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(Chicago Sun-Times)   He's the star of a long-running television show. He has successful clothing lines, a large number of lucrative marketing deals, and is part of sold-out concert tours when not filming. Face it folks: Big Bird is part of the 1%   (suntimes.com) divider line 90
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2012-10-05 11:14:29 AM

smadge1: Plucking the Big Bird ain't gonna save the Big Bucks.


Quite true. If cuts are to be useful, they will be things that will hurt. So what shall we cut? I'll start:

1) Let the bush tax cuts expire
2) Let the payroll tax holiday expire
3) Rase the social security tax ceiling from 100K to 150K
5) 3% dercrease in defense spending.
 
2012-10-05 11:14:55 AM

rkallister: That's like me saying I'm going to lose weight by trimming my nails.

Best analogy EVER for this.
]


I don't think that fact checks though. 175 lb male, 1/100 of 1% would be 7.9 grams. Converted to ml for the density of a human body and you get (at least for me) the last 2 sections of my pinky finger.

/Donates to local PBS station, donate be the wrong word. Attempts to bribe PBS to air more Bob Ross would be more accurate.
 
2012-10-05 11:17:35 AM

Antimatter: Educational TV is cut, billions in oil subsidies, bloated military spending, and tax cuts for the rich are okay.

GOP priorities folks. Now be a good little serf and go die for their profits.


What do you pay for a gallon of gas? The Dems have kept the war going even though the Repubs started it. It is for the continued hegemony of the US. Don't act like your team is any more noble when it comes to this.
 
2012-10-05 11:18:18 AM

CujoQuarrel: Barnstormer: That 445 mil is only 12 percent of PBS's funding, so the whole thing is a non-issue. Bad move, Mitt. No NCMO for you!


2) PBS isn't watched by poor people. It's watched by well to do middle class people.


Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.
 
2012-10-05 11:20:11 AM

Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions


Education is a matter of national security. Being unable to compete in math and science in particular makes us unable to compete technologically and therefore vulnerable as a nation. Early Childhood education is a critical factor in long-term academic sucess, Seasame Street is a cheap, efficient way to bridge the gap between haves and have nots when it comes to ECE.

Ergo Big Bird keeps us safe and our nation strong. Throw the PBS susbsidy into the defense budget where it will disappear like the drop in the bucket it is
 
2012-10-05 11:20:39 AM

MindStalker: Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions

Its not "art" its education and news. In fact at this point as the programming is self supported its more of a broadcasting subsidy much like your telephone tax that goes to pay for rural and poor telephone service. Though I'd guess you are against those as well.


This. Education was considered of vital importance to the country after the Civil War as a way of preventing another one happening by having an educated population. PBS came out of this as a way to provide information and education to everyone in the country. It also the reason we have community colleges and other services to help people learn and why we insist all children go to school.

You have a combined approach and Sesame Street has provided a learning environment for decades and generations of children. I would argue that the education and information provided by PBS is an important part of the national defense of the country and would move the budget from the Pentagon's surplus to cover it.
 
2012-10-05 11:21:27 AM

Nightsweat: Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.


in a non ironic, no BS way, I would be curious to see how that breaks down. I have no idea how you could make that determination.
 
2012-10-05 11:22:01 AM
Since when is education something that we do not need? The show has been proven to help literacy rates. It helps children relate to other kids. The Spanish they speak sometimes helps develop kid's brains. How on earth in anybody's mind could this possibly ever be something that is not needed?

Conservatives are paranoid about the government and so they want their guns to fight them off, but are totally blind to the government cutting education, health care, and expanding the military that many people will have no option now but to join if they need health care and are not that educated. The government doesn't have to take your guns to get you, you're jumping at them to take you.

Education is never, ever a waste of money. And that money is not even a dent in our budget. If it was a huge drain and didn't give us anything back I could understand it. But it's not. Attacking the children of our nation could never be a good idea.

