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(The Consumerist)   Panera opens "Panera cares" restaurants, where you can eat and pay only what you can afford. As you can imagine, some people are seriously unhappy about this   (consumerist.com ) divider line
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2012-10-05 12:16:14 AM  
"I don't see any more of that now than I saw before at all," he explains. "Before it was all relatively affluent neighbors and now it's a mix of affluent neighbors and folks that aren't as affluent."

I think I've found the correlation.
 
2012-10-05 01:03:59 AM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 01:45:49 AM  
Welcome to 2010.
 
2012-10-05 01:47:16 AM  
FTFA: "A crowd of guys won't let you though a sidewalk. That's invasive."

Police have met with community leaders to discuss concerns about homeless people in the area of the Panera Cares, but say there is no proof of a correlation between the restaurant's opening and any increase in crime.


What I'm seeing here is that people are annoyed that they have to encounter and, gasp, be PHYSICALLY NEAR homeless people that they have lived near probably for years. People that aren't actually committing any crimes.

It's a good thing Panera cares, because the people of Chicago sure farking don't.
 
2012-10-05 01:56:00 AM  

fusillade762: Welcome to 2010.


Yeah. I had a co-worker who went to the Portland version of this idea from Panera a lot, and, well... He didn't pay much either. Honestly I'd feel ripped off at Panera if I spent more than $4 or so, so maybe I just can't be that harsh.
 
2012-10-05 02:30:08 AM  

Mentat: "I don't see any more of that now than I saw before at all," he explains. "Before it was all relatively affluent neighbors and now it's a mix of affluent neighbors and folks that aren't as affluent."

I think I've found the correlation.


Indeed.
 
2012-10-05 02:30:19 AM  
Thank goodness the Consumerist lets us all know about these outrages.
 
2012-10-05 02:30:28 AM  
Wouldn't they be able to fix the zoning so charities like Panera Cares (and Goodwill and Salvation Army) are barred from setting up shop there?
 
2012-10-05 02:30:32 AM  
North Side of Chicago whining. It's not even a problem. I can't stand white people a lot of the time.
 
2012-10-05 02:33:20 AM  
Willing to bet most of the people who have a problem with the increase in homeless traffic vote for Obama in a few weeks
 
2012-10-05 02:34:30 AM  
Both subby and the article writer appear to have missed out on 2010 and 2011. It was big news on Fark way back when, by now I'd assume everyone knows about the steadily expanding pay-as-you-want phenomenon actually leading to higher overall revenue in yuppieville. Appealing to white guilt works!
 
2012-10-05 02:34:36 AM  
There are many days when I wish I could have an asiago roast beef sandwich for what I could afford...

/Doing on-site it support but paid as a csr
//with no bonus...
 
2012-10-05 02:37:40 AM  
 
2012-10-05 02:38:18 AM  
It's Saint Louis Bread Company, thankyouverymuch.
 
2012-10-05 02:43:56 AM  

ThreeEdgedSword: North Side of Chicago whining. It's not even a problem. I can't stand white people a lot of the time.


I can't stand wealthy people a lot of the time. And by "wealthy" I mean well-off. Nobody whines like someone who's managed to surround themselves with other well-off people who have managed to convince themselves poor people don't exist any more.
 
2012-10-05 02:46:42 AM  
Why actually change the name of the store with a big "we care" sign? Makes it look like a PR thing. Just do a stand up sign at the door or posters in windows. Farking American culture, we can't take a shiat without being self-promoting.
 
2012-10-05 02:52:43 AM  
The article mentions they haven't seen an increase in crime in the immediate area. Well, duh. Who needs to rob someone when you can eat free and save all of your spare change to buy meth?
 
2012-10-05 02:53:09 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Wouldn't they be able to fix the zoning so charities like Panera Cares (and Goodwill and Salvation Army) are barred from setting up shop there?


Don't forget about IKEA too.
 
2012-10-05 02:54:38 AM  

ThreeEdgedSword: North Side of Chicago whining. It's not even a problem. I can't stand white people a lot of the time.


Where were you the rest of the time?
 
