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(Daily Mail)   Paralyzed woman with terminal brain cancer wants Doctors to remove her breathing tube and let her die relatively quickly and painlessly with dignity, but her parents are preventing that from happening because Jesus   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 119
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2012-10-05 02:10:52 AM
Damn. I can't handle all these "Stupid Events in Religion" posts in such quick succession.

Your religion is bad and you should feel bad.
 
2012-10-05 02:12:26 AM
REPUBLICANS to the rescue!

Shine up those "Save Terry" buttons!
 
2012-10-05 02:14:33 AM
jesus loves him some suffering
 
2012-10-05 02:15:11 AM
Ms Lee's mother, Jin-ah Lee, said: 'I keep telling her she can get better.'

I'm speechless.
 
2012-10-05 02:16:09 AM
Yeah, and the paralyzed guy who handles the estate is named Will. I've heard this one before.
 
2012-10-05 02:16:18 AM
Not a repeat from 2005...
 
2012-10-05 02:16:27 AM
Sick and wrong.

They interrupted any God's will the moment she was hooked up to machines and pumped full of chemicals.
 
2012-10-05 02:17:00 AM
This just in! Religion turns good people into sociopaths.
 
2012-10-05 02:20:57 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132623/
 
2012-10-05 02:21:15 AM

ryant123: This just in! Religion is an excuse people use to act like turns good people into sociopaths.

 
2012-10-05 02:22:27 AM
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2012-10-05 02:22:43 AM
Were one of my children or grandchildren to be in this situation, my heart would tell me to keep them alive at any cost but my head would tell me let it go.

There is nothing, just nothing that is going to heal this woman. She knows it, the doctors know it and anyone with half a brain knows it. If she wants to go, let her go. I would hate to have to witness this with any of my relatives, but if they wanted to let go, I'd let them. The parents here are just being selfish and stupid.
 
2012-10-05 02:22:59 AM
meh. They're working it out at the hearing. The woman is probably already dead. Beyond that I think we can be respectful enough of other cultures not to subject them to our own standards, even if they say stuff that's patently crazy, like the statement that removing a breathing tube is suicide.
 
2012-10-05 02:23:15 AM
Those life support machines are playing God. Removing the machines only puts her life in God's hands.
 
2012-10-05 02:23:53 AM
What? They aren't praying her better? DNRTFA.
 
2012-10-05 02:24:37 AM

phrenicmonkey: Ms Lee's mother, Jin-ah Lee, said: 'I keep telling her she can get better.'

I'm speechless.


This isn't like being turned into a newt!
 
2012-10-05 02:25:09 AM
On Grey's Anatomy, there was a patient who had terminal brain cancer and was trying to refuse treatment. Her family stepped in and finally convinced her that treatment was her only hope.

She made a full recovery and went on to see her daughter get married and have grandchildren.

That woman's name was Gladys Knight and the Pips.

And now you know the rest of the story.
 
2012-10-05 02:25:27 AM
And now that I've RTFA I can say that, parents or jeebus, someone really hates that gal.

/Can't it be both?
 
2012-10-05 02:26:34 AM
Christians encouraging human suffering?

Must be a day ending in y.
 
2012-10-05 02:27:12 AM
'Whose Life is it anyway?'

Not yours, biatch! You belong to Jesus!
 
2012-10-05 02:27:44 AM
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2012-10-05 02:27:53 AM
The machine is keeping her alive? Turn off the machine.

If she lives, it's because god wants her to. If she dies, it's because god wants her to. End of story.
 
2012-10-05 02:30:01 AM

BoxOfBees: Beyond that I think we can be respectful enough of other cultures not to subject them to our own standards, even if they say stuff that's patently crazy, like the statement that removing a breathing tube is suicide.


Culture, sure. Irrationality not so much.
It's a shame this woman is unable to make the choice for herself. For all anyone knows she may want to just die and her family is doing her a disservice by not respecting that; albeit not knowing either way of course.
 
2012-10-05 02:31:06 AM
28 is too farking young...
 
2012-10-05 02:32:47 AM
Culture, sure. Irrationality not so much.
It's a shame this woman is unable to make the choice for herself. For all anyone knows she may want to just die and her family is doing her a disservice by not respecting that; albeit not knowing either way of course.


