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(Yahoo)   Cardinals @ Braves. Kyle Lohse vs Kris Medlen. Can the Cardinals snap the Braves 23 consecutive Medlen starts winning streak? First pitch 5:07pm EST   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 744
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2012-10-05 09:33:20 AM  
ballparkbiz.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-05 09:34:54 AM  
October baseball is best baseball.

/And November
 
2012-10-05 09:37:22 AM  
So what's Albert Pujols doing today?
 
2012-10-05 09:39:20 AM  

mjohnson71: So what's Albert Pujols doing today?


Counting his money, staring at his two world series rings.
 
2012-10-05 09:39:55 AM  

Gunny Highway: mjohnson71: So what's Albert Pujols doing today?

Counting his money, staring at his two world series rings.


Enjoying the sunshine.
 
2012-10-05 09:40:03 AM  

mjohnson71: So what's Albert Pujols doing today?


That's the topic of office discussion this AM.

That Medlen stat is the one that my baseball buddies have been discussing since Wed. evening.
 
2012-10-05 09:43:21 AM  
I don't think EST starts for another month, subby.
 
2012-10-05 09:45:07 AM  
Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.
 
2012-10-05 09:47:57 AM  

bubbaprog: I don't think EST starts for another month, subby.


Thanks Rory.
 
2012-10-05 09:50:07 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.


Cubs fan?

I dare you to find more than 5 people in St. Louis who think 12 in '12 is possible. I'm just glad the Cardinals ended up over .500 with a rookie manager, no Pujols and a ton of injuries.
 
2012-10-05 09:51:18 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.


Indeed, there are worse fans in baseball.

What do you hate about Cards fans, specifically? The fact that we're rabidly passionate about a historic, respected, winning franchise in a "small market"? The fact that players, managers, and coaches around the league consistently regard Cards fans as some of the most dedicated, educated (about the game), classy fans out there?

Or is it just the fact that a flyover city in a flyover state has a good team? If you wanna hate on fans, hate on Yankees fans, as least that's fashionable.
 
2012-10-05 09:53:26 AM  
Hey subby, can we discuss Orioles/Rangers in there too? Or will there be a separate thread for that one? Or does that game not really matter?
 
2012-10-05 09:55:47 AM  

mjohnson71: I dare you to find more than 5 people in St. Louis who think 12 in '12 is possible. I'm just glad the Cardinals ended up over .500 with a rookie manager, no Pujols and a ton of injuries.


After last season, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks it's impossible; the difference is believing whether it'll happen or not.
 
2012-10-05 09:55:59 AM  

idesofmarch: Hey subby, can we discuss Orioles/Rangers in there too? Or will there be a separate thread for that one? Or does that game not really matter?


In order:

Sure, why not?
Probably.
Not really, no.

/not subby
 
2012-10-05 09:56:41 AM  

grinding_journalist: What do you hate about Cards fans, specifically?


I've only met Cards fans while on vacation since I'm in new england. They gave me a ridiculously hard time for not drinking whatever shiatty beer is brewed there. The ones I saw at a mets game were decked out in fan gear but sat at a bar the whole time, and never went out to watch the game. That was a no-hitter for the mets, so ha.
 
2012-10-05 09:56:44 AM  

grinding_journalist: Or is it just the fact that a flyover city in a flyover state has a good team? If you wanna hate on fans, hate on Yankees fans, as least that's fashionable.go cry about it somewhere else.

 
2012-10-05 09:57:38 AM  

grinding_journalist: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.

Indeed, there are worse fans in baseball.

What do you hate about Cards fans, specifically? The fact that we're rabidly passionate about a historic, respected, winning franchise in a "small market"? The fact that players, managers, and coaches around the league consistently regard Cards fans as some of the most dedicated, educated (about the game), classy fans out there?

Or is it just the fact that a flyover city in a flyover state has a good team? If you wanna hate on fans, hate on Yankees fans, as least that's fashionable.


I think the guy's just fussy 'cause his meth lab blew up this morning.

I'm from Stl, graduated from Mizzou. And the Braves have an "insert insensitive Native-American joke here" coming to them today.
 
2012-10-05 10:00:15 AM  

grinding_journalist: What do you hate about Cards fans, specifically? The fact that we're rabidly passionate about a historic, respected, winning franchise in a "small market"? The fact that players, managers, and coaches around the league consistently regard Cards fans as some of the most dedicated, educated (about the game), classy fans out there?

Or is it just the fact that a flyover city in a flyover state has a good team? If you wanna hate on fans, hate on Yankees fans, as least that's fashionable.



Surely, it can't be over their manager's decades-long lenient stance toward steroids, HGH, and the like. Oh, I know that was an isolated incident....and so was that other one....and that third one, sure, but they were ALL isolated! It's weird how people don't like cheaters, isn't it?
 
2012-10-05 10:01:41 AM  
I am just glad the Braves are wasting Medlen today rather than saving him for the Nationals.
 
2012-10-05 10:12:40 AM  
Go Braves, Go O's
 
2012-10-05 10:12:55 AM  

EyeballKid: Surely, it can't be over their manager's decades-long lenient stance toward steroids, HGH, and the like.


You mean the guy that's been running the team for a year? How long are decades in your universe?

While it's difficult to defend PEDs in baseball, I don't think you can deny that the race between McG and Bonds helped save baseball.

To which other incidents do you refer?
 
2012-10-05 10:13:57 AM  

grinding_journalist: While it's difficult to defend PEDs in baseball, I don't think you can deny that the race between McG and Bonds helped save baseball.


........really?
 
2012-10-05 10:17:09 AM  

CipollinaFan: I am just glad the Braves are wasting Medlen today rather than saving him for the Nationals.


Hudson in game 1. Minor in game 2. Medlen in game 3.

Hudson is the worst pitcher in that stretch.
 
2012-10-05 10:17:42 AM  

grinding_journalist: To which other incidents do you refer?


Canseco in Oakland
McGwire in Oakland AND in St. Louis
If you think those are the only 2, I got an arch to sell you.
 
2012-10-05 10:23:09 AM  

grinding_journalist: you can deny that the race between McG and Bonds helped save baseball.


Bonds as in Sosa? It's ok cause they all look the same?
 
2012-10-05 10:24:17 AM  

EyeballKid: grinding_journalist: To which other incidents do you refer?

Canseco in Oakland
McGwire in Oakland AND in St. Louis
If you think those are the only 2, I got an arch to sell you.


And if you think the Cards are the only team guilty of doing this...well, we don't have much else to talk about. Oh wait, you can't possibly because you just mentioned Oakland...so why are you singling out STL?

Gunny Highway: grinding_journalist: While it's difficult to defend PEDs in baseball, I don't think you can deny that the race between McG and Bonds helped save baseball.

........really?


You don't think so? It's my "global warming" of baseball- we know it affected it in SOME way, we just can't say how or how much. It certainly didn't do BB any harm at the time; they had to wait after the money had been made.
 
2012-10-05 10:25:18 AM  

grinding_journalist: And if you think the Cards are the only team guilty of doing this...well, we don't have much else to talk about. Oh wait, you can't possibly because you just mentioned Oakland...so why are you singling out STL?


Nothing more compelling than the "everybody does it" defense.
 
2012-10-05 10:28:24 AM  

mjohnson71: So what's Albert Pujols doing today?


Same thing the Cards will start doing tomorrow.
 
2012-10-05 10:30:49 AM  

bulldg4life: CipollinaFan: I am just glad the Braves are wasting Medlen today rather than saving him for the Nationals.

Hudson in game 1. Minor in game 2. Medlen in game 3.

Hudson is the worst pitcher in that stretch.


But it still eliminates the possibility of them using him twice. Gio, Jordan, Ross and Edwin are better then the rest of the Braves pitching staff and the Nats should be able to win the 3 games needed. I am also very glad they don't have to go up against Beachy either. The Braves are going to be scary good next year.
 
2012-10-05 10:31:15 AM  
Cutting out of work early to get to my nosebleed seats at the Ted. Can't freaking wait.
 
2012-10-05 10:32:40 AM  

bulldg4life: Hudson in game 1. Minor in game 2. Medlen in game 3.

Hudson is the worst pitcher in that stretch.


Barely, I guess.

But delaying having to face Medlen is at least some bonus to getting the top seed. Although I think the Nats came pretty close to getting a win last time they faced him. The Nats' game 3 starter will be an interesting decision.
 
2012-10-05 10:34:14 AM  

bulldg4life: Bonds as in Sosa? It's ok cause they all look the same?


Derp. Yes, Sosa. No coffee, busy morning, drugs haven't kicked in yet, etc.
 
2012-10-05 10:35:19 AM  

grinding_journalist: And if you think the Cards are the only team guilty of doing this...well, we don't have much else to talk about. Oh wait, you can't possibly because you just mentioned Oakland...so why are you singling out STL?


He mentioned the manager. There is a common thread between the 80's/90's A's and the 90's/00's Cards

grinding_journalist: You don't think so? It's my "global warming" of baseball- we know it affected it in SOME way, we just can't say how or how much. It certainly didn't do BB any harm at the time; they had to wait after the money had been made.


Sosa and McGuire. Sosa was a Cub you should at least remember his name.
 
2012-10-05 10:37:22 AM  

CipollinaFan: But it still eliminates the possibility of them using him twice.


lunchinlewis: But delaying having to face Medlen is at least some bonus to getting the top seed


If the Braves win tonight, I feel pretty good about Hudson/Minor at home and Medlen on the road. Medlen/Hudson at home seems a bit better, but I'm not sure about Minor on the road in game 3. That first playoff game at home for the Nats is going to suck for whatever team is playing them. Nation's capital, national TV, a flyover, appearance by VP or Prez? Pass....

CipollinaFan: Gio, Jordan, Ross and Edwin are better then the rest of the Braves pitching staff


You're not using the entire staff in a 5 game series...

Hudson/Gio
Minor/Jordan
Medlen/Ross

That's, at least, a split with both teams feeling they have a good shot. As for the rest of the pitching staff....Kimbrel, Venters, O'Flaherty. Six innings from the starter and it's over.
 
2012-10-05 10:43:11 AM  

CipollinaFan: I am just glad the Braves are wasting Medlen today rather than saving him for the Nationals.


That's the penalty for being the wild card. You have to burn your best pitcher. Particularly penalizing for the Braves given how lights out Medlen has been.
 
2012-10-05 10:44:40 AM  

Gunny Highway: Sosa and McGuire. Sosa was a Cub you should at least remember his name.


Indeed; already got called out for it.

Gunny Highway: He mentioned the manager. There is a common thread between the 80's/90's A's and the 90's/00's Cards


So hating the fans because of what a manager did a decade ago is cause enough? Only in sports, man.
 
2012-10-05 10:45:25 AM  

bulldg4life: If the Braves win tonight, I feel pretty good about Hudson/Minor at home and Medlen on the road. Medlen/Hudson at home seems a bit better, but I'm not sure about Minor on the road in game 3. That first playoff game at home for the Nats is going to suck for whatever team is playing them. Nation's capital, national TV, a flyover, appearance by VP or Prez? Pass....


The only thing I have heard announced for sure is that Frank Robinson will throw out the first pitch.

Minor has impressed me this year. I saw a number of his games when he was at Vandy and he's definitely becoming a big league pitcher, as forecast. But it's the big show now. Another step in his career so it should be interesting to see how he shows.
 
2012-10-05 10:45:38 AM  

Gunny Highway: grinding_journalist: While it's difficult to defend PEDs in baseball, I don't think you can deny that the race between McG and Bonds helped save baseball.

........really?


For me, personally, I had been bitter and almost apathetic following the strike-shortened season. The HR race lit me up. This, obviously, is a personal anecdote and does not reflect the nation as a whole or the sport itself....
 
2012-10-05 10:46:31 AM  

lunchinlewis: The only thing I have heard announced for sure is that Frank Robinson will throw out the first pitch.


Whatever happens...you know the stadium is going to be rocking and rolling. They've been waiting a while.
 
2012-10-05 10:47:38 AM  

grinding_journalist: So hating the fans because of what a manager did a decade ago is cause enough? Only in sports, man.


I dont hate the Cards fans. People dislike La Russa and claim he turned a blind eye to PED use. That is a reason to dislike a team. Especially when the fans are just so gosh darn nice all the time.
 
2012-10-05 10:49:22 AM  
Medlen, Venters and Kimbrel have Nats fans very very concerned.

Nats have to win at least one in Atlanta. Imagine if the Nats lose both games in Atlanta and then have to face Medlen in an elimination game 3.
 
2012-10-05 10:53:14 AM  

idesofmarch: Hey subby, can we discuss Orioles/Rangers in there too? Or will there be a separate thread for that one? Or does that game not really matter?


the game is three hours later. you guys get your own thread.
 
2012-10-05 10:53:29 AM  

bulldg4life: CipollinaFan: But it still eliminates the possibility of them using him twice.

lunchinlewis: But delaying having to face Medlen is at least some bonus to getting the top seed

If the Braves win tonight, I feel pretty good about Hudson/Minor at home and Medlen on the road. Medlen/Hudson at home seems a bit better, but I'm not sure about Minor on the road in game 3. That first playoff game at home for the Nats is going to suck for whatever team is playing them. Nation's capital, national TV, a flyover, appearance by VP or Prez? Pass....

CipollinaFan: Gio, Jordan, Ross and Edwin are better then the rest of the Braves pitching staff

You're not using the entire staff in a 5 game series...

Hudson/Gio
Minor/Jordan
Medlen/Ross

That's, at least, a split with both teams feeling they have a good shot. As for the rest of the pitching staff....Kimbrel, Venters, O'Flaherty. Six innings from the starter and it's over.


I agree with everything you said. I think the one-and-done format is a steaming pile of crap, maybe the worst thing that Bud Selig has come up with since deciding the All Star game had to "mean something." But, I like the Braves' chances against the Nationals. That sweep a few weeks ago should have dismissed any notion that the Braves can't handle the Nats.
 
2012-10-05 10:55:31 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-05 10:59:28 AM  

bulldg4life: Whatever happens...you know the stadium is going to be rocking and rolling. They've been waiting a while.


They are pretty good at doing The Wave. I've seen that quite a few times this season. It's all new for most of DC so it should be an interesting side show.

SlothB77: Medlen, Venters and Kimbrel have Nats fans very very concerned.


I guess most people are figuring Atlanta will move on. I would rather see Nats vs Braves too, just because it's a nice divisional matchup. DC went 5-4 both at home and in Atlanta this year. The two teams know each other really well, and I think they like playing each other. Would definitely draw great TV ratings.
 
2012-10-05 10:59:33 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Cutting out of work early to get to my nosebleed seats at the Ted. Can't freaking wait.


So is the game sold out, or is it back to the old ways and like 10,000 seats are still open?
 
2012-10-05 11:02:48 AM  
But seriously, dudes, Atlanta sports jokes aside, if we lose this game you might need to put me on suicide watch.

/Priorities not in order
//You could tell me that a lady broke up with me and that my cat is dead and I'd be pretty bummed
///You could tell me that they moved the Thrashers and you'd have to remove all the sharp things from my house
////They WHAT?
 
2012-10-05 11:03:01 AM  

Gunny Highway: People dislike La Russa and claim he turned a blind eye to PED use. That is a reason to dislike a team.


Sure it, and I won't argue that point- but that wasn't his original point. He came right out the the gate with

Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.


I'll accept "fark the cards" based on the LaRussa thing, but I took umbrage with "Worse fans in baseball", when that's simply not the case, from an objective standpoint:

Attendance
% of park capacity utilized
Sellouts
Consumption of branded team merch
And anecdotally, the bit I mentioned about players/coaches/managers really liking St. Louis fans, and playing here- STL fans are happy to applaud for the opposing team when they make a great play.

Whatever. Sports arguments are even less rational than political ones.
 
2012-10-05 11:03:26 AM  

mjohnson71: Rapmaster2000: Cutting out of work early to get to my nosebleed seats at the Ted. Can't freaking wait.

So is the game sold out, or is it back to the old ways and like 10,000 seats are still open?


I am pretty sure it is standing room only. There were 50,000 in the stands for Chipper's last three games, so I've got to believe there will be 50,000 tonight.
 
2012-10-05 11:05:25 AM  

grinding_journalist: Gunny Highway: People dislike La Russa and claim he turned a blind eye to PED use. That is a reason to dislike a team.

Sure it, and I won't argue that point- but that wasn't his original point. He came right out the the gate with

Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.

I'll accept "fark the cards" based on the LaRussa thing, but I took umbrage with "Worse fans in baseball", when that's simply not the case, from an objective standpoint:

Attendance
% of park capacity utilized
Sellouts
Consumption of branded team merch
And anecdotally, the bit I mentioned about players/coaches/managers really liking St. Louis fans, and playing here- STL fans are happy to applaud for the opposing team when they make a great play.

Whatever. Sports arguments are even less rational than political ones.


