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(Daily Mail)   11-year-old girl who needs a heart and liver transplant can't contain her joy after killing 335-pound bear on hunting trip. Too bad he didn't have a heart and a liver in his pic-a-nic basket   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 384
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2012-10-05 09:16:00 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: seniorgato: You know, you go hunt a deer, you kill it, and process it. Then eat it.
Killing a bear... You get, what? A rug?
I mean, yes, if the bear is a danger, that's one thing. But I sincerely doubt a girl with a heart and liver problem was out hunting a man eater..

Wasting the meat is a crime in every state. In many places you have to pack out it before capes/antlers. Big game hunting is the largest source of protein food banks have.


ts4.mm.bing.net

This man is no longer happy. 
 
2012-10-05 09:16:26 AM  
Good for her, and f*ck you hippie pansies. Go hug a bear.
 
2012-10-05 09:16:28 AM  
Do we get to release her into a paddock full of hungry bears after the transplant? She should be at her best right before she's taken out.

/people that kill for fun are something this world can do without
//came for photoshop of girl stuffed an mounted on wall while bear sits in barc-o-lounger reading the paper
///still holding out hope
 
2012-10-05 09:17:51 AM  

sendtodave: DempseySR26: Libtards don't know hunting bears is for population control. I'm shocked shocked I tell youl

Oh, come on, you can do better than that.

Try "liberals don't value human life, think people should be subservient to animals" or some such.


Unlike the has beens (religous, right wing, self serving, limited vision nutts) who think its ok to kill a mentally ill peep who ended up in their lounge room, no questions asked.

And yes we need to respect our cousins (their DNA is almost ours - cept of course if you are a biblical nuttjob), some how we have to give them the space they not only need, but deserve.

Haven't you ever loved an animal? (I know I love you :p)
 
2012-10-05 09:18:30 AM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7365209/79819831#c79819831" target="_blank">sendtodave</a>:</b> <i>curriemaster: Seriously, why would you hunt animals you cant eat?

I still think that "if you eat it, then that's OK" is motivated reasoning. I don't see the distinction.

Most people that would even debate this crisis of conscious don't need to eat meat. They assuredly don't need to hunt for it. There is tofu at the supermarket.

But, eating meat makes people happy, at the expense of an animal's life. Not much different than sport killing. Dead animal, happy person. Animal exists to make person happy.

The animal doesn't go "Oh, you're killing me so that I can rot in your intestinal tract, instead of leaving my carcass to rot on the ground, so that's OK."

Is killing an animal for the pleasure of a tasty burger really less "sadistic?"</i>

Nicely put. Though I don't care about killing some animals for food--cows, chickens--simply because there are so damn many of them.
 
2012-10-05 09:19:28 AM  

Mose: I've got an old bone handle carving knife in the farmhouse. I'm quite sure it isn't human bone, but it's one of the best knives own. Carbon steel blade. When I found it, sharpened it and started using it, I wished I hadn't spent as much as I had on my stainless knives with plastic handles.


This two are the best knives I own:

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The top one has a carbon steel blade, and the handle is the antler of a deer I shot many, many years ago. The blade itself was purchased, but it's a quality blade, and it holds an edge quite well, but is also easy to sharpen. The bolster is a nice German silver, and it has my name and the date of the deer kill engraved on the butt of the knife.

The bottom one has a hand-made carbon steel blade made out of O-1 tool steel, and the handle is India stag. It was my first hunting knife, made for me back when I was 14 (has it been 31 years already?). This knife is built heavier than the top one, but it's damned tough, and again, you can get it razor sharp and it'll hold that edge for a long time. The bolster and pommel are brass, and it has my name engraved on the blade. The blade looks darker because it's more highly polished, and in fact it's reflecting a dark room.

Both were made, including the sheaths, by my father.
 
2012-10-05 09:20:12 AM  
abhorrent1

>>> OnlyM3: No, you brave moon bats are calling for the murder of a child instead.

Because shooting an defenseless animal from maybe 50 or 100 yards with a high powered rifle is somehow brave?
Who called her brave?

