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2012-10-05 02:51:33 AM
God Damn it BSA.............

Take my Eagle medal you bigoted pieces of shiat, and farking choke on it

Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow, and former JASM. I am very proud of me Eagle rank. I worked really hard for it. I spent many a weekend recycling glass, cleaning roads, dump sites, park trails, building bird houses, and a myriad of other worthy community causes. Boy Scouts taught me how to lead, be independant, and an all around decent human being. I learned skills in Scouts that use every single day of my life. I have Eagle Scout on my resume, and for the first time in my life it's accomplishment I'm considering removing.

Damn you and your pseudo-christian Bullshiat. Damn you for ruining one of the greatest things from my childhood. You old bigoted self righteous bastards. I hate you. This young man for all appearances seems to exemplify everything scouting is supposed to stand for, and you blatantly deny him something he very much deserves. Damn you damn you damn you. I've had it.

I just found a website called scoutingforall. They have an address to send my badges and awards to. They'll be soon getting a box with my uniform, OA sash, and felt box that holds my most precious childhood accomplishment. I was going to send it to the BSA, but I think sending it to scoutingforall might be better.
 
2012-10-05 03:16:09 AM

Weaver95: . don't like it, don't join the organization.


Way late, but:
You outright ignored the actual problem here. A child joining the boy scouts (or his parents making him join) probably isn't going to know his sexual preference before spending a few years in the group. To place all the "blame" on them when they come to a realization and are forced to choose between being honest to themselves or hiding like a hunchback is damned silly.

Regardless, a government should not be sponsoring in ANY way a group that is so blatantly "only these groups allowed" discriminatory. Whether they're rather benign, or as destructive as the KKK, it really doesn't matter.
 
2012-10-05 03:16:59 AM

mighty_maxx: God Damn it BSA.............

Take my Eagle medal you bigoted pieces of shiat, and farking choke on it

Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow, and former JASM. I am very proud of me Eagle rank. I worked really hard for it. I spent many a weekend recycling glass, cleaning roads, dump sites, park trails, building bird houses, and a myriad of other worthy community causes. Boy Scouts taught me how to lead, be independant, and an all around decent human being. I learned skills in Scouts that use every single day of my life. I have Eagle Scout on my resume, and for the first time in my life it's accomplishment I'm considering removing.

Damn you and your pseudo-christian Bullshiat. Damn you for ruining one of the greatest things from my childhood. You old bigoted self righteous bastards. I hate you. This young man for all appearances seems to exemplify everything scouting is supposed to stand for, and you blatantly deny him something he very much deserves. Damn you damn you damn you. I've had it.

I just found a website called scoutingforall. They have an address to send my badges and awards to. They'll be soon getting a box with my uniform, OA sash, and felt box that holds my most precious childhood accomplishment. I was going to send it to the BSA, but I think sending it to scoutingforall might be better.


From another eagle scout who already sent in his medal and OA sash: physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
 
2012-10-05 03:27:31 AM

Cheesus: They're a private organization and they can make whatever rules they want. My only complaint is forcing kids to attend their advertising pitches in public school.


Except that the BSA are kinda not a private organization since they benefit from government support.
 
2012-10-05 03:28:59 AM

PsyLord: Sure. Time to revoke their tax exempt status and federal funding.


You know, if Romney really wants to save money by cutting minor items from the budget, maybe there's some other organization he could deep-six instead of PBS.
 
2012-10-05 03:35:39 AM

cardex: Except most kids that make it egal start scouts in 2nd grade long before they think about sex at all so it's not a matter of not joining if your gay its them kicking out someone who worked 9 years


Being gay (or any other part of lbgtq) isn't necessarily about wanting to have sex with anyone. I knew I was bisexual in 4th grade. I wasn't thinking about having sex or even kissing anyone. I just knew in the 4th grade that you were supposed to like girls ONE way and like boys ANOTHER way and people thought it was bad and weird to like girls the same way you liked boys. I didn't know what "one way" and "another way" even WERE --- I just knew that they were supposed to be different somehow.
 
2012-10-05 03:44:25 AM
When you earn Eagle Scout & enlist in the military don't you don't you automatically get a higher "rank" to Private First Class? Maybe it's time for that honor to be discontinued.
 