Or that on a weeknight, in April, against a crappy team Cardinals fans will still sell out Busch Stadium?
 
2012-10-05 11:06:06 AM  

bulldg4life: mjohnson71: Rapmaster2000: Cutting out of work early to get to my nosebleed seats at the Ted. Can't freaking wait.

So is the game sold out, or is it back to the old ways and like 10,000 seats are still open?

I am pretty sure it is standing room only. There were 50,000 in the stands for Chipper's last three games, so I've got to believe there will be 50,000 tonight.


As someone who is hundreds of miles away and can't possibly attend, if there is even one empty seat in that stadium, please kick someone's ass for me.
 
2012-10-05 11:07:37 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.


i47.photobucket.com


I have you farkied as 'Hates the Cardinals'. Why the irrational hatred?
 
2012-10-05 11:07:44 AM  

Nabb1: As someone who is hundreds of miles away and can't possibly attend, if there is even one empty seat in that stadium, please kick someone's ass for me.


5pm game in Atlanta. There are people that will be stuck in traffic until 9pm. Tomorrow.
 
2012-10-05 11:10:53 AM  

bulldg4life: Nabb1: As someone who is hundreds of miles away and can't possibly attend, if there is even one empty seat in that stadium, please kick someone's ass for me.

5pm game in Atlanta. There are people that will be stuck in traffic until 9pm. Tomorrow.


I haven't lived in Atlanta in 30 years, but I've driven through enough times to know that is totally a believable scenario.
 
2012-10-05 11:20:28 AM  
Postseason games don't count as far as streaks are concerned. Except for postseason streaks.
 
2012-10-05 11:21:21 AM  
Cards fan here. I have never regarded myself as one of the worse fans in baseball, but I am an asshole.


Hope they beat the piss out of the Braves tonight.
 
2012-10-05 11:27:59 AM  

SlothB77: idesofmarch: Hey subby, can we discuss Orioles/Rangers in there too? Or will there be a separate thread for that one? Or does that game not really matter?

the game is three hours later. you guys get your own thread.


Well OK then - usually there's one thread for the whole day.
 
2012-10-05 12:03:16 PM  

Nabb1: bulldg4life: mjohnson71: Rapmaster2000: Cutting out of work early to get to my nosebleed seats at the Ted. Can't freaking wait.

So is the game sold out, or is it back to the old ways and like 10,000 seats are still open?

I am pretty sure it is standing room only. There were 50,000 in the stands for Chipper's last three games, so I've got to believe there will be 50,000 tonight.

As someone who is hundreds of miles away and can't possibly attend, if there is even one empty seat in that stadium, please kick someone's ass for me.


In 2000 a group of us road tripped down to Atlanta for game 3 of the NLDS and bought tickets right at the gate. And there were empty seats around us when we got into Turner Field.
 
2012-10-05 12:04:02 PM  

funk_soul_bubby: October baseball is best baseball.


THIS!
 
2012-10-05 12:10:09 PM  
Anything can happen in a one game winner take all.

/I'm sure a streaker will reveal himself at some point
//Why are there no female streakers?
///Go Cards!

JC
 
2012-10-05 12:11:51 PM  

Gunny Highway: grinding_journalist: So hating the fans because of what a manager did a decade ago is cause enough? Only in sports, man.

I dont hate the Cards fans. People dislike La Russa and claim he turned a blind eye to PED use. That is a reason to dislike a team. Especially when the fans are just so gosh darn nice all the time.


I am not a conspiracy theorist by any means, but the fact McGwire can somehow make Berkman and Beltran, two players past their primes, into having seasons that they should not have, is pretty suspicious.
 
2012-10-05 12:12:34 PM  
But I am of the opinion that 75% or more of players juice.
 
2012-10-05 12:19:36 PM  
i282.photobucket.com

Who do you guys have tonight?
 
2012-10-05 12:26:24 PM  

grinding_journalist: mjohnson71: I dare you to find more than 5 people in St. Louis who think 12 in '12 is possible. I'm just glad the Cardinals ended up over .500 with a rookie manager, no Pujols and a ton of injuries.

After last season, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks it's impossible; the difference is believing whether it'll happen or not.


See, I was all set to defend Cards fans somewhat, but come on man.

You're in the playoffs. Acting all "wah we suck" is kind of a dick move. Especially given that the Cards limped in in 2006 and 2011 and got rings out of it.
 
2012-10-05 12:28:33 PM  

Gunny Highway: [i282.photobucket.com image 480x640]

Who do you guys have tonight?


But would they wear skates or cleats?
 
2012-10-05 12:37:58 PM  
i979.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 12:44:33 PM  

The Bestest: [i979.photobucket.com image 288x285]


That took me a second, but I LOL'd.
 
2012-10-05 12:48:25 PM  

Dafatone: You're in the playoffs. Acting all "wah we suck" is kind of a dick move. Especially given that the Cards limped in in 2006 and 2011 and got rings out of it.


Where did I say "wah we suck"? Yeah, we're in the playoffs. No, nobody believes it can't happen; we just have realistic expectations given the state of the team at present.

Or were you biatching at the first guy?
 
2012-10-05 12:55:57 PM  

Dafatone: You're in the playoffs. Acting all "wah we suck" is kind of a dick move. Especially given that the Cards limped in in 2006 and 2011 and got rings out of it.


limping in actually seems to be the best indicator that they're World Series bound

Gunny Highway: [i282.photobucket.com image 480x640]

Who do you guys have tonight?


Hey, the Rangers have to do -something- during the lockout
 
2012-10-05 12:59:04 PM  

idesofmarch: The Bestest: [i979.photobucket.com image 288x285]

That took me a second, but I LOL'd.


Took me more than a second, and still don't get it. Did I just get Massethed?
 
2012-10-05 01:00:16 PM  

grinding_journalist: Dafatone: You're in the playoffs. Acting all "wah we suck" is kind of a dick move. Especially given that the Cards limped in in 2006 and 2011 and got rings out of it.

Where did I say "wah we suck"? Yeah, we're in the playoffs. No, nobody believes it can't happen; we just have realistic expectations given the state of the team at present.

Or were you biatching at the first guy?


I was biatching at the first guy, and too lazy to fix my misquote.
 
2012-10-05 01:02:12 PM  

roc6783: Took me more than a second, and still don't get it. Did I just get Massethed?


If you're watching the games on TBS you'll get it.
 
2012-10-05 01:03:50 PM  

mjohnson71: Nabb1: bulldg4life: mjohnson71: Rapmaster2000: Cutting out of work early to get to my nosebleed seats at the Ted. Can't freaking wait.

So is the game sold out, or is it back to the old ways and like 10,000 seats are still open?

I am pretty sure it is standing room only. There were 50,000 in the stands for Chipper's last three games, so I've got to believe there will be 50,000 tonight.

As someone who is hundreds of miles away and can't possibly attend, if there is even one empty seat in that stadium, please kick someone's ass for me.

In 2000 a group of us road tripped down to Atlanta for game 3 of the NLDS and bought tickets right at the gate. And there were empty seats around us when we got into Turner Field.


As of yesterday it was only SRO. I bought mine last week.
 
2012-10-05 01:06:49 PM  

Rapmaster2000: As of yesterday it was only SRO. I bought mine last week.


there's 847 on stubhub right now, most standing room and upper pavillion.

I'm contemplating going if any decent seats drop any further in price in the next couple of hours
 
2012-10-05 01:13:10 PM  
So we have a tie-breaker game between the Orioles and Rangers for the one wild-card spot in the AL and an exhibition game between the NL Wild Card, the Braves, and the far-behind wild-card-losers Cardinals.

In conclusion, play-in games are stupid in the NCAA basketball tournament and they're stupid here.
 
2012-10-05 01:14:24 PM  

lunchinlewis: bulldg4life: Hudson in game 1. Minor in game 2. Medlen in game 3.

Hudson is the worst pitcher in that stretch.

Barely, I guess.

But delaying having to face Medlen is at least some bonus to getting the top seed. Although I think the Nats came pretty close to getting a win last time they faced him. The Nats' game 3 starter will be an interesting decision.



I'm having trouble remembering the scores of the games for the last series between the Nats and Braves. I just remember that the Braves swept the Nats. Do you remember how close the games were, though? I bet some of those games were brutally close -- excruciatingly close.

/Go Braves
 
2012-10-05 01:15:41 PM  

JosephFinn: So we have a tie-breaker game between the Orioles and Rangers for the one wild-card spot in the AL and an exhibition game between the NL Wild Card, the Braves, and the far-behind wild-card-losers Cardinals.

In conclusion, play-in games are stupid in the NCAA basketball tournament and they're stupid here.


Yeah! and get rid of that abomination the forward pass!
 
2012-10-05 01:25:12 PM  

JosephFinn: So we have a tie-breaker game between the Orioles and Rangers for the one wild-card spot in the AL and an exhibition game between the NL Wild Card, the Braves, and the far-behind wild-card-losers Cardinals.

In conclusion, play-in games are stupid in the NCAA basketball tournament and they're stupid here.


Conclusion? You've made no argument to conclude. Lot's of complaints about one game, but nobody ever says why.

Teams don't like it? Win your division. That finally means something.
Fans don't like to watch it? Wait a day.
 
2012-10-05 01:34:56 PM  

The_Great_Hambino: I'm having trouble remembering the scores of the games for the last series between the Nats and Braves. I just remember that the Braves swept the Nats. Do you remember how close the games were, though? I bet some of those games were brutally close -- excruciatingly close.


I think they were pretty close. A lot closer than Atlanta came to winning the division, I know that much.
 
2012-10-05 01:46:11 PM  

JosephFinn: So we have a tie-breaker game between the Orioles and Rangers for the one wild-card spot in the AL and an exhibition game between the NL Wild Card, the Braves, and the far-behind wild-card-losers Cardinals.

In conclusion, play-in games are stupid in the NCAA basketball tournament and they're stupid here.


Cubs fan's tears really are salty

JC
 
2012-10-05 01:55:17 PM  

The Bestest: roc6783: Took me more than a second, and still don't get it. Did I just get Massethed?

If you're watching the games on TBS you'll get it.


Gotcha. I am not and so feel less dumb.
 
2012-10-05 02:04:39 PM  

lunchinlewis: I guess most people are figuring Atlanta will move on.


Medlen pitching at home. Atlanta has to be the favorite.
 
2012-10-05 02:07:12 PM  

Decillion: JosephFinn: So we have a tie-breaker game between the Orioles and Rangers for the one wild-card spot in the AL and an exhibition game between the NL Wild Card, the Braves, and the far-behind wild-card-losers Cardinals.

In conclusion, play-in games are stupid in the NCAA basketball tournament and they're stupid here.

Conclusion? You've made no argument to conclude. Lot's of complaints about one game, but nobody ever says why.

Teams don't like it? Win your division. That finally means something.
Fans don't like to watch it? Wait a day.


It penalizes the wild-card winner by forcing them to play in a play-in game against a team that couldn't even win the wild-card. Really, you needed that explained to you? This has absolutely nothing to do with winning your division and that's a straw-man argument.
 
2012-10-05 02:14:10 PM  

JosephFinn: It penalizes the wild-card winner...


and?
 
2012-10-05 02:27:05 PM  

The Bestest: JosephFinn: It penalizes the wild-card winner...

and?


And it's nothing more that MLB rigging a "tie" for the last playoff spot where one doesn't exist. Bud and the owners loved games coming down to the last day of the season, a do-or-die for a last spot, so they cooked this up. Oddly enough, even under the old system, Baltimore and Texas would have had to play a game to break their tie for the AL Wild Card. But in the National League, the Cardinals would have been eliminated last week. The MLB season is 162 games, plenty long enough to separate the top teams in baseball from the others. I can't fathom any reason why one team that finishes six or seven games or even more behind another team after 162 games should have that slate wiped clean and have a chance to advance based on the outcome of one game. Two divisions and the wild card in the American League really did come down to the last day, but this is just a way for baseball to grab some more cash. And if they are going to insist on this format, it is only fair to all teams to ditch the unbalanced schedules so that everyone is playing the same number of games against the same teams.
 
2012-10-05 02:37:00 PM  

Nabb1: but this is just a way for baseball to grab some more cash.


Extracting the only thing you needed to say.
 
2012-10-05 02:39:06 PM  
 
2012-10-05 02:44:55 PM  

Nabb1: The MLB season is 162 games, plenty long enough to separate the top teams in baseball from the others. I can't fathom any reason why one team that finishes six or seven games or even more behind another team after 162 games should have that slate wiped clean and have a chance to advance based on the outcome of one game.


The Braves finished six games ahead of the Cards. But if the Cards beat the Braves in one game, they get to advance. Seems legit.
 
2012-10-05 02:50:22 PM  

Nabb1: I can't fathom any reason why one team that finishes six or seven games or even more behind another team after 162 games should have that slate wiped clean and have a chance to advance based on the outcome of one game.


Well, then why should a best of 5 count? After all, 5 games out of 162 isn't really a lot either. It's all subjective, really. The whole of the playoffs can really come down to whoever happens to get hot or lucky in October - the actual format is irrelevant.

If the regular season record is what determines who is the best team (and I agree that it does), then why even have playoffs? Why not just crown the team with the best record? Imagine if there was a tie, and the winner would be decided by a playoff game - how exciting would that game be? That's how playoffs are born.

Back in reality though, the playoffs give fans a reason to root for their teams, and adding two more teams to the playoffs means two more teams worth of fans who stay involved come mid-September through October. That's good for ratings, so, yes, more money, but it's gotta be good for baseball too.
 
2012-10-05 02:52:50 PM  

SlothB77: The Braves finished six games ahead of the Cards. But if the Cards beat the Braves in one game, they get to advance. Seems legit.


The Braves should've won their division then.
 
2012-10-05 03:02:53 PM  

bulldg4life: SlothB77: The Braves finished six games ahead of the Cards. But if the Cards beat the Braves in one game, they get to advance. Seems legit.

The Braves should've won their division then.


I can't THIS this enough. MLB created this game for a) the Benjamins, b) the ratings (see a), and c) to give playoff-bound teams a reason to keep playing decent baseball for fans who might be priced out of playoff tickets (see a). I think I see a trend here.

I like the idea of these games, and not just because I happen to follow the one team this "helps" today. I think if there is some deserved rest needed for the postseason, it should go to teams that win more. Don't like it, maybe you should take those games in April and May a bit more seriously. Just ask Anaheim. I do wish they could make it so it's a best-of-three instead of the sudden death-like one game, but trying to fit that in with TV schedules and current labor agreements...well, you know the rest.
 
2012-10-05 03:04:31 PM  

idesofmarch: Well, then why should a best of 5 count?


I've long been a critic of best-of-five when the LCS and WS are seven games. I'd advocate scaling the regular season back to 154 games the way it used to be and go with seven games in the divisional round.
 
2012-10-05 03:06:15 PM  

bulldg4life: SlothB77: The Braves finished six games ahead of the Cards. But if the Cards beat the Braves in one game, they get to advance. Seems legit.

The Braves should've won their division then.


Well, that brings up the exact counter-point that supports this new format, which is to make winning the division of paramount importance. Under the old system, the only difference between being a wild card winner and being having the third-best record among division winners was seeding in the divisional round.
 
2012-10-05 03:17:12 PM  

SnatchMcGillicudy: MLB created this game for


SnatchMcGillicudy: but trying to fit that in with TV schedules and current labor agreements...well, you know the rest.


That's most of it.

MLB/Bud wanted more fan interest. The owners want more money/tv revenue. The players want more people to have a shot at a championship (plus the money) while also getting rewarded for a division championship (everybody hates the Marlins WS titles).

So, you add more teams. It keeps half a dozen more fan bases excited until September and creates more buzz. But, you are left with trying to fit them in to a pretty solid structure. The owners want more playoff games, but the players aren't going to accept more games and a bunch of off-days before they get to play.

A one-game playoff is really the only thing you can decide on because all of the other solutions don't work. It's just enough to make the team burn its best pitcher, but it isn't too much to put the division winner at a disadvantage by keeping them on the sidelines for 4+ days.
 
2012-10-05 03:22:24 PM  

bulldg4life: SlothB77: The Braves finished six games ahead of the Cards. But if the Cards beat the Braves in one game, they get to advance. Seems legit.

The Braves should've won their division then.


Man, I can't wait for you to tell all of us how MLB should set up the playoffs with only division winners with 3 divisions. Best record skips the first round? No, we had a pretty damn perfect system with 6 division winner and two wild cards. This play-in game is nothing but a stupid cash grab, and the Cardinals being six behind the Braves, losing the wild card, being eliminated last week and then getting another shot just proves how stupid the idea is.
 
2012-10-05 03:24:38 PM  

Nabb1: idesofmarch: Well, then why should a best of 5 count?

I've long been a critic of best-of-five when the LCS and WS are seven games. I'd advocate scaling the regular season back to 154 games the way it used to be and go with seven games in the divisional round.


