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2012-10-05 08:45:16 AM  
Yet another thing where Romney believes one thing one moment and the complete opposite the next. It's obviously worked well for him in the type of business world/environment where he made millions no matter the consequences to others, but it does not work so well in leading the government of the people, by the people, for the people. Does this man have any core beliefs other than "I want money and power"?
 
2012-10-05 09:00:03 AM  
"It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that."

Then what exactly were you trying to say Mitt? I think you said exactly what you meant to say. You regret it now only because it revealed you to be the elitist jerk that you are.
 
2012-10-05 09:03:25 AM  

CruiserTwelve: "It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that."

Then what exactly were you trying to say Mitt? I think you said exactly what you meant to say. You regret it now only because it revealed you to be the elitist jerk that you are.


If he actually thought he could state it more clearly and effectively, he would have done so in the time since it came out. So far he's offered no alternative explanations
 
2012-10-05 09:07:35 AM  

api.photoshop.com

 
2012-10-05 09:30:39 AM  
I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.
 
2012-10-05 09:48:05 AM  

Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.


Very, very, very much this.
 
2012-10-05 10:22:06 AM  
bull. farking. shiat.

listen to the recording. listen to the vitriol dripping from his maw as he enunciates the word "entitled." that was romney unscripted. that was his true belief.

the man is a pathological liar. he will say anything to get elected.
 
2012-10-05 10:56:55 AM  

FlashHarry: the man is a pathological liar. he will say anything to get elected.


And it's working!

It boggles the mind.
 
2012-10-05 11:07:30 AM  

Calmamity: FlashHarry: the man is a pathological liar. he will say anything to get elected.

And it's working!



He's not going to apologize for being good at his job
 
2012-10-05 11:08:42 AM  
Another flip flop?
 
2012-10-05 11:09:05 AM  

WorldCitizen: Does this man have any core beliefs other than "I want money and power"?


www.ijreview.com
"What?! There are others?!"
 
2012-10-05 11:09:11 AM  

Will the Real Romney please stand up?

 
2012-10-05 11:10:06 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-05 11:10:54 AM  
I'm shocked that you would make some milquetoast apology and appear genuine and sincere on a cupcake interview on Fox News. I'm also shocked that you would be arrogant and divisive in a closed-door fundraiser when you figured nobody would find out what you said.

Shocked and awed.
 
2012-10-05 11:12:07 AM  

Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.


This.
 
2012-10-05 11:12:15 AM  
images1.variety.com

A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It depends on how good he is at it. Romney's art is lies. He's about to paint his masterpiece.
 
2012-10-05 11:13:08 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 540x767]


Nice. I like it.
 
2012-10-05 11:13:15 AM  

CruiserTwelve: "It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that."

Then what exactly were you trying to say Mitt? I think you said exactly what you meant to say. You regret it now only because it revealed you to be the elitist jerk that you are.


This.

Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.


That.

FlashHarry: bull. farking. shiat.

listen to the recording. listen to the vitriol dripping from his maw as he enunciates the word "entitled." that was romney unscripted. that was his true belief.

the man is a pathological liar. he will say anything to get elected.


The other.


Screw that asshole.
 
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2012-10-05 11:13:50 AM  
Romney : "You want me to reduce the deficit? sure, i will do that if you elect me. You want me to make more jobs? sure, 12 million more if you elect me. You want lower taxes? sure, top rate will go down to 28% if you elect me."

Obama : "Are you going to tell us how you plan to do this?"

Romney : "Sure, if you elect me."
 
2012-10-05 11:15:00 AM  
So how long before his staff takes back that comment?
 
2012-10-05 11:15:28 AM  
You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.
 
2012-10-05 11:16:02 AM  
This is the Etch-A-Sketch thing again. He won the debate by feigning ignorance on everything he's talked about for the past year ($5T? Where'd you get that? I love everything about the ACA, I would just implement it at the state level and not federally. I don't want to cut taxes for the rich? What are you talking about?) and the base didn't go screaming into the night. So now his campaign is telling him he can afford to go more moderate. The base is evidently locked up and he can now concentrate on appearing more centrist.

