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(Daily Mail)   11-year-old girl who needs a heart and liver transplant can't contain her joy after killing 335-pound bear on hunting trip. Too bad he didn't have a heart and a liver in his pic-a-nic basket   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 385
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2012-10-05 08:24:32 AM

dittybopper: CeroX: You know, i still haven't gotten flintknapping down, even after we had that discussion a few months back or sometime last year...

Still use bone arrowheads...

The distaffbopper is getting her hip replaced in a bit more than a week. I asked the doctor if I could have the femoral ball they are cutting out because it would make a dandy tool for soft-hammer percussion knapping.

The answer was, unfortunately, no.


I don't know if that was an awesome or disturbing request....

How did the mrs feel about that? wouldn't it be weird to watch your hubby use your own hip bone like a hammer?
 
2012-10-05 08:25:21 AM

HotWingConspiracy: sendtodave: HotWingConspiracy: Ask anyone if they'd rather have a bear, or a diseased, depressing child. She's a total money sink. The bear is just going to be out there doing bear stuff, pretty self-sufficient.

Fair point. And in some places you could put the bear in a cage, and have people pay to feed it peanuts or something. Easy money.

Try doing that with a kid.

Welllll....

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2012-10-05 08:26:20 AM

dittybopper: Langdon_777: Tat'dGreaser: Heh, I love people who can't wrap their heads around humans hunting animals.

As ex-miltary I prefer real sport - hunting humans - but as its immoral and illegal I avoid such pleasures and play the playstation instead.

If you want real sport, hunt dangerous game like bears and wild boar with primitive equipment, and don't cheat by using things like tree stands.

I only hunt primitive (flintlock rifle for a gun, hickory flatbow for bow season). I'm not *QUITE* there yet, but eventually I'm going to go with arrowheads I knapped myself:

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That head isn't big enough to be legal for deer or bear in NYS (though historically Indians used heads that size), but I plan on trying it out on a coyote or other medium sized critter if I happen to run across one this year.


I have been advocating that if the local indiginous community wants to hunt rare things then GO FOR IT, but you cannot use your landrovers or your rifles. Bah if you want to hunt rare predators then fine, you can only use a stone knife, not even a spear.
 
2012-10-05 08:26:37 AM

HotWingConspiracy: sendtodave: HotWingConspiracy: Ask anyone if they'd rather have a bear, or a diseased, depressing child. She's a total money sink. The bear is just going to be out there doing bear stuff, pretty self-sufficient.

Fair point. And in some places you could put the bear in a cage, and have people pay to feed it peanuts or something. Easy money.

Try doing that with a kid.

Welllll....

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"Look Mama! A Bagel!"
 
2012-10-05 08:26:46 AM

Joce678: for good or for awesome: Good lord. I'm always surprised at the number of people on Fark that think killing an animal like this is a horrible tragedy. None of you need to eat meat. You do it because you like it. If killing this bear gives this little girl and her family some comfort good for them. As long as the animal is not endangered have at it.

Animals like bears live in families, have relationships. Just saying.


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2012-10-05 08:30:36 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: Joce678: for good or for awesome: Good lord. I'm always surprised at the number of people on Fark that think killing an animal like this is a horrible tragedy. None of you need to eat meat. You do it because you like it. If killing this bear gives this little girl and her family some comfort good for them. As long as the animal is not endangered have at it.

Animals like bears live in families, have relationships. Just saying.

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Oh, bother. Anthropomorphizing bears, again.
 
2012-10-05 08:30:55 AM
I find it hard to believe no one posted this....
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2012-10-05 08:33:21 AM
Look at the top 5 "Smartest" comments....you f*ckers are sick.
 
2012-10-05 08:33:27 AM

Big Ramifications: gmoney


No I'm not pulling your leg just pointing out what a twat you are being
 
2012-10-05 08:35:45 AM

The Muthaship: Look at the top 5 "Smartest" comments....you f*ckers are sick.


AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT BEAR KILLING SOCIOPATHS
 
2012-10-05 08:36:10 AM

CeroX: dittybopper: CeroX: You know, i still haven't gotten flintknapping down, even after we had that discussion a few months back or sometime last year...

Still use bone arrowheads...

The distaffbopper is getting her hip replaced in a bit more than a week. I asked the doctor if I could have the femoral ball they are cutting out because it would make a dandy tool for soft-hammer percussion knapping.

The answer was, unfortunately, no.

