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2012-10-05 06:43:04 AM
The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history.
 
2012-10-05 07:15:15 AM
-chuckle-
 
2012-10-05 07:20:19 AM
I loathe IE. I have to use it though because our remote desktop accounting software only works on IE.

Sucks like a Dyson.
 
2012-10-05 07:35:02 AM
That was pretty farking stupid.
Obviously a computer that acts that way has far more wrong with it than just running IE. Stop clicking the links in all those FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW emails you receive, dumb-ass.
 
2012-10-05 07:37:31 AM
Stupid video. Some fool pushing nonsense to drive up pageviews.
 
2012-10-05 07:57:07 AM
I would like an explanation on how something that awful gets a greenlight.

/Not kidding, either.
 
Xai
2012-10-05 07:58:30 AM
you know what is worst? this just makes me want to try ie9...
 
2012-10-05 08:05:01 AM
This is like Comic Sans hate.

I don't get it.

I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.
 
2012-10-05 08:07:42 AM

Sandwyrm: Stupid video. Some fool pushing nonsense to drive up pageviews.


Yeah. And the "watch moar of my stuff and my cat lives" bullshiat. That joke's so old it's got hairs on it.

That was a National Lampoon cover from the mid 1970s wasn't it? Except with a dog.
 
2012-10-05 08:09:59 AM
I prefer Safari on my 8 gig Mac because if I keep more than 10 tabs open for more than 2 days it will grow to consume all my RAM and send me into swap hell.  (yeah, I know, I should throw out my 3 year old iMac and get a new one with 16 gigs of RAM)
 
Xai
2012-10-05 08:13:04 AM
Wierd - on ie9 i can't click 'reply' buttons etc.
 
Xai
2012-10-05 08:13:40 AM

Xai: Wierd - on ie9 i can't click 'reply' buttons etc.


ah there they are
 
2012-10-05 08:22:04 AM
why would you DOWNLOAD IE TO MAC
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

THAT SAFARI CANT DO
 
2012-10-05 08:28:59 AM
IE 5 on a Mac? Really?
 
2012-10-05 09:34:52 AM

Big Ramifications: Sandwyrm: Stupid video. Some fool pushing nonsense to drive up pageviews.

Yeah. And the "watch moar of my stuff and my cat lives" bullshiat. That joke's so old it's got hairs on it.

That was a National Lampoon cover from the mid 1970s wasn't it? Except with a dog.


Yup.
davemark.com
 
2012-10-05 09:38:37 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: why would you DOWNLOAD IE TO MAC
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

THAT SAFARI CANT DO


As someone who has worked in IT for many years, and have had to tell many a Mac user to use something other than Safari so that the web sites they visit will actually work, I find your post amusing.
 
2012-10-05 09:44:01 AM

Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.


Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.
 
2012-10-05 09:50:00 AM

palladiate: Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.

Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.


Do you know how I can get IE, Chrome and Firefox to run on one machine without causing all kinds of problems? I had to disable IE to get Firefox & Chrome to work but when I want to work on the websites now I can't preview it in IE.
 
2012-10-05 09:55:36 AM
They are running IE5 on Mac? And expect it to work?

Reminds me of a friend and hopeless Apple fanboy I spoke with recently. When I asked why he thinks using Windows is so difficult, he told me how on his mac he doesn't need to keep fiddling with autoexec.bat and things like that. If you're gonna compare current OS from one platform with early 1990's OS from another, then yes, there is no comparison.

IE9 on Windows works quite nice. But I still prefer Chrome & Firefox.

ps: Safari sucks on Windows.
 
2012-10-05 10:00:07 AM
I've never seen a Mac throw errors for Windows. That's a first.

I've tried IE9 and it's a fine browser. The placement of the address bar and tabs is a bit weird but that might just be because of how long I've used chrome. All the IE hate stems from previous versions and current sites that have not upgraded and require you to use IE to view their contents correctly.
 