I simply questioned the sanity of calling for the murder of someone you disagree with, especially when that someone is a child.

I question the intelligence of a group who in one breath calls for murder of Limbaugh for implying an adult woman is promiscuous, yet has no problem calling a minor girl whore, coont, etc...

I question the integrity of liberals who spend days defending a fat raging reporter who was the "victim" of a suggestion to get healthy, but then have no qualms about bullying a sick minor.

Some "sociopaths" you've supported.
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2012-10-05 09:22:07 AM  

kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without


People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.
 
2012-10-05 09:22:12 AM  

dittybopper: Mose: I've got an old bone handle carving knife in the farmhouse. I'm quite sure it isn't human bone, but it's one of the best knives own. Carbon steel blade. When I found it, sharpened it and started using it, I wished I hadn't spent as much as I had on my stainless knives with plastic handles.

This two are the best knives I own:

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The top one has a carbon steel blade, and the handle is the antler of a deer I shot many, many years ago. The blade itself was purchased, but it's a quality blade, and it holds an edge quite well, but is also easy to sharpen. The bolster is a nice German silver, and it has my name and the date of the deer kill engraved on the butt of the knife.

The bottom one has a hand-made carbon steel blade made out of O-1 tool steel, and the handle is India stag. It was my first hunting knife, made for me back when I was 14 (has it been 31 years already?). This knife is built heavier than the top one, but it's damned tough, and again, you can get it razor sharp and it'll hold that edge for a long time. The bolster and pommel are brass, and it has my name engraved on the blade. The blade looks darker because it's more highly polished, and in fact it's reflecting a dark room.

Both were made, including the sheaths, by my father.


Nice - I always respect excellence,
 
kab
2012-10-05 09:22:12 AM  
Oooh, is this the thread where republicants fingerway and act like human life is unquestionably sacred, until it's time to throw them needlessly into the middle east, under the guise of 'watering the tree of liberty'?

LMAO.
 
2012-10-05 09:22:20 AM  

dittybopper: Langdon_777: I am a fan of letting anyone become a member of an indigenous group (if they are accepted) but lets keep the hunting to the "damn its hard" level - not night scoping from landrovers.

I'm sort-of down with that, to a point.

I chose to go the "make it damned tough" route for myself. That's because I found it too easy with a scoped .30'06 or a super-fast compound bow. Instead of chasing after bigger and bigger trophies as a method of ramping up the difficulty, I went primitive instead.

That's not to say I advocate that it must be done that way for everyone.

Not everybody has the time, money, or inclination to make hunting as difficult for themselves as possible. Nor should they, necessarily, because then it discourages people from trying it in the first place. If you want to use a high powered rifle with a 3x9 variable range-finding scope, etc., be my guest. So long as the game regulations are written to ensure a viable (and hopefully expanding) game population, I don't even have a problem with people using night vision googles, and hunting from Land Rovers.



Personally, I love sport hunting, for the same reasons you posted above. However, I think if you hunt, its your responsibility to end the animals life in the fastest, most humane way possible. If someone wants to shoot it with flint arrows, they better be able to put that arrow through a tennis ball at hunting range+5 meters. I've spent too many hours fixing up critters that ran into bad hunters to grant moral high ground to anyone based on their tools.

IMHO, a hunter should hunt with whatever gets the job done for him. If you cant shoot a bow, but you can perform outpatient surgery with a bolt action 338, than that's what you should use. 

/not implying that ditty is a bad hunter, just making a point to the antis
//please don't shank me with your wife's sharpened femur. ;)
 
kab
2012-10-05 09:22:49 AM  
fingerwag. bleh.
 
2012-10-05 09:23:45 AM  

dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.


If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....
 
2012-10-05 09:25:36 AM  

SquiggsIN: Only shoot things that are an eminent threat to you or things that you are planning on eating.

Hunting is great so long as you are feeding someone from it.

Hunting for the sake of cutting off a trophy (head) and leaving the carcass to rot is terrible.