He said he's for education, then does this. That should be a hint of what's to come. The republicans are not going to do much to help with education. If people were educated they would never vote republican these days and the people pulling the puppet strings know it.
 
2012-10-05 11:23:14 AM
The stupid farking burns when people in these stupid threads complain that PBS makes plenty of money. Jim Henson studios makes a bunch of money of Sesame Street licensing. PBS does not.
 
2012-10-05 11:24:20 AM

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


Still not as bad as that whole season they spent worrying about the plight of the stevadores and the docker workers union though
 
2012-10-05 11:29:16 AM
Sesame Street makes WAY more from merchandising than they get "free money" PBS grants. PBS could go away tomorrow and Sesame Street would still exist on the Disney Channel, or something. Big Bird is not in danger of becoming homeless.
 
2012-10-05 11:29:54 AM
This is a tough issue. On the one hand, as Il Douchey points out, subsidy and censorship are two sides of the same government control, and as such are a legitimate concern.

On the other, mass market media has become so entirely, thoroughly pimp-slapped by the lowest common denominator of shiatty advertising that without exception the major outlets have proved they're nothing but whores who have surrendered any notion of professional or social responsibility. Leading this charge has been childrens' programming, which stands as a shining example of how the market doesn't provide what's good for society, it provides what's good for the seller. Without PBS, current market examples show us that all childrens' programming will become the current stable of predatory advertising schlock. This, I think, suggests a need for a non-advertising based programming model, which right now means PBS or something like it.
 
2012-10-05 11:31:16 AM

indylaw: God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.


Said more succinctly than I.
 
2012-10-05 11:32:16 AM

fireclown: Nightsweat: Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.

in a non ironic, no BS way, I would be curious to see how that breaks down. I have no idea how you could make that determination.


Doink
Household income
$20K-39K - 21.4%
$40K-59K - 16,5%
$60K+ - 41%
 
2012-10-05 11:32:45 AM

EyeballKid: And, once PBS is de-funded, the deficit will be no more, right?


Oh. But, it will be heavily affected by those cuts, right?

Oh. This is nothing more than political vendettas mixed in with some red meat to stir up the mouth-breathers, isn't it?


If PBS does rely on the federal money so much than why are there 5 minutes of commercials before and after autoweek? Today, there is no need for free children's programming. All of the programs would just move on or everyone who wants it can just pay up.
 
2012-10-05 11:35:19 AM

Priapetic: indylaw: God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Said more succinctly than I.


But they still get corporate sponsors. Its no different. The government should not be in the business of television programming or radio. Sure its a drop in the bucket but with enough drops you have a bucket of water.
 
2012-10-05 11:35:53 AM

TheRedMonkey: If PBS does rely on the federal money so much than why are there 5 minutes of commercials before and after autoweek? Today, there is no need for free children's programming. All of the programs would just move on or everyone who wants it can just pay up.


Yes, for if the poor were able to be educated, how would the next crop of GOP voters come about?
 
2012-10-05 11:39:43 AM

TheRedMonkey: Priapetic: indylaw: God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Said more succinctly than I.

But they still get corporate sponsors. Its no different. The government should not be in the business of television programming or radio. Sure its a drop in the bucket but with enough drops you have a bucket of water.


Incorrect. It's very different,both in principle and in practice. In principle because unlike most outlets that sponsorship is not the sole source of revenue. In practice because they don't produce they same horrific piles of shiat the networks produce.
 
2012-10-05 11:40:40 AM

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


i.imgur.com

♫ Why are there so many libs who hate freedom?
Those fools on the leftist side?
Barry's a commie, and prob'ly a mooslim,
And he's got dark secrets to hide!

So we've been told and I choose to believe it,
I know we're right, wait and see!
Someday we'll find it, the Freeper connection
The birthers, the derpers and me! ♫
 

/yeah, I stole and reposted it from that other Muppet thread
 
2012-10-05 11:48:05 AM
Big Bird is a cocky sob. Someone had to take him down a notch.
 