2012-10-05 10:08:35 AM

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Jon iz teh kewl: why would you DOWNLOAD IE TO MAC
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

THAT SAFARI CANT DO

As someone who has worked in IT for many years, and have had to tell many a Mac user to use something other than Safari so that the web sites they visit will actually work, I find your post amusing.


Worked in QA for online based software and the QA teams would always agree that Safari was hands down the worst browser out there. Stability and Functionality were near bottom when compared to the IE's, FF's, and Opera's that exist.
 
2012-10-05 10:32:44 AM

palladiate: Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.

Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.


I've heard this argument before, and I just don't get it. I used to develop web apps (mostly PHP & JavaScript) and the browser that always gave me the biggest headache was Firefox. I would usually end up with two sets of code; one that worked in pretty much every browser except Firefox, and then the code that I had to use so it would work in Firefox.

It's been a couple years, but one example I can remember is something as simple as using JS to get the color of an element. Pretty much every browser except FF would kick back your standard hex value, say #FF1632. Not Firefox. Oh no, they had to be special. Instead of FF1632, FF would kick back RGB(255, 16, 20). So, I had to write special code, just for Firefox, that translated the retarded return values it would kick back into the standard values returned by every other browser on Earth.
 
Bf+
2012-10-05 11:31:13 AM

EvilEgg: The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history.


Part of that bad history is that MS tends to always say "The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history."
 
2012-10-05 11:57:43 AM
If you're seriously trying to use IE on a Mac, you should control-click and move yourself to trash.
 
2012-10-05 12:59:19 PM
Kind of related:


Isn't that a weird song to use as background?

"I feel like I am just to close to love you."
 
2012-10-05 01:04:18 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: why would you DOWNLOAD IE TO MAC
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

THAT SAFARI CANT DO


not completely suck/be douchy maybe?
 
2012-10-05 01:08:06 PM

palladiate: Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.

Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.


Truth, but IE9 is waaaaay better and more open-standards compliant than all previous versions. Of the applications I've done, only IE8 and lower needed special javascript/css rules.
 
2012-10-05 01:53:03 PM

OminousAnonymous: Do you know how I can get IE, Chrome and Firefox to run on one machine without causing all kinds of problems? I had to disable IE to get Firefox & Chrome to work but when I want to work on the websites now I can't preview it in IE.



What was the specific issue?  I have them all running on at least two of my PCs (mine = Win7, wife = XP SP3).  Neither of us has any issues.  At least not installing and running them.
 
The wife recently moved from IE8 to Chrome and told me she thinks its 100x better.  Mostly because she does the more advanced stuff I don't... Evernote, stuff like that.
 
2012-10-05 01:55:17 PM

Teufelaffe: I've heard this argument before, and I just don't get it. I used to develop web apps (mostly PHP & JavaScript) and the browser that always gave me the biggest headache was Firefox



Not sure on your situation... but when you develop, what browser do you start in?  By that I mean... when i code, I don't check every single adjustment on all 3+ browsers every single time.  If I use Firefox as my "base" (that means, I reload the site on there for every tiny change) and then open the other browsers every few hours to see the whole of all my changes... those other browsers come off as the "problem".  Because I perfected it for Firefox, and now need to smooth it all out for all browsers.
 
2012-10-05 02:23:24 PM

downstairs: OminousAnonymous: Do you know how I can get IE, Chrome and Firefox to run on one machine without causing all kinds of problems? I had to disable IE to get Firefox & Chrome to work but when I want to work on the websites now I can't preview it in IE.


What was the specific issue?  I have them all running on at least two of my PCs (mine = Win7, wife = XP SP3).  Neither of us has any issues.  At least not installing and running them.
 
The wife recently moved from IE8 to Chrome and told me she thinks its 100x better.  Mostly because she does the more advanced stuff I don't... Evernote, stuff like that.


After a little while they just wouldn't open anymore. None of them and no errors or anything. I think it might be a default program issue.
 
2012-10-05 02:36:37 PM

Bf+: EvilEgg: The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history.