I could live with that, though I do like having 162 games - maybe split the difference, go 158 - that or schedule some double-headers to make up the extra days.
 
2012-10-05 03:25:44 PM  

fenianfark: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.

[i47.photobucket.com image 285x400]


I have you farkied as 'Hates the Cardinals'. Why the irrational hatred?



I do, as well.

Can't tell if he's the bastard offspring of Don Denkinger, or a Cubs fan living in central Missouri
 
2012-10-05 03:29:41 PM  

SnatchMcGillicudy: bulldg4life: SlothB77: The Braves finished six games ahead of the Cards. But if the Cards beat the Braves in one game, they get to advance. Seems legit.

The Braves should've won their division then.

I can't THIS this enough. MLB created this game for a) the Benjamins, b) the ratings (see a), and c) to give playoff-bound teams a reason to keep playing decent baseball for fans who might be priced out of playoff tickets (see a). I think I see a trend here.

I like the idea of these games, and not just because I happen to follow the one team this "helps" today. I think if there is some deserved rest needed for the postseason, it should go to teams that win more. Don't like it, maybe you should take those games in April and May a bit more seriously. Just ask Anaheim. I do wish they could make it so it's a best-of-three instead of the sudden death-like one game, but trying to fit that in with TV schedules and current labor agreements...well, you know the rest.


I love baseball, but I didn't follow it much this year 'cause the Cubs were AWFUL. this my first time hearing about this one game playoff and it's WEAK. The Braves shouldn't have to play the Cardinals as stated above they have a better record, that sucks.
 
2012-10-05 03:34:50 PM  

grinding_journalist: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.

Indeed, there are worse fans in baseball.

What do you hate about Cards fans, specifically? The fact that we're rabidly passionate about a historic, respected, winning franchise in a "small market"? The fact that players, managers, and coaches around the league consistently regard Cards fans as some of the most dedicated, educated (about the game), classy fans out there?

Or is it just the fact that a flyover city in a flyover state has a good team? If you wanna hate on fans, hate on Yankees fans, as least that's fashionable.

First of all read my handle. Second I've never met a Cards fan that traveled to follow them that wasn't a drunken slob. They come to a stadium mock other teams traditions and act like jack a$&es
 
2012-10-05 03:35:26 PM  

JosephFinn: Man, I can't wait for you to tell all of us how MLB should set up the playoffs with only division winners with 3 divisions.


I'm not advocating something like that (it would be impossible without some weird round-robin or re-alignment).

JosephFinn: Best record skips the first round? No, we had a pretty damn perfect system with 6 division winner and two wild cards


I agree. It was pretty good. However, I would like to see more reward for winning a division vs just being a wild card.

JosephFinn: This play-in game is nothing but a stupid cash grab


Duh.
 
2012-10-05 04:05:31 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man:
First of all read my handle. Second I've never met a Cards fan that traveled to follow them that wasn't a drunken slob. They come to a stadium mock other teams traditions and act like jack a$&es


I take it you're a Royals fan.
If so, your "teams traditions" consist of winning one tainted championship in 43 years of existence.
You deserve to be mocked.
 
2012-10-05 04:14:51 PM  

Mr. Potatoass: Mid_mo_mad_man:
First of all read my handle. Second I've never met a Cards fan that traveled to follow them that wasn't a drunken slob. They come to a stadium mock other teams traditions and act like jack a$&es

I take it you're a Royals fan.
If so, your "teams traditions" consist of winning one tainted championship in 43 years of existence.
You deserve to be mocked.


Thank you, sir for proving my point.
 
2012-10-05 04:57:04 PM  
Who cares if they did it for money? This is going to be exciting.
 
2012-10-05 04:59:39 PM  
Almost baseball time. I got the Cards beating the Braves, and the O's beating the Rangers.

If you can believe it, my bracket is more tarded than last year.
 
2012-10-05 05:00:45 PM  
My lord....there's people in the upper deck at Turner Field
 
2012-10-05 05:02:32 PM  
Did the TBS feed freeze for anybody else?
 
2012-10-05 05:04:11 PM  

Scruffinator: Almost baseball time. I got the Cards beating the Braves, and the O's beating the Rangers.

If you can believe it, my bracket is more tarded than last year.


Braves and O's
 
2012-10-05 05:05:21 PM  

bulldg4life: My lord....there's people in the upper deck at Turner Field


inorite?

Wrecking Ball > Written in the Stars
Discuss.
 
2012-10-05 05:06:37 PM  

Scruffinator: Almost baseball time. I got the Cards beating the Braves, and the O's beating the Rangers.

If you can believe it, my bracket is more tarded than last year.


my card is straight down the line higher seed, both sides
I hate doing that, but it's what my gut tells me
 
2012-10-05 05:06:41 PM  

The Bestest: bulldg4life: My lord....there's people in the upper deck at Turner Field

inorite?

Wrecking Ball > Written in the Stars
Discuss.


OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH
 
2012-10-05 05:08:40 PM  

The Bestest: my card is straight down the line higher seed, both sides
I hate doing that, but it's what my gut tells me


It crossed my mind as well, but I let my hangover determine my bracket. All this drinking has to be good for something.

/cheers
 
2012-10-05 05:10:44 PM  
oh thank god...my HD feed for TBS is back
 
2012-10-05 05:12:02 PM  
More strikes than the NHL.
 
2012-10-05 05:21:20 PM  
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but Beltran and Freese were huge in getting me a fantasy baseball win this year, so I'm rooting for the Cardinals. Go Cards!
 
2012-10-05 05:21:23 PM  
There's another thread now.
 
2012-10-05 05:25:34 PM  
Nice catch
 
2012-10-05 05:26:04 PM  

Foaming: There's another thread now.


not anymore
 
2012-10-05 05:26:11 PM  
Nice play at the wall.
 
2012-10-05 05:26:30 PM  
oh my lord what a catch
 
2012-10-05 05:27:40 PM  
over/under for K's by Medlen?
 
2012-10-05 05:27:53 PM  
Where'd the other thread go?
 
2012-10-05 05:28:23 PM  

The Bestest: over/under for K's by Medlen?


8
 
2012-10-05 05:28:51 PM  

Foaming: There's another thread now.


All sorted out, this one's been bumped.
 
Could use an AL thread for later if someone can come up with something good.
 
2012-10-05 05:29:02 PM  

little big man: Where'd the other thread go?


It was a duplicate of this one which used to be halfway down the page.
 
2012-10-05 05:30:15 PM  
I want to see Chipper get a home run tonight, especially if they lose
 
2012-10-05 05:30:52 PM  
Great catch by Heyward, Prado tried to push one to right field, will the hitters try their luck with fly balls in the sun?
 
2012-10-05 05:30:59 PM  
Goddamn it, we need to outlaw political ads during sports.
 
2012-10-05 05:34:53 PM  
Could someone tell Dennis Eckersley that the Sonny Bono look is dead.
 
2012-10-05 05:36:16 PM  

uncleacid: Could someone tell Dennis Eckersley that the Sonny Bono look is dead.


you could say it hit a tree.
 
2012-10-05 05:37:00 PM  

The Bestest: [i979.photobucket.com image 288x285]


If the actors in that ad got fifty bucks every time it airs, they'd drive a Bentley to the garage where they keep their Maybach.
 
2012-10-05 05:39:46 PM  
7 pitch walk to 2008 All Star MVP Dan Uggla
 
2012-10-05 05:41:40 PM  
Good thing they sat McCann I guess
 
2012-10-05 05:41:41 PM  
FGonz is a goddamn genius
 
2012-10-05 05:41:44 PM  
2-0 Bravos
 
2012-10-05 05:42:32 PM  
icing the pitcher?
 
2012-10-05 05:42:37 PM  
And a single.
 
2012-10-05 05:43:16 PM  
Never thought Mike Shanahan would help the Braves. Awesome.
 
2012-10-05 05:43:30 PM  
Not Bobby Cox (no clue who the skipper of the Braves is these days) makes the right move sitting down McCann.
 
2012-10-05 05:43:47 PM  

The Bestest: icing the pitcher?


I guess so, damn.

/didn't like that
 
2012-10-05 05:43:51 PM  
controversy?
 
2012-10-05 05:44:31 PM  
AVOCADOS!!!!!
 
GTP
2012-10-05 05:45:43 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: controversy?


Nope, no controversy. Umpire called time. Cards fans may not like it, but that's the rules.
 
2012-10-05 05:46:11 PM  
David Ross 2 run homer. Should not have been granted timeout (resulting in strikeout). but really Lohse,should you have dropped in the same pitch and location on a 1-2 count?
 
2012-10-05 05:47:30 PM  

GTP: What_Would_Jimi_Do: controversy?

Nope, no controversy. Umpire called time. Cards fans may not like it, but that's the rules.


bennett311: David Ross 2 run homer. Should not have been granted timeout (resulting in strikeout). but really Lohse,should you have dropped in the same pitch and location on a 1-2 count?


this never would've happened if Tony LaRussa were still alive
 
2012-10-05 05:52:20 PM  
I love the new format. Fixes the problem of over rewarding the wild card winners.
 
2012-10-05 05:57:29 PM  
i212.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 06:01:04 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I love the new format. Fixes the problem of over rewarding the wild card winners.


Yep. Selig's had some stupid ideas over the years, but this isn't one of them. (No surprise, then, that it wasn't his idea.)
 
2012-10-05 06:06:21 PM  
NICE THROW NOOBLAR
 
2012-10-05 06:06:33 PM  
Doh!
 
2012-10-05 06:06:34 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I love the new format. Fixes the problem of over rewarding the wild card winners.


But it is a cash grab, maaaaan
 
2012-10-05 06:07:06 PM  
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarry....
 
2012-10-05 06:07:22 PM  
We've secretly replaced Chipper Jones with Chuck Knoblauch, let's see if anyone notices.
 
2012-10-05 06:07:26 PM  
Chipper! Hope this doesn't dome back to haunt them.
 
2012-10-05 06:07:32 PM  

Gunny Highway: Lost Thought 00: I love the new format. Fixes the problem of over rewarding the wild card winners.

But it is a cash grab, maaaaan


It's what they call a win-win.
 
2012-10-05 06:09:17 PM  
Cards on the board!
 
2012-10-05 06:09:19 PM  
wtf medlen
 
2012-10-05 06:10:09 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I love the new format. Fixes the problem of over rewarding the wild card winners.


How do you feel about the 2-home 3-away division series schedule
 
2012-10-05 06:10:44 PM  

Scruffinator: Cards on the board!


with nobody out

fark atlanta

And I don't just mean the team
 
2012-10-05 06:11:44 PM  
All square
 
2012-10-05 06:11:48 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Scruffinator: Cards on the board!

with nobody out

fark atlanta

And I don't just mean the team


"Sure they got the Braves, but it's a third rate symphony"
 
2012-10-05 06:12:29 PM  
God damn. 3-2 Cards
 
2012-10-05 06:12:44 PM  

Scruffinator: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Scruffinator: Cards on the board!

with nobody out

fark atlanta

And I don't just mean the team

"Sure they got the Braves, but it's a third rate symphony"


The uh... the airport
 
2012-10-05 06:13:23 PM  
*barf*
 
2012-10-05 06:14:06 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The uh... the airport


i283.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 06:14:48 PM  
can't both the braves AND the cardinals lose? PUKE!
 
2012-10-05 06:17:06 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: grinding_journalist: Mid_mo_mad_man: Fark the Cards! Worse fans in baseball. Hope the 12 in 12 ends tonight.

Indeed, there are worse fans in baseball.

What do you hate about Cards fans, specifically? The fact that we're rabidly passionate about a historic, respected, winning franchise in a "small market"? The fact that players, managers, and coaches around the league consistently regard Cards fans as some of the most dedicated, educated (about the game), classy fans out there?

Or is it just the fact that a flyover city in a flyover state has a good team? If you wanna hate on fans, hate on Yankees fans, as least that's fashionable.
First of all read my handle. Second I've never met a Cards fan that traveled to follow them that wasn't a drunken slob. They come to a stadium mock other teams traditions and act like jack a$&es


Admittedly SOME of my fellow Cardinal fans don't travel well and act poorly: especially in KC and Chicago. I've always made a point to contain my drinking and not act like an ass.
 
2012-10-05 06:18:07 PM  

bulldg4life: wtf medlen


As a lifelong Cards fan, I'll take more WTF from the Braves. Well, in a bad way, not the "WTF?? How did he catch / hit that" way.
 
2012-10-05 06:18:20 PM  

pacified: can't both the braves AND the cardinals lose? PUKE!


They can, but they have to take turns. Hope you don't hate the Nats too.
 
2012-10-05 06:18:30 PM  

Scruffinator: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The uh... the airport

[i283.photobucket.com image 400x300]


you speak fish too? My accent is atrocious.
 
2012-10-05 06:20:07 PM  

pacified: Scruffinator: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The uh... the airport

[i283.photobucket.com image 400x300]

you speak fish too? My accent is atrocious.


why couldnt you be the other kind of mermaid?
 
2012-10-05 06:21:10 PM  
Simmons is out. He was inside the baseline.
 
2012-10-05 06:21:37 PM  
Hollleeeyyyy....
wow
 
2012-10-05 06:22:03 PM  
rook
 
2012-10-05 06:22:13 PM  
Joe is right...why is he bunting?
 
2012-10-05 06:25:08 PM  
WOW. What a break for the Cards.
\Quick rant: You're giving me the national TV audio on the 'net feed, suck it up and give me the video. You can even show the ads, that's fine with me.
 
2012-10-05 06:29:54 PM  
who has a stream?
 
2012-10-05 06:44:36 PM  
*le sigh*
 
2012-10-05 06:47:06 PM  
Where is everyone
 
2012-10-05 06:50:37 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Where is everyone


I had to go buy a wedding gift and then eat tacos. My hands are now free, so I can start posting (was watching the game while eating tacos).
 
2012-10-05 06:51:17 PM  

Polish Hussar: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Where is everyone

I had to go buy a wedding gift and then eat tacos. My hands are now free, so I can start posting (was watching the game while eating tacos).


Hmm. your taco idea is intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2012-10-05 06:52:54 PM  
Wow, Braves fans are excitable. Getting all a'twitter over a weak fly ball.
 
2012-10-05 06:53:04 PM  
Did he just say "sends it in the air to right", on that fly ball to left?
 
2012-10-05 06:53:35 PM  

bulldg4life: *le sigh*


It's a long game, and it doesn't take much to put up two runs. I'm still tense (though it does get worse whenever the ball is hit to left).
 
2012-10-05 06:53:50 PM  
>mikaloyd: who has a stream?

THIS.
 
2012-10-05 06:54:04 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Where is everyone


trying to find a stream
 
2012-10-05 06:56:17 PM  

mikaloyd: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Where is everyone

trying to find a stream


It's on TBS if you have cable
 
2012-10-05 07:02:10 PM  
what the hell just happened...
 
2012-10-05 07:02:18 PM  
WTF Uggla?
 
2012-10-05 07:02:38 PM  

bulldg4life: what the hell just happened...


The Braves tried to play baseball.
 
2012-10-05 07:05:10 PM  
Braves not looking like a playoff team.
 
2012-10-05 07:06:58 PM  
Ted Turner looks just thrilled to be there.
 
2012-10-05 07:07:46 PM  

Gunny Highway: Braves not looking like a playoff team.


They won't be for long.
 
2012-10-05 07:08:57 PM  
WOOOOOOO


How many errors is that now?
 
2012-10-05 07:08:59 PM  
The Braves are freaking out...

3 errors leading to....4? runs?
 
2012-10-05 07:09:15 PM  
2nd mistake from the rook
 
2012-10-05 07:09:18 PM  
1B needs a throwing error. Around the horn!
 
2012-10-05 07:09:31 PM  
LOL. NICE THROW NUBLAR
 
2012-10-05 07:09:54 PM  
Booyah!
 
2012-10-05 07:10:36 PM  
This is one hell of a meltdown, and I know meltdowns.

/cubs fan
 
2012-10-05 07:10:42 PM  
12 in 12, and to be the first team in history to win out of the new 2nd WC slot?

Make it so, Cards. I still have space on my feet.
 
2012-10-05 07:11:30 PM  

Gunny Highway: Braves not looking like a playoff team.


I think that their manager should adopt a new approach. If you commit an error you have to wash the manager's car. If the team wins Orange Lazarous for all.
 
2012-10-05 07:11:42 PM  

grinding_journalist: WOOOOOOO


How many errors is that now?


This reminds me of the Reds playoff appearance a few years back. They were talented but clearly a year or two away.

And here we are
 
2012-10-05 07:11:49 PM  

Riotboy: >mikaloyd: who has a stream?

THIS.


THIS x1000. I pay $120 at the start of the season for MLB.TV, then they want to charge me extra for "supplementary" coverage that won't even let me watch the game. Cable's a shiatty expense, I'm not buying it just for the postseason.

asdghag I'm going crazy, where's a damn stream? :P
 
2012-10-05 07:11:51 PM  
Whose farking idea was it for this elimination game crap?
 
