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(Gawker)   AMC's continuing temper tantrum: The network that brought you Mad Men and Breaking Bad has now become "the network that's not available on Dish"   (gawker.com) divider line 45
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2012-10-05 08:42:34 AM
What's Dish?
 
2012-10-05 08:54:23 AM
It IS kind of annoying. I mean, they're telling the people who don't have Dish that they're not available on Dish.
 
2012-10-05 08:59:55 AM
Not to mention the fact that the constant namechecking of Dish on AMC is only reaching the audience that already gets AMC.

Retention of existing customers is a thing, too.
 
2012-10-05 09:26:40 AM

kronicfeld: Not to mention the fact that the constant namechecking of Dish on AMC is only reaching the audience that already gets AMC.


Nope - they're running it on other networks. I know, because I don't have AMC anymore.

Retention of existing customers is a thing, too.

Unfortunately AMC was not enough to make me want to continue paying for cable, not even when combined with FX and HBO - the only 3 channels I actually feel like I'm missing anything on.

/So, how's Sons of Anarchy this season?
 
2012-10-05 09:56:32 AM
Again? Didn't this happen earlier this year?
 
2012-10-05 09:57:11 AM
Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?
 
2012-10-05 10:02:19 AM
I blame chrysler
 
2012-10-05 10:13:30 AM

Happy Hours: kronicfeld: Not to mention the fact that the constant namechecking of Dish on AMC is only reaching the audience that already gets AMC.

Nope - they're running it on other networks. I know, because I don't have AMC anymore.

Retention of existing customers is a thing, too.

Unfortunately AMC was not enough to make me want to continue paying for cable, not even when combined with FX and HBO - the only 3 channels I actually feel like I'm missing anything on.

/So, how's Sons of Anarchy this season?


So far it is great. Though I'm sure another farker will tell me why I should hate it.
 
2012-10-05 10:13:31 AM

Happy Hours: kronicfeld: Not to mention the fact that the constant namechecking of Dish on AMC is only reaching the audience that already gets AMC.

Nope - they're running it on other networks. I know, because I don't have AMC anymore.

Retention of existing customers is a thing, too.

Unfortunately AMC was not enough to make me want to continue paying for cable, not even when combined with FX and HBO - the only 3 channels I actually feel like I'm missing anything on.

/So, how's Sons of Anarchy this season?


Pretty good. Last season was sort of meh, but they sucked me back in with some of the big moves made at the tail end of season 4 and the first 3 episodes of this one.

I never thought I'd come to despise the Gemma character.... I've been proven wrong.

All that said, one of the reasons I dropped the TV packages and just went with internet was cost savings. But with them fiddling with a pay as you go model on internet now, it won't be long before it starts balancing out and I have to switch back.
 
2012-10-05 10:16:33 AM

Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?



Don't worry about Carl. He's in the house.
 
2012-10-05 10:18:36 AM
Not a tantrum...smart business. AMC rightfully believes they are one of the more popular cable networks, and are using Dish's own customers against them in an effort to get what they want.

Douchebaggy on an epic scale? Perhaps. But not a tantrum.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:40 AM
I didn't know anyone had Dish. Directv has the football package.
 
2012-10-05 10:27:55 AM
AMC is still available on bit torrent.
 
2012-10-05 10:28:19 AM

Happy Hours: Unfortunately AMC was not enough to make me want to continue paying for cable, not even when combined with FX and HBO - the only 3 channels I actually feel like I'm missing anything on.


We need ala carte pricing. Sadly, the sh*tty fundie channels, shopping networks, and countless diy and inferior Discovery channel knock-offs nobody watches will fight like hell to make sure that never happens.

Yeah, I'd gladly pay more per channel to just have the 10 or so channels I actually want (even if it only saved me, say, $15/month).
 
2012-10-05 10:29:30 AM

sweetlenny: I didn't know anyone had Dish. Directv has the football package.


Also, this. Not sure why anyone goes for Dish.
 
2012-10-05 10:37:08 AM
SOA has been incredibly good this season! Carls just playin' by the river with a walker.
 
2012-10-05 10:53:35 AM

Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?