2012-10-05 03:47:15 AM
On account of ongoing research in old newspapers on microfilm, I occasionally read Scouting columns that appeared in the mid-1930s.
All I can say is, Damn, you had to be smart just to earn merit badges back then!

Now, while I sympathize with the viewpoint of many who say It's a private group, stay away if you don't agree with their value set, I also believe in the dictum, "Those to whom much has been given, much is expected."

Meaning, Boy Scouts, you have a long and distinguished brand in which countless generations have place their trust and respect. Educated society now expects you not to slink off into the shadows of bigotry and ignorance, but to accept the demonstrable reality: Gays are not boogeymen and gay children are not defective, nor do they merit exclusion from your group. Anyone who interprets the Christian Bible as justifying otherwise is tragically wrong.
 
2012-10-05 03:47:38 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Weaver95:
not exactly the same sorts of organizations after all, are they?

I think the main branch, the Mormons themselves, offer the best comparison in this situation.

The Mormons buckled and accepted black people as human in 1978.
It will happen again with gays, but I think the Mormons and Catholics will be the last bulwarks against them.


The Official Declaration on blacks holding the priesthood was a pragmatic solution to a very real problem -- there weren't enough white priesthood holders to keep up with the explosive growth of the church in Brazil. It had nothing to do with civil rights or acceptance. The Mormons are going to be much more reluctant to accept homosexuality.

/gay
//ex-Mormon
///slashies are back in style
 
2012-10-05 03:50:40 AM

Gyrfalcon: People suck. I'm moving to Mars.


No, not Mars. Boy Scouts Are From Mars, Girl Scouts Are From Venus. Find another planet.
 
2012-10-05 04:05:02 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers:
The Official Declaration on blacks holding the priesthood was a pragmatic solution to a very real problem -- there weren't enough white priesthood holders to keep up with the explosive growth of the church in Brazil. It had nothing to do with civil rights or acceptance. The Mormons are going to be much more reluctant to accept homosexuality.

/gay
//ex-Mormon
///slashies are back in style


Seriously? Damn, I need to read up on it. Thank you, sir.
Clever little hellspawn.
 
2012-10-05 04:07:03 AM

WxGuy1: The problem, as others have stated above (and as the parent in TFA says), is that young CHILDREN join the cub scouts. These are 6-8 year olds who have no sexual feeling or identities.


Your point is valid, but just to nitpick. Children develop gender identity by age 3. Many transgender children identify as the opposite gender often from age two or three.. A significant percentage of homosexual (or bisexual) children at least have an inkling by age 10.

In my own personal experience, as I mentioned already in this thread, I knew by 4th grade. I probably knew on some level before then, but 4th grade is the earliest clear memory I have of needing to HIDE my sexual orientation from other people.

To give one example Bobby Montoya is a transgender girl who joined the Girl Scouts when she was 7 years old.
 
2012-10-05 04:10:59 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Keizer_Ghidorah:
God doesn't give a flying shiat about who you love and find attractive, why should we?

You speak for god?


That's ... kinda ironic coming from someone with the handle "God-is-a-Taco," you know.
 
2012-10-05 04:34:42 AM
where is it declared which god they are referring to, and why isn't anyone challenging the board on it (least of all it forces them to do at least one of 2 things, 1- declare that they speak for god (which is blasphemous from what i recall in a few religions), 2- declare what type of religious type they are beholden to)?

cause who ever came up with the nail of "not doing your 'duty to god' via 'being gay'" just gave the person denied eagle scout status a rather massive hammer to seal that coffin.
 
2012-10-05 04:44:28 AM

SuperTran: This same thing happened to me. Parents and church found out about teh gay a week before my board of review. Refused to recommend me for my Eagle.

/Damn Morons.


FTFY
 
2012-10-05 05:10:49 AM
I was Cub scout and a boy scout and i am proud of that. but i am disgusted with the organization.
 
2012-10-05 05:31:23 AM
Kingly Weevil
This makes me so sad because scouting was a program I enjoyed very much when I was a kid. At the time I of course didn't understand bigotry at the time, and never saw any examples of it myself while participating.

I just wish everyone could have the same great experiences that I had in it, and that the program would quit publicly shaming itself. This seriously makes me a little ashamed to be an Eagle Scout. I want to mail them my patch and tell them that I don't want it if he can't have his.