2012-10-05 07:12:30 PM  
My bracket seems less silly now.
 
2012-10-05 07:13:04 PM  
...

Game. Blouses.
 
2012-10-05 07:13:07 PM  
dagger?
 
2012-10-05 07:13:25 PM  

Gunny Highway: grinding_journalist: WOOOOOOO


How many errors is that now?

 
2012-10-05 07:13:25 PM  

Kenny B: Whose farking idea was it for this elimination game crap?


Braves fan you are?
 
2012-10-05 07:13:56 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: mikaloyd: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Where is everyone

trying to find a stream

It's on TBS if you have cable


I always just plunk down the $5 for MLB's postseason streaming. Not as solid a presentation, but at least my four camera angles are staying synched this year.
\Go Kozma!
 
2012-10-05 07:14:04 PM  

Scruffinator: My bracket seems less silly now.


conversely, mine's about to go bye bye

thanks a lot, Larry
 
2012-10-05 07:14:36 PM  

Kenny B: Whose farking idea was it for this elimination game crap?


What don't you like about it?

The Bestest: dagger?


One swing of the bat. Lots of baseball to play

The Bestest: dagger?

 
2012-10-05 07:15:39 PM  

Kenny B: Whose farking idea was it for this elimination game crap?


People who love excitement, drama, fun, money, more fanbases engaged at the end of the season, baseball, sports, life?
 
2012-10-05 07:18:05 PM  

The Bestest: Scruffinator: My bracket seems less silly now.

conversely, mine's about to go bye bye

thanks a lot, Larry


Remember, the rules are different this year.

Round Points Per Correct Selection Maximum Points Per Round
Wild Card Winner 5 10
Division Series Winner 10 40
League Championship Series winner 15 30
World Series Winner 25 25

/tried to make that readable
 
2012-10-05 07:18:12 PM  
Late to the thread, just getting home from work.

First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.

Second, if I were a Braves fan I'd have been worried about them going into this game. Their complaining about the play in game after they clinched seemed odd....like issuing excuses ahead of time. I obviously understand why they hate the entire concept, but the players complaining about it after having just clinched seemed off.

Third, I wonder how much the idea of the Cardinals farking them two years in a row is playing into this game and the three errors thus far.
 
2012-10-05 07:18:46 PM  
Rams win last night, Birds up tonight. Expected to lose both, looking to turn it on the house. Good start to the weekend :D

/now if only hockey was going...
 
2012-10-05 07:20:03 PM  
That lady is holding the tomahawk backwards.
 
2012-10-05 07:20:09 PM  

Stitch Jones: This is one hell of a meltdown, and I know meltdowns.

/cubs fan


I agree, this is one hell of a meltdown, and I know meltdowns.

/Chernobyl engineer
 
2012-10-05 07:20:11 PM  
Not what I expected.
 
2012-10-05 07:20:12 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Late to the thread, just getting home from work.

First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.

Second, if I were a Braves fan I'd have been worried about them going into this game. Their complaining about the play in game after they clinched seemed odd....like issuing excuses ahead of time. I obviously understand why they hate the entire concept, but the players complaining about it after having just clinched seemed off.

Third, I wonder how much the idea of the Cardinals farking them two years in a row is playing into this game and the three errors thus far.


I agree. The one-game playoff is stupid. Whether we benefit from it or not this year, it sucks.
 
2012-10-05 07:20:15 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: Rams win last night, Birds up tonight. Expected to lose both, looking to turn it on the house. Good start to the weekend :D

/now if only hockey was going...


Or you had a basketball team.
 
2012-10-05 07:20:46 PM  

grinding_journalist: That lady is holding the tomahawk backwards.


Just like how the Braves are shooting themselves in the foot.
 
2012-10-05 07:21:23 PM  

Gunny Highway: Kenny B: Whose farking idea was it for this elimination game crap?

What don't you like about it?


Don't know much about it. I do know Braves has better record therefore advance to a series not this half baked shiat. Oh well. When does the NBA start?
 
2012-10-05 07:22:15 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.


If not for the new format, your Cardinals wouldn't even be here.
 
2012-10-05 07:22:36 PM  

great_tigers: Or you had a basketball team.


Atlanta took ours...I think. Is tonight finally payback for that event, whenever it occured?
 
2012-10-05 07:23:09 PM  
constanza!!!

/by mennen
 
2012-10-05 07:23:23 PM  
..and there's already a thread a few headlines down specifically for complaining about the format
 
2012-10-05 07:23:23 PM  

great_tigers: Tarheel_Madness: Rams win last night, Birds up tonight. Expected to lose both, looking to turn it on the house. Good start to the weekend :D

/now if only hockey was going...

Or you had a basketball team.


LOL I do. I'm from North Carolina, but college is still weeks away. I've lived in St. Louis for a very long time and grew up on the Cards, but the entire family goes for the Heels, so it's more a birthright at this point lol.
 
2012-10-05 07:25:06 PM  
But wait theres more...
 
2012-10-05 07:25:13 PM  

Kenny B: Gunny Highway: Kenny B: Whose farking idea was it for this elimination game crap?

What don't you like about it?

Don't know much about it. I do know Braves has better record therefore advance to a series not this half baked shiat. Oh well. When does the NBA start?


October 30th I'm pretty sure. Cant wait for this season.
 
2012-10-05 07:25:20 PM  
That's a big run.
 
2012-10-05 07:25:25 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: great_tigers: Or you had a basketball team.

Atlanta took ours...I think. Is tonight finally payback for that event, whenever it occured?


I don't think the NBA would be successful here. We've football and we are barely making that stick. The only thing we'll ever keep in St. Louis is hockey and baseball. Everything else is in the air.
 
2012-10-05 07:26:34 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: great_tigers: Tarheel_Madness: Rams win last night, Birds up tonight. Expected to lose both, looking to turn it on the house. Good start to the weekend :D

/now if only hockey was going...

Or you had a basketball team.

LOL I do. I'm from North Carolina, but college is still weeks away. I've lived in St. Louis for a very long time and grew up on the Cards, but the entire family goes for the Heels, so it's more a birthright at this point lol.


So who is your favorite non-professional team?
 
2012-10-05 07:27:12 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: We've football and we are barely making that stick.


I'm really afraid that the Rams are gonna bail. We should clearly do that wacky double-relocation where LA gets the Jags and the Jags swap into the NFC West and the Rams go to the AFC South.
 
2012-10-05 07:28:00 PM  
Jeez, that was some speed and a good piece of hitting.

Also, I think if you expand the WC to two teams a one-game play-in is fine. Burning a starter puts the WC team at a disadvantage, which is how it should be. A series, even a short one, would eliminate the "win your division" advantage due to too much time off.
 
2012-10-05 07:28:09 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: great_tigers: Or you had a basketball team.

Atlanta took ours...I think. Is tonight finally payback for that event, whenever it occured?


We are coming up on the 45th anniversary
 
2012-10-05 07:28:21 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: Shrugging Atlas: Late to the thread, just getting home from work.

First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.

Second, if I were a Braves fan I'd have been worried about them going into this game. Their complaining about the play in game after they clinched seemed odd....like issuing excuses ahead of time. I obviously understand why they hate the entire concept, but the players complaining about it after having just clinched seemed off.

Third, I wonder how much the idea of the Cardinals farking them two years in a row is playing into this game and the three errors thus far.

I agree. The one-game playoff is stupid. Whether we benefit from it or not this year, it sucks.


Yeah it's WEAK.

/the Braves deserved more than just one game, they had a better record
 
2012-10-05 07:31:04 PM  

Riotboy: /the Braves deserved more than just one game, they had a better record


..but not as good as the Nats'. Which is the point.

Huh, looks like the Braves aren't on the cart just yet.
 
2012-10-05 07:31:10 PM  
CHIPPER!!
 
2012-10-05 07:31:20 PM  

Riotboy: Tarheel_Madness: Shrugging Atlas: Late to the thread, just getting home from work.

First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.

Second, if I were a Braves fan I'd have been worried about them going into this game. Their complaining about the play in game after they clinched seemed odd....like issuing excuses ahead of time. I obviously understand why they hate the entire concept, but the players complaining about it after having just clinched seemed off.

Third, I wonder how much the idea of the Cardinals farking them two years in a row is playing into this game and the three errors thus far.

I agree. The one-game playoff is stupid. Whether we benefit from it or not this year, it sucks.

Yeah it's WEAK.

/the Braves deserved more than just one game, they had a better record


Those aren't the rules anymore. Do you still complain about the DH and inter league play? You guys do, don't you?

Niiiice. Here we go Chipper!
 
2012-10-05 07:31:48 PM  

Riotboy: /the Braves deserved more than just one game, they had a better record


They did, but the emphasis this year was changed from "winning" to "winning the division". And the truth is any of the WC teams are capable of making a good run.
\Come on Cards, hold it together.
 
2012-10-05 07:31:48 PM  
i don't mind this format. can you imagine the massive butthurt if the rangers beat the orioles later.

/go bombers
 
2012-10-05 07:31:58 PM  
Can Chipper redeem himself? No.
 
2012-10-05 07:32:00 PM  
Ugh. First pitch
 
2012-10-05 07:32:11 PM  

WalkingSnake: Riotboy: >mikaloyd: who has a stream?

THIS.

THIS x1000. I pay $120 at the start of the season for MLB.TV, then they want to charge me extra for "supplementary" coverage that won't even let me watch the game. Cable's a shiatty expense, I'm not buying it just for the postseason.

asdghag I'm going crazy, where's a damn stream? :P


at least the AL game has one.

I blame the Braves owner
 
2012-10-05 07:32:11 PM  

great_tigers: Tarheel_Madness: great_tigers: Tarheel_Madness: Rams win last night, Birds up tonight. Expected to lose both, looking to turn it on the house. Good start to the weekend :D

/now if only hockey was going...

Or you had a basketball team.

LOL I do. I'm from North Carolina, but college is still weeks away. I've lived in St. Louis for a very long time and grew up on the Cards, but the entire family goes for the Heels, so it's more a birthright at this point lol.

So who is your favorite non-professional team?


The Tar Heels (NCAAB). I'll root for Mizzou when they're good, but it's a band wagon thing.
 
2012-10-05 07:32:23 PM  
Well. That was disappointing.
 
2012-10-05 07:32:51 PM  
What a fantastic end of your career. Weak ground ball to second on the first pitch....
 
2012-10-05 07:33:00 PM  

grinding_journalist: Tarheel_Madness: We've football and we are barely making that stick.

I'm really afraid that the Rams are gonna bail. We should clearly do that wacky double-relocation where LA gets the Jags and the Jags swap into the NFC West and the Rams go to the AFC South.


Whatever it takes to keep the Rams here, I'm game.

/I'd even go for a tax increase to support new stadium
//football is important
 
2012-10-05 07:34:15 PM  

bulldg4life: What a fantastic end of your career. Weak ground ball to second on the first pitch....


Better than a strikeout looking.
 
2012-10-05 07:34:32 PM  

bulldg4life: What a fantastic end of your career. Weak ground ball to second on the first pitch....


Bite your tongue, blasphemer!
 
2012-10-05 07:34:52 PM  

The Bestest: Shrugging Atlas: First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.

If not for the new format, your Cardinals wouldn't even be here.


Right, which is why I stated I was a Cardinals fan. That's how much I can't farking stand it.

You have a sport that is entirely predicated on series...through the entire regular season and through the entire playoffs. It's built into the sport. The strategy around who to pitch when, matchups, etc. I love it.

The playoff setup was great....an even number of teams, a 5 game division series and a 7 game league and world series. Good stuff. And as each of those 4 teams on each side clinched near the end of the season they got to party and celebrate knowing another series awaited them at the end of the season.

Now, you take all that but in between the playoffs and the regular season you drop this completley bizarre and out of place 163rd game. It has no place. Teams that 'clinch' a spot in this game do what exactly? Celebrate the lottery ticket they just got? And let's not forget what happens if two teams tie for that second spot... they have to play a play in game for the play in game. What the fark? It's just absurd.

Look, if MLB wanted to generate more money and/or punish the Wild Card team by making them play more and fark up their rotation, then make it a three game series like teams play all year long. And don't allow 1 game tie breaker games for the second spot....team with the best head to head record, division record, etc makes it in. Everyone else goes home. That saves you time. You'd add very little length to the playoffs, MLB gets their extra pile of money, and the division winners get to rest up. But faaaaarrk single game elimination games.
 
2012-10-05 07:35:49 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: bulldg4life: What a fantastic end of your career. Weak ground ball to second on the first pitch....

Better than a strikeout looking.


That was a joke because Beltran was up, right?
 
2012-10-05 07:37:13 PM  
Braves are my favorite team in the NL, I really hope that Chipper gets a chance to hit one more time. His range has gone down a lot.
 
2012-10-05 07:37:21 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: Whatever it takes to keep the Rams here, I'm game.


How about the Rams go back to LA and we inherit the Jags?
 
2012-10-05 07:38:00 PM  

Gunny Highway: Those aren't the rules anymore. Do you still complain about the DH and inter league play? You guys do, don't you?


I don't complain about them, which is the point. There are such things as good rule changes and bad ones. This is a bad one. The Wild Card? Great change. The new interleague format next year? Great change? Making the All Star Game determine home field advantage for the World Series? A bad one.
 
2012-10-05 07:38:42 PM  
And c'mon Yadi.....!
 
2012-10-05 07:40:46 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: The Bestest: Shrugging Atlas: First, as a Cardinals fan let me say I farking hate this 1 game play in shiat, I don't care what the score of the game is now or the outcome. This game no more feels like a playoff game than one in June. I guess I'll get used to it eventually but I'll never understand why a sport that revolves entirely around series decides to go with this bullshiat sudden death gimmick.

If not for the new format, your Cardinals wouldn't even be here.

Right, which is why I stated I was a Cardinals fan. That's how much I can't farking stand it.

You have a sport that is entirely predicated on series...through the entire regular season and through the entire playoffs. It's built into the sport. The strategy around who to pitch when, matchups, etc. I love it.

The playoff setup was great....an even number of teams, a 5 game division series and a 7 game league and world series. Good stuff. And as each of those 4 teams on each side clinched near the end of the season they got to party and celebrate knowing another series awaited them at the end of the season.

Now, you take all that but in between the playoffs and the regular season you drop this completley bizarre and out of place 163rd game. It has no place. Teams that 'clinch' a spot in this game do what exactly? Celebrate the lottery ticket they just got? And let's not forget what happens if two teams tie for that second spot... they have to play a play in game for the play in game. What the fark? It's just absurd.

Look, if MLB wanted to generate more money and/or punish the Wild Card team by making them play more and fark up their rotation, then make it a three game series like teams play all year long. And don't allow 1 game tie breaker games for the second spot....team with the best head to head record, division record, etc makes it in. Everyone else goes home. That saves you time. You'd add very little length to the playoffs, MLB gets their extra pile of money, and the division w ...


Well said, sir.
 
2012-10-05 07:40:59 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: Shrugging Atlas: great_tigers: Or you had a basketball team.

Atlanta took ours...I think. Is tonight finally payback for that event, whenever it occured?

I don't think the NBA would be successful here. We've football and we are barely making that stick. The only thing we'll ever keep in St. Louis is hockey and baseball. Everything else is in the air.


Oh god no, the NBA wouldn't have a chance. And don't forget we almost lost the Blues in the late 90s as well.

And while this is a MLB thread: Fark the NHL and yet another lockout.
 
2012-10-05 07:41:00 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Look, if MLB wanted to generate more money and/or punish the Wild Card team by making them play more and fark up their rotation, then make it a three game series like teams play all year long. And don't allow 1 game tie breaker games for the second spot....team with the best head to head record, division record, etc makes it in. Everyone else goes home. That saves you time. You'd add very little length to the playoffs, MLB gets their extra pile of money, and the division winners get to rest up. But faaaaarrk single game elimination games.


So the team that wins their division sits around for 4 or 5 days in a sport that is all about consistency and momentum?

I like this more than the old way. End of the season is more exciting and these games have the potential to be classics.
 
2012-10-05 07:42:06 PM  
How did the Braves get to the playoffs with such a lousy infield?
 
2012-10-05 07:42:31 PM  

grinding_journalist: Tarheel_Madness: Whatever it takes to keep the Rams here, I'm game.

How about the Rams go back to LA and we inherit the Jags?


I like our defense...and when was the last time you trusted anything out of Florida. They've a tag for a reason.
 
2012-10-05 07:45:01 PM  

Gunny Highway: Shrugging Atlas: Look, if MLB wanted to generate more money and/or punish the Wild Card team by making them play more and fark up their rotation, then make it a three game series like teams play all year long. And don't allow 1 game tie breaker games for the second spot....team with the best head to head record, division record, etc makes it in. Everyone else goes home. That saves you time. You'd add very little length to the playoffs, MLB gets their extra pile of money, and the division winners get to rest up. But faaaaarrk single game elimination games.