Unless you are talking gophers or coyotes leaving meat to rot is illegal pretty much everywhere. If you are caught doing that good luck buying a licence for the next few years ago. Even in an African trophy hunt the meat gets eaten. It is basically a tip to the people running the hunt and you have to pay extra if you want any.
 
2012-10-05 09:25:40 AM  
When you enjoy meat, you enjoy the flavour, the texture, all the little chemical cues that tell you it is satisfying. Killing an animal for that is just something that has to happen that, in our society, is easily overlooked.

When you enjoy hunting, it is impossible to separate that from the act of killing itself. You are literally taking pleasure in ending the life of an animal. And game animals are mammals, usually quite social ones. If you think there's no mental/emotional stuff going on in there worth considering... that's a very convenient and scary assumption.
 
2012-10-05 09:25:55 AM  

kab: it's time to throw them needlessly into the middle east, under the guise of 'watering the tree of liberty'?


I believe that is supposed to be done domestically.

And, there's a bit of spittle on your chin....
 
2012-10-05 09:27:22 AM  

Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....


...when properly regulated...


Whoooosh

 
2012-10-05 09:29:21 AM  

Langdon_777: Nice - I always respect excellence,


He also made my hunting implements:

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He made that bow, but I made the handle, the arrows, and the quiver.  I have replaced the hemp string with a dacron one, in the interest of durability. Doesn't effect how the bow shoots.
 
2012-10-05 09:31:17 AM  

dittybopper: Langdon_777: Nice - I always respect excellence,

He also made my hunting implements:

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He made that bow, but I made the handle, the arrows, and the quiver.  I have replaced the hemp string with a dacron one, in the interest of durability. Doesn't effect how the bow shoots.


Damn those are nice.

Don't get me wrong I once slaughtered reef sharks for no other reason than to attract more reef sharks to kill (I was 11 :p) - alas these days the islands are a national park.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 09:31:25 AM  
I own guns. Rifles. I am trained to use them.
I have no understanding of hunting without the need to feed ones self.
I hear arguments like "it's a challenge to bag a big buk".

REALLY?

I can lay prone about 3/4 of a mile away and sweep an area from my bluff in one of my ghillies.
The animal would not smell, hear, see or sense me in any way shape or form.
It is hardly "challenging" to shoot an animal in this manner.
And by animals this could include others of the human species if so ordered.

There was a specific reason to be trained in this manner of shooting, and hunting for trophies is remarkably absent from the short list of reasons for me to take up my weapon and man a position.

/will never quite get the hunting for shiats-n-giggle or bragging rights thing
 
2012-10-05 09:31:26 AM  
Yeah, that is really sad that a beautiful bear died.
 
2012-10-05 09:31:33 AM  

Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....


Bison are not endangered! The herds that settlers saw on the plains was the product of an Indian die off. Read 1491. There's no way we could have those herds now on the worlds bread basket
 
2012-10-05 09:32:27 AM  

Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....


Are you talking about that Bison that's nine bucks a pound at the store? Damn good burger, maybe I will grab some for the weekend.  Glad my demand fuels their recovery as a species.
 
2012-10-05 09:36:47 AM  

OnlyM3:
I simply questioned the sanity of calling for the murder of someone you disagree with, especially when that someone is a child.

I'm pretty confident her parents are just as despicable. After all, killing for fun is learned,not innate.

I question the intelligence of a group who in one breath calls for murder of Limbaugh for implying an adult woman is promiscuous, yet has no problem calling a minor girl whore, coont, etc...
Rush Limbaugh is also something that this world could do without. That being said, I'm willing to let him die of natural causes. He'll probably suffer longer that way.

I question the integrity of liberals who spend days defending a fat raging reporter who was the "victim" of a suggestion to get healthy, but then have no qualms about bullying a sick minor.
The reporter needed no defending. She defended herself just fine. The sick minor is carrying a high-powered rifle shooting at an animal that was, right up until the point where he got killed, probably just shiatting in the woods.

