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(Chicago Sun-Times)   He's the star of a long-running television show. He has successful clothing lines, a large number of lucrative marketing deals, and is part of sold-out concert tours when not filming. Face it folks: Big Bird is part of the 1%   (suntimes.com) divider line 90
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2012-10-05 08:51:16 AM  
On the other hand, he lives on the street and was going to be put into foster care.
 
2012-10-05 09:40:38 AM  
It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions
 
2012-10-05 09:44:29 AM  
He's the star of a long-running PBS television show.

Nobody in public television makes that much money. Big Bird can't airdrop into the club, drop $20k on Cristal and Moet bottle service for his entourage, then go home with a pair of big gold-digging boobies. He'd have to step up to Blues Clues or The WIggles to get to that point.
 
2012-10-05 10:21:21 AM  
And, once PBS is de-funded, the deficit will be no more, right?


Oh. But, it will be heavily affected by those cuts, right?

Oh. This is nothing more than political vendettas mixed in with some red meat to stir up the mouth-breathers, isn't it?
 
2012-10-05 10:22:19 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

That's just how he rolls
 
2012-10-05 10:22:53 AM  

Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions


Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.
 
2012-10-05 10:23:23 AM  
Plucking the Big Bird ain't gonna save the Big Bucks.
 
mjg
2012-10-05 10:24:33 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Part of the 47%
 
2012-10-05 10:26:18 AM  
The subsidies aren't to help PBS, they allow stations in rural areas to broadcast PBS for free. If those subsidies are taken away, PBS will still be around, but those stations will shut down.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:37 AM  
Keep farkin' that chicken Dems.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:47 AM  
If only there were some other way to fund PBS...

a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-05 10:27:25 AM  
That's like me saying I'm going to lose weight by trimming my nails.


Best analogy EVER for this.

Here's the logic he used:

blogs.westword.com
 
2012-10-05 10:28:19 AM  

fragMasterFlash: If only there were some other way to fund PBS...

[a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 194x259]


So it finally happened. The garbage truck came by, and Oscar didn't get out in time. Always knew he'd go out that way.
 
2012-10-05 10:30:58 AM  

smadge1: Plucking the Big Bird ain't gonna save the Big Bucks.


Nor is it going to help anyone who is suffering. If you're struggling to get by, you probably don't even pay federal income tax, and you won't get some extra money in April because someone fired Big Bird.
 
2012-10-05 10:33:49 AM  

rkallister: That's like me saying I'm going to lose weight by trimming my nails.

Best analogy EVER for this.

Here's the logic he used:


Okay, that made me lol!
 
2012-10-05 10:34:26 AM  
Next up, Romney denies affair with Barney prompted Big Bird comments as a cover up.

i351.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 10:34:44 AM  

Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions


Its not "art" its education and news. In fact at this point as the programming is self supported its more of a broadcasting subsidy much like your telephone tax that goes to pay for rural and poor telephone service. Though I'd guess you are against those as well.
 
2012-10-05 10:35:41 AM  
indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us
 
2012-10-05 10:37:51 AM  

Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us


I remember this one time when Janet Reno marched into my house and changed the channel and gave me a menacing look, saying "You WILL watch Sesame Street."

God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.
 
2012-10-05 10:38:13 AM  
The smarmiest smirks in life are free.
 
Bf+
2012-10-05 10:40:27 AM  
Mitt Romney threatened to fire the moderator. That happened.
My head asplode.
 
2012-10-05 10:41:00 AM  
Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.
 
2012-10-05 10:41:14 AM  
OCCUPY SESAME STREET
 
2012-10-05 10:45:39 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


...

... *clap*

*clap*

*clap* *clap*

*clapclapclapclapwhistleclapclap*
 
2012-10-05 10:45:46 AM  
Big Bird is a smokescreen. This is the reason Romney wants to shutter PBS.

cdn.necolebitchie.com
 
2012-10-05 10:45:53 AM  
That 445 mil is only 12 percent of PBS's funding, so the whole thing is a non-issue. Bad move, Mitt. No NCMO for you!
 
2012-10-05 10:46:18 AM  
He'd be doing fine if he hadn't used Mr. Snuffleupagus as his money manager.
 
