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(The Onion)   "Romney Dominated Debate, Say Pundits Trying To Figure Out GOP Candidate's Policies". So when did The Onion start doing serious political analysis? Because I don't really see a joke here   (theonion.com) divider line 46
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2012-10-05 08:57:27 AM
When you prepare to debate one candidate and another shows up, it will put you off your game. But I guess Obama should have expected this.
 
2012-10-05 09:01:50 AM
The Poe effect must have comedians and satirists doing a lot of soul searching lately. "If I just play his tape verbatim, or try to impersonate him while just reading the actual transcript, am I really doing anything creative here? Sure, it's an easy day at the office, but how satisfying is it really?"

Or maybe guys like Jon Stewart find it more challenging because they won't do it unless they can add creative value to the process. He has some great stuff, but I've also noticed an increase in the "play the tape and then sigh or make some funny face while the audience laughs" schtick.
 
2012-10-05 09:16:36 AM
Not sure why the Amusing tag would apply in this case. Or the Satire one,for that matter.
 
2012-10-05 09:23:01 AM
I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.
 
2012-10-05 09:55:32 AM

Outtaphase: The Poe effect must have comedians and satirists doing a lot of soul searching lately. "If I just play his tape verbatim, or try to impersonate him while just reading the actual transcript, am I really doing anything creative here? Sure, it's an easy day at the office, but how satisfying is it really?"

Or maybe guys like Jon Stewart find it more challenging because they won't do it unless they can add creative value to the process. He has some great stuff, but I've also noticed an increase in the "play the tape and then sigh or make some funny face while the audience laughs" schtick.


I suspect we will see a "Romney debates Romney" really soon, with Stewart casting himself as the moderator. You know what I'm talking about... tape of Romney from the debate and tape of Romney angrily rebuking the positions Romney took in the debate strung together back to back.
 
2012-10-05 09:57:08 AM

hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.


its a little daily show, but... yep a very funny idea.
 
2012-10-05 10:19:43 AM

hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.


It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.
 
2012-10-05 10:25:02 AM

EyeballKid: hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.

It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.


And here I thought the debate wouldn't have zingers after all.
 
2012-10-05 10:25:04 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-implores-obama-to-rub-one-out-b efore-debate,29785/
 
2012-10-05 10:28:31 AM

Codenamechaz: EyeballKid: hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.

It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.

And here I thought the debate wouldn't have zingers after all.


Hillbilly wins this round. Thanks for coming, and don't forget to tip your waitress on the table.
 
2012-10-05 10:31:05 AM
The Onion has been really good this election. I don't remember them being this on point last time. It may be they've gotten better or it may be there's just a lot more ridiculous shiat this time around.
 
2012-10-05 10:32:02 AM

EyeballKid: It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.


BAM
 
2012-10-05 10:35:15 AM

odinsposse: The Onion has been really good this election. I don't remember them being this on point last time. It may be they've gotten better or it may be there's just a lot more ridiculous shiat this time around.


Nothing was more ridiculous than the 2008 campaign.
 
2012-10-05 10:37:07 AM

EyeballKid: hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.

It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.


Zing!
 
2012-10-05 10:38:00 AM
Nail on the head. To stay on that analogy, Obama needs to repeatedly and mercilessly hammer Romney on his failure to articulate a plan. Romney even implicitly ADMITTED that he merely had objectives, with no concrete plans to address them, during the debate...and Obama just smiled. Obama could have finished him right there.
 
2012-10-05 10:39:14 AM

EyeballKid: hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.

It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.

 
2012-10-05 10:40:09 AM
Not a peep from teabag nation about this?

How the hell can their hardliners possibly be excited about that performance?
 
2012-10-05 10:41:29 AM
Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe.

Sorry Romney didbt fit unto Obamas misinterpretation of him. Maybe you should step out of your echo chambers once in a while.
 
2012-10-05 10:41:29 AM
 
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2012-10-05 10:43:40 AM
The Onion hasn't changed. Reality has.
This is Poe's law in action.

Seriously, Mitt Romney literally went after Big Bird, and threatened to fire the moderator.
How do you make a joke about that?
 
