 
2012-10-05 03:27:47 PM

snocone: GameSprocket: Even if Romney did have cards, unless those cards contained a spell to turn Obama into a zombie, it makes no difference in the outcome of the debate.

You mean Romney was playing D&D up there?
No wonder he was so happy.

/would rather see them play WoW or D&D or even cribbage than this crappy "debate" chit


Cards in D&D? Is that some sort of that post-THACO bullcrap that D&D turned into?
 
2012-10-05 03:28:12 PM

PsiChick: The Numbers: PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?

I'm actually impressed you managed to write something so absurdly pitiful.

I have to wonder, what the hell do people expect as a response to things like this? It's not like there was any argument given, any thought expressed...no, just 'U Bad'. Seriously, is this just a polite way of saying 'I'm an asshole'?


Is there a logical reason?

Hmmm.

Let me think.

He wanted to put the handkerchief down for a moment instead of carrying it around?

OR

VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!
 
2012-10-05 03:28:31 PM
I voted for the pie.
 
kab
2012-10-05 03:29:06 PM

badaboom: Did you also report the person who called Mormons a cult in this same thread?


Why would he? You're saying they aren't one?
 
2012-10-05 03:31:21 PM

Marcintosh: The other guy stood there like he found a dick in his pocket that wasn't his.


I am so stealing that.
 
2012-10-05 03:32:57 PM
ENHANCE
ENHANCE
ENHANCE

It's a handkerchief, but there are notes written in Braille sewn into it in white thread. Check this out though, the notes all say "Don't use the N-word" and "'Middle class,' not 'you people.'" I ran it through the GCMS, and there are traces of jet fuel--and not just any jet fuel, but J460-6, which as we all know is only used to fuel private jets in the Cayman Islands. Also, a booger.
 
2012-10-05 03:34:48 PM
I think this is stupid and I'm not convinced he is cheating.

What I don't get is why, if the debates matter at all, so many don't care if someone cheats.

If the debates earn/cost the participants votes, why shouldn't the cheating matter?
 
2012-10-05 03:37:34 PM
Maybe the president of the united states is a farking idiot. Did that occur to you too?
 
2012-10-05 03:38:13 PM

legion_of_doo: Is there a logical reason?

Hmmm.

Let me think.

He wanted to put the handkerchief down for a moment instead of carrying it around?

OR

VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!


It's hardly a vast right-wing conspiracy for a guy with chronic foot-in-mouth syndrome to want a few notes just in case.
 
2012-10-05 03:38:52 PM
Um, the debates are about highlighting policy differences, not "winning". Bringing notes in seems reasonable, maybe if Romney had better notes he wouldn't have lit the pants-on-fire meter into a godzilla-creating atomic inferno in every fact-check organization in the world.

//I'm still fairly convinced Obama's strategy was to play beyond the debate and get Romney to say blatantly untrue shiat that'd get him blasted later. Which actually is what seems to be happening now that the news is done desperately fellating Romney to try to milk advertising dollars out of what is really a very boring election season.
 
2012-10-05 03:41:18 PM

PallMall: sprawl15: I have already reported you for racism.

How is that racist? Why don't you go do a GIS for "speak no evil hear no evil" and see what pops up?


500 years of comparing africans to apes. yeah, that isn't racist at all. :rolleyes:

Login: PallMall
Account created: 2012-09-12 17:22:28
 
2012-10-05 03:42:58 PM

Jim_Callahan: Bringing notes in seems reasonable, maybe if Romney had better notes he wouldn't have lit the pants-on-fire meter into a godzilla-creating atomic inferno in every fact-check organization in the world.


That isn't what politifact said.
 
2012-10-05 03:44:11 PM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: Haven't bothered to read some 500 posts but has anyone pointed out that the source just assumes he cheated without knowing the predetermined debate rules?


First off, why would you "sneak" notes out there (assuming that's what happened) if they were OK to have? It's like sneaking peeks at your book during an open-book test.

The rules for this series of debates haven't been released, but the rules from 2004 clearly state that notes are not to be brought in.
 
2012-10-05 03:47:19 PM

PsiChick: The Numbers: PsiChick: Biness: PsiChick: SideshowRaheem: You know how you feel when conservative sites put forward something so ridiculous that you can't believe people far for it? Yeah, this is the liberal version of that.

Helps to watch the actual vid...I mean, I'm personally in the 'I don't give a shiat, I care about his nonstop lying' camp, but yeah, he took paper out of his pocket. That's not exactly under dispute here.

yes. yes it is under dispute. or rather, that idea has been entirely repudiated. 'twas a handkerchief

Is there any logical reason for Romney to put a handkerchief on the table?

I'm actually impressed you managed to write something so absurdly pitiful.

I have to wonder, what the hell do people expect as a response to things like this? It's not like there was any argument given, any thought expressed...no, just 'U Bad'. Seriously, is this just a polite way of saying 'I'm an asshole'?



No, that was a polite way of saying you're farking retarded. Look what you just wrote. You are asking for a logical reason for Romney putting a handkerchief on a table. You want an honest discussion and debate about the merits of placing a handkerchief on a table. A farking handkerchief on a farking table. This is what you want to discuss.