2012-10-05 10:48:43 AM  
Educational TV is cut, billions in oil subsidies, bloated military spending, and tax cuts for the rich are okay.

GOP priorities folks. Now be a good little serf and go die for their profits.
 
2012-10-05 10:48:44 AM  

indylaw: spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.

...

... *clap*

*clap*

*clap* *clap*

*clapclapclapclapwhistleclapclap*


Bottom line.
 
2012-10-05 10:50:15 AM  

Bf+: Mitt Romney threatened to fire the moderator. That happened.
My head asplode.


The Onion called it (in advance even).
 
2012-10-05 10:50:21 AM  

Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us


Subsidy != propaganda

I mean, sure, it could go in that direction, but last I heard there's nobody at the NEA telling PBS what to put on its programs.
 
2012-10-05 10:51:02 AM  
www.bertisevil.tv
Terrorist!
 
2012-10-05 10:51:30 AM  
By the way, I think we can say to Big Bird that he didn't build that.
 
2012-10-05 10:53:54 AM  

Barnstormer: That 445 mil is only 12 percent of PBS's funding, so the whole thing is a non-issue. Bad move, Mitt. No NCMO for you!


1) That seems high (the 445 mil)
2) PBS isn't watched by poor people. It's watched by well to do middle class people.
3) Everything must come in at least threes.
 
2012-10-05 10:54:05 AM  
"[Romney] will get rid of regulations on Wall Street, but he's going to crack down on 'Sesame Street,'?!? " - GREAT Zinger Prez - where was this stuff during the debate?!
 
2012-10-05 10:54:10 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


utter brilliance
 
2012-10-05 10:54:37 AM  
priapic_abandon is the first farker to get on my favorites list. Well played, funnyman!
 
2012-10-05 10:56:31 AM  
Damn. I thought we were talking about Jason David Frank up until the concert tour part.
 
2012-10-05 10:58:51 AM  
Il Douchey: "Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us"

So how do you feel about the US military getting the legal go-ahead to fund and produce propaganda aimed at U.S. Citizens?
If the money and programming decisions are coming from the military, instead of a civilian bureaucrat, does that change things?
If the mission is "learn to spot a terrist" and "pot smokers fund terrists" is that acceptable in a way that "learn to count" isn't?
 
2012-10-05 11:00:18 AM  
If PBS went away tomorrow, Disney or Nickelodeon would snap up Sesame Street in a heartbeat.

But the kids that most need access to this show wouldn't have it any more.
 
2012-10-05 11:00:41 AM  
Do you think Romney chose big bird to go after because he's kind of a relatively unpopular muppet? I mean, did they discuss that topic in a prep meeting and decide to go with big bird?

My kid used to reject the big bird diapers, always preferring an Elmo, Ernie, or Grover. From a box of 40 diapers you'd end up with 7 big birds. I tend to agree actually, big bird's annoying as shiat.
 
2012-10-05 11:00:43 AM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-05 11:01:46 AM  

indylaw: Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us

I remember this one time when Janet Reno marched into my house and changed the channel and gave me a menacing look, saying "You WILL watch Sesame Street."

God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.


Like, say, banks and pharmaceutical companies?
 
2012-10-05 11:02:27 AM  

itsfullofstars: If PBS went away tomorrow, Disney or Nickelodeon would snap up Sesame Street in a heartbeat.

But the kids that most need access to this show wouldn't have it any more.


IMO, sesame street's format change a couple years ago turned it into garbage.
 
2012-10-05 11:02:43 AM  
Sometimes the truth hurts real bad, but sooner or later everyone has to face it. Mitt Romney said some things that some people don't want to hear. Some people called him a liar, some call him a straight up asshole. But when all was said and done, he isn't lying about the financial state of this country, or what needs to be done to save it from collapsing beyond repair. He talked about some of the things that he would reduce spending on, or defund all together. Obamacare and PBS seem to be the 2 biggies that riled people up the most. Well guess what: in case some of you haven't noticed...this country is BANKRUPT. Broke. We have no money. The policies of the last 20+ years have put us on the verge of financial meltdown, which is a matter of national security. Your beloved politicians, in their repeated attempts to have government be everything for everybody (at YOUR expense) as well as basically buying votes from the people they are catering to (at YOUR expense as well) have pushed the national debt up to over $16 Trillion dollars. That's $16,000,000,000,000. A debt that will be still be paid for by your grandchilden.

