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(Daily Mail)   Amityville 'horror house' for sale as owners drop asking price from $1.35m to GET OUT (w/pics)   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 75
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2012-10-05 12:26:04 AM
I'd live there, where is it?

the New Jersey home

Nevermind.
 
2012-10-05 12:29:52 AM
Would you like flies with that?
 
2012-10-05 12:34:20 AM

SilentStrider: I'd live there, where is it?

the New Jersey home

Nevermind.


amityville is in ny. however, it's the long island part of ny, so your sentiment stands.
 
2012-10-05 12:35:40 AM
It's not even the real house where the murders occurred! It was just used for exterior shots in the shiatty movie.
 
2012-10-05 12:37:50 AM
This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.
 
2012-10-05 12:39:19 AM

ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.


I'm pretty sure no house is haunted

/YMMV
 
2012-10-05 12:40:05 AM
The bleeding walls might be a deal breaker, however.
 
2012-10-05 12:40:31 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I'm pretty sure no house is haunted

/YMMV


So far, so good for me on hauntings. I guess I'm open-minded about it though.
 
2012-10-05 12:43:14 AM

ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.


Nor was the original house. Isn't it kind of a well known fact that the guy lied his ass off to sell a book and then a movie? The guy spent months studying demonology to make his story seem legit. Even if you believe in haunted houses, this one is a hoax of the highest regard.

And is there some kind of law that says you can photo the house head on? Or did the article just not want the fact that some previous owner renovated the house decades ago to remove the trademark house design?
 
2012-10-05 12:43:33 AM

Strongbeerrules: The bleeding walls might be a deal breaker, however.


Eh, red walls can look really good with a nice light hardwood floor.
 
2012-10-05 12:43:50 AM
Nothing but a movie prop. If I pay big bucks for a haunted house, I want to be able to peel back the floorboards and find dried blood. I want to sleep in the same room the kids were shot in the head while sleeping. I want to feel Josie's red eyes following me while I creep out to the boathouse at midnight.
 
2012-10-05 12:45:08 AM
www.slightlywarped.com 

Peek-a-poo!

i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-10-05 12:47:21 AM

ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.


And it's since been moved, and doesn't look like the house in the movie because that was just a facade for the movie, so....
it's just some house?
 
2012-10-05 12:48:19 AM
"The house was moved from its current location in 1981 to its current position..."

So...they took it from where?
 
2012-10-05 12:48:41 AM
Too bad we can't stay baby

Link
 
2012-10-05 12:56:55 AM
Came for the Eddie Murphy bit.

Leaving satisfied. Nice work, burber.
 
2012-10-05 12:57:59 AM
I read the book when I was 14, and it scared me just like it did everyone else. Fast forward a few years. Now, I'm a grown man, I have a wife, 2 kids, a mortgage a couple SUVs and a dog. It's late at night, everyone's been asleep a few hours, and I'm shutting off the lights getting ready to go upstairs and go to bed. One of my daughter's toys interacts with light, and when I shut off the last light it starts oinking. Before the fist oink is done, I'm sure in my mind it's the evil devil hell pig with red eyes, it's at my heals, and I'm about to die. I probably hadn't thought about that book in 20 years, but in less than a second it transformed me into a scared little kid. Now my kids tease me, but they don't know, man. They haven't read it. They don't know.
 
2012-10-05 01:02:30 AM
Original house has been remodeled on the outside anyway... looks a bit different now than during the murders.
 
2012-10-05 01:02:34 AM
The stairs which Damian is thrown down after having his neck broken at the end of The Exorcist (SPOILERS) is a stone's throw from the Georgetown University campus. Even in the day time it is dark and foreboding.

However, for those who descend to the bottom of the steps, a liquor store awaits you for your troubles.
 
2012-10-05 01:03:35 AM
 
2012-10-05 01:05:40 AM

ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.


I wouldn't hold much hope for the original being haunted...

IIRC- the church which send the priest for the "Exorcism" claims they never did that (OK, the Catholic church doesn't officially do them... so it's a secret, fine)
When the "cloven foot tracks in the snow to the window" was listed in the story, it gave a time frame. Weather records show no snow in this period.
Nothing remarkable happened in the house for the next owners.
The claim that it was an ancient Indian burial ground was roundly refuted by the local Native Amercian groups.
The story documented things like window framed getting broken. The current residents noted that there's no such damage, and the window hardware is original.

And it's beside the point, because 2 years after it was published, William Weber, the lawyer for DeFeo, the original guy who actually murdered his family in that house prior to the Lutzes, said he, George Lutz, and Kathy Lutz made it up as a crappy horror story to rip off The Exorcist, but figured the whole connection to the house would be a super-marketable twist.
 
2012-10-05 01:08:17 AM
"It chose to destroy itself rather than live with us. You can't help but feel a little rejected."
 