So the team that wins their division sits around for 4 or 5 days in a sport that is all about consistency and momentum?

I like this more than the old way. End of the season is more exciting and these games have the potential to be classics.


This.

Until you have 2 or 4 divisions in each league, no solution is going to satisfy everyone.

This gives more teams a chance, which I'm sure those teams are happy about, one game playoff or not... while still keeping the MLB with the smallest proportion of teams competing in the playoffs out of any major sports league... and also gives those teams real motivation to win their division regardless of their wild card standing.

Seems pretty good to me.
 
2012-10-05 07:45:41 PM  
I don't like the Braves and I don't give a shiat about the Cardinals, but this is still a pretty exciting game, moreso for the fans I'm sure
 
2012-10-05 07:46:52 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: ook, if MLB wanted to generate more money and/or punish the Wild Card team by making them play more and fark up their rotation, then make it a three game series like teams play all year long. And don't allow 1 game tie breaker games for the second spot....team with the best head to head record, division record, etc makes it in. Everyone else goes home. That saves you time. You'd add very little length to the playoffs, MLB gets their extra pile of money, and the division winners get to rest up. But faaaaarrk single game elimination games.


They aren't going to force division winners to have 3/4/5 days off at the start of the playoffs. It would screw them over.
 
2012-10-05 07:48:12 PM  
Another rally by the Bravos!
 
2012-10-05 07:48:55 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Gunny Highway: Shrugging Atlas: Look, if MLB wanted to generate more money and/or punish the Wild Card team by making them play more and fark up their rotation, then make it a three game series like teams play all year long. And don't allow 1 game tie breaker games for the second spot....team with the best head to head record, division record, etc makes it in. Everyone else goes home. That saves you time. You'd add very little length to the playoffs, MLB gets their extra pile of money, and the division winners get to rest up. But faaaaarrk single game elimination games.

So the team that wins their division sits around for 4 or 5 days in a sport that is all about consistency and momentum?

I like this more than the old way. End of the season is more exciting and these games have the potential to be classics.

This.

Until you have 2 or 4 divisions in each league, no solution is going to satisfy everyone.

This gives more teams a chance, which I'm sure those teams are happy about, one game playoff or not... while still keeping the MLB with the smallest proportion of teams competing in the playoffs out of any major sports league... and also gives those teams real motivation to win their division regardless of their wild card standing.

Seems pretty good to me.


THIS! For all of it's many faults, at least baseball gets this right. It's called win or stay at home.
 
2012-10-05 07:49:10 PM  
fark THIS UP TOO, SIMMONS!
 
2012-10-05 07:49:23 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I don't like the Braves and I don't give a shiat about the Cardinals, but this is still a pretty exciting game, moreso for the fans I'm sure


Our bullpen has been inconsistent since the 90's. Nothing is over until the 9th is complete lol.

/not comfortable with three run lead
 
2012-10-05 07:50:57 PM  
My brothers relation to Chipper playing poorly:

If it had been against the mets, he would be 4-4 and would have flown across the field to make the unassisted double play.

Funny part is it is true.
 
2012-10-05 07:51:19 PM  
zomg
 
2012-10-05 07:51:24 PM  
what a mistake!!!!
 
2012-10-05 07:51:25 PM  
Duh
 
2012-10-05 07:51:25 PM  
LOL.. what was THAT?!
 
2012-10-05 07:51:27 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I don't like the Braves and I don't give a shiat about the Cardinals, but this is still a pretty exciting game, moreso for the fans I'm sure

Our bullpen has been inconsistent since the 90's. Nothing is over until the 9th is complete lol.

/not comfortable with three run lead


LoL more like your defense, mirite?
 
2012-10-05 07:51:30 PM  
That was hilarious
 
2012-10-05 07:51:34 PM  
Ohhhh boy
 
2012-10-05 07:51:37 PM  
What is the SS doing?
 
2012-10-05 07:51:58 PM  

bulldg4life: They aren't going to force division winners to have 3/4/5 days off at the start of the playoffs. It would screw them over.


You mean like they do right now??

The last games of the regular season were Wednesday. One NLDS and one ALDS don't start until Sunday.
 
2012-10-05 07:51:59 PM  
Bull shiat.
 
2012-10-05 07:52:00 PM  
IFR???  WTF???
 
2012-10-05 07:52:00 PM  

Nabb1: idesofmarch: Well, then why should a best of 5 count?

I've long been a critic of best-of-five when the LCS and WS are seven games. I'd advocate scaling the regular season back to 154 games the way it used to be and go with seven games in the divisional round.


Fark the Best-of-x principle then. Have all three of the preceding rounds two-legged (one at each team's stadium) with aggregate scorelines deciding the ties. Fewer games and more impetus on how they're won.
 
2012-10-05 07:52:03 PM  
Infield fly rule .....are you shiatting me?
 
2012-10-05 07:52:06 PM  
That's awful
 
2012-10-05 07:52:17 PM  
Infield fly? What?
 
2012-10-05 07:52:35 PM  
That clicking sound you hear is the sound of every woman viewer googling the infield fly
 
2012-10-05 07:52:35 PM  
that is bullshiat
 
2012-10-05 07:52:46 PM  
That's motherf*cking bullshiat.

He's 80 feet out in to the outfield. That's unbelievable.
 
2012-10-05 07:52:57 PM  
wait, they called infield fly? Did MLB hire the potato refs?
 
2012-10-05 07:53:02 PM  
That wasn't infield fly rule!
 
2012-10-05 07:53:13 PM  
RIOT?!
 
2012-10-05 07:53:13 PM  
"After further review, touchdown for the Blues."
 
2012-10-05 07:53:29 PM  
Stay classy, Atlantans
 
2012-10-05 07:53:33 PM  
no it is embarassing for the umpiring crew
 
2012-10-05 07:53:33 PM  
Wow. How much did we pay the umps for that infield fly call?
 
2012-10-05 07:53:37 PM  
Riot in Atlanta!
 
2012-10-05 07:53:38 PM  
Wow!! Thats ugly.
 
2012-10-05 07:53:39 PM  
God is just messing with the Braves at this point
 
2012-10-05 07:53:45 PM  
WOW trash on the field
 
2012-10-05 07:53:47 PM  
5 more feet and that would have been on the warning track. Atrocious call.
 
2012-10-05 07:53:49 PM  
These replacement umps suck
 
2012-10-05 07:53:55 PM  
That wasn't infield fly rule, but the fans are dicks, so fark it.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:04 PM  
Did they just add a new Outfield Fly Rule?
 
2012-10-05 07:54:06 PM  
Start coming up with your headlines now, folks.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:13 PM  
That was a cock sucking call!
 
2012-10-05 07:54:25 PM  

cendojr: Wow. How much did we pay the umps for that infield fly call?


My mum got stiffed on her hotel bill after we left StL on Wednesday. Corellation?
 
2012-10-05 07:54:27 PM  
seattletimes.com

Last seen in Atlanta.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:31 PM  
Bud can't be happy about this. Why can't that call be over turned? The review would take waaaay less time than cleaning up 1000 bottles.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:33 PM  
lol, this is farking awesome.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:38 PM  
This is a black day for baseball.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:41 PM  
Bad call for Chipper.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:46 PM  
That was bullshiat
 
2012-10-05 07:55:03 PM  
Unbelievable.
 
2012-10-05 07:55:14 PM  
gifsoup.com
 
2012-10-05 07:55:37 PM  
It's going to take forever to clean up all those beer bottles.
 
2012-10-05 07:55:44 PM  
I'm blaming that call on Joe West.
 
2012-10-05 07:55:51 PM  
What a joke - expanded ump crew and they fark this one up badly.
 
2012-10-05 07:55:58 PM  

Gunny Highway: Bud can't be happy about this. Why can't that call be over turned? The review would take waaaay less time than cleaning up 1000 bottles.


STL would argue if they hadn't made that call, they would have tried to catch the ball.
 
2012-10-05 07:56:18 PM  
Bases loaded with 1 out.

90 feet out in to the outfield.
 
2012-10-05 07:56:32 PM  
Bad call.

But Kozma catches that if the ump doesn't yell infield fly, anyway.

Way to show some class in Chipper's last game, chucklefarks.
 
2012-10-05 07:56:35 PM  

DamnYankees: Gunny Highway: Bud can't be happy about this. Why can't that call be over turned? The review would take waaaay less time than cleaning up 1000 bottles.

STL would argue if they hadn't made that call, they would have tried to catch the ball.


The call was too late for them to make that bullshiat claim
 
2012-10-05 07:56:36 PM  
Wow... Shiatty call, but really Atlanta? Yes, let's throw trash on the field during what could potentially be Chipper's last game.
 
2012-10-05 07:56:39 PM  
Every umpire in baseball needs to be banned for life.

It is the only option. Start completely fresh.
 
2012-10-05 07:56:42 PM  
OMG
 
2012-10-05 07:57:10 PM  

greenlady1: Wow... Shiatty call, but really Atlanta? Yes, let's throw trash on the field during what could potentially be Chipper's last game.


I repeat: stay classy, Atlantans.
 
2012-10-05 07:57:17 PM  
As a Cards fan I agree bad call.

But shiatty response by the Braves fans. Very unclassy.
 
2012-10-05 07:57:29 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: DamnYankees: Gunny Highway: Bud can't be happy about this. Why can't that call be over turned? The review would take waaaay less time than cleaning up 1000 bottles.

STL would argue if they hadn't made that call, they would have tried to catch the ball.

The call was too late for them to make that bullshiat claim


Of course. I'm just saying that would be the argument.
 
2012-10-05 07:57:34 PM  
Well, we got a wild game, that's for sure.
 
2012-10-05 07:57:47 PM  
Sorry Braves fans, that was a bullshiat call. It's like they took temporary refs from the NFL and combined them with NHL refs to form the Voltron of Fail umpires.
 
2012-10-05 07:58:03 PM  
Can't they double up the runners, who didn't tag after the ball dropped. I'd like to see the crowd then...
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 07:58:18 PM  
Stay classless, Braves fans.
 
2012-10-05 07:58:19 PM  
I say redo the game
 
2012-10-05 07:58:23 PM  
This horrendous call and fan riot delay is brought to you by AVOCADOS.
 
2012-10-05 07:58:29 PM  

Dafatone: But Kozma catches that if the ump doesn't yell infield fly, anyway.


How on Earth is the SS going to catch that when he stops and looks at the LF?

No way he catches it...
 
2012-10-05 07:58:45 PM  

BlameMabel: Can't they double up the runners, who didn't tag after the ball dropped. I'd like to see the crowd then...


Ball is dead on an infield fly. Runners just go back to their base.
 
2012-10-05 07:58:47 PM  
If the Braves win, the rest of the games at Turner field should be dry.
 
2012-10-05 07:59:02 PM  

BlameMabel: Can't they double up the runners, who didn't tag after the ball dropped. I'd like to see the crowd then...


Someone needs to read what the infield fly rule is
 
2012-10-05 07:59:08 PM  
No tagging up needed; ignore me.
 
2012-10-05 08:00:05 PM  
The ball isn't dead, runners can advance, but they only need to tag if the catch is actually made.
 
2012-10-05 08:00:17 PM  
I love it...MLB Gamecast just has "Delay" listed for the game.

Delay...because the Atlanta fans when apeshiat at a bullshiat call made despite there being like 15 umpires on the field.

I wonder how the Braves will resond to this in the next game of the se......fark.
 
2012-10-05 08:00:23 PM  
F*ck the announcers, its nice to see emotion out of the fans for the shiat call, let them show displeasure over farked up umps.

MLB umps are the biggest assholes in any sport, they believe they are god when it comes to calls
 
2012-10-05 08:00:29 PM  

bulldg4life: Dafatone: But Kozma catches that if the ump doesn't yell infield fly, anyway.

How on Earth is the SS going to catch that when he stops and looks at the LF?

No way he catches it...


It looks to me that he hears the umpire call infield fly at the last second, and thinks that's the LF calling him off.

This is speculation but that's what I'm seeing.
 
2012-10-05 08:00:33 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: [gifsoup.com image 320x240]


Scrolling through the thread, saw this. Everyone looking at my machine instantly lost their shiat.
 
2012-10-05 08:01:08 PM  

DaJesus: That was a cock sucking call!


Did you just call the ump a cock sucker? You're out of here!
 
2012-10-05 08:01:08 PM  

mjohnson71: If the Braves win, the rest of the games at Turner field should be dry.


If the Braves win or lose, Turner field should be bulldozed into the ground and the team moved to someplace not shiatty.
 
2012-10-05 08:01:14 PM  
I thought if they dont catch the ball everyone keeps running WTF! Please explain.
 
2012-10-05 08:01:28 PM  
Didn't the 3rd base umpire call it sooner?
 
2012-10-05 08:01:40 PM  
Chipper Jones will always remember the ticker tape parade beer bottle barrage the Ladies and Gentlemen of the Fair City of Atlanta threw for him on his last game.
 
2012-10-05 08:01:51 PM  
Seriously, there's still baseball to be played, bad call or not. WTF fans?
 
2012-10-05 08:01:55 PM  
it wasn't in the infield to begin with.
 
2012-10-05 08:01:58 PM  
Yeah...what does it matter if the game is under protest. It isn't going to be re-played.
 
2012-10-05 08:02:01 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: I love it...MLB Gamecast just has "Delay" listed for the game.

Delay...because the Atlanta fans when apeshiat at a bullshiat call made despite there being like 15 umpires on the field.

I wonder how the Braves will resond to this in the next game of the se......fark.


They were blowing the umps earlier in the game too.

Cards pitcher was rattled, that play would have knockedmhim out.
 
2012-10-05 08:02:03 PM  

jbc: Stay classless, Braves fans.


Ordinarily Brave fans are quiet and boring. I am proud of them tonight. They have turned into Red Sox fans.
 
2012-10-05 08:02:03 PM  
What is going on now? Stupid women chatting and cant hear. Are they reversing or just cleaning?
 
2012-10-05 08:02:18 PM  

Gunny Highway: be


According to the Official Rules of Baseball: Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder-not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire's judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire's judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately."
 
2012-10-05 08:02:19 PM  
i1.cpcache.com

/Even if they're right
 
2012-10-05 08:02:21 PM  
Fans still throwing shiat from the upper deck
 
2012-10-05 08:02:23 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: mjohnson71: If the Braves win, the rest of the games at Turner field should be dry.

If the Braves win or lose, Turner field should be bulldozed into the ground


With the umpires still inside though, right?
 
2012-10-05 08:02:24 PM  

Dafatone: Didn't the 3rd base umpire call it sooner?


To answer my question, no he did not.
 
2012-10-05 08:02:30 PM  

Doogled: DaJesus: That was a cock sucking call!

Did you just call the ump a cock sucker? You're out of here!


No! I said it was a cock sucking call!

Fine... You're a cocksucker...
 
2012-10-05 08:03:08 PM  

Gunny Highway: I like this more than the old way. End of the season is more exciting and these games have the potential to be classics.


Well you got that part right anyway. A classic fark up.
 
2012-10-05 08:03:37 PM  
I'll admit, I am biased because I hate the braves with every fiber of my being.

But when does this become a forfeit.
 
2012-10-05 08:03:59 PM  
Maybe we should leave the infield fly calls to the infield umps from now on.
 
2012-10-05 08:04:06 PM  

Dafatone: Bad call.

But Kozma catches that if the ump doesn't yell infield fly, anyway.

Way to show some class in Chipper's last game, chucklefarks.


Kozma started pulling away from the ball before the ump even moved his arm.
 
2012-10-05 08:04:11 PM  

Dafatone: I'll admit, I am biased because I hate the braves with every fiber of my being.

But when does this become a forfeit.


When Bud Selig grows some balls
 
2012-10-05 08:04:12 PM  
Professional sports officials make far too many ridiculously terrible calls to not make everything eligible for review and overturn.
 
2012-10-05 08:04:13 PM  

I can't get the cap off!: The All-Powerful Atheismo: mjohnson71: If the Braves win, the rest of the games at Turner field should be dry.

If the Braves win or lose, Turner field should be bulldozed into the ground

With the umpires still inside though, right?


I can accept that compromise.

upload.wikimedia.org

As long as you throw this guy in.
 
2012-10-05 08:04:23 PM  
Usually the country complains about empty stands at Turner Field in the playoffs. Touché, Atlanta.
 
2012-10-05 08:04:45 PM  
I can see the future. 

sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
 
2012-10-05 08:04:51 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: it wasn't in the infield to begin with.


Well it was at one point....for about two seconds after it left the bat.
 
2012-10-05 08:05:00 PM  
the crowd is saying "Boo-urn"
 
2012-10-05 08:05:02 PM  
If a real riot erupts, Braves forfit right?
 