At this point the only things that should be spared from trimming or the whole chopping block are mission essential programs and programs that recipients have paid into to recieve. Mission essential = programs designed to keep us safe, secure and functioning- not doing everything for everybody. Now I like PBS as much as the next guy. Austin City Limits is a great show, as is Under The Radar Michigan. I think every kid that has grown up in this country has learned something from Sesame Street. But PBS raises money from telethons, and PBS is not mission essential to keeping this country afloat and safe. If they need more money, maybe they should start getting sponsors., People from the Left always say that the military budget needs to be cut first. But look at what is going on in the Middle East right now. Most of the "people" who inhabit that region would love to see every person in this country DEAD. That includes YOU. And you know what keeps them from coming over here and killing us? That's right, the greatest military in the world. You wouldn't buy cheap locks for your front door to your house. In this troubled world, only an idiot would think that we need to reduce funding to our armed forces. I don't know about any of you, but I love my family, my friends and my country too much to let those farking animals come over here and obliterate all of us because of a weaker military.

So I guess we all have to ask ourselves what is the smart thing to do here. If you lost your job, or had to take a pay cut to keep your job, and your expenses were greater than your income, what would you do? You would keep the heat on, as well as the lights. Cable TV would probably go, or dropped down to basic. You would cut out the things that you don't absolutely need to keep yourself afloat. Well, like it or not, that's what the government needs to do, before it's too late. Non mission essential programs need to be trimmed or eliminated, like it or not. Tax increases on the "rich" will not even come close to solving the problem. Taxing them at 100% would not make a dent. That's a pipe dream that was invented to drum up votes.
 
2012-10-05 11:03:21 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


That whole "alternate Earth" crap from last season was pretty hackneyed, too. Plus, Keith Richards is Oscar the Grouch's dad? That seemed forced.

/Rutger Hauer was pretty good as the Cyborg rapist, but you could tell that his mechanical weiner was pretty impractical.
 
2012-10-05 11:03:32 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: My kid used to reject the big bird diapers, always preferring an Elmo, Ernie, or Grover. From a box of 40 diapers you'd end up with 7 big birds. I tend to agree actually, big bird's annoying as shiat.


Maybe your kid liked big bird so much he didn't want to take a literal shiat on him... you ever entertain that possibility?
 
2012-10-05 11:05:39 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


windsurfatlanta.org
 
2012-10-05 11:11:08 AM  

Headso: Debeo Summa Credo: My kid used to reject the big bird diapers, always preferring an Elmo, Ernie, or Grover. From a box of 40 diapers you'd end up with 7 big birds. I tend to agree actually, big bird's annoying as shiat.

Maybe your kid liked big bird so much he didn't want to take a literal shiat on him... you ever entertain that possibility?


Mind blown.....
 
2012-10-05 11:13:03 AM  

Bf+: Mitt Romney threatened to fire the moderator. That happened.
My head asplode.


Jim: Mr President you will now have the rest of the time to speak. Mr Romney, you will remain quiet and look derpy.
 
2012-10-05 11:14:29 AM  

smadge1: Plucking the Big Bird ain't gonna save the Big Bucks.


Quite true. If cuts are to be useful, they will be things that will hurt. So what shall we cut? I'll start:

1) Let the bush tax cuts expire
2) Let the payroll tax holiday expire
3) Rase the social security tax ceiling from 100K to 150K
5) 3% dercrease in defense spending.
 
2012-10-05 11:14:55 AM  

rkallister: That's like me saying I'm going to lose weight by trimming my nails.

Best analogy EVER for this.
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I don't think that fact checks though. 175 lb male, 1/100 of 1% would be 7.9 grams. Converted to ml for the density of a human body and you get (at least for me) the last 2 sections of my pinky finger.

/Donates to local PBS station, donate be the wrong word. Attempts to bribe PBS to air more Bob Ross would be more accurate.
 