2012-10-05 01:18:25 AM

Notabunny: I read the book when I was 14, and it scared me just like it did everyone else. Fast forward a few years. Now, I'm a grown man, I have a wife, 2 kids, a mortgage a couple SUVs and a dog. It's late at night, everyone's been asleep a few hours, and I'm shutting off the lights getting ready to go upstairs and go to bed. One of my daughter's toys interacts with light, and when I shut off the last light it starts oinking. Before the fist oink is done, I'm sure in my mind it's the evil devil hell pig with red eyes, it's at my heals, and I'm about to die. I probably hadn't thought about that book in 20 years, but in less than a second it transformed me into a scared little kid. Now my kids tease me, but they don't know, man. They haven't read it. They don't know.


I read it when I was in college or something. Was in a hotel room in New York, couldn't sleep, read the entire thing in one night. Finally went to turn off the light, and saw two glowing red eyes staring back at me from the dark. Freaked the fark out, turned on the lights, discovered it was the power light on the hotel phone and the reflection of the phone light from the desk mirror. Still gives me chills, though, more than a decade later.
 
2012-10-05 01:24:07 AM

Oznog: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I wouldn't hold much hope for the original being haunted...

IIRC- the church which send the priest for the "Exorcism" claims they never did that (OK, the Catholic church doesn't officially do them... so it's a secret, fine)
When the "cloven foot tracks in the snow to the window" was listed in the story, it gave a time frame. Weather records show no snow in this period.
Nothing remarkable happened in the house for the next owners.
The claim that it was an ancient Indian burial ground was roundly refuted by the local Native Amercian groups.
The story documented things like window framed getting broken. The current residents noted that there's no such damage, and the window hardware is original.

And it's beside the point, because 2 years after it was published, William Weber, the lawyer for DeFeo, the original guy who actually murdered his family in that house prior to the Lutzes, said he, George Lutz, and Kathy Lutz made it up as a crappy horror story to rip off The Exorcist, but figured the whole connection to the house would be a super-marketable twist.


Ummmm where did you get that? The pre-Vatican II Baptism has an Exorcism in it as well. We do them all over the place. Exorcism
 
2012-10-05 01:42:52 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I'm pretty sure no house is haunted

/YMMV


I saw a ghost when I was 14. For real.
 
2012-10-05 01:46:00 AM

ryant123: In Search Of...The Amityville Horror


I had managed to put that out of my memory for around 20 years. Thanks you for bringing back those traumatic child hood memories.
 
2012-10-05 01:46:15 AM
I'm not saying it's haunted, but...

It's not haunted.
 
2012-10-05 01:46:51 AM
"GET OUT"

i521.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 01:47:39 AM

kg2095: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I'm pretty sure no house is haunted

/YMMV

I saw a ghost when I was 14. For real.


Well? Are you gonna save it for the true scary stories thread in 3 weeks or are you gonna spill the beans?
 
2012-10-05 01:50:54 AM

kg2095: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I'm pretty sure no house is haunted

/YMMV

I saw a ghost when I was 14. For real.

Now, 36 years later, I live across the road from the biggest cemetery in the southern hemisphere. From looking at Google Maps my bed is only 120 meters (130 yards) from the nearest grave.

It's creepy as hell but in 2 years living here I've seen no ghosts . Nothing unusual at all.
 
2012-10-05 01:53:27 AM

Oznog: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I wouldn't hold much hope for the original being haunted...

IIRC- the church which send the priest for the "Exorcism" claims they never did that (OK, the Catholic church doesn't officially do them... so it's a secret, fine)
When the "cloven foot tracks in the snow to the window" was listed in the story, it gave a time frame. Weather records show no snow in this period.
Nothing remarkable happened in the house for the next owners.
The claim that it was an ancient Indian burial ground was roundly refuted by the local Native Amercian groups.
The story documented things like window framed getting broken. The current residents noted that there's no such damage, and the window hardware is original.

And it's beside the point, because 2 years after it was published, William Weber, the lawyer for DeFeo, the original guy who actually murdered his family in that house prior to the Lutzes, said he, George Lutz, and Kathy Lutz made it up as a crappy horror story to rip off The Exorcist, but figured the whole connection to the house would be a super-marketable twist.


Isn't that fraud? Can they not be charged with a crime?
 
2012-10-05 02:39:39 AM
Okay, let's clear this up.....

i486.photobucket.com
i486.photobucket.com
These are photos of the actual "Amityville Horror" house back in the day when all the "horror" took place

i486.photobucket.com
i486.photobucket.com
This is the same house today.

The one for sale in the article is the one they used in the movie for exterior shots. It had nothing to do with the Lutz's. So even if hauntings were real, the one for sale wouldn't be the one haunted. In other words, this is a non-story.
 