FTFM
 
2012-10-05 02:36:49 AM
What selfish parents. I know it must be hard to see her like that, but imagine being her and having to have such stress and drama at the end of your life :( is this really how these people want to end the time they have with her...a court battle?
 
2012-10-05 02:45:02 AM

EmmaLou: What selfish parents. I know it must be hard to see her like that, but imagine being her and having to have such stress and drama at the end of your life :( is this really how these people want to end the time they have with her...a court battle?


It's not selfish. It's stupid, but it's not selfish. They legitimately believe that if they let her get the tube removed, she'll burn in hell. Now I personally think that's idiotic, but if you believe it to be true, then preventing her from doing it would be the correct thing to do.
 
2012-10-05 02:46:17 AM
Speaking with the New York Daily News, Ms Lee's mother, Jin-ah Lee, said: 'Despite all this confusion, (my daughter) wants to go to heaven. I keep telling her she can get bette

Some Tiger Mom putting her own wishes ahead of the well being and dignity of her daugher. Color me shocked
 
2012-10-05 02:46:55 AM
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Link
 
2012-10-05 02:47:23 AM
God's here with me.
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God's on my side.
 
2012-10-05 02:47:33 AM

EmmaLou: What selfish parents. I know it must be hard to see her like that, but imagine being her and having to have such stress and drama at the end of your life :( is this really how these people want to end the time they have with her...a court battle?


When she dies, they will comfort themselves by telling themselves they did everything possible to prolong her stay on earth. They'll disregard the agony they kept her alive in, and assure themselves that what they did was right in the sight of their God. They'll believe with all their hearts that she is looking down from some kind of Heaven and smiling on them, saying that she loves them and forgives them for everything and doesn't blame them for the hell they put her through. Even while the court case drags on, they will be telling themselves she doesn't really want to die, it's the drugs or the cancer or Satan telling her that.

They will really believe all this and will never think for a second that they did something wrong.
 
2012-10-05 02:48:56 AM

phrenicmonkey: Ms Lee's mother, Jin-ah Lee, said: 'I keep telling her she can get better.'

I'm speechless.


Good thing you can still type.

JESUS!
 
2012-10-05 02:50:11 AM
I have the best family. They've promised to kill me in this situation, even if it means going to jail.
 
2012-10-05 02:52:49 AM
The euthanasia fight is a lot older than you think here's an Aug 31, story about a woman going to court for the right to die. That's August 31, 1912 Hell people were fighting for abortion rights in the 1830. Nothing is new and nothing ever changes the things your great-grandparents biatched about 100 years ago is the same things your great grand children will be biatching about in 2112.
 
2012-10-05 02:55:58 AM

borg: The euthanasia fight is a lot older than you think here's an Aug 31, story about a woman going to court for the right to die. That's August 31, 1912 Hell people were fighting for abortion rights in the 1830. Nothing is new and nothing ever changes the things your great-grandparents biatched about 100 years ago is the same things your great grand children will be biatching about in 2112.


All lies! Things are terrible now for the first time ever, and the battles we fight today are the most important ones that have ever been fought!
 
2012-10-05 02:56:37 AM
I had to help kill my dad this year (on my birthday) and then a few months later, on my vacation, I had to help my mom and family decide to let my grandmother go as well. While that was going on, my aunt died alone because we were all at the other hospital.

I believe that a person should have the right to decide when and how they die. What I've seen this year is deplorable behavior by medical "professionals" who care only for the bottom line. This woman's decision should be respected.
 
2012-10-05 02:59:48 AM

borg: ...the things your great-grandparents biatched about 100 years ago is the same things your great grand children will be biatching about in 2112.


Not if the priests of the Temple of Syrinx have anything to say about it.
 
2012-10-05 03:02:55 AM
FTFA:

Dr Powell said that there are some practices that could help Ms Lee's parents come to terms with their daughter's illness. 'These are religious people, and they know we are all mortal,' she said. 'Being clear about that can maybe help decrease their suffering.'


I dunno, it seems to me that many religions are based around the idea that people (or their spirit or soul or whatever the f*ck) are not mortal, and when we shuffle off this earthly coil we go on to heaven, hell, ghosthood or reincarnation or whatever. Pretty much every religion I can think of absolutely relies on the idea of some sort of afterlife.

If these parents want to come to terms with it in a Christian way, can't they realize Jesus is "calling her home" or similar bullsh*t?
 