2012-10-05 11:17:35 AM  

Antimatter: Educational TV is cut, billions in oil subsidies, bloated military spending, and tax cuts for the rich are okay.

GOP priorities folks. Now be a good little serf and go die for their profits.


What do you pay for a gallon of gas? The Dems have kept the war going even though the Repubs started it. It is for the continued hegemony of the US. Don't act like your team is any more noble when it comes to this.
 
2012-10-05 11:18:18 AM  

CujoQuarrel: Barnstormer: That 445 mil is only 12 percent of PBS's funding, so the whole thing is a non-issue. Bad move, Mitt. No NCMO for you!


2) PBS isn't watched by poor people. It's watched by well to do middle class people.


Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.
 
2012-10-05 11:20:11 AM  

Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions


Education is a matter of national security. Being unable to compete in math and science in particular makes us unable to compete technologically and therefore vulnerable as a nation. Early Childhood education is a critical factor in long-term academic sucess, Seasame Street is a cheap, efficient way to bridge the gap between haves and have nots when it comes to ECE.

Ergo Big Bird keeps us safe and our nation strong. Throw the PBS susbsidy into the defense budget where it will disappear like the drop in the bucket it is
 
2012-10-05 11:20:39 AM  

MindStalker: Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions

Its not "art" its education and news. In fact at this point as the programming is self supported its more of a broadcasting subsidy much like your telephone tax that goes to pay for rural and poor telephone service. Though I'd guess you are against those as well.


This. Education was considered of vital importance to the country after the Civil War as a way of preventing another one happening by having an educated population. PBS came out of this as a way to provide information and education to everyone in the country. It also the reason we have community colleges and other services to help people learn and why we insist all children go to school.

You have a combined approach and Sesame Street has provided a learning environment for decades and generations of children. I would argue that the education and information provided by PBS is an important part of the national defense of the country and would move the budget from the Pentagon's surplus to cover it.
 
2012-10-05 11:21:27 AM  

Nightsweat: Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.


in a non ironic, no BS way, I would be curious to see how that breaks down. I have no idea how you could make that determination.
 
2012-10-05 11:22:01 AM  
Since when is education something that we do not need? The show has been proven to help literacy rates. It helps children relate to other kids. The Spanish they speak sometimes helps develop kid's brains. How on earth in anybody's mind could this possibly ever be something that is not needed?

Conservatives are paranoid about the government and so they want their guns to fight them off, but are totally blind to the government cutting education, health care, and expanding the military that many people will have no option now but to join if they need health care and are not that educated. The government doesn't have to take your guns to get you, you're jumping at them to take you.

Education is never, ever a waste of money. And that money is not even a dent in our budget. If it was a huge drain and didn't give us anything back I could understand it. But it's not. Attacking the children of our nation could never be a good idea.

He said he's for education, then does this. That should be a hint of what's to come. The republicans are not going to do much to help with education. If people were educated they would never vote republican these days and the people pulling the puppet strings know it.
 
2012-10-05 11:23:14 AM  
The stupid farking burns when people in these stupid threads complain that PBS makes plenty of money. Jim Henson studios makes a bunch of money of Sesame Street licensing. PBS does not.
 
2012-10-05 11:24:20 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


Still not as bad as that whole season they spent worrying about the plight of the stevadores and the docker workers union though
 
2012-10-05 11:29:16 AM  
Sesame Street makes WAY more from merchandising than they get "free money" PBS grants. PBS could go away tomorrow and Sesame Street would still exist on the Disney Channel, or something. Big Bird is not in danger of becoming homeless.
 
2012-10-05 11:29:54 AM  
This is a tough issue. On the one hand, as Il Douchey points out, subsidy and censorship are two sides of the same government control, and as such are a legitimate concern.

On the other, mass market media has become so entirely, thoroughly pimp-slapped by the lowest common denominator of shiatty advertising that without exception the major outlets have proved they're nothing but whores who have surrendered any notion of professional or social responsibility. Leading this charge has been childrens' programming, which stands as a shining example of how the market doesn't provide what's good for society, it provides what's good for the seller. Without PBS, current market examples show us that all childrens' programming will become the current stable of predatory advertising schlock. This, I think, suggests a need for a non-advertising based programming model, which right now means PBS or something like it.
 