2012-10-05 02:45:55 AM
I don't believe in ghosts, but...

I used to be a photographer, mainly for real estate agents and property managers. I was sent to make a virtual tour of a house an older part of town. Just a nondescript 19th-Century 2-story on a fairly busy residential street.

I was scared from the moment I walked in. I had this feeling of dread, like someone was always just about to walk into the room. I set up my tripod in various rooms and shot as fast as I could and got the hell out of there. I was grateful I didn't have to shoot the basement. One room upstairs especially gave me the willies. "This is where she died," I thought.

I've never been that afraid of a place. The property manager said he had had a hard time finding a renter, though the price was reasonable and the house was in good condition, well lit and otherwise attractive and a lot of potential renters had looked at it. I told him about the creeps it gave me, and he said he had the same experience. "This is where she died."

He figured there was just something inherently unsettling about the house. I had to agree.

Years later, I read about how infrasound can have that effect on people. (Google it.)

Now, it all makes sense. The place was empty, had hardwood floors, central heating and was probably just a big infrasound chamber.

Though that doesn't explain why we both thought "This is where she died." A lonely old woman in a bathrobe whose family had left her. She died alone in there.

But, nah, it was just infrasound. I like ghost stories, and I have a good imagination.
 
2012-10-05 03:04:11 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's not even the real house where the murders occurred! It was just used for exterior shots in the shiatty movie.


Only after they built another structure around this house to make it look like the real house.

Confusing article is confusing.

The house was moved from its current location in 1981 to its current position directly on Brooks Road.

lol wut?
 
2012-10-05 03:05:29 AM
OK, true story.

George and Kathy moved to a house across the street from my aunt (in California) and became good friends with her. One night over some wine they admitted it was all a hoax.

End of story.
 
2012-10-05 03:36:06 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm pretty sure no house is haunted


IDK. I wouldn't be surprised if Sarah Palin's home is haunted with obscene stupidity.
 
2012-10-05 05:00:55 AM

AssAsInAssassin: Years later, I read about how infrasound can have that effect on people. (Google it.)


That was very interesting.
 
2012-10-05 05:07:40 AM

limboslam: The one for sale in the article is the one they used in the movie for exterior shots. It had nothing to do with the Lutz's. So even if hauntings were real, the one for sale wouldn't be the one haunted. In other words, this is a non-story.


The funny thing is that the real house, the original house on Long Island, was on the market recently. I think it actually sold quite quickly as Amityville is a really desirable place to live these days.
 
2012-10-05 05:19:14 AM

ypsifly: OK, true story.

George and Kathy moved to a house across the street from my aunt (in California) and became good friends with her. One night over some wine they admitted it was all a hoax.

End of story.


Yeah. I've heard that they came clean a while ago.
I want to stay in that Berklee Square room in England where people go insane and hurl themselves out of windows after one night inside. I think that would cement any stance I would have on the existence of ghosts or not.
 
2012-10-05 05:37:30 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's not even the real house where the murders occurred! It was just used for exterior shots in the shiatty movie.


Which version, the original, the remake or the sequels?
 
2012-10-05 06:28:35 AM
If anyone lives in NEPA, take a trip to the Weatherly Cemetery. Not a believer in spirits lingering around, but that place has strange stuff going on.

/ Once had a church on site that burned down. Abandoned - deep in the woods. Sounds of crying, a pipe organ and people walking n a hard wood floor.
 
2012-10-05 06:44:34 AM
owners drop asking price from $1.35m to $955k (but insist it's because of it's in New Jersey, not demons)

the real reason
 
2012-10-05 07:07:31 AM

Will-Mun: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

Nor was the original house. Isn't it kind of a well known fact that the guy lied his ass off to sell a book and then a movie? The guy spent months studying demonology to make his story seem legit. Even if you believe in haunted houses, this one is a hoax of the highest regard.

And is there some kind of law that says you can photo the house head on? Or did the article just not want the fact that some previous owner renovated the house decades ago to remove the trademark house design?

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I read that book when I was young. Way too young. Maybe 11 years old, give or take.

It scared the LIVING SHIATTERS out of me for, I reckon, well over a year. Could hardly bear being in a room by myself.

But then I found out it was complete hogsh1at. It was one of those seminal "innocence lost" moments. Why would someone would lie about something like that??????? Soon to find out the whole farking world is made up of people telling lies.

You wouldn't believe the crap I've had to deal with this week
And I'm shovelling most of it for free
"Grace under pressure" - that's what the old man said
Yeah the old man said a lo of things in his time
Well, fighting a bull's one thing but fighting bullshiat's another

And around here you know the bullshiat just never seems to die
 
2012-10-05 07:47:12 AM

Big Ramifications: Will-Mun: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

Nor was the original house. Isn't it kind of a well known fact that the guy lied his ass off to sell a book and then a movie? The guy spent months studying demonology to make his story seem legit. Even if you believe in haunted houses, this one is a hoax of the highest regard.