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2012-10-05 10:55:55 AM
I gave up on AMC when they started adding commercial breaks to their movies, same as "free" TV. Up 'til then they'd been sort of a head-to-head competitor with Turner (though lacking the same "library" of films, of course), but then I guess they figured "our viewers really won't care enough if we start sticking the commercials in there"--and they were evidently right.

If my cable was ala carte, I'd drop 'em in a heartbeat, Mad Men or not.
 
2012-10-05 10:55:57 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Happy Hours: Unfortunately AMC was not enough to make me want to continue paying for cable, not even when combined with FX and HBO - the only 3 channels I actually feel like I'm missing anything on.

We need ala carte pricing. Sadly, the sh*tty fundie channels, shopping networks, and countless diy and inferior Discovery channel knock-offs nobody watches will fight like hell to make sure that never happens.

Yeah, I'd gladly pay more per channel to just have the 10 or so channels I actually want (even if it only saved me, say, $15/month).


A la carte pricing just doesn't seem feasible to me. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be able just to pay for things I want to watch. However I fear that a lot of the programming I enjoy would go out the window in favor of mass produced reality tv and shows that appeal to the lowest common denominator. It would be much harder for networks to take chances and create compelling and unique programs.
 
2012-10-05 11:11:39 AM

Happy Hours: /So, how's Sons of Anarchy this season?


4 episodes in, and in my opinion it's gone: home run, home run, home run, solid double.
 
2012-10-05 11:28:24 AM

Vacation Bible School: Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?

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/lori's such a cnt
//cheered when andrea told her ass off in the kitchen
 
2012-10-05 11:31:40 AM

Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?


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2012-10-05 11:42:02 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?

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2012-10-05 11:54:02 AM

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:
A la carte pricing just doesn't seem feasible to me. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be able just to pay for things I want to watch. However I fear that a lot of the programming I enjoy would go out the window in favor of mass produced reality tv and shows that appeal to the lowest common denominator. It would be much harder for networks to take chances and create compelling and unique programs.


Yeah, this is the point that the a la carte proponents forget. It's easy to say "I'd pay $X for just AMC" once AMC establishes itself as a network with quality programming. But would those people have paid for it six years ago when Mad Men was averaging fewer than a million viewers per episode and Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead weren't even on the radar.

The current model does two important things really well that the a la carte model can't. First, it lowers the barrier to entry for new shows by essentially fronting the costs for pilots and new episodes. Second, it makes it really easy for viewers to sample new shows. I love Mad Men and Breaking Bad, but would I have ever watched those shows live if I had to pay $100-150/year for AMC instead of being able to watch them with no additional marginal cost? Probably not, since I don't watch anything else on the network.
 
2012-10-05 12:16:45 PM
guess I missed the begining
why did dish drop amc?
 
2012-10-05 12:23:32 PM
I am a Dish subscriber. I like Mad Men and The Walking Dead. But, Dish is super cheap, the Hawpah kicks ass and there are multiple distribution channels to get their content.

Also, Dish subscribers see those stupid ads on other channels. Who cares? I pay $51 per month and that includes HBO. DirectTV is nice, but pricey and Comcast sucks.
 
2012-10-05 01:36:13 PM
As said earlier, channel bundling is a way to lower risk. A la carte will lead to a vast wasteland of reality shows and Chuck Lorre. No Breaking Bad, no Justified, no It's Always Sunny, etc.

Also, Sons of Anarchy still hasn't recovered from that terrible, terrible deus ex machina CIA crap. Gemma is dragging the show down, Tara is turning into Gemma, which means she's now dragging the show down, I have no idea why the first kid's mom is still around, Jimmy Smitts is farking awesome, and if they had any balls they would have killed Clay/Opie last year. Opie's death seemed tacked on or something, it was a little too hollow. This was a great character for a few years, and they killed him off to prove the new bad guy was bad? Come on.
 
2012-10-05 01:37:05 PM
AMC is available elsewhere, so no big.

Cable companies don't quite get it - if you want people to pay for your products, sometimes you have to admit the reality of the (black) market and take a lower price per subscriber than you'd otherwise want to.

Maybe even ESPN will one day understand this.

Nah.
 
2012-10-05 01:37:51 PM

NeoCortex42: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?