2012-10-05 11:31:16 AM  

indylaw: God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.


Said more succinctly than I.
 
2012-10-05 11:32:16 AM  

fireclown: Nightsweat: Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.

in a non ironic, no BS way, I would be curious to see how that breaks down. I have no idea how you could make that determination.


Doink
Household income
$20K-39K - 21.4%
$40K-59K - 16,5%
$60K+ - 41%
 
2012-10-05 11:32:45 AM  

EyeballKid: And, once PBS is de-funded, the deficit will be no more, right?


Oh. But, it will be heavily affected by those cuts, right?

Oh. This is nothing more than political vendettas mixed in with some red meat to stir up the mouth-breathers, isn't it?


If PBS does rely on the federal money so much than why are there 5 minutes of commercials before and after autoweek? Today, there is no need for free children's programming. All of the programs would just move on or everyone who wants it can just pay up.
 
2012-10-05 11:35:19 AM  

Priapetic: indylaw: God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Said more succinctly than I.


But they still get corporate sponsors. Its no different. The government should not be in the business of television programming or radio. Sure its a drop in the bucket but with enough drops you have a bucket of water.
 
2012-10-05 11:35:53 AM  

TheRedMonkey: If PBS does rely on the federal money so much than why are there 5 minutes of commercials before and after autoweek? Today, there is no need for free children's programming. All of the programs would just move on or everyone who wants it can just pay up.


Yes, for if the poor were able to be educated, how would the next crop of GOP voters come about?
 
2012-10-05 11:39:43 AM  

TheRedMonkey: Priapetic: indylaw: God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Said more succinctly than I.

But they still get corporate sponsors. Its no different. The government should not be in the business of television programming or radio. Sure its a drop in the bucket but with enough drops you have a bucket of water.


Incorrect. It's very different,both in principle and in practice. In principle because unlike most outlets that sponsorship is not the sole source of revenue. In practice because they don't produce they same horrific piles of shiat the networks produce.
 
2012-10-05 11:40:40 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


i.imgur.com

♫ Why are there so many libs who hate freedom?
Those fools on the leftist side?
Barry's a commie, and prob'ly a mooslim,
And he's got dark secrets to hide!

So we've been told and I choose to believe it,
I know we're right, wait and see!
Someday we'll find it, the Freeper connection
The birthers, the derpers and me! ♫
 

/yeah, I stole and reposted it from that other Muppet thread
 
2012-10-05 11:48:05 AM  
Big Bird is a cocky sob. Someone had to take him down a notch.
 
2012-10-05 11:55:44 AM  

Lt_Ryan: rkallister: That's like me saying I'm going to lose weight by trimming my nails.

Best analogy EVER for this.
]

I don't think that fact checks though. 175 lb male, 1/100 of 1% would be 7.9 grams. Converted to ml for the density of a human body and you get (at least for me) the last 2 sections of my pinky finger.

/Donates to local PBS station, donate be the wrong word. Attempts to bribe PBS to air more Bob Ross would be more accurate.


Okay, fingernails, earwax, crotch hair AND nose hair... that's bound to add up to 7.9 gm.

NOW are you happy???
 
2012-10-05 11:56:14 AM  
I love threads like this. They lure out the stupid farktards so I can give my ignore button some exercise
 
2012-10-05 11:56:33 AM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline...



Welcome to my favorites list.

/*wipes single tear from eye*
 
2012-10-05 11:58:08 AM  
Well, why wouldn't they take PBS off the air? PBS insist on quality programs that educate people. Why would anyone watch PBS when Honey Boo Boo, Hoarders, Swamp Men, Kardashians and other mind numbing stuff is out there.
You can't dumb down the population quickly if the sheeple are viewing intelligent television.
 
2012-10-05 12:02:42 PM  

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


10/10 Terse, finely crafted, turgid with dry bitterness... THIS, my friends, his how you troll!
 
2012-10-05 12:04:16 PM  
I hereby fulfill the role of sanctimonious jerk by stating:

All of you people praising the quality of PBS programming and bemoaning a potential funding cut had better cough up a few dollars to support your local station(s).