Part of that bad history is that MS tends to always say "The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history."


So are you saying the Microsoft should pretend the mediocre predecessors never happened? Sounds like basic marketing sense to me.
 
2012-10-05 03:52:08 PM

downstairs: Teufelaffe: I've heard this argument before, and I just don't get it. I used to develop web apps (mostly PHP & JavaScript) and the browser that always gave me the biggest headache was Firefox


Not sure on your situation... but when you develop, what browser do you start in?  By that I mean... when i code, I don't check every single adjustment on all 3+ browsers every single time.  If I use Firefox as my "base" (that means, I reload the site on there for every tiny change) and then open the other browsers every few hours to see the whole of all my changes... those other browsers come off as the "problem".  Because I perfected it for Firefox, and now need to smooth it all out for all browsers.


At the time, I was using Firefox during the dev process because I love the Web Developer extension. The color behavior one stood out just because I was already used to what other browsers did and was flabbergasted at how completely and utterly stupid Firefox's response was (Note: It appears they have since fixed that "feature" and the latest versions of FF return your web-standard Hex value). Since the app I was developing also needed to interact with the Windows clipboard (internal web server, being accessed by client machines that had no access to the outside world, so the "potential security risks" of clipboard access that FF will try and tell you are the worst thing EVER were something we didn't care about), and the versions of Firefox at the time had all sorts of crap you had to go through for clipboard access. IE has a JS function specifically for clipboard access, so it was two lines of code for IE. Chrome took a bit more coding, but still was pretty easy. FF required a couple dozen lines of code, plus changing security settings in FF for each client machine in order to get it to work. Though, it would appear that FF has also addressed that issue in the past few years, since the Chrome code now works in FF and I don't have to futz with local security settings in FF.

tl;dr: It appears that FF has gotten a lot better, but oh man did it drive me crazy a couple years ago.
 
2012-10-05 04:08:17 PM

YodaBlues: palladiate: Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.

Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.

Truth, but IE9 is waaaaay better and more open-standards compliant than all previous versions. Of the applications I've done, only IE8 and lower needed special javascript/css rules.


IE 8 is our company standard. We have million-dollar applications that only run on it. Billion-dollar tech company, we run IE8 across most of our call center agents.

Everything works mostly OK in IE9. IE8 makes me want to punch kittens. And does IE10 even support websockets yet, or do we have to wait for 12 to get something HTML5 complaint?
 
2012-10-05 04:38:46 PM

palladiate: And does IE10 even support websockets yet, or do we have to wait for 12 to get something HTML5 complaint?


From MSDN:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows Store apps using JavaScript add support for the WebSocket API as defined in the W3C's HTML5 specification on the WebSocket API, which is currently in the Working Draft stage.
 
2012-10-05 04:53:33 PM
Haha, I sell microsoft products. Sure IE had its issues. But man, look, that video showed Windows Errors when they were clearly running a crappy MAC
 
2012-10-05 05:20:08 PM

OminousAnonymous: Do you know how I can get IE, Chrome and Firefox to run on one machine without causing all kinds of problems? I had to disable IE to get Firefox & Chrome to work but when I want to work on the websites now I can't preview it in IE.


Try re-installing the host OS.
 
2012-10-05 07:27:30 PM

Teufelaffe: Big Ramifications: Sandwyrm: Stupid video. Some fool pushing nonsense to drive up pageviews.

Yeah. And the "watch moar of my stuff and my cat lives" bullshiat. That joke's so old it's got hairs on it.

That was a National Lampoon cover from the mid 1970s wasn't it? Except with a dog.

Yup.
[davemark.com image 360x484]


God I miss that magazine. My father had a bunch when I was a kid and they were hilarious and sexy at the same time. My favorite was a comic they would run about jesus where he was a modern day meek jew who would get killed and then come back as a ripped super jesus to save the day. I wish I could find those prints on line.
 
2012-10-05 07:29:00 PM

Teufelaffe: Big Ramifications: Sandwyrm: Stupid video. Some fool pushing nonsense to drive up pageviews.