2012-10-05 08:05:11 PM  
Putting the game under protest does jack crap
 
2012-10-05 08:05:14 PM  
This is the longest mid-game delay I can remember since Ripken broke the Iron Horse record.
 
2012-10-05 08:05:17 PM  
And we're under a trash delay in Atlanta...
 
2012-10-05 08:05:29 PM  

Foxxinnia: Dafatone: Bad call.

But Kozma catches that if the ump doesn't yell infield fly, anyway.

Way to show some class in Chipper's last game, chucklefarks.

Kozma started pulling away from the ball before the ump even moved his arm.


True. It's possible the ump yelled before pointing up. But whatever, the call still sucks. Certainly not arguing there.
 
2012-10-05 08:05:32 PM  

Kenny B: I thought if they dont catch the ball everyone keeps running WTF! Please explain.


They called the Infield Fly Rule
 
2012-10-05 08:05:39 PM  
How can it be a forfeit? Even if it hadn't been called wrong, there is no guarantee the Braves would have scored anything.
 
2012-10-05 08:05:46 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Gunny Highway: I like this more than the old way. End of the season is more exciting and these games have the potential to be classics.

Well you got that part right anyway. A classic fark up.


A stumble out of the blocks lol
 
2012-10-05 08:05:51 PM  
Did he just signal protest to God?
 
2012-10-05 08:06:18 PM  
The NFL has set the stage for the great Fan vs Ref wars of 2012-13.

Just wait for the NBA to start up.
 
2012-10-05 08:06:19 PM  
No way will the protest be upheld. It would have to be done in time to replay the end of the game tomorrow, or the NLDS schedule gets totally F'd up.
 
2012-10-05 08:06:24 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: How can it be a forfeit? Even if it hadn't been called wrong, there is no guarantee the Braves would have scored anything.


Forfeit in favor of STL because of the delay.
 
2012-10-05 08:06:29 PM  

UNC_Samurai: And we're under a trash delay in Atlanta...


A fan ran onto the field?
 
2012-10-05 08:06:36 PM  
Sucks to be you, Mitchell Boggs.
 
2012-10-05 08:06:43 PM  
Anyone else find it a bit amusing that they showed a ton of Bud Light bottles on the field with the overlay of the scoreboard Presented by Budweiser?
 
2012-10-05 08:06:48 PM  
Little did we know Selig added an Outfield Fly Rule to this play in game to make things really exciting.

Wait until the ninth inning when lions emerge from concealed pits in the outfield.....
 
2012-10-05 08:06:52 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: How can it be a forfeit? Even if it hadn't been called wrong, there is no guarantee the Braves would have scored anything.


I think the forfeit talk is about the Braves forfeiting eh? The garbage on the field is from their fans.
 
2012-10-05 08:06:57 PM  
over/under on fights going on in the stands right now?
 
2012-10-05 08:07:15 PM  

usernameguy: Did he just signal protest to God?


I think it will eventually get to Bud Selig, yes
 
2012-10-05 08:07:30 PM  
is he on the phone with Bud?
 
2012-10-05 08:07:31 PM  

wxboy: No way will the protest be upheld. It would have to be done in time to replay the end of the game tomorrow, or the NLDS schedule gets totally F'd up.


MLB will never accept that protest and replay the game. Never in a million years.

The Braves will lose and there will be a nothing change in the rule book during the winter owner's meeting.
 
2012-10-05 08:07:40 PM  
Is the ump talking to Selig now?
 
2012-10-05 08:07:50 PM  

wxboy: No way will the protest be upheld. It would have to be done in time to replay the end of the game tomorrow, or the NLDS schedule gets totally F'd up.


It'd have the same odds as a protest by the Cards that they had to pull a pitcher because of a 15 minute fan-created delay.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:01 PM  
This is insane.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:10 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I can't get the cap off!: The All-Powerful Atheismo: mjohnson71: If the Braves win, the rest of the games at Turner field should be dry.

If the Braves win or lose, Turner field should be bulldozed into the ground

With the umpires still inside though, right?

I can accept that compromise.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x284]

As long as you throw this guy in.


I was thinking we should just pack the stands with them.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:15 PM  
You have to call the game or empty the stadium
 
2012-10-05 08:08:28 PM  

The Bestest: is he on the phone with Bud?


Yes, the advertisers are very upset with these developments.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:29 PM  
Right, time for the MLB Snipers!
 
2012-10-05 08:08:30 PM  

bulldg4life: wxboy: No way will the protest be upheld. It would have to be done in time to replay the end of the game tomorrow, or the NLDS schedule gets totally F'd up.

MLB will never accept that protest and replay the game. Never in a million years.

The Braves will lose and there will be a nothing change in the rule book during the winter owner's meeting.


This isn't really a rule change issue. The rule is fine. It was just terribly applied.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:31 PM  
"Yeah, large, pepperoni and mushrooms..."
 
2012-10-05 08:08:32 PM  
Asterisk?
 
2012-10-05 08:08:45 PM  

Gunny Highway: Shrugging Atlas: Gunny Highway: I like this more than the old way. End of the season is more exciting and these games have the potential to be classics.

Well you got that part right anyway. A classic fark up.

A stumble out of the blocks lol


We have discovered Bug Selig's cunning plan, "Well at least they'll stop biatching about the All Star Game deciding home field advantage."
 
2012-10-05 08:08:45 PM  
get chipper out there on the PA and tell Atlanta to grow up. What a way to possibly go out.
 
2012-10-05 08:09:12 PM  

Lost Thought 00: You have to call the game or empty the stadium


The latter would be surreal.
 
2012-10-05 08:09:16 PM  

lunchinlewis: over/under on fights going on in the stands right now?


Over 20
 
2012-10-05 08:09:24 PM  

usernameguy: Did he just signal protest to God?


Just the ump watchingbthe play on a monitor in the stadium. No way they can find a way to solve this issue.
 
2012-10-05 08:09:43 PM  

usernameguy: "Yeah, large, pepperoni and mushrooms..."


"No, I don't need any drinks. The fans are providing that."
 
2012-10-05 08:10:02 PM  
The errors didn't really help either
 
2012-10-05 08:10:10 PM  
Wait, an ump got hit by something?

Call it.

/Yes, I am biased.
 
2012-10-05 08:10:17 PM  
LOL baseball!
 
2012-10-05 08:10:29 PM  

great_tigers: get chipper out there on the PA and tell Atlanta to grow up. What a way to possibly go out.


That's fine but when are professional officials who make terrible calls on a daily basis going to be held accountable for affecting the outcomes of games?
 
2012-10-05 08:10:44 PM  
Party on Atlanta
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 08:10:53 PM  

Kyle Butler: jbc: Stay classless, Braves fans.

Ordinarily Brave fans are quiet and boring. I am proud of them tonight. They have turned into Red Sox fans.


No, they're in danger of costing their team a playoff game. They've turned into Cubs fans.

danthemantrivia.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-05 08:10:57 PM  
"this is going to be nuts"
 
2012-10-05 08:11:16 PM  
God, first Eric Gregg in the 97 NLCS and now this. Don't tell me Tim McClelland is going to show up and start checking bats for pine tar.
 
2012-10-05 08:11:20 PM  
I got excited for 30 seconds when the ump came out and went straight to talk with Cards...

oh well
 
2012-10-05 08:11:35 PM  
So if the Braves win now can they still overturn the result because it was played under protest? That would be an epic troll.
 
2012-10-05 08:11:45 PM  

Foxxinnia: Dafatone: Bad call.

But Kozma catches that if the ump doesn't yell infield fly, anyway.

Way to show some class in Chipper's last game, chucklefarks.

Kozma started pulling away from the ball before the ump even moved his arm.


The ump didn't raise his arm until after it was completely clear the ball wasn't going to be caught.
 
2012-10-05 08:11:49 PM  

wxboy: No way will the protest be upheld. It would have to be done in time to replay the end of the game tomorrow, or the NLDS schedule gets totally F'd up.


By rule, the infield fly rule is not subject to appeal. Even if it was, there's no way MLB is going to overturn a judgment call like that. The umpire ruled the infielder could have caught it with "ordinary effort," and MLB's not going to second guess that subjective call.
 
2012-10-05 08:12:08 PM  
They are almost out of trah by now I'm sure.
 
2012-10-05 08:12:09 PM  
On the plus side, there is a finite amount of junk in the stands for people to throw, so it has to end eventually
 
2012-10-05 08:12:15 PM  
At this point, an outfielder diving for a ball is going to acquire quite a high BAC.
 
2012-10-05 08:12:32 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: usernameguy: "Yeah, large, pepperoni and mushrooms..."

"No, I don't need any drinks. The fans are providing that."


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-05 08:12:32 PM  
God if the Cardinals end up winning this and make a run in the playoffs.....

They get in with the new second Wild Card spot.
They advance due to a horribly shiatty call.

Between that and last year I'll honestly start thinking the Cards' owner sold his soul.
 
2012-10-05 08:12:34 PM  
Well the good news is fans can't buy any more beer
 
2012-10-05 08:12:44 PM  
Hey. At least Atlanta sold this game out.
 
2012-10-05 08:13:04 PM  

srhp29: great_tigers: get chipper out there on the PA and tell Atlanta to grow up. What a way to possibly go out.

That's fine but when are professional officials who make terrible calls on a daily basis going to be held accountable for affecting the outcomes of games?


I agree man, but you have to make sure that people are safe. Grand Valley (school near me) had the fans one time throwing snow balls onto the field. The coach got on the PA and told them to grow up.

Officials make mistakes.

Calvin Johnson catch, Jim Joyce perfect game.

Many many more.
 
2012-10-05 08:13:16 PM  
I'd go ahead and walk him intentionally
 
2012-10-05 08:13:46 PM  
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-05 08:13:47 PM  

srhp29: great_tigers: get chipper out there on the PA and tell Atlanta to grow up. What a way to possibly go out.

That's fine but when are professional officials who make terrible calls on a daily basis going to be held accountable for affecting the outcomes of games?


Exactly, right or wrong, what the fans did gives this more exposure. The spotlight moves to Bud and the umpires for the next few days.
 
2012-10-05 08:13:51 PM  

silgryphon: Well the good news is fans can't buy any more beer


Judging by the plethora of liquor bottles it makes no difference.
 
2012-10-05 08:14:11 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I'd go ahead and walk him intentionally


Pretty much
 
2012-10-05 08:14:14 PM  
Bases loaded
 
2012-10-05 08:14:17 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I'd go ahead and walk him intentionally


They basically did.
 
2012-10-05 08:14:27 PM  
And the bases are almost as loaded as the fans!
 
2012-10-05 08:14:27 PM  
Loaded up!!
 
2012-10-05 08:14:40 PM  
Awesome new zone.
 
2012-10-05 08:14:44 PM  
Did the fans actually bring trash to the game with them? Where the fark is that all coming from?
 
2012-10-05 08:15:03 PM  

Dafatone: Wait, an ump got hit by something?

Call it.

/Yes, I am biased.


I heard them say someone got hit by one of those tiny plastic liquor bottles you get from the airlines. Sounds about right for modern society.
 
2012-10-05 08:15:17 PM  

silgryphon: Bases loaded


So are the guns in the stands
 
2012-10-05 08:15:42 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Did the fans actually bring trash to the game with them? Where the fark is that all coming from?


Its a hidden power of mobs. Who actually brings heads of lettuce or tomatoes to a speech....
 
2012-10-05 08:15:43 PM  
Reminds me of this: Giants-Chargers iceball game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYVZ_1qPM0
 
2012-10-05 08:15:46 PM  
Should be 3-0
 
2012-10-05 08:16:00 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Did the fans actually bring trash to the game with them? Where the fark is that all coming from?


People are pretty good at generating trash. Ever been to a landfill?
 
2012-10-05 08:16:20 PM  

JJRRutgers: Reminds me of this: Giants-Chargers iceball game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYVZ_1qPM0


Or the Raiders-Patriots snow game?
 
2012-10-05 08:16:27 PM  
All of that trash being thrown around sure brought back memories of how WCW Monday Nitro episodes ended.
 
2012-10-05 08:16:43 PM  
[]
 
2012-10-05 08:16:50 PM  
Can someone tell Motte this isn't the top of the ninth? He's got nowhere to put that runner.....
 
2012-10-05 08:16:56 PM  
They should walk in two runs on purpose and then strike the third guy out. For the lulz.
 
2012-10-05 08:17:00 PM  
Ctrl-F

Human Element

No results? What's wrong with you people?
 
2012-10-05 08:17:10 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Little did we know Selig added an Outfield Fly Rule to this play in game to make things really exciting.

Wait until the ninth inning when lions emerge from concealed pits in the outfield.....


If anyone hits the Budweiser sign...MULTIBALLLLLLL!!!!
 
2012-10-05 08:17:12 PM  
Struck him out!
 
2012-10-05 08:17:15 PM  
whoa
 
2012-10-05 08:17:25 PM  
priceisrighthorn.wav
 
2012-10-05 08:17:31 PM  
Heard coming from the stands: "Waaaaaaaaahhhh"
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 08:17:38 PM  
On a side note:

"Let's flip to the WNBA playoff game" - Said nobody ever.
 
2012-10-05 08:17:51 PM  

Lou Cypher: Dafatone: Wait, an ump got hit by something?

Call it.

/Yes, I am biased.

I heard them say someone got hit by one of those tiny plastic liquor bottles you get from the airlines. Sounds about right for modern society.


I have to imagine Romans were sneaking drinks in when they went timwatch the Christians get fed to the lions.
 
2012-10-05 08:17:56 PM  
I can hardly blame the umpires. The Braves have had one of the least clutch hitting teams of all time for many many years now.
That said, it could have been different had that crappy call not been made. We'll never know.
 
2012-10-05 08:18:00 PM  
Sit the fark down over there!
 
2012-10-05 08:18:16 PM  
Whew......
 
2012-10-05 08:18:21 PM  
16 men left on base for the Braves
 
2012-10-05 08:18:44 PM  

square028: All of that trash being thrown around sure brought back memories of how WCW Monday Nitro episodes ended.


Goldberg beats Hogan.
 
2012-10-05 08:18:56 PM  
Chipper Jones due up 3rd in the bottom of the ninth
 
2012-10-05 08:18:59 PM  

bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves


They were lucky to get away without a too many men on the ice penalty.
 
2012-10-05 08:18:59 PM  

bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves


In one inning? How'd they manage that?
 
2012-10-05 08:18:59 PM  

Kyle Butler: jbc: Stay classless, Braves fans.

Ordinarily Brave fans are quiet and boring. I am proud of them tonight. They have turned into Red Sox fans.


Yeah we aren't philthydelpha fans.....
 
2012-10-05 08:19:34 PM  

bulldg4life: Chipper Jones due up 3rd in the bottom of the ninth


Good. I hope he strikes out to end their season and his career.
 
2012-10-05 08:19:38 PM  
Dear Jason,
Please stop with this drama queen "everyone look at the strikeout I get in the highest pressure situations" routine. I much prefer you just get quick outs.
Love
Everyone cheering for the birds.
 
2012-10-05 08:19:50 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Ctrl-F

Human Element

No results? What's wrong with you people?


You aren't here to lecture us are you? Whatever the argument, you are right.

Aaaand back to the action.
 
2012-10-05 08:20:02 PM  

bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves


Atlanta has never been known as a "clutch" hitting team. If not for all the amazing pitching over the years, no one would even know who Atlanta was.
 
2012-10-05 08:20:11 PM  
Somewhere fans are happy and in the umps they trust
But here a riots brewing, the Braves fans have goine nuts.
 
2012-10-05 08:20:30 PM  

Zombie Hitler: bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves

They were lucky to get away without a too many men on the ice much man penalty.

 
2012-10-05 08:20:52 PM  
Michael Bourne "The Braves best hitter in the clutch"...is now 3-15 with the bases loaded. Wow. Super clutch.
 
2012-10-05 08:21:03 PM  

bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves


Holy crap, that's nutso.
 
2012-10-05 08:21:44 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: square028: All of that trash being thrown around sure brought back memories of how WCW Monday Nitro episodes ended.

Goldberg beats Hogan.


Fingerpoke Of Doom.
 
2012-10-05 08:21:54 PM  

Moodybastard: Who actually brings heads of lettuce or tomatoes to a speech....


Somebody is a theater goer.
 
2012-10-05 08:22:00 PM  

jbc: Kyle Butler: jbc: Stay classless, Braves fans.

Ordinarily Brave fans are quiet and boring. I am proud of them tonight. They have turned into Red Sox fans.

No, they're in danger of costing their team a playoff game. They've turned into Cubs fans.

[danthemantrivia.files.wordpress.com image 300x264]


STFU.
 
2012-10-05 08:22:07 PM  
I don't always click voting buttons, but when I do, it's for A-N game rivals.
 
2012-10-05 08:22:16 PM  
Usually, a judgment call that can't be appealed is one of those ticky-tack things that's really difficult to judge or see.