And you know what? It'll probably work. The base will never vote for Obama, especially this late in the game. This is their new tactic to attract that mystical Undecided Vote. Will 5 weeks of the "Kindler, Gentler Romney" be enough, though? Doubtful. Also, the undecideds can't be THAT stupid that they'll suddenly forget a year's worth of campaigning. And you know Obama's ads will be blasting him for flip-flopping AGAIN.
 
2012-10-05 11:16:04 AM  
They are now using the Scott Walker method to get elected. It works. Say anything to get elected, then screw 'em. Walker got elected in Wisconsin by promising to create 250000 jobs with a secret invisible plan that nobody was allowed to see. Hell, 250K jobs aren't created nationwide, it was impossible, but Walker promised it. People believed him and voted for him and of course we have jobs lost. Then during the recall, he pulled it out again, saying that he jobs would come "just after the recall" and people believed again. Instead Wisconsin is a giant ball of failure and is among the lowest in the country for job creation.

It works. You say anything, no matter how outrageous, then screw em once you are elected. It is almost impossible to defend against, the secret plan can't be critiqued because there are no details on how it would work and the candidate promises whatever you want to hear.
 
2012-10-05 11:16:37 AM  
cdn.cagle.com
 
2012-10-05 11:17:32 AM  
Nope...what you say behind closed doors to people you trust is how you really feel. You can try to change your stance now because how you really feel is ugly and it get heard by the poors, but I don't believe you.
 
2012-10-05 11:17:46 AM  
I'm just saying how little I respect people who make political names into other names like Nobama and Obummer.

/just sayin
 
2012-10-05 11:18:28 AM  
If you shake the Etch-A-Sketch too hard, the knobs fall right off.

/knobs
 
2012-10-05 11:18:56 AM  

Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.


I don't know how you weren't on my favorites list, but that has been corrected.
 
2012-10-05 11:19:12 AM  

KarmicDisaster: They are now using the Scott Walker method to get elected. It works. Say anything to get elected, then screw 'em. Walker got elected in Wisconsin by promising to create 250000 jobs with a secret invisible plan that nobody was allowed to see. Hell, 250K jobs aren't created nationwide, it was impossible, but Walker promised it. People believed him and voted for him and of course we have jobs lost. Then during the recall, he pulled it out again, saying that he jobs would come "just after the recall" and people believed again. Instead Wisconsin is a giant ball of failure and is among the lowest in the country for job creation.

It works. You say anything, no matter how outrageous, then screw em once you are elected. It is almost impossible to defend against, the secret plan can't be critiqued because there are no details on how it would work and the candidate promises whatever you want to hear.


Wisconsites were retarded enough to elect that asshole, then overwhelming voted against recalling him. Fark em. Let them eat cat food and deal with the consequences. That's the only with idiots like that learn anything.
 
2012-10-05 11:19:54 AM  
How long before the DERP brigade have a moment of rational insight and perhaps realize that Mitt has been less than forthright?
 
2012-10-05 11:20:01 AM  

Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.


This can't be repeated enough. He's only backtracking now because he got caught.
 
2012-10-05 11:20:11 AM  
Now watch this drive.
 
2012-10-05 11:20:28 AM  

CruiserTwelve: "It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that."

Then what exactly were you trying to say Mitt? I think you said exactly what you meant to say. You regret it now only because it revealed you to be the elitist jerk that you are.


Plus him and the machine have just spent a couple of weeks defending it.
 
2012-10-05 11:21:12 AM  
It's obvious Mitt is back in "moderate" mode. The funny thing is, I think he's finally figured out how to turn his liability into an asset and use his opportunism to his advantage.

This could help him. The Obama campaign better adapt to this quickly.
 
2012-10-05 11:21:20 AM  

Zombie DJ: /just sayin


why the fark do people say this
 
2012-10-05 11:22:40 AM  
Totally horrifying to see Romney so in control of the mindless masses of the GOP. He knows them way to well and is playing them like a deck of cards or a game of Chess or whatever game analogy you want to make. He knows at this point he has the base locked up and no matter what direction he heads, he only needs to make sure to add one tiny thing to all of his speeches, "Obama is BAD!" and the crowd will love it. He is tacking back towards the center to appease the undecideds who are just tuning in and the damn sheep of the GOP still fawn over him as if he is their candidate of choice without so much as blinking at the fact that he is now ditching the same convictions that originally won their interests. I knew the far right GOP had problems but this takes the cake... No convictions, just a petty desire to win at all costs.
 