2012-10-05 02:54:42 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Why actually change the name of the store with a big "we care" sign? Makes it look like a PR thing. Just do a stand up sign at the door or posters in windows. Farking American culture, we can't take a shiat without being self-promoting.


So people know that it's not an actual Panera, and that there are homeless people about. It's to be avoided.
 
2012-10-05 02:59:10 AM  
Meh, there's one of these on Michigan Ave in Dearborn. It looks pretty much like a regular Panera except that you pay a box in front of the cash register.

Sometimes there are a couple poor and/or homeless people in there.... OH NOES!!!!111!!!!one!! Know what they're doing every time I've been there? Eating food and drinking coffee in peace--the same thing I was doing.

Unless the Chicago location is attracting belligerent, drunk homeless folks and not kicking them out, it sounds like the locals need to un-bunch their panties.
 
2012-10-05 03:00:26 AM  
Scumbags. Not the clientele, but the majority of you farkers.
 
2012-10-05 03:04:32 AM  

foxyshadis: It was big news on Fark way back when, by now I'd assume everyone knows about the steadily expanding pay-as-you-want phenomenon actually leading to higher overall revenue in yuppieville


I have albums from a few Magnatune artists, which is all pay-as-you-go, and they do really well for themselves. For something digital where there is no cost for each additional copy, it makes a lot of sense. I don't know how well it will play out long term for things like food where each item has a discrete cost.
 
2012-10-05 03:10:47 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: pay-as-you-go


Sorry, pay-what-you-want
 
2012-10-05 03:19:53 AM  
I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....
 
2012-10-05 03:22:08 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: foxyshadis: It was big news on Fark way back when, by now I'd assume everyone knows about the steadily expanding pay-as-you-want phenomenon actually leading to higher overall revenue in yuppieville

I have albums from a few Magnatune artists, which is all pay-as-you-go, and they do really well for themselves. For something digital where there is no cost for each additional copy, it makes a lot of sense. I don't know how well it will play out long term for things like food where each item has a discrete cost.


My experience with Magnatune has been, sadly, play an album once, skipping the interstitial ads, rock out, forget about it, repeat next month. There's some really good stuff, but I already have tons of good stuff, and it's really hard to get anyone else interested. I paid up for a couple of them back in the day, Falik was one, but never bothered with a subscription when I already had Pandora One.
 
2012-10-05 03:28:07 AM  

Mentat: "I don't see any more of that now than I saw before at all," he explains. "Before it was all relatively affluent neighbors and now it's a mix of affluent neighbors and folks that aren't as affluent."

I think I've found the correlation.


Bingo.
 
2012-10-05 03:28:42 AM  

robohobo: i upped my meds-up yours: Why actually change the name of the store with a big "we care" sign? Makes it look like a PR thing. Just do a stand up sign at the door or posters in windows. Farking American culture, we can't take a shiat without being self-promoting.

So people know that it's not an actual Panera, and that there are homeless people about. It's to be avoided.


LOL...your right..it is a 503c run by Panera...

just sayin'...
 
2012-10-05 03:29:01 AM  

GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....


You mean a multinational corporate chain's food isn't actually created by farm wives picking and milling their own grains onsite while artisan bakers pull it out of the oven just as you order it? Who'd have thought. "It's not poisonous" and "tastes better than Wonder Bread" is all I'm expecting for the rare visit to Panera.

/Olive Garden breadsticks are also the only edible thing there; it's hard to fark up baked goods when the recipe is tightly controlled.
//Homemade bread can be one of the world's tastiest creations, but I have no patience for kneading.
 
2012-10-05 03:29:20 AM  

grinding_journalist: It's Saint Louis Bread Company, thankyouverymuch.


Came to say this.

/Work about a mile from the original "Pay What You Can" SLBC restaurant.
 
2012-10-05 03:41:41 AM  

secularsage: grinding_journalist: It's Saint Louis Bread Company, thankyouverymuch.

Came to say this.

/Work about a mile from the original "Pay What You Can" SLBC restaurant.


on the Loop?

again....just askin'

ga
 
2012-10-05 03:43:44 AM  

foxyshadis: GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....