Per the rule, the umpire made the wrong call. "Ordinarily," the outfielder makes a popup catch that's fifty feet in the outfield. "Ordinarily," you saw what happened, the SS may back out that far but then he defers the catch to the outfielder. Per this ump's f*cktarded decision, he's basically implying that any "triangle of death" pop-up should be called for the infield fly.

Also, it's hard to say that calling IFR when the ball is literally closer to the ground vertically than to the infield dirt is an "immediate" judgement. He made the call almost simultaneously with the SS backing (fronting?) off.
 
2012-10-05 08:22:49 PM  

cendojr: bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves

Holy crap, that's nutso.


And the Cardinals have six runs on six hits. Granted aided by three errors but still.

This game is just farking bizarre.
 
2012-10-05 08:22:59 PM  
In-field-fly! In-field-fly!
 
2012-10-05 08:23:22 PM  

square028: Tarheel_Madness: square028: All of that trash being thrown around sure brought back memories of how WCW Monday Nitro episodes ended.

Goldberg beats Hogan.

Fingerpoke Of Doom.


Didn't they have a feud after that? Hogan said it was real, Nash lol'd it and the two separated?
 
2012-10-05 08:23:55 PM  
last licks
 
2012-10-05 08:23:56 PM  
Craig Kimbrel for Cy Young
 
2012-10-05 08:24:02 PM  
Lol. Cardinals radio guys just said it was a good call.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:33 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: So if the Braves win now can they still overturn the result because it was played under protest? That would be an epic troll.


No it wouldn't be an automatic Braves win, it would be replaying the game from that point.

Also, I'm feeling kind of bad for Chipper Jones because this is kind of a crappy way for him to go out. I was at his last game in STL and he got a standing ovation from Cardinals fans.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:34 PM  
What are the odds on a riot in Atlanta after the game, assuming the braves lose?
 
2012-10-05 08:25:29 PM  

spidermilk: The All-Powerful Atheismo: So if the Braves win now can they still overturn the result because it was played under protest? That would be an epic troll.

No it wouldn't be an automatic Braves win, it would be replaying the game from that point.

Also, I'm feeling kind of bad for Chipper Jones because this is kind of a crappy way for him to go out. I was at his last game in STL and he got a standing ovation from Cardinals fans.


He got one in SF too. I was indifferent. I do not think he's a great player.
 
2012-10-05 08:25:40 PM  
Since the 1st of September, the Braves have averaged more than a run less per game than their season average. There is so little fire or urgency in that lineup and it's been that way for seemingly forever. Try changing the hitting coach again. Get Don Baylor back.
 
2012-10-05 08:25:42 PM  

rcantley: Lol. Cardinals radio guys just said it was a good call.


The Braves should post that on their score board for all the fans to see.
 
2012-10-05 08:26:08 PM  
Are we sure the umps in this game weren't working as potato refs in the NFL recently?
 
2012-10-05 08:26:30 PM  

Scruffinator: What are the odds on a riot in Atlanta after the game, assuming the braves lose?


Hard to riot when you're bumper to bumper on the Downtown Connector.
 
2012-10-05 08:26:50 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: cendojr: bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves

Holy crap, that's nutso.

And the Cardinals have six runs on six hits. Granted aided by three errors but still.

This game is just farking bizarre.


Because usually they are one of the better fielding teams, strange I woke up and this shiat happened, should stayed in bed....but nooooooo the gf wanted to drink. Its a rough life.
 
2012-10-05 08:26:53 PM  
Braves officially playing under protest.

/they STRENUOUSLY object
 
2012-10-05 08:27:09 PM  
Please close this out, Cards...
 
2012-10-05 08:27:39 PM  
Swing the f***ing bat you no heart bastards.
 
2012-10-05 08:27:41 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: square028: Tarheel_Madness: square028: All of that trash being thrown around sure brought back memories of how WCW Monday Nitro episodes ended.

Goldberg beats Hogan.

Fingerpoke Of Doom.

Didn't they have a feud after that? Hogan said it was real, Nash lol'd it and the two separated?


Sounds about right. Then again, WCW was such a shiat of a mess that nothing surprises me.
 
2012-10-05 08:27:49 PM  

Tarheel_Madness: Didn't they have a feud after that? Hogan said it was real, Nash lol'd it and the two separated?


HAHAHA why would the two nWo factions have feuded with each other that's just dumb

/WCW booker think OFF
 
2012-10-05 08:28:05 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.


A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.
 
2012-10-05 08:28:06 PM  
Come on Braves. Do it for Chipper.
 
2012-10-05 08:28:24 PM  
2 outs left in the Braves' season.
 
2012-10-05 08:29:03 PM  
Joe Torre is judge, jury, and executioner of the Braves? Did I hear that correctly?

/lulz
 
2012-10-05 08:29:13 PM  
INFIELD FLY!!!
 
2012-10-05 08:29:20 PM  
INFIELD FLY RULE!!! CALL IT UMP!!
 
2012-10-05 08:29:27 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: spidermilk: The All-Powerful Atheismo: So if the Braves win now can they still overturn the result because it was played under protest? That would be an epic troll.

No it wouldn't be an automatic Braves win, it would be replaying the game from that point.

Also, I'm feeling kind of bad for Chipper Jones because this is kind of a crappy way for him to go out. I was at his last game in STL and he got a standing ovation from Cardinals fans.

He got one in SF too. I was indifferent. I do not think he's a great player.


Then you're an idiot, but then SF fans think barroid is the best evar
 
2012-10-05 08:29:28 PM  

puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.


He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.
 
2012-10-05 08:29:37 PM  
Did someone just yell 'infield fly rule!'??
 
2012-10-05 08:29:38 PM  
"INFIELD FLY YOU MORON!" - some fan as the ball went back there
 
2012-10-05 08:29:41 PM  

robsul82: Tarheel_Madness: Didn't they have a feud after that? Hogan said it was real, Nash lol'd it and the two separated?

HAHAHA why would the two nWo factions have feuded with each other that's just dumb

/WCW booker think OFF


All I remember is Vince from the black and white getting the hell speared out of him via Godberg and Rick Steiner. Laughed my ass off.
 
2012-10-05 08:30:09 PM  
Hell of note to go out on.
 
2012-10-05 08:30:16 PM  
Chipper in Mudville
 
2012-10-05 08:30:17 PM  

steamingpile: Then you're an idiot, but then SF fans think barroid is the best evar


That was uncalled for, insulting, and also factually wrong.
 
2012-10-05 08:30:35 PM  
If you only go to one baseball game next year, make that game the wildcard playoff. This was awesomely entertaining.
 
2012-10-05 08:30:50 PM  
It IS nice to see that Lance Easley landed a new job so quickly after the NFL regulars went back to work.
 
2012-10-05 08:31:11 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: cendojr: bulldg4life: 16 men left on base for the Braves

Holy crap, that's nutso.

And the Cardinals have six runs on six hits. Granted aided by three errors but still.

This game is just farking bizarre.


Again, while I appreciate paying $5 to stream the postseason from the angle of my choosing, the inability to see scoring lines easily frustrates me.
 
2012-10-05 08:31:46 PM  
Come on Atlanta fans. Become vengeance. Become... wrath.
 
2012-10-05 08:31:48 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.


Ask Mets fans how good hemis.
 
2012-10-05 08:31:52 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.


You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?
 
2012-10-05 08:31:53 PM  

mikaloyd: If you only go to one baseball game next year, make that game the wildcard playoff. This was awesomely entertaining.


I got a feeling the AL WC game is going to be boring. I mean, it'd be hard to match this in any game, but still..
 
2012-10-05 08:32:06 PM  
sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
 
2012-10-05 08:32:13 PM  
SAFE!!!
 
2012-10-05 08:32:18 PM  
lulz
 
2012-10-05 08:32:23 PM  
LAAAAAAAAAARRY is safe, the Braves still with a heartbeat.
 
2012-10-05 08:32:24 PM  
LOL
 
2012-10-05 08:32:45 PM  
Good for him!
 
2012-10-05 08:32:47 PM  
LOL Chipper's last at-bat a hit on a broken bat. Good you you, dude.
 
2012-10-05 08:32:53 PM  
Leg it out Chipper. fark
 
2012-10-05 08:32:57 PM  
OK, fine, Chipper gets a hit in his last at bat.

Now close them the fark out Motte.
 
2012-10-05 08:33:07 PM  
OK now we are even on the calls, right?
 
2012-10-05 08:33:12 PM  
So, uh. Maybe Descalso doesn't do a stupid jump throw next time?
 
2012-10-05 08:33:25 PM  

Dafatone: You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?


... That says more about the position than anything.

LOL gap shot, ground rule double. Braves still have a chance.
 
2012-10-05 08:33:30 PM  
YEAH BABY!

Rally rally rally
 
2012-10-05 08:33:35 PM  
O's-Rangers has started on TNT, btw
 
2012-10-05 08:33:35 PM  
Ground-rule double. There's life in the Braves yet.
 
2012-10-05 08:33:36 PM  
Go out there and win just one for the Chipper
 
2012-10-05 08:33:38 PM  
Mike Piazza: I"m not going to call a grown man Chipper.
 
2012-10-05 08:33:39 PM  
Looky here!
 
2012-10-05 08:33:42 PM  
Tying run at the plate. Ohhhhhh boy
 
2012-10-05 08:33:47 PM  
Chipper was out and it wasn't even that close. St Louis should have gotten their protest in before the Freeman AB.
 
2012-10-05 08:33:57 PM  

spidermilk: OK now we are even on the calls, right?


Craig made that foot tag by 1/4 of a second.
 
2012-10-05 08:34:04 PM  
nakedphilly.com
 
2012-10-05 08:34:05 PM  

spidermilk: OK now we are even on the calls, right?


a single with two outs in the ninth is definitely equal to bases loaded w/ one out
 
2012-10-05 08:34:10 PM  
Jesus Farking Christ, Motte.........
 
2012-10-05 08:34:23 PM  
I've watched enough Cardinal games this year to expect this sort of thing.
 
2012-10-05 08:34:23 PM  
Good for Chipper, now LET'S GET AN OUT!
 
2012-10-05 08:34:31 PM  

Earguy: LOL Chipper's last at-bat a hit on a broken bat. Good you you, dude.


He looked out. And didnt run it out.
 
2012-10-05 08:34:33 PM  
Uggla will strike out or pop out
 
2012-10-05 08:34:38 PM  

Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?


I can name half a dozen off the top of my head. He's just been good and played for a long time. Not great. And if we're talking about his skill as a position player, how many GGs does he have? ___
 
2012-10-05 08:34:40 PM  
I wonder what ever happened to Chipper's twin brother, Dapper Jones?

/thought Chipper was out at first
 
2012-10-05 08:34:58 PM  
I just frame-advanced the replay...Craig touched the bag before Chipper got there.
 
2012-10-05 08:35:03 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Jesus Farking Christ, Motte.........


THIS
 
2012-10-05 08:35:03 PM  
Uggla's numbers are pretty good with two outs and men on. Shocker.
 
2012-10-05 08:35:06 PM  

silgryphon: Uggla will strike out or pop out


Why did I read that as "strike out or poop out"?
 
2012-10-05 08:35:18 PM  
Unrelated to baseball, got a splinter at work, digging it out with a needle. God damn trying to find this thing by pain alone.
 
2012-10-05 08:35:19 PM  

puffy999: Dafatone: You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

... That says more about the position than anything.

LOL gap shot, ground rule double. Braves still have a chance.


303 career hitter, 401 career OBP, 1600+ runs and rbi, and a career 141 ops+

WAR has him 31st among position players alltime.
 
2012-10-05 08:35:30 PM  
2nd and 3rd, two outs.....
 
2012-10-05 08:35:31 PM  
That second baseman didn't need to make that farked up play. He could have stopped, set and still thrown Chipper out be two steps.
 
2012-10-05 08:35:59 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

I can name half a dozen off the top of my head. He's just been good and played for a long time. Not great. And if we're talking about his skill as a position player, how many GGs does he have? ___


A half dozen? Do it.
 
2012-10-05 08:36:07 PM  

bulldg4life: spidermilk: OK now we are even on the calls, right?

a single with two outs in the ninth is definitely equal to bases loaded w/ one out


I agree that call was waaaaaaay worse and they should have overturned the call just so that we could win properly...
 
2012-10-05 08:36:19 PM  

puffy999: Dafatone: You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

... That says more about the position than anything.

LOL gap shot, ground rule double. Braves still have a chance.


What world am I in?
 
2012-10-05 08:36:19 PM  
And over
 
2012-10-05 08:36:20 PM  
WIN
 
2012-10-05 08:36:23 PM  
Cardinals advance!
 
2012-10-05 08:36:23 PM  
HA here comes the debris
 
2012-10-05 08:36:24 PM  
And here comes the second wave of trash.
 
2012-10-05 08:36:36 PM  
Aaaaaaaaand here comes the ammmmmbuuuulaaaannnce....
 
2012-10-05 08:36:38 PM  
..and Chipper's career ends off the bat of 2008 All Star Game MVP Dan Uggla
 
2012-10-05 08:36:55 PM  
Chipper Jones last game, walking off the field to a rain of garbage.


Stay Classy Atlanta!
 
2012-10-05 08:37:03 PM  
I shalln't post that troll pic again. Blew that load about 3 minutes early.
 
2012-10-05 08:37:04 PM  
Cards win! ARE YOU NOT SPORTS ENTERTAINED?
 
2012-10-05 08:37:21 PM  
And Chipper's curtain call begins...
 
2012-10-05 08:37:35 PM  
FARK YES!


In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.
 
2012-10-05 08:37:35 PM  
Shiat!! Thanks for the memories Chipper.
/throws beer at TV. Kidding.
 
2012-10-05 08:37:41 PM  
wsrings.stadiumpage.com

See you later, Team of the 90s!
 
2012-10-05 08:37:50 PM  
Also, I have 5 points on my MLB.com bracket. Woo!
 
2012-10-05 08:37:51 PM  
O's-Rangers thread up, minty fresh, game on TNT
 
2012-10-05 08:38:19 PM  
Ehhhh now I'm done with baseball St Louis sucks, nats are homos and the entire AL are full of women who doesn't know how to play real baseball.
 
2012-10-05 08:38:19 PM  
=(
 
2012-10-05 08:38:31 PM  

Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

I can name half a dozen off the top of my head. He's just been good and played for a long time. Not great. And if we're talking about his skill as a position player, how many GGs does he have? ___

A half dozen? Do it.


No, I don't have to answer your bullshiat challenge. You raised that issue, not me.

I'm talking about him. He's one of those players who has played well for a long time, but he holds few records of note, has not led many stats in any season, and doesn't even have 3000 hits or 500 home runs, the old sure-fire ways of getting into the hall, and has no gold gloves that I'm aware of.

And I never said he wasn't a good player, chode.
 
2012-10-05 08:38:33 PM  

Scruffinator: Aaaaaaaaand here comes the ammmmmbuuuulaaaannnce....


Announcer #1: And here come the pretzels!
Announcer #2: Hall of Famer Whitey Ford now on the field pleading with
the crowd for... for some kind of sanity.
Announcer #1: Uh-oh, and a barrage of pretzels now knocking Whitey
unconscious.
Announcer #2: Wow. This is uh... This is a black day for baseball.
 
2012-10-05 08:39:02 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: FARK YES!

In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.


Yeah it was, I can see the comments on the AJC blogs to fire Freddie tommorow
 
2012-10-05 08:39:14 PM  
So, are we all heading over to the Rangers tab? I'll meet you there. First round is on you.
 
2012-10-05 08:39:23 PM  
THAT was BONKERS.
 
2012-10-05 08:39:40 PM  

silgryphon: Shrugging Atlas: FARK YES!

In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.

Yeah it was, I can see the comments on the AJC blogs to fire Freddie tommorow


They had their shots.
 
2012-10-05 08:39:50 PM  

The Bestest: O's-Rangers thread up, minty fresh, game on TNT


And appropriately it starts with a mishandled ground ball in the infield
 
2012-10-05 08:40:01 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

I can name half a dozen off the top of my head. He's just been good and played for a long time. Not great. And if we're talking about his skill as a position player, how many GGs does he have? ___

A half dozen? Do it.

No, I don't have to answer your bullshiat challenge. You raised that issue, not me.

I'm talking about him. He's one of those players who has played well for a long time, but he holds few records of note, has not led many stats in any season, and doesn't even have 3000 hits or 500 home runs, the old sure-fire ways of getting into the hall, and has no gold gloves that I'm aware of.

And I never said he wasn't a good player, chode.


Lame.
 
2012-10-05 08:40:18 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: No, I don't have to answer your bullshiat challenge. You raised that issue, not me.


So you can't do it and you're just trolling Braves fans like you have been all night? Congrats.

Chipper could go be a DH and get those magic numbers if he wanted.
 
2012-10-05 08:40:19 PM  
Heh, when I was a kid, I went to a Braves game in Atlanta. It was "Frisbee night..." everyone got a frisbee with some restaurant logo on it. Pete Rose stole second on a close call, and Braves fans went apeshiat.