And is there some kind of law that says you can photo the house head on? Or did the article just not want the fact that some previous owner renovated the house decades ago to remove the trademark house design?
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I read that book when I was young. Way too young. Maybe 11 years old, give or take.

It scared the LIVING SHIATTERS out of me for, I reckon, well over a year. Could hardly bear being in a room by myself.

But then I found out it was complete hogsh1at. It was one of those seminal "innocence lost" moments. Why would someone would lie about something like that??????? Soon to find out the whole farking world is made up of people telling lies.

You wouldn't believe the crap I've had to deal with this week
And I'm shovelling most of it for free
"Grace under pressure" - that's what the old man said
Yeah the old man said a lo of things in his time
Well, fighting a bull's one thing but fighting bullshiat's another
And around here you know the bullshiat just never seems to die


That's what conflicts me so much about Amityville... I actually really enjoy the story. I liked the movie, even the Ryan Reynolds remake. The sense of just complete and utter total oppression as the house lays into the family and corrupts the father. The way it starts off small, and gradually just grows into a nightmarish terror that the family has no choice but to just flee. No exorcist, no last minute calming of the spirits that were once wronged. Just run.

That's probably why Paranormal Activity is my favorite horror movie.

But then it's a hoax. It's not just the fact that ghosts aren't real, this man knowingly concocted a story in order to ride the newish paranormal wave that was cropping up in American subculture. And seeing how much it pisses me off, how much must it anger people who actually believes in ghosts? So what do I do? How can I watch the movies with a genuinely good story without having that nibbling sensation in the back of my head telling me "some scumbag made this with the sole intent of getting rich." Seriously, if the dude had just written the story, as it was, and then told his audience that he used his family and the house they lived in's history of brutal murder as a springboard for a fictional story, it probably still would have been a smash hit.

I can tell you right now there is one way to make me completely lose enthusiasm for any supernatural based horror movie. "Based on a true story." Pretending ghosts are real is fun in fiction, but you try and get your reality mixed in with my fantasy, and we're just gonna end up with a blended mess of foul smelling bullshiat and lies.
 
2012-10-05 07:56:19 AM

Will-Mun: That's what conflicts me so much about Amityville... I actually really enjoy the story.

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Good point!

It was a ripping tale, wasn't it?! A really enjoyable* book. I never saw the movie[s].

*I knew what I was getting in to. I knew it was going to be scary. So in that respect I have to rate it as enjoyable. Erm, right?
 
2012-10-05 08:17:54 AM
Wow, that place is beautiful

Wish I had the (old) scratch for it
 
2012-10-05 08:27:09 AM
FTA The property is in an idyllic riverside location

Wait, a riverside location in NJ? You never buy riverfront property in NJ, it floods constantly. i used to live in the Wayne/Lincoln Park area, and when people asked me where that was, i told them "It's that place you see on the news every time it rains in NJ". It really is that bad by the water.

Lakefront is what you want.

Oh, and 1.3 million to 995k? That's not a divorce or any other reason like that, that's because house prices have dropped that much in NJ.

/happy with a house 2/3rds the size, in the mountains, for 255k.
//Rt 23's commute to Fairfield isn't that bad, either....
///West Milford - if the bears don't kill you the taxes will :(
 
2012-10-05 08:40:20 AM

kg2095: kg2095: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ljk0828: This was on the radio here today, and from their report (and also from info buried deeeeep in this article), my understanding is that the house for sale is not the house where the murders took place. It's only the house they filmed the movie in. Of course I may be wrong, but if that's the case.. of course it isn't haunted.

I'm pretty sure no house is haunted

/YMMV

I saw a ghost when I was 14. For real.

Now, 36 years later, I live across the road from the biggest cemetery in the southern hemisphere. From looking at Google Maps my bed is only 120 meters (130 yards) from the nearest grave.

It's creepy as hell but in 2 years living here I've seen no ghosts . Nothing unusual at all.


C'mon now,, not even a couple emo kids dry humping on a tombstone?
 
2012-10-05 09:02:56 AM
Pics apparently taken with a rotary phone.
 
2012-10-05 09:15:10 AM

Will-Mun: Seriously, if the dude had just written the story, as it was, and then told his audience that he used his family and the house they lived in's history of brutal murder as a springboard for a fictional story, it probably still would have been a smash hit.

I can tell you right now there is one way to make me completely lose enthusiasm for any supernatural based horror movie. "Based on a true story."


Depends on your perspective. It was based on a true story -- the story of the DeFoe family, which was the springboard for the fictional account of what supposedly happened to the Lutz family.
 
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