2012-10-05 10:43:56 AM

EyeballKid: hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.

It would be an even bigger joke if CNN tried it.


/internet
 
2012-10-05 10:44:41 AM

MyRandomName: Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe


We do, however, have a clue as to what Mitt Romney has actually said in the past as far as his policies (or at least what little details he's been willing to give). Repeatedly. Because it's on tape. And written down by his campaign and people. Stupid facts and their well-known liberal bias, right?
 
2012-10-05 10:45:02 AM

MyRandomName: Sorry Romney didbt fit unto Obamas misinterpretation of him.


He also didn't fit into his own previous interpretation of himself. Or objective reality, for that matter.
 
2012-10-05 10:45:15 AM
Political satirists shouldn't write when they are feeling pouty.
 
2012-10-05 10:46:04 AM

unlikely: Outtaphase: I suspect we will see a "Romney debates Romney" really soon, with Stewart casting himself as the moderator. You know what I'm talking about... tape of Romney from the debate and tape of Romney angrily rebuking the positions Romney took in the debate strung together back to back.


colbert did that during the republican primaries.
 
2012-10-05 10:48:21 AM
And The Onion nailed it. Obama's performance was lackluster for sure, but the way the media has focused solely on appearances and style, and completely ignored substance is ... well, predictable, but still disappointed. It's like the media has decided that the existence of "fact checkers" means they no longer have to do their jobs.
 
2012-10-05 10:51:19 AM

MyRandomName: Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe.

Sorry Romney didbt fit unto Obamas misinterpretation of him. Maybe you should step out of your echo chambers once in a while.


Huh? It's not about what liberals/non-liberals believe. It's about what Romney and Ryan have explicitly stated and the fact that Romney is now trying to change his platform for a broader audience.

Words have meaning and consequence.
 
2012-10-05 10:51:28 AM
The Reince Priebus story is one of the funniest things I've read on The Onion.
 
2012-10-05 10:51:42 AM

GQueue: MyRandomName: Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe

We do, however, have a clue as to what Mitt Romney has actually said in the past as far as his policies (or at least what little details he's been willing to give). Repeatedly. Because it's on tape. And written down by his campaign and people. Stupid facts and their well-known liberal bias, right?


I think MRN hit the nail on the head: Rightists don't believe in anything except what their leaders tell them and what has that little R seal of approval next to it. The center and left make the mistake of assuming they have an ideological basis other than "Go team" and "me me me, mine mine mine". Quantum Romney is the perfect representation of this; his only consistent policy position has been that what's ours should be his.
 
2012-10-05 10:52:19 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Political satirists shouldn't write when they are feeling pouty.


You apparently don't understand the purpose of satire.
 
2012-10-05 11:02:07 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Noam Chimpsky: Political satirists shouldn't write when they are feeling pouty.

You apparently don't understand the purpose of satire.


Sociopaths frequently have trouble with humour and satire.
 
2012-10-05 11:06:34 AM

ghare: Sociopaths frequently have trouble with humour and satire.


artsandculturentx.com
"Look, cha, I don't mean to go on and on about a point here, but I just cater to the people who own me faster than Steppin Fetchit and Rochester in an egg and spoon race, 'kay?"
 
2012-10-05 11:12:38 AM

MyRandomName: Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe.


To be fair, it is excruciatingly hard to accurately assess the thought patterns of a crazy person.
 
2012-10-05 11:20:29 AM

Ishkur: MyRandomName: Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe.

To be fair, it is excruciatingly hard to accurately assess the thought patterns of a crazy person.


There's no Haidt like liberal Haidt?
 
2012-10-05 11:25:10 AM

not5am: unlikely: Outtaphase: I suspect we will see a "Romney debates Romney" really soon, with Stewart casting himself as the moderator. You know what I'm talking about... tape of Romney from the debate and tape of Romney angrily rebuking the positions Romney took in the debate strung together back to back.

colbert did that during the republican primaries.


Then they can dial it up to eleven, do a three way debate. The material is too good to ignore it.
 
2012-10-05 11:27:35 AM

ghare: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Noam Chimpsky: Political satirists shouldn't write when they are feeling pouty.

You apparently don't understand the purpose of satire.

