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(Daily Mail)   Court rules that mentally retarded woman with cerebral palsy who can only communicate with one finger was asking for it because she didn't bite the man who was raping her, releases rapist from prison. Sounds legitimate   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 126
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2012-10-05 02:36:41 AM
Repeat?
 
2012-10-05 02:42:11 AM
Nice job, Connecticut. Hope you get raped soon.
 
2012-10-05 02:43:47 AM
That's farking retarded.
 
2012-10-05 02:44:15 AM
This, the experimental shunt and paralyzed woman articles remind me of thanksgiving dinner conversation with my family.
 
2012-10-05 02:44:58 AM
Why you gotta be like that drew? Why ya gotta be like that.
 
2012-10-05 02:46:27 AM
She's a pilot, now.
 
2012-10-05 02:48:04 AM

Summoner101: That's farking retarded.


*golf clap*
 
2012-10-05 02:48:14 AM

EsteeFlwrPot: This, the experimental shunt and paralyzed woman articles remind me of thanksgiving dinner conversation with my family.


It reminds me why I don't have holiday dinners with my family any more.
 
2012-10-05 02:50:22 AM
why isnt it legal to kill appellate judges again?
I am sure that if they didnt want you to shoot them in the head, they would just shout at the bullets or wink or something.
 
2012-10-05 02:50:45 AM
That can't possibly be *reads the article*....fark it. fark him. fark the state. fark the judges. fark this. I'm out. I'm going to bed. I hope they all get raped by the time I wake up.
 
2012-10-05 02:52:13 AM
There's got to be something more to this. Did the state really fark up the case that bad?
 
2012-10-05 02:53:16 AM
It's a good thing I don't have any superpowers. If I did, scum like this animal would be dying from "accidents" rather often. The idiot judges, too.
 
2012-10-05 02:53:59 AM

namatad: why isnt it legal to kill appellate judges again?
I am sure that if they didnt want you to shoot them in the head, they would just shout at the bullets or wink or something.


Normally appellate judges are saner than the lower ones. In this case I'm hoping they didn't actually read about her condition. Hopefully it gets appealed to the supreme court and he ends up behind bars again.
 
2012-10-05 02:56:18 AM
Yeah if only the mentally/physically disabled would vote and pay taxes instead of living off of the social teat, they might get better representation in the courts and legislatures.

/ Sarcasm off....
 
2012-10-05 02:56:41 AM
Did she get pregnant?
 
2012-10-05 02:58:49 AM

EsteeFlwrPot: This, the experimental shunt and paralyzed woman articles remind me of thanksgiving dinner conversation with my family.


It's actually the women-who-can't-possibly-say-no-to-me trifecta, and god damn do drool and diapers turn me on. I'll be in my bunk, pulling the plug.
 
2012-10-05 02:58:51 AM

ypsifly: Yeah if only the mentally/physically disabled would vote and pay taxes instead of living off of the social teat, they might get better representation in the courts and legislatures.

/ Sarcasm off....


Whoawhoawhoa, who wants them to vote?
 
2012-10-05 03:04:51 AM
Remember folks, "........" means "........"
 
2012-10-05 03:05:06 AM
I am not going to read all of the comments before I pu forth my 2 cents, but really, ModMins ?
Cant we have just at least one damn day that does not show humans for the pest in the garden that you keep being ? I know, welcome to fark but i mean REALLY. Just going for the lowest common deniminator story does NOt help you.
I am happy someone got a green, but seriously- have we lowered the standards this damn low ? Please tell my that i am mistaken.
 
2012-10-05 03:05:41 AM
Four articles from the Daily Fail so far today and it's only 3AM!
 
2012-10-05 03:06:31 AM
Sounds like Missouri GOP politicians have been coaching Connecticut on which rapes are legitimate.
 
2012-10-05 03:06:35 AM
or tell me , even.
opps. i was upset. sorry
 
2012-10-05 03:13:49 AM

alienated: I am not going to read all of the comments before I pu forth my 2 cents, but really, ModMins ?
Cant we have just at least one damn day that does not show humans for the pest in the garden that you keep being ? I know, welcome to fark but i mean REALLY. Just going for the lowest common deniminator story does NOt help you.
I am happy someone got a green, but seriously- have we lowered the standards this damn low ? Please tell my that i am mistaken.


The world is a dark place. You can run away from it if you want, but don't force others to join you.
 
2012-10-05 03:14:43 AM
Sentenced to six years in jail upon 2008 conviction

I've spent some time around people this disabled. If you rape one of them, you seriously need to be put away for longer than that, because you are quite possibly an incurable sociopath. This lowlife was dating the woman's mother, and the theory is what, that the daughter came on to him? That he engaged her in a conversation and realized she was his soulmate?

From the Libertarian Party Platform:
We assert the common-law right of juries to judge not only the facts but also the justice of the law.

Unless people use a little common sense and stop worrying about the sacrosanct wording of the law, we are going to be dropping off our retarded children at the abortion clinic just to prevent them from bearing Satan's spawn.
 
2012-10-05 03:19:43 AM

robohobo: ypsifly: Yeah if only the mentally/physically disabled would vote and pay taxes instead of living off of the social teat, they might get better representation in the courts and legislatures.

