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(Christian Science Monitor)   Meet one of the undecided voters, still so after Wednesday's debate, who will decide the election   (csmonitor.com ) divider line
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2012-10-05 09:23:33 AM  
5 votes:
If the debates sway your vote, you're not a very informed voter. All of their positions are already out there (or lack there of in Romney's case). Just freakin' read!

Obama has been President of the United States for nearly 4 years. Romney has been campaigning for president for 6 years. All the information to make a choice about them has been written everywhere and broadcast all over the place for years now. Get your head out of your ass for 10 minutes and pay attention to the world around you. If you haven't made up your minds about them 5 weeks before the election, I'm sorry, but you are very much a "low information voter". Be proud.
2012-10-05 12:07:12 PM  
3 votes:
Next debate, Big O, after another string of Romneywords:

"Dammit Mitt, do you even care about this country, or are you going to continue to lie and change your mind until you fool enough people to get elected? Is that all it's about for you, the election? Have you no love for these people, no central goodness in you, no core? Is it really that easy for you to say the impossible is possible, that math lies, that you'll do everything they want and nothing they don't, anything for that one prize, the election?

Look, unlike you, I actually care about America. Which means I want real solutions, not fairy dust. That means I have to talk about tough decisions, and sacrifices, and how things don't always go the way we plan, but how we have to continue to try and make more tough decisions and really try to get things better. If there are people out there who don't want to hear that, if there are people out there who are swayed by this BS of yours, where nothing needs to be done and it solves everything, where taxes won't change but the economy will get better and jobs grow on trees, then fine. Let them vote for you. I can't sit here and pretend like you are a rational alternative. I can't pretend to debate when the very foundation of debate, logic and consequences, is abandoned. I'm not here for story time. American policy is not fiction."

Drops the microphone.
Walks out.

/wishes they held the mike
2012-10-05 11:38:58 AM  
2 votes:
David Sedaris on undecided voters in 2008:

Then you'll see this man or woman- someone, I always think, who looks very happy to be on TV. "Well, Charlie," they say, "I've gone back and forth on the issues and whatnot, but I just can't seem to make up my mind!" Some insist that there's very little difference between candidate A and candidate B. Others claim that they're with A on defense and health care but are leaning toward B when it comes to the economy.

I look at these people and can't quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder.

Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention?

To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. "Can I interest you in the chicken?" she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shiat with bits of broken glass in it?"

To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.

I mean, really, what's to be confused about?
2012-10-05 10:46:27 AM  
2 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: IF I vote, it will be for Obama. Not even Romney knows his own platform. After watching the debates, sure, he came off strong and presidential, but he backtracked on everything. He was pandering to the rich for the last few years to get their money, now that he has the funds to run the campaign, he's telling the middle class what they want to hear.


He's going to have to keep with that strong performance over the next two debates, or he's toast. The way people are lamenting or celebrating, they seem to forget there are two more. But you're right. When pressed on anything specific about his plan, Romney couldn't answer a damn thing. Only that he's going to cut deductions, but there aren't enough for the wealthy to prevent the middle class from paying more.

WorldCitizen: She sounds like from her family she has had a lot of Party Line indoctrination in her past. Sounds like all her logic tells her to vote for Obama, but that childhood programming to vote for The Party is making her brain mushy.


Exactly. I could see it if she mentioned a few of Romney's proposals that she supported, because then she would be trying to weigh those versus Obama's. But she, by her own admission, says very little about Romney appeals to her.

It's like looking at two restaurant menus. One has a lot of things you like, one has nothing you like, and then saying you're not sure which restaurant you want to go to.
2012-10-05 09:37:21 AM  
2 votes:

Aarontology: So she agrees with Obama on more things, (things she feels quite strongly about) and says Romney hasn't given her a reason to vote for her, but she's still "undecided"


She sounds like from her family she has had a lot of Party Line indoctrination in her past. Sounds like all her logic tells her to vote for Obama, but that childhood programming to vote for The Party is making her brain mushy.
2012-10-05 09:47:53 PM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: I'd agree, if only I thought these people were actually thinking about the issues. The truth is, though...