Some "sociopaths" you've supported.
You'll rant and rave on the internet about the right of children to bear arms, but claim "strong national defense" while you vote for politicians that lie us into wars, claim "fiscal conservatism" for supposedly conservative administrations that have driven up both the deficit and the debt in every republican administration in the last 20+ years, and claim "family values" for clergy that molest children, televangelists that snort meth off the asses of gay hookers, former house speakers that dump hospitalized, terminally ill ex-wives, and scream "character" while voting for President I Wasn't the CEO of Bain Capital and Vice President I Never Asked for Stimulus Money.

Spare the rest of us the credibility lecture.
 
2012-10-05 09:37:04 AM  
Dittybopper
If you like wildlife, you should be encouraging sport hunting, not denigrating it.
It's not that I like the wildlife for any reason other than grub
but I dislike people
Sport hunting is a groovy idea when it's done by folks like you and I
bow, blackpowder or even just dogs and a knife.
We can make these tools and we've earned the right through practice and training to use them.
I have no problem using technology to gather food on the hoof, that's why it is there.
I dig the make-a-wish trips that go with crazy ted, because they are using the whole critter
and I understand removing extra animals because there is no natural predation to keep 'em in check

What I don't like is the incapable being able to end something for no other reason than to end it
that's like the live-shot, internet hunting shiat. Or that fat kid who killed the giant, tame pig with a .50
that stuff chaps my ass

it's kinda funny that my comment got me painted as a critter lover
meat is meat
long pork would cook just like aything porcine
 
2012-10-05 09:37:09 AM  

OnlyM3: abhorrent1

>>> OnlyM3: No, you brave moon bats are calling for the murder of a child instead.

Because shooting an defenseless animal from maybe 50 or 100 yards with a high powered rifle is somehow brave? Who called her brave?

I simply questioned the sanity of calling for the murder of someone you disagree with, especially when that someone is a child.

I question the intelligence of a group who in one breath calls for murder of Limbaugh for implying an adult woman is promiscuous, yet has no problem calling a minor girl whore, coont, etc...

I question the integrity of liberals who spend days defending a fat raging reporter who was the "victim" of a suggestion to get healthy, but then have no qualms about bullying a sick minor.

Some "sociopaths" you've supported.
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I both agree with you, and disagree with you, AND have some complaints...

First, i agree with you about the girl and your view in those regards

I still want to murder Rush, just because his voice and his views and attitudes make me want to stab him in the face... He's a stain on society and long overdue of a massive coronary...

Third... WTF is wrong with Kerry in that picture? He was in the Army for F- sake, he should know how to hold a gun! Was that just an "action" photo op?
 
2012-10-05 09:37:13 AM  
Well that should make a really nice rug...
 
2012-10-05 09:38:28 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: seniorgato: You know, you go hunt a deer, you kill it, and process it. Then eat it.
Killing a bear... You get, what? A rug?
I mean, yes, if the bear is a danger, that's one thing. But I sincerely doubt a girl with a heart and liver problem was out hunting a man eater..

Wasting the meat is a crime in every state. In many places you have to pack out it before capes/antlers. Big game hunting is the largest source of protein food banks have.


I really didn't think bear meat was edible. I stand corrected.
 
2012-10-05 09:39:36 AM  

Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....


Buffalo were *MARKET* hunted to near extermination, not *SPORT* hunted. They were hunted for their hides and meat which were sold for a profit, not because people enjoyed hunting them.

Same with the passenger pigeon. They were exterminated for profit.

The same thing *ALMOST* happened with black bear, whitetail deer, and wild turkeys in the US: Before 1900, they were hunted not for sport, but largely for subsistence and market reasons. What happened was that people who enjoyed the sport of hunting put a stop to legal market and unregulated subsistence hunting. Since then, the population of whitetails has rebounded from a population of about 500,000 total to 25 to 30 million, just as many as were here during pre-Columbian times. Similarly, black bear and wild turkey populations have greatly rebounded.