/ Sarcasm off....

Whoawhoawhoa, who wants them to vote?


It wouldn't lead to a noticeable difference in results.
 
2012-10-05 03:20:30 AM
Hold on a second: was it a "rape," rape rape, or legitimate rape?
 
2012-10-05 03:23:54 AM

OgreMagi: It's a good thing I don't have any superpowers. If I did, scum like this animal would be dying from "accidents" rather often. The idiot judges, too.


Batman?
 
2012-10-05 03:25:23 AM

BoxOfBees: Sentenced to six years in jail upon 2008 conviction

I've spent some time around people this disabled. If you rape one of them, you seriously need to be put away for longer than that, because you are quite possibly an incurable sociopath. This lowlife was dating the woman's mother, and the theory is what, that the daughter came on to him? That he engaged her in a conversation and realized she was his soulmate?

From the Libertarian Party Platform:
We assert the common-law right of juries to judge not only the facts but also the justice of the law.

Unless people use a little common sense and stop worrying about the sacrosanct wording of the law, we are going to be dropping off our retarded children at the abortion clinic just to prevent them from bearing Satan's spawn.


Nobody cares about the Libertarian party platform.
 
2012-10-05 03:30:58 AM

alienated: I am not going to read all of the comments before I pu forth my 2 cents, but really, ModMins ?
Cant we have just at least one damn day that does not show humans for the pest in the garden that you keep being ? I know, welcome to fark but i mean REALLY. Just going for the lowest common deniminator story does NOt help you.
I am happy someone got a green, but seriously- have we lowered the standards this damn low ? Please tell my that i am mistaken.


If it makes you feel better, I don't think they ever greenlit the articles submitted about the father who orally raped his newborn baby to death and left the used condom in the baby's mouth, or the story about the 14-year-old girl who had her baby, choked it to death, and left it in a shoebox that her mother found because the girl was afraid to tell her mother she was pregnant.

So, the most depressing "time for the roaches to take over" stories don't always get greenlit.

/we should all get together and communicate our feelings to the judges with one finger.
 
2012-10-05 03:32:38 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-05 03:34:46 AM
To anyone who would complain about them, this is why assault rifles exist.
 
2012-10-05 03:35:16 AM
She sounds hawt!
 
2012-10-05 03:36:18 AM

FirstNationalBastard:
If it makes you feel better, I don't think they ever greenlit the articles submitted about the father who orally raped his newborn baby to death and left the used condom in the baby's mouth,


Link?
 
2012-10-05 03:36:53 AM
I don't want to live on this planet anymore

/penn state shower joke
 
2012-10-05 03:38:37 AM

God-is-a-Taco: FirstNationalBastard:
If it makes you feel better, I don't think they ever greenlit the articles submitted about the father who orally raped his newborn baby to death and left the used condom in the baby's mouth,


Link?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/steven-deuman-oral-rape-murd e r-baby-daughter_n_1903283.html
 
2012-10-05 03:46:32 AM
-. --- -- . .- -. ... -. ---
 
2012-10-05 03:48:45 AM

Greymalkin: -. --- -- . .- -. ... -. ---


Except when it really means yes.
 
2012-10-05 03:49:06 AM
The problem seems to be that the particular crime he was charged with doesn't involve "did she fail to consent" but instead "was she physically unable to communicate lack of consent." That law seems designed for the unconscious/sleeping/drugged victim.

Apparently the prosecution failed to prove that this victim was physically unable to communicate. Pretty much everyone who testified about her said that the victim was in fact able to communicate in a number of different ways (including gestures and loud screeching), not to mention that she took the witness stand in court, and the rape only came to light in the first place because she communicated the allegation to someone. (The state offered zero evidence that she was physically unable to do all these things at the time of the assault.)

It isn't that she could have bit him (or shrieked or whatever) and didn't, it is that she could have -- even if she had bitten him it would only have made the guy's appeal easier to win.

Yeah, the result is stupid; if she didn't consent then she didn't consent. So...someone farked up at some point. My suspicion is that the prosecution didn't fully think through their cunning plan to (among other things) rely on a victim's testimony and also have to prove that she was physically unable to communicate. But I don't know why they thought this was the right way to charge the guy under the circumstances.

What this appellate court did is acknowledge the fact that nonverbal communication is still communication. (Imagine if a victim who shook her head and screamed could be said to not have communicated a lack of consent because she didn't use words.) And that meant the crime this guy committed couldn't have been the same one he got convicted of.


"As a preliminary matter, it bears emphasis that no
one would dispute that the victim is physically helpless
in the ordinary sense of that term. Physical helplessness
under § 53a-65 (6), however, has a highly particularized
meaning that is unrelated to whether a person is physically
able to resist unwanted sexual advances or mentally
able to understand when to resist such advances.
Rather, under § 53a-65 (6), a person is physically helpless
if they are ''unconscious or for any other reason
. . . physically unable to communicate unwillingness
to an act.'' (Emphasis added.) Our case law, and the
case law of other jurisdictions, makes clear that, under
this definition, even total physical incapacity does not,
by itself, render an individual physically helpless.14"

(I gather that last line is an inane way of saying that you can be physically restrained but still object to something verbally.)
 