I don't know if that was an awesome or disturbing request....

How did the mrs feel about that? wouldn't it be weird to watch your hubby use your own hip bone like a hammer?


We've been married for 18 years, and together for 20. She is no longer surprised when I do stuff like that.
 
2012-10-05 08:37:05 AM
Everyone is mad at her for trophy hunting. I get that. But she had to kill something in order to steal its essence and prolong her own unholy existence. Perhaps she should have killed a drifter for his organs so that she didn't have to sustain herself on souls of the innocent, but I for one applaud her for avoiding human casualties as much as she could.
 
2012-10-05 08:38:05 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: NannyStatePark: I name my lobsters, so I must be really messed up. The waitstaff at Red Lobster think its hilariousplay along with my lame joke because they think they'll get a better tip then make fun of me after I leave.

FTFY


Who cares? At least I'm not some douchebag vegan, thus rendering me far less likely to be mocked by anyone whose opinion actually matters. Of course, I'm out of high school, sofa king what if some waiter laughs at my tired old ass?
 
2012-10-05 08:38:32 AM

Dafodude: I love hunting as much as the next guy, but this is BS. You hunt for food.

It's really time to cull the herd. Of humans.

This is right up next to people who slaughter doe for the hell of it. I'm pretty sure that out of any thing in this world that upsets me, child abuse/neglect is just about the only thing worse.


...So you do know that bear is both edible and quite tasty, right? Not to mention, bear permits are issued for hunting to cull the population as they become pest animals that get into garbage and destroy property, right?
 
2012-10-05 08:40:02 AM
The company I work for happens to be in the same building as the North Dakota Outdoor Adventure Foundation.

From their website:

The Outdoor Adventure Foundation, Inc. provides hunting and fishing adventures for children under the age of 18 and young adults under the age of 25 with cancer or other life threatening illness.

We also provide hunting and fishing adventures for disabled veterans under the age of 40 that are wheelchair bound caused by injury during active service or who have lost a limb during active service.

The hunts will include big game hunts such as deer, elk, moose, bear and also small game including duck, goose, pheasant and quail. The fishing trips are fresh and salt water species of many kinds including bass, walleye, northern pike, muskie, salmon, halibut trout and others.


I have seen some of these kids who are seriously ill to terminally ill and as long as the kids parents get the right hunting licenses (i.e. LEGAL to hunt certain animals), then I say more power to them.
 
2012-10-05 08:41:34 AM
'When I looked through that scope I didn't see it as a bear, I saw it as a ... chance to demonstrate the greater appreciation I have of the preciousness of life.
 
2012-10-05 08:41:49 AM

The Muthaship: Look at the top 5 "Smartest" comments....you f*ckers are sick.

~
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I noticed that, too. It's obvious what all the smart, well-argued smart comments are. But check all the popularity-contest yaaaaaaaaaaaay "smart" comments that people voted for.



It's like watching a really old episode of Oprah. Where they'd wheel out an arguing couple, but the chick would always win the "debate" coz yaaaaaaaaaaaaay! All the morons in the audience got their clapping on.
 
2012-10-05 08:42:35 AM

BenJammin: 'When I looked through that scope I didn't see it as a bear, I saw it as a ... chance to demonstrate the greater appreciation I have of the preciousness of life.


She is a child. Give it a rest. She isn't a politician or some college grad. You never said stupid shiat as a child?
 
2012-10-05 08:43:42 AM

dittybopper: CeroX: dittybopper: CeroX: You know, i still haven't gotten flintknapping down, even after we had that discussion a few months back or sometime last year...

Still use bone arrowheads...

The distaffbopper is getting her hip replaced in a bit more than a week. I asked the doctor if I could have the femoral ball they are cutting out because it would make a dandy tool for soft-hammer percussion knapping.

The answer was, unfortunately, no.

I don't know if that was an awesome or disturbing request....

How did the mrs feel about that? wouldn't it be weird to watch your hubby use your own hip bone like a hammer?

We've been married for 18 years, and together for 20. She is no longer surprised when I do stuff like that.


I don't know, i think i would be disturbed if i saw someone using my own bone as a tool...

It's practical sure... but still... I would look at it and say "I can feel that, i just know it"

But I digress...

My next big project is to attempt to make a functioning, usable, crossbow from materials easily gained from the hardware store...
 