If you look at the history of gun making in Appalachia, you can see this happen: Early guns (late 1700s, early 1800s) were in calibers appropriate for big game: .54, .50, .45. By the late 1800's, all the big game had been hunted out, with the largest animal left being wild pigs, so the calibers dropped down to .40, .36, and even .32 caliber, because you don't need a big lead ball to shoot rabbits, squirrels, etc., which was pretty much the only game left. They had hunted the big game out for subsistence (ie., hunting for food) and market reasons.
 
2012-10-05 09:42:39 AM  
I have always tempered my killing with respect for the game pursued. I see the animal not only as a target but as a living creature with more freedom than I will ever have. I take that life if I can, with regret as well as joy, and with the sure knowledge that nature's ways of fang and claw or exposure and starvation are a far crueler fate than I bestow - Fred Bear

That about sums it up for me.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 09:42:57 AM  

seniorgato: Mid_mo_mad_man: seniorgato: You know, you go hunt a deer, you kill it, and process it. Then eat it.
Killing a bear... You get, what? A rug?
I mean, yes, if the bear is a danger, that's one thing. But I sincerely doubt a girl with a heart and liver problem was out hunting a man eater..

Wasting the meat is a crime in every state. In many places you have to pack out it before capes/antlers. Big game hunting is the largest source of protein food banks have.

I really didn't think bear meat was edible. I stand corrected.


Eat bear meat?!?!?!?!
BLEH
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2012-10-05 09:43:26 AM  

dittybopper: Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....

Buffalo were *MARKET* hunted to near extermination, not *SPORT* hunted. They were hunted for their hides and meat which were sold for a profit, not because people enjoyed hunting them.

Same with the passenger pigeon. They were exterminated for profit.

The same thing *ALMOST* happened with black bear, whitetail deer, and wild turkeys in the US: Before 1900, they were hunted not for sport, but largely for subsistence and market reasons. What happened was that people who enjoyed the sport of hunting put a stop to legal market and unregulated subsistence hunting. Since then, the population of whitetails has rebounded from a population of about 500,000 total to 25 to 30 million, just as many as were here during pre-Columbian times. Similarly, black bear and wild turkey populations have greatly rebounded.

If you look at the history of gun making in Appalachia, you can see this happen: Early guns (late 1700s, early 1800s) were in calibers appropriate for big game: .54, .50, .45. By the late 1800's, all the big game had been hunted out, with the largest animal left being wild pigs, so the calibers dropped down to .40, .36, and even .32 caliber, because you don't need a big lead ball to shoot rabbits, squirrels, etc., which was pretty much the only game left. They had hunted the big game out for subsistence (ie., hunting for food) and market reasons.


I really want the lion hunters to use an Onyx knife and that is all - eat it or be eaten, it doesn't bother me.

But please stop calling modern hunting 'hunting'.
 
2012-10-05 09:44:21 AM  
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2012-10-05 09:46:54 AM  

Just Arrived: I have always tempered my killing with respect for the game pursued. I see the animal not only as a target but as a living creature with more freedom than I will ever have. I take that life if I can, with regret as well as joy, and with the sure knowledge that nature's ways of fang and claw or exposure and starvation are a far crueler fate than I bestow - Fred Bear

That about sums it up for me.


Cept if we ALL do it. I say make hunting dangerous, to the hunter (I look fwd to fark threads on dead onyx knife hunting peeps, but also the celebrations of the truly excellent hunters, who not only survive but come back with something to eat.)
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 09:47:08 AM  

NannyStatePark: Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....

Are you talking about that Bison that's nine bucks a pound at the store? Damn good burger, maybe I will grab some for the weekend.  Glad my demand fuels their recovery as a species.


I will join you in a bison burger, my friend.
Cool thing: bison is BETTER for you than beef!
Bison has less fat, calories & cholesterol compared to beef, chicken, pork and salmon.
And, it has more iron - so is great for women.
 
2012-10-05 09:51:23 AM  
Ok, i'm going to confess something...

Other than fulfilling my dying daughter's (or son's) wish, or for survival, i would not hunt and kill a bear.

I have what some people consider this weird ethic when it comes to certain meat...