THIS. I didn't make eagle, but was order of the arrow and senior patrol leader. Had "speedy" (old gay guy) as one of the "leaders". Never made any moves. Being gay myself, before knowing what the f@ck then, all of us in summer camp did a jerk-off. See who is biggest. My god shortest guy was HUNG. As in jaw dropping BIG. Good thing I didn't have any tendencies back then...
 
2012-10-05 05:56:42 AM
This just makes me very sad.
 
2012-10-05 06:13:34 AM
And late Thursday, the Boy Scouts of America said in a statement that because of Andresen's sexual orientation and that he did not agree to Scouting's principle of "Duty to God," "he is no longer eligible for membership in Scouting."

/And that's the game, thanks for playing folks. Good luck getting anyone except ultra right wing conservatives in the scouts. This statement and your lack of reporting child buggering makes you seem as bad as the catholic church, who's membership is declining. Good job.
 
2012-10-05 06:14:26 AM
Discrimination is bad, but I also sort of don't want my son camping in the woods with other boys who are homosexuals, just like I wouldn't want him camping with girls.
 
2012-10-05 06:17:58 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't trust him around children either.
 
2012-10-05 06:24:01 AM

ransack.: Discrimination is bad, but I also sort of don't want my son camping in the woods with other boys who are homosexuals, just like I wouldn't want him camping with girls.


Girls are allowed in scouts around here (and I suspect so are luvers of their own sex.)

Mind you the BEST times I ever had at scouts was at the mixed Guides & Scouts Jamborees - why should the gays get all the fun :p
 
2012-10-05 06:28:09 AM
Oy vey. Way to go, BSA.
 
2012-10-05 06:32:30 AM

ciberido: God-is-a-Taco: Keizer_Ghidorah:
God doesn't give a flying shiat about who you love and find attractive, why should we?

You speak for god?

That's ... kinda ironic coming from someone with the handle "God-is-a-Taco," you know.


All I did was identify his corporeal form. I won't claim to speak of his crunchy ways.

He did tell me that you're getting coal in your stockings this year, though.
 
2012-10-05 06:49:28 AM

Alonjar: I'm not homophobic.. but


Yes. Yes you are.

/never follow up a denial with a "but"
 
2012-10-05 07:03:44 AM

Alonjar: For the record, I support peoples right to be gay.. if that does it for you, good for you.

HOWEVER... you cant deny the elephant in the room in regards to gay scout masters/elders. While it sucks to paint innocent gays with such a tainted brush, I can understand the concerns of parents with leaving their children under the supervision of gay adults who actively seek interaction with little boys. Its just... sketchy. The boy scouts of america have an image to keep up, and saying "leave your little boy with gay uncle jimmy!" just leaves a bad taste in most peoples mouths.

I'm not homophobic.. but theres just certain things people wont be comfortable with, and this is one of them. The risk of damaging the reputation of the boy scouts in the same fashion as the Catholic church is too large for them to bear, and I understand.

I'm not saying its right... but I understand.


Then they should stop taking taxpayers money for funding. Actually the government should basically state that.
If I had got to eagle scouts (I didn't, I discovered girls) I would send this guy my badge
 
2012-10-05 07:21:54 AM
farked up that they said he couldn't be an Eagle scout because he likes cock.

farked up that someone signed up on that stupid farking wall as an Eagle project.
 
2012-10-05 07:28:00 AM

stiletto_the_wise: Weaver95: so you really, honestly believe that the Boy Scouts are in all ways identical to the KKK? that's what yer going with here?

I never said "in all ways". In the particular way called "being a hate group" I would say they are the same, apart from their targets.


So are Democrats. Everyone is a hate group.
 
2012-10-05 07:41:30 AM

unlikely: fark these guys.

Next time I walk into a grocery store and they're trying to sell me popcorn I will say "sorry, I'm gay" and keep walking.

No need to be rude or anything, just no way I'm supporting them any more.


We're selling popc
 
2012-10-05 07:48:12 AM

Weaver95: I don't know why you'd care in the first place. you don't have to like the BSA 'no gays' rule but it's their club house...they can make up whatever rules they want for their membership. SCOTUS even said so


I don't know if you can really say it is "their" clubhouse when the govt does give them support.
 