You mean a multinational corporate chain's food isn't actually created by farm wives picking and milling their own grains onsite while artisan bakers pull it out of the oven just as you order it? Who'd have thought. "It's not poisonous" and "tastes better than Wonder Bread" is all I'm expecting for the rare visit to Panera.

/Olive Garden breadsticks are also the only edible thing there; it's hard to fark up baked goods when the recipe is tightly controlled.
//Homemade bread can be one of the world's tastiest creations, but I have no patience for kneading.


A mixer with a dough hook could knead it for ya, or a bread machine (but YMMV quality varies).
I like kneading dough. It's like giving a sensuous massage to a sweet, quiet person you can eat later.
 
2012-10-05 03:46:02 AM  

kingoomieiii: What I'm seeing here is that people are annoyed that they have to encounter and, gasp, be PHYSICALLY NEAR homeless people that they have lived near probably for years. People that aren't actually committing any crimes.


What about the crime of stinkin up the place?
 
2012-10-05 03:49:59 AM  

WeenerGord: kingoomieiii: What I'm seeing here is that people are annoyed that they have to encounter and, gasp, be PHYSICALLY NEAR homeless people that they have lived near probably for years. People that aren't actually committing any crimes.

What about the crime of stinkin up the place?


We're supposed to pretend that bums, much like the obese, don't smell to high heaven.
 
2012-10-05 03:49:59 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Farking American culture, we can't take a shiat without being self-promoting.


Tycho is being a douche
 
2012-10-05 04:07:41 AM  
two farking years ago
 
2012-10-05 04:11:38 AM  
Wow. Welcome to three years ago, Subby. Panera's been doing this here since then. The only problem they had is with high-schoolers wanting to eat for free. They've since put a guy out front telling everyone that they are expected to pay for their meals. As I understand it, they're actually doing much better, money-wise, than the standard outlets.
 
GBB
2012-10-05 04:51:03 AM  
"Pay what you can afford"?? So, naturally, all the rich customers were paying hundreds for their meals, right??
 
2012-10-05 04:53:05 AM  

GBB: "Pay what you can afford"?? So, naturally, all the rich customers were paying hundreds for their meals, right??


Seriously, rich people are just so farking evil, right? How dare they have more money than other people!
 
2012-10-05 05:06:30 AM  

E5bie: I like kneading dough. It's like giving a sensuous massage to a sweet, quiet person you can eat later.


Well I think I know what sort of online forums you hang out in when you're not here.

/And parts of Second Life
 
2012-10-05 05:20:34 AM  
Rich folk offend by Poor folk getting too close .
 
2012-10-05 05:38:04 AM  

robohobo: GBB: "Pay what you can afford"?? So, naturally, all the rich customers were paying hundreds for their meals, right??

Seriously, rich people are just so farking evil, right? How dare they have more money than other people!


You'd think rich people and their lackeys (like you) would have a thicker skin.
 
2012-10-05 05:49:24 AM  

lewismarktwo: robohobo: GBB: "Pay what you can afford"?? So, naturally, all the rich customers were paying hundreds for their meals, right??

Seriously, rich people are just so farking evil, right? How dare they have more money than other people!

You'd think rich people and their lackeys (like you) would have a thicker skin.


Oh, I'm rich, not a lackey. I don't even HAVE lackeys.
 
Skr
2012-10-05 05:51:08 AM  
Heard about these previously, interesting idea. I'd still probably pay menu price. Really like their ham & swiss on rye with spicy mustard. With french baguette as the side though- their chips are about as bland as healthy chips can be heh.
 
2012-10-05 05:58:24 AM  
I'd like to see this expand. I'd go to Panera more often if I could get the Sierra Turkey sandwich and a fountain drink for $6.00, instead of the $8.50-ish I have to pay now.
 
2012-10-05 06:14:12 AM  
Jesus would throw out these moochers too, I'm sure of it.
 
2012-10-05 06:16:00 AM  
How about "pay what it's worth". A turkey sandwich for $9? yeah, go to the foodway grocery store across the street and get the same thing for $1.00. Difficulty: you have to put the meat on the bread yourself. So it's, like, more work.
 
2012-10-05 06:19:16 AM  

ThreeEdgedSword: I can't stand white people a lot of the time.