2012-10-05 11:23:13 AM  
I have to admit, I never thought I'd see Romney run as a Massachusetts liberal. At this rate, he'll be hitting Obama from the left in a week.
 
2012-10-05 11:23:18 AM  

Johnny Swank: KarmicDisaster: They are now using the Scott Walker method to get elected. It works. Say anything to get elected, then screw 'em. Walker got elected in Wisconsin by promising to create 250000 jobs with a secret invisible plan that nobody was allowed to see. Hell, 250K jobs aren't created nationwide, it was impossible, but Walker promised it. People believed him and voted for him and of course we have jobs lost. Then during the recall, he pulled it out again, saying that he jobs would come "just after the recall" and people believed again. Instead Wisconsin is a giant ball of failure and is among the lowest in the country for job creation.

It works. You say anything, no matter how outrageous, then screw em once you are elected. It is almost impossible to defend against, the secret plan can't be critiqued because there are no details on how it would work and the candidate promises whatever you want to hear.

Wisconsites were retarded enough to elect that asshole, then overwhelming voted against recalling him. Fark em. Let them eat cat food and deal with the consequences. That's the only with idiots like that learn anything.


Unfortunately, the technique works.
Walker has even taken to spinning the jobs numbers to count "jobs created". For example, if two people lose their family supporting jobs, and one entry level minimum wage job starts during that same period, that is a Walker "job created", jobs "created" is now 1., not -1. We call those "WalkerJobs".
 
2012-10-05 11:23:36 AM  
I hoped a senior Republican would come out and do the right thing by disavowing Romney's "47%" comments and saying just how wrong they were, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised it was Mr Etch-a-Sketch himself.
 
2012-10-05 11:23:45 AM  
I like how he waited long enough for his supporters to come up with contorted defenses for the statement before pulling the rug out from under them. I'm sure they're thrilled about that.
 
2012-10-05 11:24:06 AM  
Well Mr Romney, I see you haven't been employed for six years and refuse to turn over your financial information so we can do a thorough background check. I'm sorry, but our HR department has concluded that despite your impressive resume you carry to much risk to be hired.

We suggest you get a job at Burger King and pay all your taxes and other outstanding balances so as to build up a history of personal responsibility like the REST OF AMERICA DOES!
 
2012-10-05 11:25:41 AM  
This is smart, take the mandate you got with the conservative base and move to the center away from them while they are too happy about the debate to notice or care.
 
2012-10-05 11:26:15 AM  

Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.


It's the terrorism... the relentless terrorism. It's worn down their courage.
 
2012-10-05 11:26:53 AM  

Jackson Herring: Zombie DJ: /just sayin

why the fark do people say this


When I do it, it is usually because I said something that might fire up some asshole on the internet and I am trying to diffuse the situation a tad preemptively, but still want to let it be known what I think.

Romney is a f*ck face and if you make less that $250,000 per year I don't get how you can support his bullsh*t campaign.

/just sayin'
 
2012-10-05 11:28:06 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Screw that asshole.


That can't be real, can it?
 
2012-10-05 11:28:58 AM  

AcneVulgaris: Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.

It's the terrorism... the relentless terrorism. It's worn down their courage.


Which is weird, because last I checked their opinion was that we needed another 9/11 event to get the country back.
 
2012-10-05 11:32:48 AM  

busy chillin': Jackson Herring: Zombie DJ: /just sayin

why the fark do people say this

When I do it, it is usually because I said something that might fire up some asshole on the internet and I am trying to diffuse the situation a tad preemptively, but still want to let it be known what I think.

Romney is a f*ck face and if you make less that $250,000 per year I don't get how you can support his bullsh*t campaign.

/just sayin'


Some people just love the Republican Kool-Aid (regardless of the amount of arsenic it may contain [levels adjusted appropriately by income]).
 
2012-10-05 11:32:58 AM  
Romney had his reversal on the 47% prepared for the debate so that if Obama mentioned 47 Romney could try to fluster Obama with yet more repudiation of himself in his mad dash toward the center.