2012-10-05 03:03:36 AM

Gyrfalcon: EmmaLou: What selfish parents. I know it must be hard to see her like that, but imagine being her and having to have such stress and drama at the end of your life :( is this really how these people want to end the time they have with her...a court battle?

When she dies, they will comfort themselves by telling themselves they did everything possible to prolong her stay on earth. They'll disregard the agony they kept her alive in, and assure themselves that what they did was right in the sight of their God. They'll believe with all their hearts that she is looking down from some kind of Heaven and smiling on them, saying that she loves them and forgives them for everything and doesn't blame them for the hell they put her through. Even while the court case drags on, they will be telling themselves she doesn't really want to die, it's the drugs or the cancer or Satan telling her that.

They will really believe all this and will never think for a second that they did something wrong.


Worst still - they're 1000% convinced that her suffering is just part of God's plan for her, and that there is always a silver lining to be found.

Now, I'm a religious person myself, but I doubt God said to himself, "when I create this person, I'm giving her a terminal brain tumor, just for the lulz".
 
2012-10-05 03:06:14 AM

Bonzo_1116: FTFA:

Dr Powell said that there are some practices that could help Ms Lee's parents come to terms with their daughter's illness. 'These are religious people, and they know we are all mortal,' she said. 'Being clear about that can maybe help decrease their suffering.'


I dunno, it seems to me that many religions are based around the idea that people (or their spirit or soul or whatever the f*ck) are not mortal, and when we shuffle off this earthly coil we go on to heaven, hell, ghosthood or reincarnation or whatever. Pretty much every religion I can think of absolutely relies on the idea of some sort of afterlife.

If these parents want to come to terms with it in a Christian way, can't they realize Jesus is "calling her home" or similar bullsh*t?


Getting into Heaven relies on playing by the rules, and apparently you can only get in if you fight and scratch and cling to every second of life here on earth. Which makes sense, when you don't really think about it.
 
2012-10-05 03:09:05 AM

Crudbucket:

Getting into Heaven relies on playing by the rules, and apparently you can only get in if you fight and scratch and cling to every second of life here on earth. Which makes sense, when you don't really think about it.


I guess all those saints and other assorted martyrs are burning in Hell, then. Good to know.
 
2012-10-05 03:14:03 AM

Bonzo_1116: I guess all those saints and other assorted martyrs are burning in Hell, then. Good to know.


According to every baptist I've ever met, they most certainly are.
 
2012-10-05 03:21:53 AM
medical professionals see people suffer while family members live in denial every day of the week. regardless of your age be wise and prepare the proper documentation so this cannot happen to you. and make damn sure several people know such paperwork exists. save yourself needless suffering, keep an unscrupulous medical facility from making money off your ravaged being (if that is your fear) and remove the guilt/denial from the minds of your loved ones.

/do it
//do it now, damn you!
 
2012-10-05 04:19:28 AM
Stories like this are precisely why my wife and I drafted advance health care directives (more commonly known as living wills) so that our respective families know our wishes. Neither one of us wants to be kept alive by machines and slowly waste away when there's no chance of a cure.

Her family is mainly comprised of religious nutjobs who all claim to know the will of God for basically any major life event, so I expect to be battling them tooth and nail should we ever be in that type of situation. 

/hopefully we both just die together in our sleep
//or while farking
 
2012-10-05 04:19:33 AM
praise jeebus!
 
2012-10-05 04:37:20 AM

elementalogic:
//or while farking


The whole "nice guys finish last" bit just got a lot more creepier.
 
2012-10-05 04:52:27 AM
I haz a RAGE.

Die slowly, Christers, preferably with no one to hear you beg.
 
2012-10-05 04:57:27 AM
I know I'm going to go relatively soon. The choice of when, and how to do so is therefor extremely important to me.

Leaving this world is unpleasant enough; should my loved ones really suffer criminal penalties for holding my hand as I do so?

Religious shiatbags; you can have my soul; I'm bloody done with it.
 
2012-10-05 04:57:42 AM

BoxOfBees: meh. They're working it out at the hearing. The woman is probably already dead. Beyond that I think we can be respectful enough of other cultures not to subject them to our own standards, even if they say stuff that's patently crazy, like the statement that removing a breathing tube is suicide.


But, but, godly miracle! Praise jeebus!
/let the poor lady already
 
2012-10-05 05:32:55 AM

farkingismybusiness: God's here with me.
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God's on my side.




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