2012-10-05 11:55:44 AM

Lt_Ryan: rkallister: That's like me saying I'm going to lose weight by trimming my nails.

Best analogy EVER for this.
]

I don't think that fact checks though. 175 lb male, 1/100 of 1% would be 7.9 grams. Converted to ml for the density of a human body and you get (at least for me) the last 2 sections of my pinky finger.

/Donates to local PBS station, donate be the wrong word. Attempts to bribe PBS to air more Bob Ross would be more accurate.


Okay, fingernails, earwax, crotch hair AND nose hair... that's bound to add up to 7.9 gm.

NOW are you happy???
 
2012-10-05 11:56:14 AM
I love threads like this. They lure out the stupid farktards so I can give my ignore button some exercise
 
2012-10-05 11:56:33 AM

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline...



Welcome to my favorites list.

/*wipes single tear from eye*
 
2012-10-05 11:58:08 AM
Well, why wouldn't they take PBS off the air? PBS insist on quality programs that educate people. Why would anyone watch PBS when Honey Boo Boo, Hoarders, Swamp Men, Kardashians and other mind numbing stuff is out there.
You can't dumb down the population quickly if the sheeple are viewing intelligent television.
 
2012-10-05 12:02:42 PM

spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline. I remember watching the story launch episode when the Count walked into B&E's room to find Bert with four inches of orange felt shoved up Ernie's ass. I at least expected them to treat the subject with a little bit of seriousness. Instead they tried to cram graphic muppet butt sex down our throats. Do they really expect me to believe that according to the Count Bert lasted ten whole pumps? If it really was his first time, I'm guess he would've blasted all over Ernie's back before he even managed to penetrate with that spit soaked thing.

Then the whole Hepatitis-C storyline never got truly resolved. At the end of that season, we see Ernie going in for a total stuffing replacement. First off, Hep-C hides in the sebaceous fabric which can't just be cleaned out with a heavy spin cycle and extra rinse. They disrespected our toddlers intelligence with that far-fetched load of crap. Ernie isn't a pillow case and he's not going to get a new liver at some back alley Build-A-Bear. They should've let him die.

I just walked out of the room when they started the next season with the Bert fecalphilia and Ernie's sex change. Jim Henson would've jumped out of a window had he seen that crocheted vagina they hung off of Ernie like a groin purse. If you're going for the ridiculous story-line at least higher a decent CGI guy to make the penetration close-ups look more realistic than Grandma putting a knitted pickle in her terrycloth pocketbook. My kid may have bought it, but he's going to laugh at himself when he sees it again in a few years.

Bottom line - after so many seasons, there isn't anything left for Sesame Street to cover. We've seen all the inter-racial dating, vegetarian, homosexual, hug-slop that the liberal agenda has to offer. Let it go people.


10/10 Terse, finely crafted, turgid with dry bitterness... THIS, my friends, his how you troll!
 
2012-10-05 12:04:16 PM
I hereby fulfill the role of sanctimonious jerk by stating:

All of you people praising the quality of PBS programming and bemoaning a potential funding cut had better cough up a few dollars to support your local station(s).

If public funding dries up, do you think the Koch brothers are going to start funding NOVA, or something?

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
 
2012-10-05 12:06:12 PM

Il Douchey: It's not the amount of the federal subsidy that's bad, it's the principle

When it comes to art, federal censorship and federal subsidies are equally wrong in opposite directions


You are, literally, saying that giving an artist a grant is exactly as bad as taking all of that artist's works and burning them.

Pardon me if those two situations don't seem to be equivalent.
 
2012-10-05 12:09:12 PM

fireclown: Nightsweat: Nonsense. PBS Kids programming is watched by kids of all income levels.

in a non ironic, no BS way, I would be curious to see how that breaks down. I have no idea how you could make that determination.