I think Obama was right to play it cool and not personally attack Romney because that meant that all of Romney's reversals were just Romney responding to himself.

Since he couldn't use the line then he gets someone to ask him what he would have said if Obama had brought it up.
 
2012-10-05 11:33:45 AM  

imontheinternet: I have to admit, I never thought I'd see Romney run as a Massachusetts liberal. At this rate, he'll be hitting Obama from the left in a week.


You know how they keep talking about a campaign reboot but it never seemed to happen? They were having technical issues for a while but just before the debate they finally got Mitt successfully rebooted. The only problem is that they had to use the boot disk from his gubernatorial campaign.
 
2012-10-05 11:35:05 AM  

HairBolus: Romney had his reversal on the 47% prepared for the debate so that if Obama mentioned 47 Romney could try to fluster Obama with yet more repudiation of himself in his mad dash toward the center.

I think Obama was right to play it cool and not personally attack Romney because that meant that all of Romney's reversals were just Romney responding to himself.

Since he couldn't use the line then he gets someone to ask him what he would have said if Obama had brought it up.


I thought it looked more like the entitled rich guy yelling at the black man who had the gall to think he was his equal.
 
2012-10-05 11:35:49 AM  
Of course you do, Mitt... Of course, you do/
 
2012-10-05 11:36:01 AM  
"Well, clearly in a campaign, with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right," Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

I can see the new ads now. "What else has he said that is completely wrong?"

Way to go, Mitt.
 
2012-10-05 11:37:38 AM  
Poor Romeny. This guy just can't get a break, he completely dominated the debates and won, but still loses because he had to go and threaten Big Bird. Well not to mention he is lying through his teeth and nobody knows what the fark his economic policies are, how he would handle foreign affairs, but we do know he hates the gays, atheists, and other deviants and does not even consider them American citizens.
 
2012-10-05 11:38:18 AM  

Epoch_Zero: AcneVulgaris: Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.

It's the terrorism... the relentless terrorism. It's worn down their courage.

Which is weird, because last I checked their opinion was that we needed another 9/11 event to get the country back.


They've become addicted to being frightened.
 
2012-10-05 11:38:25 AM  

Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.


fta;

Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

you sound tired, Johnny.
 
2012-10-05 11:38:34 AM  

LazarusLong42: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Screw that asshole.

That can't be real, can it?


It's real, but it's a hankerchief. Just looks bad.
He's still an asshole.
 
2012-10-05 11:38:58 AM  
So where are all those "Romeny spoke the TRUTH! He Shouldn't apologize for being RIGHT!" folks now that Romney has said his remarks were "100% wrong"?

Are they no longer going to vote for Romney or will they follow their leader and just flip-flop on this talking point?
 
2012-10-05 11:39:33 AM  

busy chillin': When I do it, it is usually because I said something that might fire up some asshole on the internet and I am trying to diffuse the situation a tad preemptively, but still want to let it be known what I think.


You really think that informing someone that you said what you just said is somehow a mitigating factor to whatever you said you said?

Well, OK then.
 
2012-10-05 11:40:26 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Poor Romeny. This guy just can't get a break, he completely dominated the debates and won, but still loses because he had to go and threaten Big Bird. Well not to mention he is lying through his teeth and nobody knows what the fark his economic policies are, how he would handle foreign affairs, but we do know he hates the gays, atheists, and other deviants and does not even consider them American citizens.


Well, to be fair, he used to say he liked the gays. And then now he changed his mind and think they are less than human and not deserving of equal rights. He saw the light, and the light spelled out politically convenient bigotry.
 
2012-10-05 11:41:44 AM  

Thrag: imontheinternet: I have to admit, I never thought I'd see Romney run as a Massachusetts liberal. At this rate, he'll be hitting Obama from the left in a week.

You know how they keep talking about a campaign reboot but it never seemed to happen? They were having technical issues for a while but just before the debate they finally got Mitt successfully rebooted. The only problem is that they had to use the boot disk from his gubernatorial campaign.


Next, he'll start waxing nostalgic about the good ole days when he and his friend, Teddy Kennedy, worked so hard together for the people of Massachusetts.
 