2012-10-05 08:02:55 AM

Dalrint: I have seen several examples in this thread that 'pedophile scout masters' make people wary of gay scouts. What? If some guy goes around raping young girls, that doesn't make everyone suddenly suspect all the straight people of being pedophiles. And yet it's perfectly acceptable to make that assumption about gays because of a few pedophiles.

And this is putting aside that pedophilia is *not* the same as being gay, regardless of what gender they commit the crime against.

/I'm tired and annoyed so I hope that made sense.


I'd be more comfortable leaving my daughter with a gay male. If that gay male is a pedophile, he would seek out boys to molest and not my daughter. I'd be much less comfortable leaving my daughter in the care of a straight male.

Likewise, if my son is going on an overnight trip under the supervision of some guy, I'd be much more comfortable if that guy were straight and not gay. Because gay pedophiles molest boys.

And pedophilia isn't equal to gay, you are correct. But if a guy molests a boy, he's gay. By definition.
 
2012-10-05 08:04:05 AM

liam76: Weaver95: I don't know why you'd care in the first place. you don't have to like the BSA 'no gays' rule but it's their club house...they can make up whatever rules they want for their membership. SCOTUS even said so

I don't know if you can really say it is "their" clubhouse when the govt does give them support.


How much support is given to the boy scouts? In what form?
 
2012-10-05 08:07:41 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Dalrint: I have seen several examples in this thread that 'pedophile scout masters' make people wary of gay scouts. What? If some guy goes around raping young girls, that doesn't make everyone suddenly suspect all the straight people of being pedophiles. And yet it's perfectly acceptable to make that assumption about gays because of a few pedophiles.

And this is putting aside that pedophilia is *not* the same as being gay, regardless of what gender they commit the crime against.

/I'm tired and annoyed so I hope that made sense.

I'd be more comfortable leaving my daughter with a gay male. If that gay male is a pedophile, he would seek out boys to molest and not my daughter. I'd be much less comfortable leaving my daughter in the care of a straight male.

Likewise, if my son is going on an overnight trip under the supervision of some guy, I'd be much more comfortable if that guy were straight and not gay. Because gay pedophiles molest boys.

And pedophilia isn't equal to gay, you are correct. But if a guy molests a boy, he's gay. By definition.


Sadly they will never admit that.
 
2012-10-05 08:13:11 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: obamadidcoke: Not allowing homosexuals doesn't make BSA a hate group. I belong to both the American Bar Association and the VFW both of these organizations have exclusionary membership requirements, but they are not hate groups.

Do they require you not to be gay, or not black, or not something that's biological and unchangeable? If not, then you just made a really stupid attempt at a comparison.


Are boy scouts a hate group against women?

I don't agree with the BSA's stance, I think it is BS given their stance (on gays and religion) that they get federal assistance, but there is agrey area between "can't join" and "hate group".
 
2012-10-05 08:30:50 AM

Babwa Wawa: A "tolerance wall" is some kind of f*&cking copout for an Eagle project. An eagle service project should involve at least 40 person-hours of work.


I agree and so I was thinking "Maybe he didn't get the project approved before he went ahead with it.... Maybe the kid really just didn't earn the rank..."

But then I saw this in the article
"But a spokesman for the Boys Scouts, Deron Smith, told NBC News in a statement that Andresen recently "notified his unit leadership and Eagle Scout Counselor that he does not agree to Scouting's principle of 'Duty to God' and does not meet Scouting's membership standard on sexual orientation. "


Maybe the project didn't meet the requirements BUT the statement from the BSA cites that the kid himself notified the scouts that he doesn't qualify for membership in the organization. Sorry kid, they have rules and you didn't follow them. (I don't agree with the rules about the ghey and the god, but those are the rules)

Kid shoulda gamed the system by staying in the closet until he had the eagle then held the biggest, baddest, gayest, boy scout themed coming out party on the planet. AND invited the national news.
OR
Made his service project a presentation about the negative effects of discrimination on a society.

\ Cub scout leader (non-pedophile type)
\\ I always tell folks that my goal in scouting is helping good boys grow into good men.
\\\ Good men don't discriminate, neither should the BSA
 
2012-10-05 08:37:11 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: liam76: Weaver95: I don't know why you'd care in the first place. you don't have to like the BSA 'no gays' rule but it's their club house...they can make up whatever rules they want for their membership. SCOTUS even said so

I don't know if you can really say it is "their" clubhouse when the govt does give them support.