The field was white with frisbees. 25-minute delay while they cleared the field.
 
2012-10-05 08:40:19 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: silgryphon: Shrugging Atlas: FARK YES!

In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.

Yeah it was, I can see the comments on the AJC blogs to fire Freddie tommorow

They had their shots.


Ya, the errors cost them. The bad call was just the kick in the nuts
 
2012-10-05 08:40:58 PM  
Oh Matt Holiday, a bottle would never hurt you! *swoon*
 
2012-10-05 08:41:37 PM  
Champagne flying in the Cards locker room.

WE'RE IN THE BIG BOY PLAYOFFS WHOOOOO
 
2012-10-05 08:41:54 PM  
Cards get into Playoffs via new second wild card spot.
Cards advance with the help of a horrible call.
Cards now play the Nationals minus Strasburg (I hope....there seems to be a rumor he'll play).
 
2012-10-05 08:42:02 PM  

Dafatone: WAR has him 31st among position players alltime.


... again, a statement that has something to do with the position, because a "replacement" third baseman is a fat guy, bad defense, a .230 average, and a few homers more than other infield position players (aside from first base).

He's a great third baseman, a surefire HOFer, but he's one of those guys who was good for a long time more than a league superstar who changed the game/team around him (see: what Pujols was a couple years ago). That's nothing to sneeze at, because it worked for a guy like Hank Aaron.
 
2012-10-05 08:42:19 PM  
And this is why you must win the division next year Braves.
 
2012-10-05 08:42:27 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: steamingpile: Then you're an idiot, but then SF fans think barroid is the best evar

That was uncalled for, insulting, and also factually wrong.


If you don't think hes one of the best then you are an idiot, stats and every other baseball writer, reporter, and owner would say different.
 
2012-10-05 08:42:39 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

I can name half a dozen off the top of my head. He's just been good and played for a long time. Not great. And if we're talking about his skill as a position player, how many GGs does he have? ___

A half dozen? Do it.

No, I don't have to answer your bullshiat challenge. You raised that issue, not me.

I'm talking about him. He's one of those players who has played well for a long time, but he holds few records of note, has not led many stats in any season, and doesn't even have 3000 hits or 500 home runs, the old sure-fire ways of getting into the hall, and has no gold gloves that I'm aware of.

And I never said he wasn't a good player, chode.


Whatever.

I ask you to name the mythical half-dozen third basemen you claim you can name off the top of your head and you resort to namecalling. Way to be a douche, douche.

/Dude's 162 game average is over 300/30/100.
//If that's not great, alright.
 
2012-10-05 08:43:18 PM  

bulldg4life: The All-Powerful Atheismo: No, I don't have to answer your bullshiat challenge. You raised that issue, not me.

So you can't do it and you're just trolling Braves fans like you have been all night? Congrats.


No, idiot, I refuse to do something just because some asshole said.

Even if it was off the top of my head it would require more effort than you dumbasses are worth. I wasn't insulting any of you, I didn't even say Jones was a bad player, I just said I didn't like the Braves. Then I get personally insulted. So, fark you, be a douche with a small dick if you want, I don't have to do what he says if I don't want. I already explained, with stats, why *I* believe he is good and not great, which was the issue at hand. Deal with it.
 
2012-10-05 08:43:30 PM  

steamingpile: I woke up and this shiat happened, should stayed in bed....but nooooooo the gf wanted to drink. Its a rough life.


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-05 08:44:13 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Even if it was off the top of my head it would require more effort than you dumbasses are worth. I wasn't insulting any of you, I didn't even say Jones was a bad player, I just said I didn't like the Braves. Then I get personally insulted. So, fark you, be a douche with a small dick if you want, I don't have to do what he says if I don't want. I already explained, with stats, why *I* believe he is good and not great, which was the issue at hand. Deal with it.


You are trying incredibly too hard.
 
2012-10-05 08:44:24 PM  

robsul82: Champagne flying in the Cards locker room.

WE'RE IN THE BIG BOY PLAYOFFS WHOOOOO


Well to be fair they didn't party it up or bust out champagne when they clinched their second wild card spot so it's due. Thank Selig for this...strangeness.
 
2012-10-05 08:45:02 PM  
you are put on my block list because you made this personal, shiatfarkers. Enjoy your postseason. Oh wait if you're braves fans... enjoy your spring training in 5 months.
 
2012-10-05 08:45:42 PM  
Washington should beat us, but the two times we've won the WS since 2006, it was with teams that weren't supposed to win.

/Philly should've beat us last year in the DS
/Milwaukee should've in the CS
//Texas came close in the WS. Twice.
 
2012-10-05 08:45:52 PM  

steamingpile: The All-Powerful Atheismo: steamingpile: Then you're an idiot, but then SF fans think barroid is the best evar

That was uncalled for, insulting, and also factually wrong.

If you don't think hes one of the best then you are an idiot, stats and every other baseball writer, reporter, and owner would say different.


It doesn't matter because the new format is stupid and he doesn't care that the Cards won anyway.
 
2012-10-05 08:46:00 PM  

puffy999: Dafatone: WAR has him 31st among position players alltime.

... again, a statement that has something to do with the position, because a "replacement" third baseman is a fat guy, bad defense, a .230 average, and a few homers more than other infield position players (aside from first base).

He's a great third baseman, a surefire HOFer, but he's one of those guys who was good for a long time more than a league superstar who changed the game/team around him (see: what Pujols was a couple years ago). That's nothing to sneeze at, because it worked for a guy like Hank Aaron.


See, this makes sense. Kinda. I'd say your definition of a replacement 3b is a little off, but okay.

If a 141 career ops+ is only very good, that's just silly.

Similarly, if Aaron's only very good, that's also silly, but now we're just talking about where the greatness line is, instead of "meh, he's only okay, I'm not impressed. Plus it doesn't matter that there are very few great third basemen because I sad so"
 
2012-10-05 08:46:27 PM  

bulldg4life: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Even if it was off the top of my head it would require more effort than you dumbasses are worth. I wasn't insulting any of you, I didn't even say Jones was a bad player, I just said I didn't like the Braves. Then I get personally insulted. So, fark you, be a douche with a small dick if you want, I don't have to do what he says if I don't want. I already explained, with stats, why *I* believe he is good and not great, which was the issue at hand. Deal with it.

You are trying incredibly too hard.


Trying what? I'm sorry I think that that guy's personal gay hero isn't the greatest ever, and is just good, and give stats to back it up. I don't respond well to being personally insulted.
 
2012-10-05 08:46:59 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: you are put on my block list because you made this personal, shiatfarkers. Enjoy your postseason. Oh wait if you're braves fans... enjoy your spring training in 5 months.


Hahahahahahahaha someone thinks I'm a Braves fan. Seriously, that's hilarious.
 
2012-10-05 08:47:02 PM  

Gunny Highway: steamingpile: The All-Powerful Atheismo: steamingpile: Then you're an idiot, but then SF fans think barroid is the best evar

That was uncalled for, insulting, and also factually wrong.

If you don't think hes one of the best then you are an idiot, stats and every other baseball writer, reporter, and owner would say different.

It doesn't matter because the new format is stupid and he doesn't care that the Cards won anyway.


I like the new format but I don't care that the Cards won, true
 
2012-10-05 08:47:13 PM  
"There's flopping in baseball now?" - Boomer
 
2012-10-05 08:47:47 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: you are put on my block list because you made this personal, shiatfarkers. Enjoy your postseason. Oh wait if you're braves fans... enjoy your spring training in 5 months.


The All-Powerful Atheismo: Trying what? I'm sorry I think that that guy's personal gay hero isn't the greatest ever, and is just good, and give stats to back it up. I don't respond well to being personally insulted.


Yep. Searching for more anger.
 
2012-10-05 08:47:55 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: bulldg4life: The All-Powerful Atheismo: No, I don't have to answer your bullshiat challenge. You raised that issue, not me.

So you can't do it and you're just trolling Braves fans like you have been all night? Congrats.

No, idiot, I refuse to do something just because some asshole said.

Even if it was off the top of my head it would require more effort than you dumbasses are worth. I wasn't insulting any of you, I didn't even say Jones was a bad player, I just said I didn't like the Braves. Then I get personally insulted. So, fark you, be a douche with a small dick if you want, I don't have to do what he says if I don't want. I already explained, with stats, why *I* believe he is good and not great, which was the issue at hand. Deal with it.


Friendliest fans in the game, gents
 
2012-10-05 08:48:09 PM  
So what they are saying is a second baseman can go all the way to the warning track for a ball and then miss it and it's considered an infield fly
 
2012-10-05 08:48:24 PM  

Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?


I can't believe these idiots are saying this, the only 3rd baseman still above him is Brooks Robinson, he's in the top 3 of switch hitters of all time and he's at what 450+ HRs?

Stupid, just stupid. He's light years beyond jeter, especially since jeter never carried the yankees on his back in his prime.
 
2012-10-05 08:48:53 PM  
God if the Rangers get bounced after the last two seasons then barfing up the division lead on the last day....there will be suicides.
 
2012-10-05 08:49:54 PM  

silgryphon: So what they are saying is a second baseman can go all the way to the warning track for a ball and then miss it and it's considered an infield fly


In other news, Usain Bolt now playing second for the New York Yankees....
 
2012-10-05 08:50:07 PM  

silgryphon: So what they are saying is a second baseman can go all the way to the warning track for a ball and then miss it and it's considered an infield fly


Weird reasoning but I can kinda see it. The phrase "normal effort" is in there somewhere.
 
2012-10-05 08:51:15 PM  

spidermilk: bulldg4life: spidermilk: OK now we are even on the calls, right?

a single with two outs in the ninth is definitely equal to bases loaded w/ one out

I agree that call was waaaaaaay worse and they should have overturned the call just so that we could win properly...


There is an extra run home, possibly more since pitching, batting changes with bases loaded but then people today have no clue how to play the game any longer.
 
2012-10-05 08:52:25 PM  

steamingpile: Dafatone: The All-Powerful Atheismo: puffy999: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I do not think he's a great player.

A very good player for a long time. Nothing wrong with that... be thankful he wasn't a Yankee, because the hype would've been Jeter-like.

He's been good and he's got longevity but what I've seen has seemed Jeter-like which is why I am indifferent. He isn't as good as they say.

You guys are goddamned idiots. How many better third basemen can you name?

I can't believe these idiots are saying this, the only 3rd baseman still above him is Brooks Robinson, he's in the top 3 of switch hitters of all time and he's at what 450+ HRs?

Stupid, just stupid. He's light years beyond jeter, especially since jeter never carried the yankees on his back in his prime.


Mike Schmidt. Possibly Eddie Matthews.

But yeah.

/How the fark are we agreeing on something?
//Sorry you guys lost on a shiat call.
 
2012-10-05 08:54:53 PM  

Dafatone: Mike Schmidt. Possibly Eddie Matthews.


I could easily put Mike Schmidt and George Brett above Chipper.

I think you can argue about Eddie Mathews, Brooks Robinson, Chipper Jones, Wade Boggs,
 
2012-10-05 08:59:08 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: silgryphon: So what they are saying is a second baseman can go all the way to the warning track for a ball and then miss it and it's considered an infield fly

Weird reasoning but I can kinda see it. The phrase "normal effort" is in there somewhere.


Right. And, if you watch the replay, it's not like it took Kozma an all-out sprint to get to the ball. Until he was called off (at roughly the same time the infield fly was called), he was right there, with seemingly "ordinary effort." It's not a play you'll see called as an infield fly very often, but i'm not sure it was incorrect, given the wording of the rule.
 
2012-10-05 08:59:15 PM  
How likely is it for the protest to come back with "replay the game from the time when the protest was lodged" ruling?

And I'd add George Brett to the list of 3B perhaps better than Chipper. I think we could have fun arguing that one. But I think we're running out of people rapidly on this list.

/We can discuss Boggs later
//Chipper is a HoF, easy
 
2012-10-05 08:59:37 PM  

bulldg4life: Dafatone: Mike Schmidt. Possibly Eddie Matthews.

I could easily put Mike Schmidt and George Brett above Chipper.

I think you can argue about Eddie Mathews, Brooks Robinson, Chipper Jones, Wade Boggs,


I think Chipper edges out Brett and Boggs, but it's very close.
 
2012-10-05 09:00:14 PM  

tenton: How likely is it for the protest to come back with "replay the game from the time when the protest was lodged" ruling?


Never in a million years.

Bud Selig would contract the Brewers and Yankees before allowing the game to be replayed.
 
2012-10-05 09:00:25 PM  

El_Perro: The All-Powerful Atheismo: silgryphon: So what they are saying is a second baseman can go all the way to the warning track for a ball and then miss it and it's considered an infield fly

Weird reasoning but I can kinda see it. The phrase "normal effort" is in there somewhere.

Right. And, if you watch the replay, it's not like it took Kozma an all-out sprint to get to the ball. Until he was called off (at roughly the same time the infield fly was called), he was right there, with seemingly "ordinary effort." It's not a play you'll see called as an infield fly very often, but i'm not sure it was incorrect, given the wording of the rule.


Right. But it was incorrect to call it so late.
 
2012-10-05 09:01:23 PM  

tenton: How likely is it for the protest to come back with "replay the game from the time when the protest was lodged" ruling?

And I'd add George Brett to the list of 3B perhaps better than Chipper. I think we could have fun arguing that one. But I think we're running out of people rapidly on this list.

/We can discuss Boggs later
//Chipper is a HoF, easy


Chipper's also in the top 3 switch hitters of all time (Mantle, Murray). I'm not certain that counts for much. But, counts about as much as Athiesmo's measuring sticks of 500 hr and 3000 hits.
 
2012-10-05 09:01:29 PM  
On a side note, I'm glad that Joe Simpson got to be on the broadcast. I think he does a great job and it is cool to see him get national opportunities.
 
2012-10-05 09:04:22 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: El_Perro: The All-Powerful Atheismo: silgryphon: So what they are saying is a second baseman can go all the way to the warning track for a ball and then miss it and it's considered an infield fly

Weird reasoning but I can kinda see it. The phrase "normal effort" is in there somewhere.

Right. And, if you watch the replay, it's not like it took Kozma an all-out sprint to get to the ball. Until he was called off (at roughly the same time the infield fly was called), he was right there, with seemingly "ordinary effort." It's not a play you'll see called as an infield fly very often, but i'm not sure it was incorrect, given the wording of the rule.

Right. But it was incorrect to call it so late.


True, although given where the ball was, you'd expect the infield fly call to be a bit later than usual ("ordinary effort" will vary based on who's coming out to make the play, and it's tough to make that call until you see the guy's effort). Still, no reason to call it as late as it was called here.
 
2012-10-05 09:06:17 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: FARK YES!

In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.


Its OK the cards aren't good enough to go past 5 games
 
2012-10-05 09:06:21 PM  
The game should be re-played just so Brian McCann can ground in to an inning-ending double play like we all know he would have
 
2012-10-05 09:06:49 PM  

tenton: How likely is it for the protest to come back with "replay the game from the time when the protest was lodged" ruling?


Exactly zero.
 
2012-10-05 09:08:00 PM  

bulldg4life: Dafatone: Mike Schmidt. Possibly Eddie Matthews.

I could easily put Mike Schmidt and George Brett above Chipper.

I think you can argue about Eddie Mathews, Brooks Robinson, Chipper Jones, Wade Boggs,


Chipper passed all of their stats and he was better defensively than all but Brooks, Brett sucked at 3rd.
 
2012-10-05 09:08:38 PM  

steamingpile: Shrugging Atlas: FARK YES!

In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.

Its OK the cards aren't good enough to go past 5 games


Well I guess they are in good shape since the NLDS is only 5 games.
 
2012-10-05 09:10:39 PM  
Trolling Arizona last night, trolling Atlanta tonight.

What a great night to be a St. Louis sportsfan/troll
 
2012-10-05 09:10:59 PM  

steamingpile: bulldg4life: Dafatone: Mike Schmidt. Possibly Eddie Matthews.

I could easily put Mike Schmidt and George Brett above Chipper.

I think you can argue about Eddie Mathews, Brooks Robinson, Chipper Jones, Wade Boggs,

Chipper passed all of their stats and he was better defensively than all but Brooks, Brett sucked at 3rd.


Mathews hit 512 homers, and it counts some that he's the only guy in this conversation that played in the first 90 or so years of baseball.

Still, the obvious conclusion is that if you don't think Chipper's great, you crazy. Somehow 3b doesn't get no respect.
 
2012-10-05 09:11:39 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: steamingpile: Shrugging Atlas: FARK YES!

In all seriousness though, sorry Braves fans in this thread. This is a shiatty way to go out.

Its OK the cards aren't good enough to go past 5 games

Well I guess they are in good shape since the NLDS is only 5 games.


Yeah that's my point.

Man St Louis fans aren't what they used to be.........