2012-10-05 11:42:17 AM  
shake the etch a sketch
 
2012-10-05 11:45:54 AM  
Acknowledging error is rare for Romney.

Understatement of the election cycle.
 
2012-10-05 11:46:51 AM  

colon_pow: Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.

fta;

Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

you sound tired, Johnny.


Hey, here's a thought - don't lie in the first place, when it matters. You can't unring a bell.
 
2012-10-05 11:47:36 AM  

Magorn: So where are all those "Romeny spoke the TRUTH! He Shouldn't apologize for being RIGHT!" folks now that Romney has said his remarks were "100% wrong"?

Are they no longer going to vote for Romney or will they follow their leader and just flip-flop on this talking point?


Romney's campaign has finally figured out Teabaggers. They run on pure emotion, and they're comfortable living with cognitive dissonance. As long as he's shouting at Obama and blowing a few dog whistles here and there, he can take any position on any issue at any time, and they'll support him wholeheartedly.
 
2012-10-05 11:47:58 AM  

sprawl15: busy chillin': When I do it, it is usually because I said something that might fire up some asshole on the internet and I am trying to diffuse the situation a tad preemptively, but still want to let it be known what I think.

You really think that informing someone that you said what you just said is somehow a mitigating factor to whatever you said you said?

Well, OK then.


I don't know...it's just a thing we do. Deal with it or don't.
 
2012-10-05 11:48:00 AM  

Kome: Acknowledging error is rare for Romney.

Understatement of the election cycle.


In the industry we call those "untrapped errors."

Although in Romney's case I think it's more a matter of a truth leak.
 
2012-10-05 11:52:30 AM  

colon_pow: Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

you sound tired, Johnny.


I took him 2 weeks to come up with that? After how many other excuses? Please.
 
2012-10-05 11:52:59 AM  

colon_pow: Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.

fta;

Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

you sound tired, Johnny.


How far from his original statement? That is one hell of a slow thought process Romney has there.
 
2012-10-05 11:55:30 AM  

busy chillin': sprawl15: busy chillin': When I do it, it is usually because I said something that might fire up some asshole on the internet and I am trying to diffuse the situation a tad preemptively, but still want to let it be known what I think.

You really think that informing someone that you said what you just said is somehow a mitigating factor to whatever you said you said?

Well, OK then.

I don't know...it's just a thing we do. Deal with it or don't.


You didn't tell me if you were saying what you said or not, so I have no idea if I should respond with anger or detached bemusement. Please clarify!
 
2012-10-05 12:06:17 PM  
If Obama had *ever* disparaged a large group of people in the country - ever - Fox News would run that thing every 2 weeks as a reminder of his true feelings on the matter. It would not matter if Obama had said it 10 years ago and apologized for it a few months later, they would have entire shows showing how he still believes this.

Romney can't walk back his statement, but Fox News will, I'm sure, say 'see, he didn't mean it'.
 
2012-10-05 12:07:00 PM  
Odd that he'd bring up those remarks now (after the debate). They didn't come up during the debates and he "won", so why remind everyone he made these comments?

My thought: his internals show him doing worse after the debates (mostly around like-ability) and he needs to start re-framing himself as a moderate to turn those numbers around.

The sad thing is it may be too late. He should have dis-owned those remarks them moment they came out, well before he tried to shift center. Then the debates may have had a bigger impact. But now it is too late, and all he can do is remind people that he said what he said and look more like a lair.

Just a thought.
 
2012-10-05 12:16:17 PM  

deeproy: Odd that he'd bring up those remarks now (after the debate). They didn't come up during the debates and he "won", so why remind everyone he made these comments?

My thought: his internals show him doing worse after the debates (mostly around like-ability) and he needs to start re-framing himself as a moderate to turn those numbers around.

The sad thing is it may be too late. He should have dis-owned those remarks them moment they came out, well before he tried to shift center. Then the debates may have had a bigger impact. But now it is too late, and all he can do is remind people that he said what he said and look more like a lair.

Just a thought.


A week from now, the only thing anybody will remember about that "debate" is that Romney wants to fire Big Bird.
 
2012-10-05 12:17:19 PM  

sprawl15: busy chillin': sprawl15: busy chillin': When I do it, it is usually because I said something that might fire up some asshole on the internet and I am trying to diffuse the situation a tad preemptively, but still want to let it be known what I think.