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Saw this episode last night.

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Now I get it!
 
2012-10-05 05:24:07 PM

Rhames: NeoCortex42: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?

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Saw this episode last night.

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Now I get it!


Otis was a good man. I don't get the Shane worship at all.
 
2012-10-05 05:30:11 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Rhames: NeoCortex42: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Wellon Dowd: Who cares about Dish? WHERE'S CARL?!?

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Saw this episode last night.

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Now I get it!

Otis was a good man. I don't get the Shane worship at all.


Who worships Shane? People watching the show all thought he was an ass, and nobody in the show trusted the guy once Rick showed up.
 
2012-10-05 05:49:19 PM
My local NBC station put up a message yesterday saying they might get dropped by DISH. Most of the dramas I watch are on AMC and the only comedies I watch are on NBC's Thursdays. So yeah, won't be switching to DISH anytime soon.
 
2012-10-05 06:35:10 PM

sweetlenny: Direct


this
 
2012-10-05 09:49:21 PM
CSB: I recently ditched the TV portion of my cable bill and only have internet. Between season passes on iTunes for the eight shows I watch plus a Netflix membership to go along with my existing rabid Blu-ray addiction means I'll save almost $2000 a year and still have more entertainment tan I know what to do with. As soon as we get a fiber provider that isn't AT&T (i.e. shiatty), I'll be able to be rid of Comcast for good.
 
2012-10-06 05:45:42 PM
Have people realized that all their favorite shows are available streaming on line for free, yet? Sometimes an hour or two after they air? It doesn't take much digging.
 
2012-10-06 11:24:32 PM
Dish is also threatening to drop my local NBC station.

"Q: I have heard DISH say that WBIR is demanding a big fee increase, which would lead to higher satellite bills. Is that true? A: No. WBIR has successfully negotiated agreements with all the other providers in our area based on the same basic terms that are being offered to DISH. Those other providers were willing to reach a deal. So far, DISH is not."

Full story
 
2012-10-07 12:24:42 AM
Yay! Content producers putting content distributors out of business! Fewer content distributors mean higher content costs, as content distributors don't want to lose their revenue (as AMC clearly is doing with Dish's refusal to pay them, hence the retaliatory business conduct), which means higher costs for the rest of us.

The fun part, of course, is that content distributors don't understand that they're tightening the noose around their own necks - there's a reason why content distributors are buying up content producers. Eventually, we're going to be stuck watching whatever the three nationwide cable and one satellite content distributors tell us to watch, because they will own most, if not all, of the content producers.

Cheering on AMC is like cheering on a Romney presidency - you're happily marching to the gallows, as it were, while lauding the hangman.
 
2012-10-07 12:28:10 AM

FormlessOne: The fun part, of course, is that content distributors producers don't understand that they're tightening the noose around their own necks


FTFM. Content producers, without distributors to buy their programming, are going to make less money - and, therefore, become easier pickings for the content distributors with fat wallets and Internet cash to blow. AMC laughs now, but later, when AMC Networks becomes the newest Comcast acquisition, well, there you go.
 
2012-10-07 10:12:53 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Dish is also threatening to drop my local NBC station.

"Q: I have heard DISH say that WBIR is demanding a big fee increase, which would lead to higher satellite bills. Is that true? A: No. WBIR has successfully negotiated agreements with all the other providers in our area based on the same basic terms that are being offered to DISH. Those other providers were willing to reach a deal. So far, DISH is not."

Full story


My parents have Dish. They just dropped the local CBS. I've been telling them to get FiOS or XFinity for a while now.
 
2012-10-07 06:49:54 PM

thamike: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Dish is also threatening to drop my local NBC station.

"Q: I have heard DISH say that WBIR is demanding a big fee increase, which would lead to higher satellite bills. Is that true? A: No. WBIR has successfully negotiated agreements with all the other providers in our area based on the same basic terms that are being offered to DISH. Those other providers were willing to reach a deal. So far, DISH is not."

Full story

My parents have Dish. They just dropped the local CBS. I've been telling them to get FiOS or XFinity for a while now.


FiOS, because, hey who doesn't want the bill amount to change monthly?

fark you Verizon
 
2012-10-07 08:28:13 PM

Girion47: thamike: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Dish is also threatening to drop my local NBC station.