How much support is given to the boy scouts? In what form?


Are you unaware of their preferential treatment in many towns and cities? You were a boy scout right, never had a meeting in a school?

In cases where they don't get it over their stance they have been suing ?

You didn't know that the 2005 Jamboree, alone, cost the Us taxpayers about 8 million dollars?

How about the "Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act"?

In January 2006, Congress included the "Support Our Scouts Act of 2005" in its defense authorization bill. This law requires the Department of Defense to provide at least the same level of support for the BSA's national and world Jamborees as in past years. This law also requires any state or local government entity that receives Community Development Block Grant money from the Department of Housing and Urban Development to allow BSA to have meetings in their facilities or on their property. This requirement would override any of these entities' own anti-discrimination laws or regulations forbidding access to a discriminatory group such as the BSA. (linked above)

I got no problem with the BSA taking whatever stance they want on gays, or religion, but thwne they get that level of govt support it is farking BS.
 
2012-10-05 08:39:00 AM

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: Babwa Wawa: A "tolerance wall" is some kind of f*&cking copout for an Eagle project. An eagle service project should involve at least 40 person-hours of work.

I agree and so I was thinking "Maybe he didn't get the project approved before he went ahead with it.... Maybe the kid really just didn't earn the rank..."

But then I saw this in the article
"But a spokesman for the Boys Scouts, Deron Smith, told NBC News in a statement that Andresen recently "notified his unit leadership and Eagle Scout Counselor that he does not agree to Scouting's principle of 'Duty to God' and does not meet Scouting's membership standard on sexual orientation. "


Maybe the project didn't meet the requirements BUT the statement from the BSA cites that the kid himself notified the scouts that he doesn't qualify for membership in the organization. Sorry kid, they have rules and you didn't follow them. (I don't agree with the rules about the ghey and the god, but those are the rules)

Kid shoulda gamed the system by staying in the closet until he had the eagle then held the biggest, baddest, gayest, boy scout themed coming out party on the planet. AND invited the national news.
OR
Made his service project a presentation about the negative effects of discrimination on a society.

\ Cub scout leader (non-pedophile type)
\\ I always tell folks that my goal in scouting is helping good boys grow into good men.
\\\ Good men don't discriminate, neither should the BSA


deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-05 08:41:10 AM
Time for some one to stop crying and start their own "Gay Scouts".
 
2012-10-05 08:52:54 AM
The organization itself is structured to allow discrimination against atheists and homosexuals. Individual troops have to be complicit in order for that discrimination to actually take place. There are plenty of troops that welcome atheists and homosexuals. However, it is unfortunate that it just takes one douchebag on the troop committee to start f*cking things up.
I'm sorry... I'm not sure if you're discussing the Boy Scouts or the SS. Which was it again?
 
2012-10-05 08:55:32 AM
A Scout is:
Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful,
Friendly, Courteous, Kind,
Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty,
Brave, Clean, Reverent, and stays well away from those icky gays,
unless scout leader John comes into your tent at night, that will be our little secret
 
2012-10-05 08:56:06 AM

clintp: The organization itself is structured to allow discrimination against atheists and homosexuals. Individual troops have to be complicit in order for that discrimination to actually take place. There are plenty of troops that welcome atheists and homosexuals. However, it is unfortunate that it just takes one douchebag on the troop committee to start f*cking things up.I'm sorry... I'm not sure if you're discussing the Boy Scouts or the SS. Which was it again?


So does that mean the Vetrans of Foreign Wars is discriminating against everyone who was not deployed to combat zone? That is a requirement of membership. Get your own club and stop trying to takeover someone elses club.
 
2012-10-05 09:03:41 AM

Joe Blowme: Time for some one to stop crying and start their own "Gay Scouts".


Sure, so long as the government yanks all the support it gave the Boy Scouts and gives it all to the Gay Scouts instead. 

Maybe you could be a Scoutmaster, err, I mean, Gaymaster.
 
2012-10-05 09:05:16 AM

Joe Blowme: So does that mean the Vetrans of Foreign Wars is discriminating against everyone who was not deployed to combat zone?


VFW welcomes people who have earned their medals and then come out.

Joe Blowme: Get your own club and stop trying to takeover someone elses club


When the "club" in question gets serious financial and material support from the govt, then it is my club.
 