People who annoy you?
 
2012-10-05 06:37:03 AM  
Ah, Lakeview douche-bags. Neck and neck in the race with Lincoln Park for douchiest douches.
 
2012-10-05 06:42:58 AM  
Open one of these in Houston. I need a new failure to laugh at.
 
2012-10-05 06:50:59 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: How about "pay what it's worth". A turkey sandwich for $9? yeah, go to the foodway grocery store across the street and get the same thing for $1.00. Difficulty: you have to put the meat on the bread yourself. So it's, like, more work.


THIS. Their food is ridiculously overpriced and they keep raising their prices. Fark them.
 
2012-10-05 06:58:18 AM  
I tried Panera Bread one time and demanded my money back the second I laid eyes on the desiccated, shrunken excuse for a chicken breast they had the balls to call my lunch.
 
2012-10-05 07:39:27 AM  

foxyshadis: Both subby and the article writer appear to have missed out on 2010 and 2011. It was big news on Fark way back when, by now I'd assume everyone knows about the steadily expanding pay-as-you-want phenomenon actually leading to higher overall revenue in yuppieville. Appealing to white guilt works!


I call it human empathy, but if "white guilt" works for you, that's fine.
 
GBB
2012-10-05 07:44:03 AM  

robohobo: GBB: "Pay what you can afford"?? So, naturally, all the rich customers were paying hundreds for their meals, right??

Seriously, rich people are just so farking evil, right? How dare they have more money than other people!


Jesus, don't OD on the rage so early in the day. It ain't about you, you type-A, asshole.
You think I would have posted this if the headline read "Pay what you want."?? Which do you think is more accurate: customers paying what they can "afford" or what they "want to pay"?
 
2012-10-05 07:51:07 AM  
so we have to pay MORE in order to accommodate the homeless. don't like
 
2012-10-05 07:54:03 AM  

foxyshadis: GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....

You mean a multinational corporate chain's food isn't actually created by farm wives picking and milling their own grains onsite while artisan bakers pull it out of the oven just as you order it? Who'd have thought. "It's not poisonous" and "tastes better than Wonder Bread" is all I'm expecting for the rare visit to Panera.

/Olive Garden breadsticks are also the only edible thing there; it's hard to fark up baked goods when the recipe is tightly controlled.
//Homemade bread can be one of the world's tastiest creations, but I have no patience for kneading.


Kneading is rather relaxing and I love it. But, you can always make the dough in a food processor. In fact, it tends to do a better job.
 
2012-10-05 07:54:46 AM  

Kibbler: I call it human empathy, but if "white guilt" works for you, that's fine.


They're not putting these things in poor neighborhoods... are they?
 
2012-10-05 07:57:30 AM  

ThreeEdgedSword: North Side of Chicago whining. It's not even a problem. I can't stand white people a lot of the time.


Who told you it was ok to say things like this, you farking racist?
 
2012-10-05 08:12:48 AM  
So, basically, a bunch of stereotypical Panera customers and a bunch of stereotypical hobos wound up in the same place and now the Panera customers are scared of the dirty little people hanging around their free wifi.

Go write the novella you've been working on in public for the last six years somewhere else, then, dumbass. Maybe McDonald's has some free wifi.
 
2012-10-05 08:36:19 AM  
I would go to Panera bread much more if I got food for free/Only paid what I thought it was worth
 
2012-10-05 08:42:57 AM  
I read this as Pantera, which made it quite a bit more interesting.
 
2012-10-05 08:44:31 AM  
I'll tell you a secret: some people are racists...

especially old white women.
 
2012-10-05 08:46:41 AM  
"Oh lordy me! There are POORS all over my neighborhood now! The way they stand in line trying to get a good meal is terrifying! They're all over the sidewalk LOOKING POOR! Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to meet some friends and stand outside of Bongo Room for 3 hours for brunch!"
 
2012-10-05 08:48:59 AM  

Mentat: "I don't see any more of that now than I saw before at all," he explains. "Before it was all relatively affluent neighbors and now it's a mix of affluent neighbors and folks that aren't as affluent."

I think I've found the correlation.