Influence of Sesame Street

"A 1996 survey found that 95% of all American preschoolers have watched the show by the time they were three years old"

"a 1993 survey conducted by the US Department of Education, out of the show's 6.6 million viewers, 2.4 million kindergartners regularly watched it. 77% of preschoolers watched it once a week, and 86% of kindergartners, first-, and second-grade students had watched it once a week before starting school. The show reached most young children in almost all demographic groups, most significantly economically disadvantaged children; 88% of children from low-income families and 90% of both African-American and Latino children watched the show before entering kindergarten. Over 80% of children from all minority language groups watched it before starting school. Children from the poorest communities were most likely to be regular viewers, as were younger children."
 
2012-10-05 12:10:25 PM

CLester772: "[Romney] will get rid of regulations on Wall Street, but he's going to crack down on 'Sesame Street,'?!? " - GREAT Zinger Prez - where was this stuff during the debate?!


"The jerk store called. They ran out of you."

You always think of the good lines after the fact. *siiigh*
 
2012-10-05 12:18:27 PM

GORDON: Sesame Street makes WAY more from merchandising than they get "free money" PBS grants. PBS could go away tomorrow and Sesame Street would still exist on the Disney Channel, or something. Big Bird is not in danger of becoming homeless.


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2012-10-05 12:57:51 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: GORDON: Sesame Street makes WAY more from merchandising than they get "free money" PBS grants. PBS could go away tomorrow and Sesame Street would still exist on the Disney Channel, or something. Big Bird is not in danger of becoming homeless.

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FTFY
 
2012-10-05 01:18:21 PM

Hoopy Frood: indylaw: Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us

I remember this one time when Janet Reno marched into my house and changed the channel and gave me a menacing look, saying "You WILL watch Sesame Street."

God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Like, say, banks and pharmaceutical companies?


I think maybe you missed the bolded word.
 
2012-10-05 01:59:14 PM

patrick767: The stupid farking burns when people in these stupid threads complain that PBS makes plenty of money. Jim Henson studios makes a bunch of money of Sesame Street licensing. PBS does not.


Actually the licensing is not owned by Jim Henson Studios but by Sesame Workshop. That being said, you are correct that PBS does not make money on the licensing.
 
2012-10-05 02:01:30 PM
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2012-10-05 02:11:08 PM

HortusMatris: spentmiles: Sesame Street jumped the shark when they rolled out that whole "Bert and Ernie are homosexuals" storyline...


Welcome to my favorites list.

/*wipes single tear from eye*


Why do you even have to favorite spentmiles? He's a classic, like pocket ninja, just in a different way.
 
2012-10-05 02:34:24 PM
While we're on the subject of Sesame Street, back in the 70s they did a lot of bi-lingual stuff - mostly running the same segment in English and then in Spanish. The idea was that brown kids would pick up some English and the white kids would pick up some Spanish. All good. Does anyone know if there is anywhere that I could pick up a big honkin DVD set of english/spanish Sesame St stuff? My spanish could use some help.
 
2012-10-05 03:35:44 PM
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2012-10-05 03:47:56 PM

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u sir are WEED
 
2012-10-05 04:12:03 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: Nightsweat: [s3.amazonaws.com image 550x440]

u sir are WEED


Big Bud?
 
2012-10-05 10:30:55 PM

kriegsgeist: Hoopy Frood: indylaw: Il Douchey: indylaw: Why? I'm sure that seems obvious to you.

Because the federal gov't has no business influencing which puppets you and I choose to entertain us

I remember this one time when Janet Reno marched into my house and changed the channel and gave me a menacing look, saying "You WILL watch Sesame Street."

God forbid we have some educational programming and news that doesn't finance itself solely by sucking corporate cock.

Like, say, banks and pharmaceutical companies?

I think maybe you missed the bolded word.


In for a penny, in for a pound. Either your programming is influenced by corporate interests or it isn't. It's like being a little bit pregnant.
 
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