2012-10-05 08:45:59 AM
Who knew there were so many vegans on fark. Otherwise it would mean that there are a lot of meat eatin, leather wearin, milk drinking hypocrits giving a dieing girl a hard time because she is not discusted by where her food comes from.
 
2012-10-05 08:46:38 AM
her food cums from bear??
 
2012-10-05 08:46:56 AM

Langdon_777: I have been advocating that if the local indiginous community wants to hunt rare things then GO FOR IT, but you cannot use your landrovers or your rifles. Bah if you want to hunt rare predators then fine, you can only use a stone knife, not even a spear.


That's not "fair". Let them use woomera and spears that they made, in the old fashioned way. There is a wealth of knowledge for them both in books and online to learn techniques on how to do that if they haven't retained that knowledge in their culture.

Ideally, you'd set up permitting system, with tags for each rare animal, and the money that you generate from selling permits and tags would be plowed back into monitoring game populations. Make the penalties for possessing an animal without a tag stiff, and the price and requirements for getting a tag reasonable. Limit the number of tags based upon population of the game animal. Set limits on the size of the animal taken.

That even works with modern hunting methods, btw. You *CAN* sport hunt relatively rare species in a sustainable manner, and the best part is that the people who are hunting them will be paying for their conservation.
 
2012-10-05 08:47:14 AM
Dinner table conversation at a neighbor's that we still laugh about:

My cute little daughter: "Are we having bear meat? That's my favorite."

Shocked hostess: "WHAT?! NO!"

"Deer?"

"No!"

"Moose?"

"No, no!"

(Long pause with a furrowed brow) "Well what, then?"
 
2012-10-05 08:50:03 AM

MasterPython: Who knew there were so many vegans on fark. Otherwise it would mean that there are a lot of meat eatin, leather wearin, milk drinking hypocrits giving a dieing girl a hard time because she is not discusted by where her food comes from.


More like she is too young to ever know - she is going to die innocent - her folks on the other hnd are going to be hunted for at least a life or 2.

And I am not a vegan - I am more than willing to have a friendship with our fellow beings, we protect your herd, you give us some milk (and cheese, mostly the cheese, mmm Jarlsberg.)

Oh and my docs are vegan approved :p It isn't as hard as you think to luv.
 
2012-10-05 08:50:05 AM

Oblio13: Dinner table conversation at a neighbor's that we still laugh about:

My cute little daughter: "Are we having bear meat? That's my favorite."

Shocked hostess: "WHAT?! NO!"

"Deer?"

"No!"

"Moose?"

"No, no!"

(Long pause with a furrowed brow) "Well what, then?"


Answer: "No honey, the neighbors are feeding us amonia based red slurry!"
 
2012-10-05 08:50:25 AM

BenJammin: 'When I looked through that scope I didn't see it as a bear, I saw it as a ... chance to demonstrate the greater appreciation I have of the preciousness of life.


There are none who have a better appreciation for the preciousness and impermanence of life than those who regularly undertake to end it.

Trust me.
 
2012-10-05 08:50:51 AM
Why should a bear die because that girl is dying? It's not going to help her not die.
 
2012-10-05 08:53:22 AM

dittybopper: Langdon_777: I have been advocating that if the local indiginous community wants to hunt rare things then GO FOR IT, but you cannot use your landrovers or your rifles. Bah if you want to hunt rare predators then fine, you can only use a stone knife, not even a spear.

That's not "fair". Let them use woomera and spears that they made, in the old fashioned way. There is a wealth of knowledge for them both in books and online to learn techniques on how to do that if they haven't retained that knowledge in their culture.

Ideally, you'd set up permitting system, with tags for each rare animal, and the money that you generate from selling permits and tags would be plowed back into monitoring game populations. Make the penalties for possessing an animal without a tag stiff, and the price and requirements for getting a tag reasonable. Limit the number of tags based upon population of the game animal. Set limits on the size of the animal taken.

That even works with modern hunting methods, btw. You *CAN* sport hunt relatively rare species in a sustainable manner, and the best part is that the people who are hunting them will be paying for their conservation.


Yeap.

I guess the troglodytes do need sport too.

I am a fan of letting anyone become a member of an indigenous group (if they are accepted) but lets keep the hunting to the "damn its hard" level - not night scoping from landrovers.
 
2012-10-05 08:53:42 AM
How did she kill it? Gave it indigestion?
 
2012-10-05 08:53:55 AM

CeroX: I don't know, i think i would be disturbed if i saw someone using my own bone as a tool...