You really think that informing someone that you said what you just said is somehow a mitigating factor to whatever you said you said?

Well, OK then.

I don't know...it's just a thing we do. Deal with it or don't.

You didn't tell me if you were saying what you said or not, so I have no idea if I should respond with anger or detached bemusement. Please clarify!


I drooled on my shirt
 
2012-10-05 12:17:27 PM  

deeproy: Odd that he'd bring up those remarks now (after the debate). They didn't come up during the debates and he "won", so why remind everyone he made these comments?

My thought: his internals show him doing worse after the debates (mostly around like-ability) and he needs to start re-framing himself as a moderate to turn those numbers around.

The sad thing is it may be too late. He should have dis-owned those remarks them moment they came out, well before he tried to shift center. Then the debates may have had a bigger impact. But now it is too late, and all he can do is remind people that he said what he said and look more like a lair.

Just a thought.


This won't work with your informed voter however it is not directed at them. You can see the core GOP is not effected by this in the least and is generally geared towards the undecided who are just now tuning in. Those people who have not heard him speak and still think that Romney is politically ever so slightly right of center based on his tenure in Mass. Sadly it will work on that group because they tend to be intellectually lazy and need everything spoon fed to them.

Best hope the Dems have at this stage is to collect everything that Romney has said and nail him to the wall as either a massive flip flopper or a strait up hard right liar. Neither of that is occurring with any kind of resolve.
 
2012-10-05 12:18:41 PM  

Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.


Absolutely this. The man's a lying self-centered egomaniac, and the only reason he's changing positions and apologizing for what he's said is because he thinks it will get him more votes. You'd have to be an idiot to think that, after all the times he's flip-flopped on an issue, this time he's being sincere? No, he's an opportunist and his first statement is what he truly believes.
 
2012-10-05 12:25:21 PM  

Nadie_AZ: If Obama had *ever* disparaged a large group of people in the country - ever - Fox News would run that thing every 2 weeks as a reminder of his true feelings on the matter. It would not matter if Obama had said it 10 years ago and apologized for it a few months later, they would have entire shows showing how he still believes this.

Romney can't walk back his statement, but Fox News will, I'm sure, say 'see, he didn't mean it'.


No need to even use "What ifs"... Just go back to the 2008 campaign and see how they ran with the "clinging to religion and guns" comment.
 
2012-10-05 12:25:43 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.

I don't know how you weren't on my favorites list, but that has been corrected.


ditto
 
2012-10-05 12:35:03 PM  

keylock71: Nadie_AZ: If Obama had *ever* disparaged a large group of people in the country - ever - Fox News would run that thing every 2 weeks as a reminder of his true feelings on the matter. It would not matter if Obama had said it 10 years ago and apologized for it a few months later, they would have entire shows showing how he still believes this.

Romney can't walk back his statement, but Fox News will, I'm sure, say 'see, he didn't mean it'.

No need to even use "What ifs"... Just go back to the 2008 campaign and see how they ran with the "clinging to religion and guns" comment.


And even that "disparaging" comment was coming from a place of empathy. He was trying to humanize the people who hate him while telling his supporters, "They aren't the bad guy's here."

This guy put it far more eloquently than I could.
 
Bf+
2012-10-05 12:47:41 PM  

Johnny Swank: That's the only with idiots like that learn anything.


No way.
 
2012-10-05 12:54:29 PM  

Whiskey Pete: How long before the DERP brigade have a moment of rational insight and perhaps realize that Mitt has been less than forthright?


If he wins? About 9 years. Just like Dubya they'll call Mitt a liar and a RINO right after they don't need to vote for or defend him anymore.
 
2012-10-05 01:31:11 PM  
All that Romney and his handlers have discovered is they can completely lie and swing towards the center and the rabid base doesn't give a shiat. They just want to win. They see an opportunity and they are seizing it.

Obama needs to fight back. He needs to call them out on their lies and strongly differentiate himself from Romney. What happened in the first debate cannot continue.
 
2012-10-05 01:53:34 PM  

Johnny Swank: colon_pow: Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

you sound tired, Johnny.

I took him 2 weeks to come up with that? After how many other excuses? Please.