PSSST! I think that guy over there might be a 47%er....don't make eye contact,
 
2012-10-05 08:49:13 AM  

karasoth: I would go to Panera bread much more if I got food for free/Only paid what I thought it was worth


i think the food is worth negative $10000 (emptys the cash register)
losers
 
2012-10-05 09:01:01 AM  

robohobo: lewismarktwo: robohobo: GBB: "Pay what you can afford"?? So, naturally, all the rich customers were paying hundreds for their meals, right??

Seriously, rich people are just so farking evil, right? How dare they have more money than other people!

You'd think rich people and their lackeys (like you) would have a thicker skin.

Oh, I'm rich, not a lackey. I don't even HAVE lackeys.


Then brother, you ain't rich. That, or you're a giant douche who, no matter how much bread you got, people would rather not work for you. I'm inclined to go with the latter.
 
2012-10-05 09:03:50 AM  
I am fantastically rich... spiritually
 
2012-10-05 09:04:09 AM  

abhorrent1: Ah, Lakeview douche-bags. Neck and neck in the race with Lincoln Park for douchiest douches.


you must live in Logan Square.
 
2012-10-05 09:06:40 AM  
Isn't it racist to think that the bummy customers are not white? That's a little racial profiling going on right there.
 
2012-10-05 09:13:17 AM  
At some point corporate will figure out they are too much of a drain on the bottom line, profits will be down at their regular stores because prices will continue to be pushed upward hurting sales, and they'll go back to sending the leftover bread to homeless shelters again. That bit seemed to work very nicely for them over the years.
 
2012-10-05 09:14:41 AM  
Damn, from reading these food-related threads, one might think all you Farkers were gourmet connoisseurs, instead of Cheetos-eating basement dwellers. Way to prop up the facade, people!

/bunch of food hipsters
//I bet your favorite food is probably something I never heard of
 
2012-10-05 09:17:07 AM  

GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....


I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

So I am really getting a kick out of these replies.

Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about.

This is how bad info gets passed around.

If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do.

Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.
 
2012-10-05 09:17:58 AM  
Something something something class warfare.
 
2012-10-05 09:36:57 AM  
I have a friend that was banned from a local Panera Bread store because she was being disruptive for asking a bagel that she paid for.

/CSB
 
2012-10-05 09:41:18 AM  

PsyLord: I have a friend that was banned from a local Panera Bread store because she was being disruptive for asking a bagel that she paid for.

/CSB


Shrooms?
 
2012-10-05 09:43:43 AM  
I used to live a block away from that Panera, and I'm certainly not affluent (even less so at the time - straight out of college). That area has always been a mix of rich older people, broke post-college kids, and plenty of crazies and homeless. I don't see how this really changes anything other than the fact that now the homeless guys walking around can get a free meal instead of hassling the richies for a few bucks.
 
2012-10-05 09:48:44 AM  
While I agree their stuff is ridiculously overpriced, they are *very* generous when donating to a local food bank. Props to Panera on that level for at least giving something back.
 
2012-10-05 09:51:38 AM  

samardzic77: Willing to bet most of the people who have a problem with the increase in homeless traffic vote for Obama in a few weeks


So? Just because you love your country enough to vote against Mitt Romney does not mean that you have to love everybody single American.

And before judging Lakeview, you should have to go through the panhandler gauntlet ten times a week for a month.
 
2012-10-05 09:52:19 AM  

PsyLord: I have a friend that was banned from a local Panera Bread store because she was being disruptive for asking a bagel that she paid for.

/CSB


What did she ask it???
 
2012-10-05 09:55:23 AM  

PallMall: PsyLord: I have a friend that was banned from a local Panera Bread store because she was being disruptive for asking a bagel that she paid for.

/CSB

Shrooms?


asking FOR.

/haz a case of the Fridays.
 
2012-10-05 09:58:15 AM  

E5bie: A mixer with a dough hook could knead it for ya, or a bread machine (but YMMV quality varies).
I like kneading dough. It's like giving a sensuous massage to a sweet, quiet person you can eat later.


Heh.

Thing is, you can make better bread with the mixer/hook, because you can have the dough wetter.