"Q: I have heard DISH say that WBIR is demanding a big fee increase, which would lead to higher satellite bills. Is that true? A: No. WBIR has successfully negotiated agreements with all the other providers in our area based on the same basic terms that are being offered to DISH. Those other providers were willing to reach a deal. So far, DISH is not."

Full story

My parents have Dish. They just dropped the local CBS. I've been telling them to get FiOS or XFinity for a while now.

FiOS, because, hey who doesn't want the bill amount to change monthly?

fark you Verizon


I've never had that problem with FiOS or any other Verizon service.
 
2012-10-07 09:04:31 PM

thamike: Girion47: thamike: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Dish is also threatening to drop my local NBC station.

"Q: I have heard DISH say that WBIR is demanding a big fee increase, which would lead to higher satellite bills. Is that true? A: No. WBIR has successfully negotiated agreements with all the other providers in our area based on the same basic terms that are being offered to DISH. Those other providers were willing to reach a deal. So far, DISH is not."

Full story

My parents have Dish. They just dropped the local CBS. I've been telling them to get FiOS or XFinity for a while now.

FiOS, because, hey who doesn't want the bill amount to change monthly?

fark you Verizon

I've never had that problem with FiOS or any other Verizon service.


I signed up for the FiOS TV, Internet, and Verizon wireless triple-play. It was the net, cable with a ton of packages, and 1000 anytime, unlimited nights/weekends and 500 texts for $110 a month. After taxes and such, it was about $117. I was fine with this, agreed to it, and signed up for a 2 year contract. The very first month the bill was 140. "Oh sorry sir, we'll put a recurring credit on your account, since we keyed in wrong" Every month I'd have to call to remind them of that credit which didn't recur, I'd also have to ask about why carryover charges were occuring for the stuff I was supposedly credited, and other such bullshiat that the ghettoqueen-attitude CSR's didn't give a shiat about helping me with.

fark Verizon
 
2012-10-08 05:34:26 AM

Girion47: I signed up for the FiOS TV, Internet, and Verizon wireless triple-play. It was the net, cable with a ton of packages, and 1000 anytime, unlimited nights/weekends and 500 texts for $110 a month. After taxes and such, it was about $117. I was fine with this, agreed to it, and signed up for a 2 year contract. The very first month the bill was 140. "Oh sorry sir, we'll put a recurring credit on your account, since we keyed in wrong" Every month I'd have to call to remind them of that credit which didn't recur, I'd also have to ask about why carryover charges were occuring for the stuff I was supposedly credited, and other such bullshiat that the ghettoqueen-attitude CSR's didn't give a shiat about helping me with.

fark Verizon


They must have a lottery system to pick customers to send to Bizarro Verizon. Not I, nor anyone else I know with Verizon accounts has had this kind of experience with them. Maybe it's a location thing, but I always spoke to someone who didn't live in my state.
 
2012-10-08 07:52:44 AM

thamike: Girion47: I signed up for the FiOS TV, Internet, and Verizon wireless triple-play. It was the net, cable with a ton of packages, and 1000 anytime, unlimited nights/weekends and 500 texts for $110 a month. After taxes and such, it was about $117. I was fine with this, agreed to it, and signed up for a 2 year contract. The very first month the bill was 140. "Oh sorry sir, we'll put a recurring credit on your account, since we keyed in wrong" Every month I'd have to call to remind them of that credit which didn't recur, I'd also have to ask about why carryover charges were occuring for the stuff I was supposedly credited, and other such bullshiat that the ghettoqueen-attitude CSR's didn't give a shiat about helping me with.

fark Verizon

They must have a lottery system to pick customers to send to Bizarro Verizon. Not I, nor anyone else I know with Verizon accounts has had this kind of experience with them. Maybe it's a location thing, but I always spoke to someone who didn't live in my state.


I was in Northern Virginia at the time. Everyone there seems hell bent on screwing you over.
 
2012-10-08 05:52:46 PM

Girion47: I was in Northern Virginia at the time. Everyone there seems hell bent on screwing you over.


That's where I am. Guess you picked an unlucky number.
 
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