2012-10-05 03:49:17 AM

Greymalkin: -. --- -- . .- -. ... -. ---


Your finger says no no, but your eyes say yes yes.
 
2012-10-05 03:57:56 AM

BoxOfBees: [...] we are going to be dropping off our retarded children at the abortion clinic just to prevent them from bearing Satan's spawn.


If you're talking about aborting fetuses after they are determined to be defective, "we" are already doing that, at least those of us who judge that to be the right course of action. Yay for freedom and personal responsibility.

If you're talking about the guardians of mentally incompetent pregnant girls taking those girls in to the clinic to have abortions, I doubt that a large proportion of the public object to that, especially considering that sex with a mentally incompetent girl is often judged to be rape.

In any case, "we" as a society won't have to do anything. That's freedom. You and your fellow citizen may act in keeping with your own conscience in this matter. So long as you respect each other's privacy and obey the law of the land (such as HIPAA) you need not be disturbed by the choices of people who choose differently from you.
 
2012-10-05 04:00:29 AM

rnatalie: Greymalkin: -. --- -- . .- -. ... -. ---

Your finger says no no, but your eyes say yes yes.


Actually, her eyes say "potato," but that's beside the point.
 
2012-10-05 04:01:04 AM

jakepowers: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

/penn state shower joke


People in the know say that the Penn State showers are "out of this world".
 
2012-10-05 04:03:36 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: The problem seems to be that the particular crime he was charged with doesn't involve "did she fail to consent" but instead "was she physically unable to communicate lack of consent." That law seems designed for the unconscious/sleeping/drugged victim.

Apparently the prosecution failed to prove that this victim was physically unable to communicate. Pretty much everyone who testified about her said that the victim was in fact able to communicate in a number of different ways (including gestures and loud screeching), not to mention that she took the witness stand in court, and the rape only came to light in the first place because she communicated the allegation to someone. (The state offered zero evidence that she was physically unable to do all these things at the time of the assault.)

It isn't that she could have bit him (or shrieked or whatever) and didn't, it is that she could have -- even if she had bitten him it would only have made the guy's appeal easier to win.

Yeah, the result is stupid; if she didn't consent then she didn't consent. So...someone farked up at some point. My suspicion is that the prosecution didn't fully think through their cunning plan to (among other things) rely on a victim's testimony and also have to prove that she was physically unable to communicate. But I don't know why they thought this was the right way to charge the guy under the circumstances.

What this appellate court did is acknowledge the fact that nonverbal communication is still communication. (Imagine if a victim who shook her head and screamed could be said to not have communicated a lack of consent because she didn't use words.) And that meant the crime this guy committed couldn't have been the same one he got convicted of.


"As a preliminary matter, it bears emphasis that no
one would dispute that the victim is physically helpless
in the ordinary sense of that term. Physical helplessness
under § 53a-65 (6), however, has a highly particularized
meaning that is unrela ...


The girl has the mental capacity of a 3-year old. It should be a given that she's incapable of consent.
 
2012-10-05 04:03:43 AM

rnatalie: Greymalkin: -. --- -- . .- -. ... -. ---

Your finger says no no, but your eyes say yes yes.


i160.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 04:04:53 AM

ShannonKW: jakepowers: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

/penn state shower joke

People in the know say that the Penn State showers are "out of this world".


ShannonKW: jakepowers: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

/penn state shower joke

People in the know say that the Penn State showers are "out of this world".



Evie was sooo hot.
 
2012-10-05 04:05:58 AM
I expected this to be in some third world, religious, militant, patriarchal type society - WTF!!!!

Guess the USoA does fit the description these days.
 
2012-10-05 04:06:42 AM

robohobo: ShannonKW: jakepowers: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

/penn state shower joke

People in the know say that the Penn State showers are "out of this world".

ShannonKW: jakepowers: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

/penn state shower joke

People in the know say that the Penn State showers are "out of this world".


Evie was sooo hot.


Oh, the things she could do with just two fingers.
 
2012-10-05 04:09:34 AM

alienated: I am not going to read all of the comments before I pu forth my 2 cents, but really, ModMins ?
Cant we have just at least one damn day that does not show humans for the pest in the garden that you keep being ? I know, welcome to fark but i mean REALLY. Just going for the lowest common deniminator story does NOt help you.
I am happy someone got a green, but seriously- have we lowered the standards this damn low ? Please tell my that i am mistaken.


You mean you wanted the blue pill instead?
 
2012-10-05 04:09:58 AM
He went full retard. You never go full retard.

/Was that wrong?
//Should I not have said that?
 
2012-10-05 04:10:51 AM

Bathia_Mapes: The girl has the mental capacity of a 3-year old. It should be a given that she's incapable of consent.


Yeah, for all the "think of the children! hysteria you hear about, in cases like this where someone has the mental capacity of a three-year-old, how is it even possible they could legally consent to sex?

Or are the judges who ruled on the case getting up to some freaky shiat with 3-year-olds?
 
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