Doesn't do jack crap for your grip strength, though.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:22 AM  

LostGuy: I'll tell you a secret: some people are racists...

especially old white women.



I hope the irony there was intentional.
 
2012-10-05 10:04:20 AM  
This is awesome... I can't "afford" anything... free food!
 
2012-10-05 10:09:44 AM  
Heh, Democrats love everyone until they try to move in next door to them.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:36 AM  

foxyshadis: GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....

You mean a multinational corporate chain's food isn't actually created by farm wives picking and milling their own grains onsite while artisan bakers pull it out of the oven just as you order it? Who'd have thought. "It's not poisonous" and "tastes better than Wonder Bread" is all I'm expecting for the rare visit to Panera.

/Olive Garden breadsticks are also the only edible thing there; it's hard to fark up baked goods when the recipe is tightly controlled.
//Homemade bread can be one of the world's tastiest creations, but I have no patience for kneading.


It's still bread, any way you slice it. In a time of plenty we can eat much more healthy than the grain some of your ancestors settled with.
 
2012-10-05 10:28:28 AM  

PsyLord: /haz a case of the Fridays.


assets.unclutterer.com
 
2012-10-05 10:42:08 AM  

samardzic77: Willing to bet most of the people who have a problem with the increase in homeless traffic vote for Obama in a few weeks


As well, most of the people biatching in this thread would do the exact same if it was their own neighborhood. Smug liberalism is the weirdest thing to me, all you need to do is look at a a demographic map of New York City to realize virtually NOBODY likes to practice what they preach.
 
2012-10-05 10:43:00 AM  
Bloomberg Report
January 2013

"Panera Unexpectedly Files Bankruptcy"
 
2012-10-05 10:46:10 AM  

sallys: Isn't it racist to think that the bummy customers are not white? That's a little racial profiling going on right there.


Depends on the city. In Philly at least, the true bums are a pretty diverse group. About all they have in common is a dental plan and a uniform sheen of filth.
 
2012-10-05 10:57:42 AM  
Hey, did you guys hear about that earthquake in Haiti?! Terrible, just terrible...
 
2012-10-05 10:57:58 AM  

buckler: Wow. Welcome to three years ago, Subby. Panera's been doing this here since then. The only problem they had is with high-schoolers wanting to eat for free. They've since put a guy out front telling everyone that they are expected to pay for their meals. As I understand it, they're actually doing much better, money-wise, than the standard outlets.


Ummmmm well... Aren't high schoolers typically broke? Isn't the concept "pay what you can afford?", then wouldn't that be working as planned?

"Oh sorry sir, that wasn't what our corporate image intended"

How about college kids eating ramen three times a day? Now they can eat a decent healthy meal instead.

"No sorry, that doesn't count either, you still have to pay"

Hey I'm a regular middle class guy had an engineering job making 100k, got laid off now work two jobs without benefits, landscaping shoveling snow"

"no sorry, that doesn't count either. In fact, you'll have to pay more to cover our losses from giving so much free food away"

Jesus, this Panera thing is weirded than I thought. Pay what you can afford, but you still have to pay, or well kick you out. No that's not doublethink at all.
 
2012-10-05 11:04:16 AM  

ChuDogg: Pay what you can afford, but you still have to pay, or well kick you out. No that's not doublethink at all.


I can only pay a penny, because my Audi needs a new clutch.

They do have about the best bagels around here (SE MI). I wonder if they have the same menu and quality at the feelgood locations, or if it's downscale/days old.
 
2012-10-05 11:07:06 AM  
DanZero

You've been favorited. Total win.
 
2012-10-05 11:13:29 AM  

grinding_journalist: GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

So I am really getting a kick out of these replies.

Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about.

This is how bad info gets passed around.

If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do.

Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


Thank you for the unexpected laugh this morning!

/arbitrary Internet award goes here
 
2012-10-05 11:24:01 AM  
When I was younger that corner was home to hookers and drug dealers. Get over it Lincoln Parkers.
 
2012-10-05 11:26:59 AM  
LOL, open up a soup kitchen in the middle of an affluent marketplace, attract undesirables?
There's your wealth distribution!
 