Yeah. And the "watch moar of my stuff and my cat lives" bullshiat. That joke's so old it's got hairs on it.

That was a National Lampoon cover from the mid 1970s wasn't it? Except with a dog.

Yup.
[davemark.com image 360x484]


Apparently all I had to do was look.
 
2012-10-05 09:39:26 PM
I use Chrome because it is free
 
2012-10-05 10:12:15 PM
oh...delete the .exe from the desktop..that will show them
 
2012-10-06 12:02:22 AM
Microsoft is still in business?
 
2012-10-06 01:55:27 AM
That was a stupid, stupid video.
 
2012-10-06 06:36:19 AM

solokumba: Microsoft is still in business?


Yes they are, and Apple is still in business because of them, so take your snide comments and shove them in your parallel port.
 
2012-10-06 12:25:13 PM
Safari is horrible.
Macs are terrible, slow, crashy pains in the ass.
Using IE on a Mac is extremely retarded.
 
2012-10-06 12:39:01 PM

EvilEgg: The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history.


Yay!
MSIE is finally merely adequate!
Let's celebrate with a flashy ad campaign, and take credit for the standards other browsers adopted first.


Seriously, nobody remembers the early- to mid-oughts?
If it weren't for Mozilla and Webkit, the web would have died long ago from the weight of ActiveX and bad Flash and insecure Java applets by now.
 
2012-10-07 04:03:27 AM

jeanwearinfool: Teufelaffe: Big Ramifications: Sandwyrm: Stupid video. Some fool pushing nonsense to drive up pageviews.

Yeah. And the "watch moar of my stuff and my cat lives" bullshiat. That joke's so old it's got hairs on it.

That was a National Lampoon cover from the mid 1970s wasn't it? Except with a dog.

Yup.
[davemark.com image 360x484]

God I miss that magazine. My father had a bunch when I was a kid and they were hilarious and sexy at the same time. My favorite was a comic they would run about jesus where he was a modern day meek jew who would get killed and then come back as a ripped super jesus to save the day. I wish I could find those prints on line.

I has them all... or most of them at least... Prolly don't have the most recent ones... You prolly like John Hughes movies, as he was rather involved with the magazine...
 
2012-10-07 05:39:12 AM

EvilEgg: The new IE is actually as good as Chrome or Firefox, it just suffers from bad history.



Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Bullshiat, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
Kilgore: I love the smell of Bullshiat in the morning. You know, one time we lied, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink fact. The smell, you know that shiat smell, the whole hill. Smelled like victory. Someday this campaigns gonna end...
 
2012-10-08 08:54:43 AM

palladiate: Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.

Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.


OminousAnonymous: palladiate: Big Ramifications: I'm aware of the arguments. They simply don't resonate with me.

Develop web applications sometime. Hey this works and looks PERFECT in ever browser ever. Wait, except IE. Let me check these errors in MS's knowledgebase.

Then you read an article that tells you to do something Alaska-Snow-Queen level retarded to work around their "enhancements" to HTML and DOM that were kept around to support their ancient crap like Frontpage or ActiveX.

~
~
That 2nd bolded bit pretty much nails it. I was always just Joe User. 3 or 4 IE windows open at any one time. Not into teh Napster or anything like that, but I spent a lot of time surfing and on forums. Maybe a couple of windows of Excel open at the same time. Got the odd crash, sure, but nothing memorable and it was never an "issue."

Then when I consider how down-with-Big-Corp! arguments in general attract attention seeking non-thinking Shouty People like flies to a jam jar*.... I wonder how much this really was an issue for the majority of users. We're a pretty leet bunch on Fark, remember.

*granted this particular Micro$haft argument of its era had merit, and there were plenty of well laid out criticisms out there, but Broken Watch theory for a lot of howler monkeys, I reckon

// I tried to use examples from an era when the general web noise of anti Microsoft feeling was greatest. I hope I guessed right.
 
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