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(CNN)   American Airlines to rearrange their version of Titanic deck chairs   (cnn.com) divider line 13
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2012-10-05 10:08:40 AM
Didn't they already start doing that mid flight?
 
2012-10-05 10:09:50 AM
Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration. Still suspicious of a deliberate act being responsible for this sudden cluster of seat loosening.
 
2012-10-05 11:00:25 AM
The fat people are breaking the chairs.
 
2012-10-05 11:10:21 AM

RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration. Still suspicious of a deliberate act being responsible for this sudden cluster of seat loosening.


FWIW, the TWU people are saying in the news here in Tulsa that they had no part in this (757 maintenance and overhauls are done here) and that the seat installation was farked up by a 3rd party contractor. (I'm not part of any airline or in the industry, just following the news pretty closely)

American is installing economy plus into its 757s, so if one contractor was doing all of the planes and farked up a specific process, that could explain why so many of that type went out with loose seats.
 
2012-10-05 11:26:32 AM

RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration.


Nah. Their planes are just horribly decrepid. Plans to have the youngest fleet in 5 years had better hurry the hell up...
 
2012-10-05 12:12:14 PM

Minarets: RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration. Still suspicious of a deliberate act being responsible for this sudden cluster of seat loosening.

FWIW, the TWU people are saying in the news here in Tulsa that they had no part in this (757 maintenance and overhauls are done here) and that the seat installation was farked up by a 3rd party contractor. (I'm not part of any airline or in the industry, just following the news pretty closely)

American is installing economy plus into its 757s, so if one contractor was doing all of the planes and farked up a specific process, that could explain why so many of that type went out with loose seats.


OK, that makes more sense. AA has said the seats were install both in Tulsa at their maintenance base and at TIMCO, a contractor in NC. TWU says TIMCO installed them all.

Say, does AA still have their data center/bunker underground there at TUL?
 
2012-10-05 12:21:59 PM

Outlaw2097: RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration.

Nah. Their planes are just horribly decrepid. Plans to have the youngest fleet in 5 years had better hurry the hell up...


My last 4 flights have been on ancient MD80s and 757s. I'd like to know where these new planes are that AA is supposedly adding to their fleet.
 
2012-10-05 01:02:37 PM

mjohnson71: Outlaw2097: RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration.

Nah. Their planes are just horribly decrepid. Plans to have the youngest fleet in 5 years had better hurry the hell up...

My last 4 flights have been on ancient MD80s and 757s. I'd like to know where these new planes are that AA is supposedly adding to their fleet.


Their new planes are mainly 777-300ERs which are being put on the long-haul international routes.
 
2012-10-05 01:10:07 PM

Gaumond: mjohnson71: Outlaw2097: RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration.

Nah. Their planes are just horribly decrepid. Plans to have the youngest fleet in 5 years had better hurry the hell up...

My last 4 flights have been on ancient MD80s and 757s. I'd like to know where these new planes are that AA is supposedly adding to their fleet.

Their new planes are mainly 777-300ERs which are being put on the long-haul international routes.


The new planes are 737s for the most part with a320s coming later. They have 300 md80s to replace so it will take a while. That said, I rarely get an md80 anymore. I say this sitting on an AA 737.
 
2012-10-05 01:32:10 PM
I'm sure they'll be fine
 
2012-10-05 01:54:54 PM

ohknaks: Gaumond: mjohnson71: Outlaw2097: RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration.

Nah. Their planes are just horribly decrepid. Plans to have the youngest fleet in 5 years had better hurry the hell up...

My last 4 flights have been on ancient MD80s and 757s. I'd like to know where these new planes are that AA is supposedly adding to their fleet.

Their new planes are mainly 777-300ERs which are being put on the long-haul international routes.

The new planes are 737s for the most part with a320s coming later. They have 300 md80s to replace so it will take a while. That said, I rarely get an md80 anymore. I say this sitting on an AA 737.


At least to/from St. Louis they seem to be running MD80s on a lot of routes: they must be dumping the cr*p planes on us. The only time I get anything newer with AA is if connecting through ORD or DFW.
 
2012-10-05 11:33:54 PM

Grand_Theft_Audio: Didn't they already start doing that mid flight?



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2012-10-08 06:26:30 AM

RatOmeter: Part of me is whispering "labor union - maintenance sabotage". That or hideously negligent maintenance training on that particular airframe configuration. Still suspicious of a deliberate act being responsible for this sudden cluster of seat loosening.


See what happened is that a maintenance employee saw the suggestion box in the break room. So he went to his supervisor, and said, "Since there are 8 bolts holding down each seat assembly, and there are 24 rows of seats (each seat assembly is 3 seats), that is 48 seat assemblies. If we take off 4 bolts from each seat assembly, that is 192 bolts. If each bolt weighs 1/2 a lb, that is 96 lbs of extra weight that we can take off each plane."

The supervisor said to him, "that sounds like a great idea. let's try it on a few planes. if it works, I'll put you in for employee of the month."
 
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