Citris: colon_pow: Johnny Swank: You republicans, (yeah, you too) are complete pussies. God damn you people are completely incapable of owning up to your own bullshiat. Farking cowards.

fta;

Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

you sound tired, Johnny.

How far from his original statement? That is one hell of a slow thought process Romney has there.


hey, where you going with the goalpost?
 
2012-10-05 02:01:38 PM  

jso2897: A week from now, the only thing anybody will remember about that "debate" is that Romney wants to fire Big Bird.


I kinda agree. I think that all plays towards his like-ability numbers. Talking about the 47% comment is like he is trying to sink his own ship.

Citris: Best hope the Dems have at this stage is to collect everything that Romney has said and nail him to the wall as either a massive flip flopper or a strait up hard right liar. Neither of that is occurring with any kind of resolve.


I think it is more of trying to strip the soft Obama supporters then it is getting undecided voters. I think he kinda failed at that, and this kind of stuff will only make it worse.
 
2012-10-05 02:15:29 PM  

deeproy:
I think it is more of trying to strip the soft Obama supporters then it is getting undecided voters. I think he kinda failed at that, and this kind of stuff will only make it worse.


I'm not so sure, the soft supporters already have an opinion and are mostly aware of whats been going on. I would consider myself a soft supporter of Obama but I'm sure as heck not going anywhere as far as my support goes. Its meant for the low info procrastinating ostriches who wait to get their information in the very last second and only see the now instead of the whole picture. Its very easy to fool those folks as he as to look neutral to them and make more elaborate promises than Obama. I'm thoroughly predicting a general approach to the middle with random jabs at Obama and a whole lot of empty promises and platitudes. He'll make the whole "Obama promised us hope and change and unicorns" B.S. look like hard facts next to the stuff he will claim to do. The base is already fired up and not ready to detach at this point and both candidates know this, the only ones left are the real suckers who have yet to arrive to the sales pitch.
 
2012-10-05 02:26:20 PM  
I'm sure there are undecided voters still out there; maybe even enough to tilt the election. I do think, however, that this is pretty much both sides trying to outvote the other. Romney's got all the support he's going to get in between the rich, the evangelicals, and all other republican faithful. What remains to be seen is if Obama can coalesce enough voters to beat them.
 
2012-10-05 03:11:38 PM  

Shnarpy: Mentat: I put more weight on what you say in private when you think no one is watching than on what you say in public when you're trying to come from behind.

This.


And this again.
 
2012-10-05 03:15:43 PM  
..... Anyone know how freeper land is reacting to this?

/Scared to venture over there.
 
2012-10-05 03:38:52 PM  

Mrembo: ..... Anyone know how freeper land is reacting to this?

/Scared to venture over there.


stay away from there. those guys will chew you up and spit you out. kind of like what romney did to obama.
 
2012-10-05 04:44:01 PM  
How many RomneyFLOPS are in a yottaFLOP?
 
2012-10-05 04:54:26 PM  

WorldCitizen: Slaves2Darkness: Poor Romeny. This guy just can't get a break, he completely dominated the debates and won, but still loses because he had to go and threaten Big Bird. Well not to mention he is lying through his teeth and nobody knows what the fark his economic policies are, how he would handle foreign affairs, but we do know he hates the gays, atheists, and other deviants and does not even consider them American citizens.

Well, to be fair, he used to say he liked the gays. And then now he changed his mind and think they are less than human and not deserving of equal rights. He saw the light, and the light spelled out politically convenient bigotry.


Pretty much. There's flip-flopping, and then there's Romney.
 
2012-10-05 08:34:47 PM  

colon_pow: Mrembo: ..... Anyone know how freeper land is reacting to this?

/Scared to venture over there.

stay away from there. those guys will chew you up and spit you out. kind of like what romney did to obama.


Of course, YOU'RE staying over here where it's nice and safe...
 
2012-10-06 03:20:30 PM  

colon_pow: Mrembo: ..... Anyone know how freeper land is reacting to this?

/Scared to venture over there.

stay away from there. those guys will chew you up and spit you out. kind of like what romney did to obama.


not really. they usually censor any comments that don't conform to their little echo chamber they have over there.
 
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