If public funding dries up, do you think the Koch brothers are going to start funding NOVA, or something?

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
 
2012-10-05 12:06:12 PM  

Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions


You are, literally, saying that giving an artist a grant is exactly as bad as taking all of that artist's works and burning them.

Pardon me if those two situations don't seem to be equivalent.
 
2012-10-05 12:09:12 PM  

fireclown: Nightsweat: Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.

in a non ironic, no BS way, I would be curious to see how that breaks down. I have no idea how you could make that determination.


Influence of Sesame Street

"A 1996 survey found that 95% of all American preschoolers have watched the show by the time they were three years old"

"a 1993 survey conducted by the US Department of Education, out of the show's 6.6 million viewers, 2.4 million kindergartners regularly watched it. 77% of preschoolers watched it once a week, and 86% of kindergartners, first-, and second-grade students had watched it once a week before starting school. The show reached most young children in almost all demographic groups, most significantly economically disadvantaged children; 88% of children from low-income families and 90% of both African-American and Latino children watched the show before entering kindergarten. Over 80% of children from all minority language groups watched it before starting school. Children from the poorest communities were most likely to be regular viewers, as were younger children."
 
2012-10-05 12:10:25 PM  

CLester772: "[Romney] will get rid of regulations on Wall Street, but he's going to crack down on 'Sesame Street,'?!? " - GREAT Zinger Prez - where was this stuff during the debate?!


"The jerk store called. They ran out of you."

You always think of the good lines after the fact. *siiigh*
 
2012-10-05 12:18:27 PM  

GORDON: Sesame Street makes WAY more from merchandising than they get "free money" PBS grants. PBS could go away tomorrow and Sesame Street would still exist on the Disney Channel, or something. Big Bird is not in danger of becoming homeless.


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2012-10-05 12:57:51 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: GORDON: Sesame Street makes WAY more from merchandising than they get "free money" PBS grants. PBS could go away tomorrow and Sesame Street would still exist on the Disney Channel, or something. Big Bird is not in danger of becoming homeless.

[img2-2.timeinc.net image 600x450]


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FTFY
 
2012-10-05 01:18:21 PM  

Hoopy Frood: indylaw: Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us

I remember this one time when Janet Reno marched into my house and changed the channel and gave me a menacing look, saying "You WILL watch Sesame Street."

God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Like, say, banks and pharmaceutical companies?


I think maybe you missed the bolded word.
 
2012-10-05 01:59:14 PM  

patrick767: The stupid farking burns when people in these stupid threads complain that PBS makes plenty of money. Jim Henson studios makes a bunch of money of Sesame Street licensing. PBS does not.


Actually the licensing is not owned by Jim Henson Studios but by Sesame Workshop. That being said, you are correct that PBS does not make money on the licensing.
 
2012-10-05 02:01:30 PM  
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2012-10-05 02:11:08 PM  

HortusMatris: spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline...


Welcome to my favorites list.

/*wipes single tear from eye*


Why do you even have to favorite spentmiles? He's a classic, like pocket ninja, just in a different way.
 
2012-10-05 02:34:24 PM  
While we're on the subject of Sesame Street, back in the 70s they did a lot of bi-lingual stuff - mostly running the same segment in English and then in Spanish. The idea was that brown kids would pick up some English and the white kids would pick up some Spanish. All good. Does anyone know if there is anywhere that I could pick up a big honkin DVD set of english/spanish Sesame St stuff? My spanish could use some help.
 
2012-10-05 03:35:44 PM  
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2012-10-05 03:47:56 PM  

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u sir are WEED
 
2012-10-05 04:12:03 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Nightsweat: [s3.amazonaws.com image 550x440]

u sir are WEED


Big Bud?
 
2012-10-05 10:30:55 PM  

kriegsgeist: Hoopy Frood: indylaw: Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us

I remember this one time when Janet Reno marched into my house and changed the channel and gave me a menacing look, saying "You WILL watch Sesame Street."

God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Like, say, banks and pharmaceutical companies?

I think maybe you missed the bolded word.


In for a penny, in for a pound. Either your programming is influenced by corporate interests or it isn't. It's like being a little bit pregnant.
 
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