Sigh, I know you're right in the case of most of these people. I just try and hold out SOME hope for humanity, I can't be constantly pessimistic about us as a society, but it's hard. Too many people are members of the Cult of Personality, and can't cite a single item about their candidate(or issue) of choice that doesn't revolve around looks, false information or something emotional like religion...

I've said it before on here; Our ideal election system would be if we voted for a silhouette, eliminating race, gender, religion, looks, used car salesman tactics, etc. from the election proces, and made it truly about the issues. Develop some kind of mathematical way to express a candidate's views on the issues, as well as their previous record, withut giving any of the other data away. I know it would never be able to be implemented, but it would be the perfect way to fix our system. If we got rid of lobbying, we might actually have something that worked...
2012-10-05 01:21:14 PM  
1 vote:

Smelly McUgly: God Is My Co-Pirate: HST's Dead Carcass: Aarontology: So she agrees with Obama on more things, (things she feels quite strongly about) and says Romney hasn't given her a reason to vote for her, but she's still "undecided"

IF I vote, it will be for Obama.

IF? People around the world are still fighting and dying for their right to vote. Get off your ass and spoil your damn ballot if you have to, but get to the polls or forever forfeit your right to complain about a political decision you don't like.

Does he pay taxes? Then yeah, he has the right to biatch no matter what.


Sorry. If you don't vote, you're a terrible excuse for an American. Like. Farking abominable. I don't complain when people don't get active. I don't get upset when people don't seek out good information or do their own research.

If someone tells me they "just aren't gonna vote" this year, I ask if their legs work. Then I ask if their eyes work. Then I ask if they can get a couple hours off work that day. Then I ask if they have something more important to do than participate in the system that hundreds of thousand of Americans have died to guarantee their ungrateful ass. You can't even be bothered to punch a farking hole in a piece of paper. Lazy ass motherfarkers. I don't care if you vote for the rotted corpse of Benedict Arnold.

Failure to vote is failure to respect America. That simple.
2012-10-05 11:51:32 AM  
1 vote:

beta_plus: salvador.hardin: The undecideds aren't going to decide this election subby. This one is about mobilization and enthusiasm.

Agreed. Whoever wins the ground war in the swing states wins the election. The only thing the debates will help is making a side's already decided more enthusiastic to vote.

/Watch Street Fight if you want to see how dirty that part of an election can be


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You actually said something that I think most of us here can agree with, without sounding like a total partisan dick. Hat's off to you.
2012-10-05 11:42:11 AM  
1 vote:

FloydA: HST's Dead Carcass: Aarontology: So she agrees with Obama on more things, (things she feels quite strongly about) and says Romney hasn't given her a reason to vote for her, but she's still "undecided"

IF I vote, it will be for Obama.

If you live in a swing state, not voting at all has the same effect as voting for the candidate you like the least.


Yep. Exactly. Don't vote in a swing state? Well, really you did. You just voted for the person with whom you agree the least.
2012-10-05 11:39:03 AM  
1 vote:

HST's Dead Carcass: Aarontology: So she agrees with Obama on more things, (things she feels quite strongly about) and says Romney hasn't given her a reason to vote for her, but she's still "undecided"

IF I vote, it will be for Obama.


If you live in a swing state, not voting at all has the same effect as voting for the candidate you like the least.
2012-10-05 11:32:18 AM  
1 vote:

HST's Dead Carcass: Aarontology: So she agrees with Obama on more things, (things she feels quite strongly about) and says Romney hasn't given her a reason to vote for her, but she's still "undecided"

IF I vote, it will be for Obama.


IF? People around the world are still fighting and dying for their right to vote. Get off your ass and spoil your damn ballot if you have to, but get to the polls or forever forfeit your right to complain about a political decision you don't like.
2012-10-05 09:38:20 AM  
1 vote:
I'm pretty sure anyone who claims to be an undecided voter by this point is a loser just wanting attention. I really can't think of another explanation.
2012-10-05 09:26:58 AM  
1 vote:
So she agrees with Obama on more things, (things she feels quite strongly about) and says Romney hasn't given her a reason to vote for her, but she's still "undecided"
 
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