It's practical sure... but still... I would look at it and say "I can feel that, i just know it"

But I digress...

My next big project is to attempt to make a functioning, usable, crossbow from materials easily gained from the hardware store...


Actually, my idea was to make it into a knife handle of some sort, where it wouldn't have been quite as obviously a human bone. It was my father who suggested using it as a soft hammer.

/Once told my wife that an MRI of her ass looked like a nice steak.
 
2012-10-05 08:54:46 AM
REO-Weedwagon
Trophy hunters are sociopathic
and
doglover
Little monster.
and
Buffet
Fark that whore!
and
Krellius
At least the little coont is dying.
and
jmr61
Too bad the little coont didn't die
and
3rdtimearound
blame the bloodthirsty, cruel little coont
and
Langdon_777
Shoot her, shoot her NOW!
and
abhorrent1
should have dropped her in the woods and hunted her.
and


The tollerant left once again setting the example we should all follow.
* calls for murder of a child
* insult towards a child
* death threats against a child.
* bullying a child

Funny thing is, I recognize several of these hypocrites from "rush called some girl a name" and "White knight the Fat weather reporter" threads doing full whargarble when far less was done.


sendtodave
>>> The Muthaship: Look at the top 5 "Smartest" comments....you f*ckers are sick.

AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT BEAR KILLING SOCIOPATHS

No, you brave moon bats are calling for the murder of a child instead.
 
2012-10-05 08:55:42 AM

oryx: Why should a bear die because that girl is dying? It's not going to help her not die.


The state wants a certain number of them killed because they are pests. Why do you care who does it?
 
2012-10-05 08:57:27 AM
Only shoot things that are an eminent threat to you or things that you are planning on eating.

Hunting is great so long as you are feeding someone from it.

Hunting for the sake of cutting off a trophy (head) and leaving the carcass to rot is terrible.
 
2012-10-05 08:57:32 AM

dittybopper: CeroX: I don't know, i think i would be disturbed if i saw someone using my own bone as a tool...

It's practical sure... but still... I would look at it and say "I can feel that, i just know it"

But I digress...

My next big project is to attempt to make a functioning, usable, crossbow from materials easily gained from the hardware store...

Actually, my idea was to make it into a knife handle of some sort, where it wouldn't have been quite as obviously a human bone. It was my father who suggested using it as a soft hammer.

/Once told my wife that an MRI of her ass looked like a nice steak.


I've got an old bone handle carving knife in the farmhouse. I'm quite sure it isn't human bone, but it's one of the best knives own. Carbon steel blade. When I found it, sharpened it and started using it, I wished I hadn't spent as much as I had on my stainless knives with plastic handles.
 
2012-10-05 08:58:13 AM
Regulated sport hunting is perhaps the best means of conversation we have. Plus bear is fine table fare. Just cook well.
 
2012-10-05 08:58:48 AM
Submitted this story 3 days ago, with video...

Anyway, I just don't get this story. She is ill and facing death if she does not get her transplants and her wish was to kill a bear?

I don't know how that's suppose to make her feel better...
 
2012-10-05 08:59:09 AM

OnlyM3: No, you brave moon bats are calling for the murder of a child instead.

Because shooting an defenseless animal from maybe 50 or 100 yards with a high powered rifle is somehow brave?
 
2012-10-05 08:59:43 AM

OnlyM3: REO-Weedwagon
Trophy hunters are sociopathicand
doglover
Little monster.and
Buffet
Fark that whore!and
Krellius
At least the little coont is dying.and
jmr61
Too bad the little coont didn't dieand
3rdtimearound
blame the bloodthirsty, cruel little coont and
Langdon_777
Shoot her, shoot her NOW!and
abhorrent1
should have dropped her in the woods and hunted her.and


The tollerant left once again setting the example we should all follow.
* calls for murder of a child
* insult towards a child
* death threats against a child.
* bullying a child

Funny thing is, I recognize several of these hypocrites from "rush called some girl a name" and "White knight the Fat weather reporter" threads doing full whargarble when far less was done.


sendtodave
>>> The Muthaship: Look at the top 5 "Smartest" comments....you f*ckers are sick.

AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT BEAR KILLING SOCIOPATHS
No, you brave moon bats are calling for the murder of a child instead.


