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2012-10-05 10:00:53 AM  

intelligent comment below: Wow and here you are derping up this topic. Are you serious? The Bible is the Bible. Both OT and NT. Jesus said he comes to fulfil the old laws, not remove them. You still have to follow the 10 Commandments that are in the OT not the NT. You are just a fairweather religious person. But that isn't surprising, a conservative has to be.


Also, not being Jewish, I'm pretty certain I've never been bound by the second covenant. The first however, yes. And since I'm not Roman Catholic, I never took to the premise that Jesus bound us all to the 10 commandments, but freed us from the mitzvot.

Also, what happens to the Christians from before and to about 200 years after the First Nicene Council? The modern canon wasn't exactly established in one divinely-inspired moment. Somebody was reading the false words of God before the One True Word of God even existed.
 
2012-10-05 10:42:45 AM  

palladiate: God-is-a-Taco: Wars started by Quakers, against Quakers, or about Quakers: 0

Ahem. Major General Nathanael Greene. He didn't start a war, but he was kind of a big deal in ending one.


I don't think he started or ended wars, but if we're listing fighting Quakers ... Link
 
2012-10-05 11:00:49 AM  

Lunaville: I don't think he started or ended wars, but if we're listing fighting Quakers ... Link


Butler was awesome as well, but I figured Greene might be better known.

Lesson 1 of warfare- don't mess with the pacifists.
 
2012-10-05 11:46:06 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: grinnel:
Do you know what Christianity is? Christianity can, will, and does exist without the OT


Wars started by Quakers, against Quakers, or about Quakers: 0
People killed in the name of Quaker beliefs: 0
Same-sex marriage acceptance: 1978
Slavery: Mostly abolished among Quakers in the 18th century, before America was even a country 

For Quaker God's sake, they even have atheist communities among Quakerdom.

Also:[thecouponproject.com image 320x320] 

Look in his eyes. Is that not the man who represents the divine?


If he isn't baked halfway to Neptune, I'd be astounded.

Just kidding, I admire the principles of the Quakers, Bahai and all those other little pacifist religions that get steamrollered by the Powers That Be. 

/I like the idea of the Fightin' Quakers.
 
2012-10-05 01:03:01 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: grinnel:
Do you know what Christianity is? Christianity can, will, and does exist without the OT


Wars started by Quakers, against Quakers, or about Quakers: 0
People killed in the name of Quaker beliefs: 0
Same-sex marriage acceptance: 1978
Slavery: Mostly abolished among Quakers in the 18th century, before America was even a country 

For Quaker God's sake, they even have atheist communities among Quakerdom.

Also:[thecouponproject.com image 320x320] 

Look in his eyes. Is that not the man who represents the divine?


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2012-10-05 01:59:55 PM  

intelligent comment below: grinnel: Christianity can, will, and does exist without the OT


Wow and here you are derping up this topic. Are you serious? The Bible is the Bible. Both OT and NT. Jesus said he comes to fulfil the old laws, not remove them. You still have to follow the 10 Commandments that are in the OT not the NT. You are just a fairweather religious person. But that isn't surprising, a conservative has to be.


Jesus was not a continuation of the old covenant, but became the new covenant. If you follow Jesus's teachings, you will be abiding by the ten commandments and more. As stated in another post, one can follow a law without compassion or caring, but one cannot follow the teachings of Jesus without them.

There is nothing fair weather about my religious beliefs.
 
2012-10-05 04:10:42 PM  

grinnel: you will be abiding by the ten commandments and more.



But you decide what you want to follow? That makes you fairweather. You can't just pick and choose some parts of the OT but not others. Either you believe the Bible in its entirety is the world of God, or you are a "Christian" like Mormons are with their own additions and subtractions.


grinnel: There is nothing fair weather about my religious beliefs.



Of course there is, you can't be a Republican/conservative today and claim to be a follower of Jesus
 
2012-10-05 04:37:34 PM  

intelligent comment below: grinnel: you will be abiding by the ten commandments and more.


But you decide what you want to follow? That makes you fairweather. You can't just pick and choose some parts of the OT but not others. Either you believe the Bible in its entirety is the world of God, or you are a "Christian" like Mormons are with their own additions and subtractions.


grinnel: There is nothing fair weather about my religious beliefs.


Of course there is, you can't be a Republican/conservative today and claim to be a follower of Jesus



I never denounced the OT as the inspired word of the Almighty. I stated that the NT does not require the OT in order to deliver its message. How am I deciding what to follow? I follow the teachings of Jesus. He covers the law in the new testament. He is the law.
The Council of Jerusalem stated that gentile converts to Christianity must abide by the seven laws of noah and the ten commandments, plus a kosher butchering rule about not eating blood. That is it, nothing more. Jesus taught these commandments and added even more to them. Jesus's final commandment:


"My command is this: Love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command." (John 15:12-14)



Where is that in the OT can you find that?
Again, it is possible to abide by the OT law and not love or yearn for betterment of man; it is not possible with Jesus.

Let me simplify this for you:

The US Constitution is based on the Magna Carta. Must all naturalized citizens study the MC in order to abide by the law of the constitution and be allowed to become citizens of this country.
 
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