2012-10-05 09:06:48 AM

ciberido: Joe Blowme: Time for some one to stop crying and start their own "Gay Scouts".

Sure, so long as the government yanks all the support it gave the Boy Scouts and gives it all to the Gay Scouts instead. 

Maybe you could be a Scoutmaster, err, I mean, Gaymaster.


Im sure they too can apply for support, gov cant descriminate. So what is your deal again? Too lazy to do all the set up work yourself to create your own club?
 
2012-10-05 09:08:16 AM

liam76: Joe Blowme: So does that mean the Vetrans of Foreign Wars is discriminating against everyone who was not deployed to combat zone?

VFW welcomes people who have earned their medals and then come out.

Joe Blowme: Get your own club and stop trying to takeover someone elses club

When the "club" in question gets serious financial and material support from the govt, then it is my club.


Yes but they have to be deployed to combat zone to qualify for membership.
 
2012-10-05 09:14:16 AM

The Saturday Night Massacre: A Scout is:

Trustworthy,
Loyal,
Helpful,
Friendly,
Courteous,
Kind,
Obedient,
Cheerful,
Thrifty,
Brave,
Clean,
and Reverent. 

"Straight" notably absent......


"On my honor I will do my best to do my duty, to God and my country. To obey the scout law, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight" - scout oath

Now, I am not of the opinion that "morally straight" excludes homosexuals, but the powers at be in scouting are.

I really hate this too, scouting helped me develop discipline, get over my borderline OCD, and foster my love of camping. The vast majority of scout troops don't give a shiat if you're gay or an atheist. We had at least one atheist in our troop and just told him to hush up about the religion requirements. If we had had an openly gay scout, I'm sure we would have welcomed him too. The real issue is that the upper leadership are too old and too...mormon. It's a fantastic organization, but there needs to be a serious change at the highest levels.
 
2012-10-05 09:15:35 AM
Penn and Teller - Full Episode on The Boy Scouts, and how the Mormon Church has hijacked it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndoP1YW72Zk
Link
 
2012-10-05 09:15:58 AM

DrPainMD: Yeah, yeah... we get it. Boy Scouts isn't open to gays. Big deal. Since it's a private organization, it's none of your business. No different from groups that are only open to gays. I have a great idea: join organizations that you want to join, and don't join those that you don't want to join. Unless you're against people living their lives the way they want, doing what they want to do and associating with who they want. In which case, you're just as bigoted and intolerant as they are.


How is it possible you missed the comment 4 above yours that shows it is not in fact a completely "private" group, as it was originally chartered by Congress? Your troll is weak too, equating discrimination and intolerance of discrimination is full retard.
 
2012-10-05 09:16:19 AM

Joe Blowme: Yes but they have to be deployed to combat zone to qualify for membership


Yes, and they have gay people who have done that.

deosn't have fark all to do with the BSA.


Joe Blowme: Im sure they too can apply for support, gov cant descriminate. So what is your deal again? Too lazy to do all the set up work yourself to create your own club


Govt can, and does.

I an not going to re-post the indivicdual links, btu the govt gives a lot of support to the BSA that wouldn't be there for a new group.


liam76: Are you unaware of their preferential treatment in many towns and cities? You were a boy scout right, never had a meeting in a school?

In cases where they don't get it over their stance they have been suing ?

You didn't know that the 2005 Jamboree, alone, cost the Us taxpayers about 8 million dollars?

How about the "Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act"?

In January 2006, Congress included the "Support Our Scouts Act of 2005" in its defense authorization bill. This law requires the Department of Defense to provide at least the same level of support for the BSA's national and world Jamborees as in past years. This law also requires any state or local government entity that receives Community Development Block Grant money from the Department of Housing and Urban Development to allow BSA to have meetings in their facilities or on their property. This requirement would override any of these entities' own anti-discrimination laws or regulations forbidding access to a discriminatory group such as the BSA. (linked above)

I got no problem with the BSA taking whatever stance they want on gays, or religion, but thwne they get that level of govt support it is farking BS

 
2012-10-05 09:16:21 AM

Theaetetus: DrPainMD: No different from groups that are only open to gays.

Which of these cover up for their child rapist members?
Catholic Church
Boy Scouts of America
Log Cabin Republicans

/right... no difference...


You forgot to include the GLBTA. It isn't straight dudes who are raping those boys.
 
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