You are funny *hugs*
 
2012-10-05 09:00:27 AM

Langdon_777: I am a fan of letting anyone become a member of an indigenous group (if they are accepted) but lets keep the hunting to the "damn its hard" level - not night scoping from landrovers.


I'm sort-of down with that, to a point.

I chose to go the "make it damned tough" route for myself. That's because I found it too easy with a scoped .30'06 or a super-fast compound bow. Instead of chasing after bigger and bigger trophies as a method of ramping up the difficulty, I went primitive instead.

That's not to say I advocate that it must be done that way for everyone.

Not everybody has the time, money, or inclination to make hunting as difficult for themselves as possible. Nor should they, necessarily, because then it discourages people from trying it in the first place. If you want to use a high powered rifle with a 3x9 variable range-finding scope, etc., be my guest. So long as the game regulations are written to ensure a viable (and hopefully expanding) game population, I don't even have a problem with people using night vision googles, and hunting from Land Rovers.
 
2012-10-05 09:01:24 AM

cassanovascotian: that's farked up.

I mean, I get eating meat -top carnivore and all.
and I get people that hunt for food -native people that needed to, and used the whole animal and such.
and I get that if you need to eat, and need to hunt for the food, then you gotta kill animals. Cool.

but killing animals for fun. That I don't get.


In her case it may be about bravery and taking control. She is a victim of fate in many ways (poor kid), but for ONE day she was the alpha, the top predator, and the brave conquering hero.

Also, as a hunter, I can assure you there is a very primal pleasure in stalking and killing your own food. It's the closest most modern people come to living like a hunter gatherer and some part of our brains are just plain wired for it.

Still, I feel bad about the bear.
 
kab
2012-10-05 09:03:36 AM
farking hick.
 
2012-10-05 09:04:48 AM
maybe the bear had a better heart. at least he doesn't carry firearms
 
2012-10-05 09:04:51 AM

dittybopper: Langdon_777: I am a fan of letting anyone become a member of an indigenous group (if they are accepted) but lets keep the hunting to the "damn its hard" level - not night scoping from landrovers.

I'm sort-of down with that, to a point.

I chose to go the "make it damned tough" route for myself. That's because I found it too easy with a scoped .30'06 or a super-fast compound bow. Instead of chasing after bigger and bigger trophies as a method of ramping up the difficulty, I went primitive instead.

That's not to say I advocate that it must be done that way for everyone.

Not everybody has the time, money, or inclination to make hunting as difficult for themselves as possible. Nor should they, necessarily, because then it discourages people from trying it in the first place. If you want to use a high powered rifle with a 3x9 variable range-finding scope, etc., be my guest. So long as the game regulations are written to ensure a viable (and hopefully expanding) game population, I don't even have a problem with people using night vision googles, and hunting from Land Rovers.


Those later (ignorant) peeps (f*cks) need to learn a thing or two about - Challenges...

Do we really want to have more 'Dick Cheneys' in the world? The whole hunting pheasants in an enclosed space (to say nothing of face shooting.)
 
2012-10-05 09:07:44 AM

OnlyM3: No, you brave moon bats are calling for the murder of a child instead.


Hey, don't look at me, I support the little sociopath.
 
2012-10-05 09:08:57 AM

SpectroBoy: Still, I feel bad about the bear.


I really think this is the crux of it.

People here are empathizing more with the bear than with the girl-child.

That's... kinda scary, actually.
 
2012-10-05 09:09:11 AM
Libtards don't know hunting bears is for population control. I'm shocked shocked I tell youl
 
2012-10-05 09:09:34 AM
Usually when a kid has a life threatening condition I feel some empathy. Not here. I see a spoiled waste of meat using up valuable oxygen.
 
2012-10-05 09:09:48 AM
You know, you go hunt a deer, you kill it, and process it. Then eat it.
Killing a bear... You get, what? A rug?
I mean, yes, if the bear is a danger, that's one thing. But I sincerely doubt a girl with a heart and liver problem was out hunting a man eater..
 
2012-10-05 09:11:51 AM
There is no bigotry like that towards anything perceived as country, redneck or white trash. Just compare this to a Honey Boo Boo thread, its the same foaming at the mouth hate spew she gets.
 
2012-10-05 09:12:54 AM

DempseySR26: Libtards don't know hunting bears is for population control. I'm shocked shocked I tell youl


Oh, come on, you can do better than that.

Try "liberals don't value human life, think people should be subservient to animals" or some such.
 
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