2012-10-05 11:28:57 AM  

Milk D: abhorrent1: Ah, Lakeview douche-bags. Neck and neck in the race with Lincoln Park for douchiest douches.

you must live in Logan Square.


That's pretty funny. I actually did (Monticello & Fullerton) for 5 years. Lived in Buck town before that. Moved out of that fark-hole 6 years ago. The city and cook county went full retard years ago. I'll never live in cook again. Fark them.
 
2012-10-05 11:36:58 AM  

SlagginOff: I used to live a block away from that Panera, and I'm certainly not affluent (even less so at the time - straight out of college). That area has always been a mix of rich older people, broke post-college kids, and plenty of crazies and homeless. I don't see how this really changes anything other than the fact that now the homeless guys walking around can get a free meal instead of hassling the richies for a few bucks.


To the first part, this. I lived a few blocks from that intersection for a few years, right out of college -- close to minimum wage, studio apartment. There are plenty of cheap apartments (in terms of amenities, not necessarily rental price) in the neighborhood, catering to a young crowd. There's also an assisted living complex about a block away, which likely isn't cheap (I haven't priced it), but has residents with little pocket money.

To the second part, not so much this. The bums don't stop hassling people just because they can get free food. Nor do they discriminate who they approach. That means it's plenty of poor older folks and younger women getting accosted by certainly dirty, potentially crazy guys hanging around.
 
2012-10-05 11:55:31 AM  

gerrymander: SlagginOff: I used to live a block away from that Panera, and I'm certainly not affluent (even less so at the time - straight out of college). That area has always been a mix of rich older people, broke post-college kids, and plenty of crazies and homeless. I don't see how this really changes anything other than the fact that now the homeless guys walking around can get a free meal instead of hassling the richies for a few bucks.

To the first part, this. I lived a few blocks from that intersection for a few years, right out of college -- close to minimum wage, studio apartment. There are plenty of cheap apartments (in terms of amenities, not necessarily rental price) in the neighborhood, catering to a young crowd. There's also an assisted living complex about a block away, which likely isn't cheap (I haven't priced it), but has residents with little pocket money.

To the second part, not so much this. The bums don't stop hassling people just because they can get free food. Nor do they discriminate who they approach. That means it's plenty of poor older folks and younger women getting accosted by certainly dirty, potentially crazy guys hanging around.


You're right. I guess my main point was that it's not like the crowd in the area - especially that intersection - is not going to be much different than it has been for years.
 
2012-10-05 11:57:11 AM  

SlagginOff: gerrymander: SlagginOff: I used to live a block away from that Panera, and I'm certainly not affluent (even less so at the time - straight out of college). That area has always been a mix of rich older people, broke post-college kids, and plenty of crazies and homeless. I don't see how this really changes anything other than the fact that now the homeless guys walking around can get a free meal instead of hassling the richies for a few bucks.

To the first part, this. I lived a few blocks from that intersection for a few years, right out of college -- close to minimum wage, studio apartment. There are plenty of cheap apartments (in terms of amenities, not necessarily rental price) in the neighborhood, catering to a young crowd. There's also an assisted living complex about a block away, which likely isn't cheap (I haven't priced it), but has residents with little pocket money.

To the second part, not so much this. The bums don't stop hassling people just because they can get free food. Nor do they discriminate who they approach. That means it's plenty of poor older folks and younger women getting accosted by certainly dirty, potentially crazy guys hanging around.

You're right. I guess my main point was that it's not like the crowd in the area - especially that intersection - is not going to be much different than it has been for years.


Wow I worded that poorly. The crowd is not going to change as a result of this initiative by Panera.
 
2012-10-05 01:13:28 PM  
I'll bet many of those concerned people drone on at soirees and political events about how we need to help the downtrodden. A great many love humanity in the abstract, not in noisome reality outside their expensive condos.
 
2012-10-05 01:21:53 PM  

E5bie: foxyshadis: GratefullyAlive: I know Panera....

I was the ONLY baker to GM in Saint Louis...

Panera is a mirror game...start thinking people!

It only Looks healthy!

that is all....