You sound concerned.
 
2012-10-05 03:48:21 PM
I did a rubbing of the notepad Romney was using:

imageshack.us
 
2012-10-05 03:49:19 PM
You know what bugs me?

What really bugs me?

This wasn't in the Drinking Game!
 
2012-10-05 03:50:45 PM
I guess 1:24.30 he is wiping his head with his notes? i dont think so.
 
2012-10-05 03:50:47 PM

Beanlet: Podmore: I don't care for Romney, and I generally feel that Republican politicians are more likely to lie, cheat, distort facts, and manipulate voters than Democratic ones. So I especially hate it when liberals jump on something like this and declare it true without the facts. It's fine that the question was raised; if he did cheat, that would be a character issue if nothing else, but credible analysts were saying handkerchief, and he used it later in the debate. To keep saying it was notes is to be like the climate change deniers, who ignore the credible evidence and hang on the lunatic fringe.

It just makes us look bad.

Oo look, my husband called me a credible analyst! Three minutes apart, said basically the same thing. This is why we're so good together. =)


And in case people don't realize it, she's at home and I'm at work, and haven't really talked today.

Please dems, leave this silly sort of wishful thinking and ignoring of the evidence to the republicans.
 
2012-10-05 03:53:58 PM

lennavan: No, that was a polite way of saying you're farking retarded. Look what you just wrote. You are asking for a logical reason for Romney putting a handkerchief on a table. You want an honest discussion and debate about the merits of placing a handkerchief on a table. A farking handkerchief on a farking table. This is what you want to discuss.

You sound concerned.


I honestly could not care less if Romney was cheating or not, but ffs, I'm hardly going to claim something that stiff is a handkerchief when the guy actually would need notes. That's like saying 'Oh, yeah, that person is legally blind, but I'm sure she's just carrying that red-and-white cane for the looks of it'.

Seriously, this is not hard.
 
2012-10-05 03:55:35 PM
Upon further review..

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/05/upon-further-review-mitt-ro m ney-may-have-cheated-to-win-the-debate/
 
2012-10-05 03:58:09 PM
Favoriting this thread. It's derptastic.
 
2012-10-05 03:58:18 PM
i'm surprised at how many of you are thinking about this so linearly. why couldn't he have thrown both his notes AND a handkerchief on the table? then he's got his notes to read and a handkerchief to cover them up/use to make it seem normal. or he could've just written the notes onto the handkerchief itself. it's like you guys have never cheated in school before.
 
2012-10-05 04:00:14 PM

PsiChick: I'm hardly going to claim something that stiff is a handkerchief when the guy actually would need notes.


You totally imagine he might need notes, therefore that is conclusive evidence it's not a handkerchief? Holy fark you're stupid.

i.imgur.com

Look, he wiped his face with his note card. I'm sure you have an explanation for that.

PsiChick: Seriously, this is not hard.


Apparently it is for you.
 
2012-10-05 04:00:59 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BELIEVE THIS

Instead of your God bled, and you can't deal.
 
2012-10-05 04:02:58 PM

bdub77: Johnny Swank: I think Romney is a cockbag, but this is a stupid, stupid conspiracy theory. There's 235,239 more things to pound the cult leader with.

This.

I'm sorry, I very highly doubt he cheated. He came prepared. I mean he was full of sh*t, but he came prepared. Obama's lack of emotional delivery and lack of attacks on easy targets was the phenomenon that defined the debate. No one perhaps outside of Obama really knows why, but I think the reason people are shocked is because this is really not the Obama we have seen.

I saw the debates in 2008. Obama was not this passive. He wasn't incredibly aggressive, but he didn't act like a chump on stage. Many people, mostly conservatives, think his passivity was from too much teleprompter, but that is BS, the GOP wants to paint Obama as a weak president, and the teleprompter lies play into it.

I think something else was up. I don't know if it was campaign strategy, off night, personal problems, international problems, what, but he was either distracted or doing it on purpose. He still came off fine to me, a person with a plan and ideas who shared them if boringly. But he didn't blow me away - neither did he do it at the convention. There are clues, like his memoir, that Obama is an introspective person. He might just be a little tired right now. The job runs you down. And there's such hate out there for Obama, mindboggling hate. The economy has been improving steadily month after month. Unemployment is down under 8% now. And yet people are still mad at him, like it's his fault for taking out a bad mortgage or financial chicanery or offshoring jobs.

This country is full of cowards, small people living unimportant lives of quiet desperation who want to blame everyone for their situation except themselves.

I'm kind of tired of theorizing about it. Doesn't affect my vote in the least. I know whose ideas are bankrupt both logically and morally.


>>>>>the teleprompter lies

Citation needed

>>>>>The economy has been improving steadily month after month.

Really? Not here in Southern California. Well, let me amend that. There are a lot of people running around with new cars. New luxury homes are being built and bought. Some businesses are booming. But there is a huge, forgotten underclass of about 15% that have been simply discarded.

Recovery? Your mileage may vary.
 
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