Sociopaths frequently have trouble with humour and satire.


The thing is that if you can detect the quivering lip and sniffly nose of the author while reading his satire, the satire will just come off as whiney.
 
2012-10-05 11:28:12 AM

MyRandomName: Fark liberals continue to prove Haidt right in that they have no farking clue as to what non liberals believe.

Sorry Romney didbt fit unto Obamas misinterpretation of him. Maybe you should step out of your echo chambers once in a while.


No, we had it right, Romney just showed up and ran an entirely new platform, unlike what he had been using, as part of a massive flip flop of what he stood for.

It's now clear the man actually has no principles, and will say anything to get elected. Romney is the ultimate windsock.
 
2012-10-05 11:43:34 AM

cram_hole: The Reince Priebus story is one of the funniest things I've read on The Onion.


Yeah, that's in the top five for the year.
 
2012-10-05 11:48:36 AM
If you read nothing but satirical "newspapers" and watched nothing but satirical "news programs," you would be better informed than 90% of the populace.
 
2012-10-05 11:57:23 AM

hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.


I just realized that that trolliest thing the Onion could do would be to do straight-faced reporting of FWD:FWD:FWD rumors. Then every time they come up people would say "You dummy. That story about Obama's Communist connections is from the Onion."
 
2012-10-05 12:35:00 PM

unlikely: Then they can dial it up to eleven, do a three way debate. The material is too good to ignore it.


hah, daily show and/or colbert does those kind of segments once a week. it's usually about a new statement someone makes and they show a clip of them saying the opposite shortly after.
 
2012-10-05 12:54:00 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nail on the head. To stay on that analogy, Obama needs to repeatedly and mercilessly hammer Romney on his failure to articulate a plan. Romney even implicitly ADMITTED that he merely had objectives, with no concrete plans to address them, during the debate...and Obama just smiled. Obama could have finished him right there.


Don't be that guy - you know the one with the "plan" that constantly tells everyone in the room how smart he is. I'd rather you said "this is what I want" go figure it out.

Lots of ways to skin a cat and the most efficient way is never in a gov. manual.
 
2012-10-05 02:01:51 PM

hillbillypharmacist: I would think it the best joke ever for The Onion to start doing serious reporting.


wait. the onion is satirical?
 
2012-10-05 04:59:02 PM

youmightberight: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nail on the head. To stay on that analogy, Obama needs to repeatedly and mercilessly hammer Romney on his failure to articulate a plan. Romney even implicitly ADMITTED that he merely had objectives, with no concrete plans to address them, during the debate...and Obama just smiled. Obama could have finished him right there.

Don't be that guy - you know the one with the "plan" that constantly tells everyone in the room how smart he is. I'd rather you said "this is what I want" go figure it out.

Lots of ways to skin a cat and the most efficient way is never in a gov. manual.


Right, because we shouldn't expect a presidential candidate to have any detailed plans. Only wishful thinking and vagueries.

*sigh*
 
2012-10-06 12:33:11 AM

youmightberight: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Nail on the head. To stay on that analogy, Obama needs to repeatedly and mercilessly hammer Romney on his failure to articulate a plan. Romney even implicitly ADMITTED that he merely had objectives, with no concrete plans to address them, during the debate...and Obama just smiled. Obama could have finished him right there.

Don't be that guy - you know the one with the "plan" that constantly tells everyone in the room how smart he is. I'd rather you said "this is what I want" go figure it out.

Lots of ways to skin a cat and the most efficient way is never in a gov. manual.


Actually, I think the problem with the government (or government in general, anywhere, at any time) is the lack of a plan. There is no long term goal for the United States. Nothing to work toward, or hope for. Just "keep people employed at this moment". I know that could be made into a quip about election cycles, but what the hell? People still live in communities and live their lives. Who is leading anyone into a national, mass movement toward (positive) change or building?

Hell, even if it was a silly long term plan, at least people would have something to be against! As it stands, no one really seems to be for or against anything. Just "jobs are good, debt is bad, war might be okay in some circumstances".

tl;dr I hate it when libertarians talk about the role of government like they have anything to add.
 
2012-10-06 01:55:20 AM
 
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