I won't eat predators unless i'm surviving... which in the few situations i've gone out on survival expedition, the only predator i ate was a snake i caught...

But my wife has tried to get me to eat gator and shark and bear, and i won't

My view on that is this

If you remove humans and their tools from the ecosystem, those animals are at the top. The evolved to be that way and they belong there. It's the higher order of things. Without tools, I am every bit as much food as the limping gazelle in the herd... So out of respect, i don't hunt and kill predators when I am on the top.

But as i said, there will be a few exceptions to that rule... survival and now the dying wish of my kids...

And i would never advocate the murder of a child (leaving abortion out of this because that's a can of worms i'm not willing to open up)
 
2012-10-05 09:51:38 AM  

gja: NannyStatePark: Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....

Are you talking about that Bison that's nine bucks a pound at the store? Damn good burger, maybe I will grab some for the weekend.  Glad my demand fuels their recovery as a species.

I will join you in a bison burger, my friend.
Cool thing: bison is BETTER for you than beef!
Bison has less fat, calories & cholesterol compared to beef, chicken, pork and salmon.
And, it has more iron - so is great for women.



And, it has more iron - so is great for women.

Eggs, cashews and prune juice - bugger your slaughter, the Mother provides.
 
2012-10-05 09:54:10 AM  

seniorgato:
I really didn't think bear meat was edible. I stand corrected.


Any time anyone says game meat is "gamey", it's a safe bet that it was poorly shot or poorly processed. Prime rib would taste "gamey" if it were aged too long, or contaminated by feces or hair. Bear meat tends to sour quickly because there's so much fat and fur holding heat in. When it's been cared for properly, you probably couldn't tell it wasn't beef. Nuthin's better than moose, but bear is pretty good.
 
2012-10-05 10:01:34 AM  

Langdon_777: I really want the lion hunters to use an Onyx knife and that is all - eat it or be eaten, it doesn't bother me.

But please stop calling modern hunting 'hunting'.


Onyx doesn't make a good knife. Obsidian does. The bottom two pieces here are obsidian, and were supposed to be a knife blade, until I farked up and broke it, so I turned it into a arrowhead and a spear point:

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As for modern hunters, what is your point? Don't forget that for ancient man, that was largely his "job". He could devote the time and effort to becoming skilled at it because he wasn't punching a clock, and his seasons were unlimited. Also, his life, and that of his family, depended on his ability.

Today, most people don't have that amount of time to put into it, and to be honest, even with modern equipment, hunting wild animals is still hard*.

I *REFUSE* to play into the politics of division. Just because I chose a certain path, doesn't mean that others must follow, or that I am somehow superior to those who chose to use a modern rifle and a tree stand (or whatever). They are also hunters, just hunters using different, but equally valid, methods. Like Benjamin Franklin once said, "We must all hang together, or we will most assuredly hand separately".


*Depending on the species, of course.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:15 AM  
The Grim Reaper accepts no substitutes, girly. Your sympathetic magic will not work.
 
2012-10-05 10:05:19 AM  
Nonsense, they don't even have guns in the UK.
 
2012-10-05 10:06:38 AM  
Oh, almost forgot

SHAKETHATBEAR
 
2012-10-05 10:11:47 AM  
members.iinet.net.au
Congratulations on killing something before you die...?
 
2012-10-05 10:12:11 AM  

Langdon_777: dittybopper: Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....

Buffalo were *MARKET* hunted to near extermination, not *SPORT* hunted. They were hunted for their hides and meat which were sold for a profit, not because people enjoyed hunting them.

Same with the passenger pigeon. They were exterminated for profit.

The same thing *ALMOST* happened with black bear, whitetail deer, and wild turkeys in the US: Before 1900, they were hunted not for sport, but largely for subsistence and market reasons. What happened was that people who enjoyed the sport of hunting put a stop to legal market and unregulated subsistence hunting. Since then, the population of whitetails has rebounded from a population of about 500,000 total to 25 to 30 million, just as many as were here during pre-Columbian times. Similarly, black bear and wild turkey populations have greatly rebounded.