You mean a multinational corporate chain's food isn't actually created by farm wives picking and milling their own grains onsite while artisan bakers pull it out of the oven just as you order it? Who'd have thought. "It's not poisonous" and "tastes better than Wonder Bread" is all I'm expecting for the rare visit to Panera.

/Olive Garden breadsticks are also the only edible thing there; it's hard to fark up baked goods when the recipe is tightly controlled.
//Homemade bread can be one of the world's tastiest creations, but I have no patience for kneading.

A mixer with a dough hook could knead it for ya, or a bread machine (but YMMV quality varies).
I like kneading dough. It's like giving a sensuous massage to a sweet, quiet person you can eat later.



I make bread frequently. As far as I'm concerned, a dough hook and a powerful mixer are essential. I don't beat my clothes on rocks, slaughter my own hogs, nor get out of my dadgummed chair to change the channel on the teevee, and I'm not going to knead bread by hand.
 
2012-10-05 01:23:37 PM  
People were biatching about this before it even opened. I live a bit further north on Broadway but I've been there. It was fine. The homeless wackos have always been there, it's NIMBY plain and simple.
 
2012-10-05 02:02:08 PM  
There are homeless people in.... *gasp*.... the third largest city in the nation?!??!
 
Sheesh, people.  I lived in the 'burbs of Chicago for 30+ years.  Went to school and worked in downtown Chicago for many years.  Its part of life.  Give them a buck or two or ignore them.  Its not that hard.  Only once did a homeless person actually acost me when I ignored him. 
 
And it was actually kinda funny.  I passed him by, no eye contact.  He followed me yelling "What, are you farking depressed or something?!?"
 
2012-10-05 02:09:06 PM  
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
_Anatole France

"People who treat other people as less than human must not be surprised when the bread they have cast on the waters comes floating back to them, poisoned."
_James A. Baldwin

"Bread for myself is a material question. Bread for my neighbor is a spiritual one."
_Nikolai Berdyaev

"Men can starve from a lack of self-realization as much as they can from a lack of bread."
_Richard Wright


How DARE the poors come into MY neighborhood and buy BREAD!!!!!! Why don't the poors go back to their poor neighborhood and buy their poor bread? They scare my shiatzu! 

/reason 2,567,890 why some wealthy people are despised
 
2012-10-05 02:22:19 PM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Why actually change the name of the store with a big "we care" sign? Makes it look like a PR thing. Just do a stand up sign at the door or posters in windows. Farking American culture, we can't take a shiat without being self-promoting.


Probably because they're trying to say 'hey, this is really intended for people who are having issues'. It's not so much PR as trying to convey exactly what they're trying to do, which isn't really a bad thing to put in a name.
 
2012-10-05 02:26:11 PM  
Bread bread.

Their name is silly. It's like naming a place "Lata de Frijoles Beans" or "Jarra de Aqua Water".
 
2012-10-05 02:30:59 PM  

kingoomieiii: FTFA: "A crowd of guys won't let you though a sidewalk. That's invasive."

Police have met with community leaders to discuss concerns about homeless people in the area of the Panera Cares, but say there is no proof of a correlation between the restaurant's opening and any increase in crime.

What I'm seeing here is that people are annoyed that they have to encounter and, gasp, be PHYSICALLY NEAR homeless people that they have lived near probably for years. People that aren't actually committing any crimes.

It's a good thing Panera cares, because the people of Chicago Lakeview sure farking don't.


It's an upper-middle-class neighborhood that thinks that part of their high rents or mortgages is the right to never have to see anyone lower-class than them, ever. It's not that far from Boystown, Chicago's remaining (and shrinking) gayborhood, where the Center on Halsted has drawn a lot of controversy because a) it's brought an "undesirable element" to the neighborhood, and an ensuing (and well-hidden) crime wave, or b) a bunch of white male gay yuppies are having the vapors at having to share their sidewalks, for a small part of the day, with LGBT teenagers of color who, unlike most of them, were actually born in Chicago.
 
2012-10-05 02:43:30 PM  
If you live in a city within easy distance from public transportation, you are going to have to deal with it.
 
2012-10-05 03:30:13 PM  
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2012-10-05 06:51:30 PM  
Feed em free, it will give them the energy to steal bigger items.
 
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