If you look at the history of gun making in Appalachia, you can see this happen: Early guns (late 1700s, early 1800s) were in calibers appropriate for big game: .54, .50, .45. By the late 1800's, all the big game had been hunted out, with the largest animal left being wild pigs, so the calibers dropped down to .40, .36, and even .32 caliber, because you don't need a big lead ball to shoot rabbits, squirrels, etc., which was pretty much the only game left. They had hunted the big game out for subsistence (ie., hunting for food) and market reasons.

I really want the lion hunters to use an Onyx knife and that is all - eat it or be eaten, it doesn't bother ...


you realize that even the San tribe of africa, a tribal society unchanged for thousands of years use bows with lethal poison tipped arrows?

In south america, the Huacharia another H/G society also uses poison in rivers and streams to kill massive amounts of fish for their village...

The rifle is the evolution of the hunter's tool... We evolved to use tools to make ourselves more efficient hunters, it's only natural that our tools evolve for the same reasons

Like Ditty, i too like to challenge myself, but my game during those challenges are much smaller than a dear or elk.

One of my favorite things to do is make and hunt with my own primitive hunting tools...

I've made and used an Atlatl, and a sling, I am working on a hand made bow, the wood just got done aging, now i need to split the log and start cutting it down...

Ditty, if you've done this let me know, any tips, tricks or advice would be appreciated...

My next project is a hardware store crossbow... not for primitive purposes, but for emergency preparedness reasons
 
2012-10-05 10:13:44 AM  

DempseySR26: Libtards don't know hunting bears is for population control. I'm shocked shocked I tell youl


You can understand that something is necessary and still show empathy for the creature that died.

Well, at least liberal can feel empathy. . .
 
2012-10-05 10:17:35 AM  

SpectroBoy: DempseySR26: Libtards don't know hunting bears is for population control. I'm shocked shocked I tell youl

You can understand that something is necessary and still show empathy for the creature that died.

Well, at least liberal can feel empathy. . .


Yup, because only Redneck Republicans would ever hunt. All Liberals are far too cultured and distinguished to indulge in such baseless savagery.
 
2012-10-05 10:18:29 AM  

CeroX: Ditty, if you've done this let me know, any tips, tricks or advice would be appreciated...


I can help you with the arrows, but my father made my bow, so I can't be much help there.

I have made an atlatl, but unfortunately you can't hunt with one in NYS. If you could, I'd be practicing with it every farkin' day it isn't raining or snowing, just to be good enough for hunting season.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 10:20:23 AM  

Langdon_777: gja: NannyStatePark: Langdon_777: dittybopper: kregh99: /people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

If it were not for hunters - there would be thousands of them, yes some starving and dying, but thousands. I heard the USA use to have Buffalo....

Are you talking about that Bison that's nine bucks a pound at the store? Damn good burger, maybe I will grab some for the weekend.  Glad my demand fuels their recovery as a species.

I will join you in a bison burger, my friend.
Cool thing: bison is BETTER for you than beef!
Bison has less fat, calories & cholesterol compared to beef, chicken, pork and salmon.
And, it has more iron - so is great for women.


And, it has more iron - so is great for women.

Eggs, cashews and prune juice - bugger your slaughter, the Mother provides.


Eggs is slaughter too, pal. You are advocating the destruction of possible embryos.
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Oh, BTW....egg yolks have MUCH cholesterol, so you fail.....
 
2012-10-05 10:20:34 AM  

GoldDude: [members.iinet.net.au image 500x605]
Congratulations on killing something before you die...?


Thanks!

It gives one a good feeling to have participated in nature, instead of merely observing it.
 
2012-10-05 10:21:28 AM  

OnlyM3: Who called her brave?


I did and I stand behind it. Most 11 year old girls couldn't be DRAGGED in to woods full of bears. This girl went looking for a bear. that is farkin brave for an 11 year old.

Shiat, most adults would lack the balls, panic, and miss the shot. (buck fever)
 
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