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2012-10-04 08:56:17 PM  
Rocky Mountain high?


/colorado
 
2012-10-04 08:58:52 PM  
i.imgur.com

And I'm gonna be......HIGH.....
 
2012-10-04 09:03:44 PM  
i.imgur.com

Dude needed to chill out a bit beforehand. Like Biden would have. It was Colorado, after all.

/I can't wait for the VP Debate. I hope Biden cracks a cold one at the podium.
 
2012-10-04 09:11:31 PM  
In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.
 
2012-10-04 09:32:11 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.


Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you
 
2012-10-04 09:45:09 PM  
Denver can make one feel out of shape when one is a lowlander.  Not that I've ever experienced that hiking and feeling like I was going to cough up a lung or anything.  I heard this from a second cousin's fiance that was from Guam, you wouldn't know her.
 
2012-10-04 10:47:29 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet

Who did he beat after McCain?
Last I saw his party was shellacked in the 2010 mid terms.



and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid,

ohhh, that was a hard decision that only took 6 months. No one else would have done that.

shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq.
yeah, following Bush's plan was so hard to do.

But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything
looks like you aren't up to speed with politifact



face it, 0bama couldn't deal with pressure of actually having someone question him about his performance using these things called "facts" that he is so unfamiliar with ("oohh, let me tell them another heart warming story about my grandma")

He was coddled by the press.
He wins the noble prize for doing nothing.
He rarely had press conferences and when he did they were "tell me how cool it is to be you".
He is afraid to meet world leaders so he goes on The View itself.

Yes, he couldn't deal with the pressure and it showed.
 
2012-10-04 11:21:04 PM  
Obama was in a no-win situation. If he'd come out as aggressive against Romney, he'd have been lambasted and beaten up in the press. This of course made many of his supporters angry, and got the press asking the question, why didn't he go after Romney?

Now for the next two debates, when he does go after Romney, instead of being lambasted in the press and public, people will see him as getting it together and really debating. Now he's got everyone's permission to go be a bulldog, and he won't receive the criticism he'd have gotten last night.

It's the same thing he did to McCain. Obama is a long-plan thinker.
 
2012-10-04 11:42:40 PM  
I think what he was saying was AL-titude. Obama was too high on Al Gore.
 
2012-10-05 12:01:43 AM  

Kimothy: Obama was in a no-win situation. If he'd come out as aggressive against Romney, he'd have been lambasted and beaten up in the press. This of course made many of his supporters angry, and got the press asking the question, why didn't he go after Romney?

Now for the next two debates, when he does go after Romney, instead of being lambasted in the press and public, people will see him as getting it together and really debating. Now he's got everyone's permission to go be a bulldog, and he won't receive the criticism he'd have gotten last night.

It's the same thing he did to McCain. Obama is a long-plan thinker.


I'm a fairly strong Obama supporter, but I really don't know if that was his strategy. I hope you're right, but I'm not betting on it. But let's assume for a minute you're right, because a guy as smart as Obama, I just can't see him not realizing that he's being beaten in what I would assume is a key debate. I think there was something else going on. He was getting some really easy attack vectors from Romney. I mean Romney kept repeating the $716 billion lie. He mentioned green energy, something I know Obama can talk about better than he did. There were a lot of weird indicators that Obama was holding back.

Now there are some possibilities from an overall Democratic strategy standpoint which have interesting implications. A lot of monied people were thinking of stopping donations to Romney's campaign entirely and focusing on Congressional races in the House and Senate. What if Obama wants to keep the money coming into Romney's coffers, thereby depleting the money that could be used in Congressional and Senatorial campaigns? Would that not be a brilliant move, if you were really that good at the game? Possibly, but then if he and his guys were really that good, you'd think he would have been better at finding points of compromise within the Congress - unless those jackoffs are really that goddamn thickheaded, which is a very real possibility.

I'm thinking debates 2 and 3 will clear up a lot of things.
 
2012-10-05 12:12:47 AM  

Somacandra: /I can't wait for the VP Debate. I hope Biden cracks a cold one at the podium.


"Ryan, you're a lying, worthless sack of cat shiat. When you have something important to say you can pipe right up, but for the time being why don't you run out and grab me a sixer of Old Milwaukee, Buttercup."
 
2012-10-05 12:13:18 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you


Why ARE you even bothering with it?
 
2012-10-05 12:13:35 AM  
Where was Air Tank 1?
 
2012-10-05 12:13:57 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you


Grrrr, someones mad that Glorious Leader didn't have his teleprompter.
 
2012-10-05 12:14:07 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.


Cute.
 
2012-10-05 12:15:59 AM  

SouthParkCon: Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you

Grrrr, someones mad that Glorious Leader didn't have his teleprompter.


Hard to use a teleprompter when you're dead.

Wait...you weren't talkign about Kim Jong Il?
 
2012-10-05 12:20:16 AM  
I've lived at an elevation of 35 feet most of my life. I recently went to Colorado Springs for 3 days. I went hiking at the Garden of the Gods the same day I flew in. Felt just fine. Never felt out of breath or light headed.
 
2012-10-05 12:21:59 AM  
This is some weak sauce excusing making by Gore. I'm not a fan of either party but my understanding is that Obama pretty much got owned in the first debate because it seemed like he didn't want to be there. Small wonder a guy who has done his best to avoid any serious press for what seems like ages wouldn't want to have to answer difficult questions about how his policies have failed. Time to schedule another hard hitting segment on The View I guess.
 
2012-10-05 12:24:08 AM  
Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.
 
2012-10-05 12:24:16 AM  

Brubold: Small wonder a guy who has done his best to avoid any serious press for what seems like ages wouldn't want to have to answer difficult questions about how his policies have failed.


That would certainly explain Romney.
 
2012-10-05 12:26:07 AM  

bdub77: There were a lot of weird indicators that Obama was holding back. Now there are some possibilities from an overall Democratic strategy standpoint which have interesting implications.


From what little of the debate I managed to catch--it was obvious that Obama was behaving like a candidate who's own base is sewn up and reaching out to enlarge his lead with independents and moderate Republicans. He doesn't have to energize his base anymore---the convention did that. He talked slowly, relatively calmly and took care to maintain his gravitas. Mitt "We are all children of the same God" Romney is still trying to excite his base and convince Evangelical Protestants to vote for a Mormon. He's trying to use an aggressive style to fuel his base while claiming his content is mainstream friendly on TV before walking it back afterwards. He'll tighten the race a bit but in historical terms its probably too late to turn it around. If he's not gaining new ground every single day he's losing. The clock is now against Romney--exactly Obama's favorite position to be in, if you recall the campaign against McCain.
 
2012-10-05 12:26:26 AM  
Denver stretches a mile above sea level.

That's too high.
 
2012-10-05 12:29:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.


Ben Stein is a Republican.
 
2012-10-05 12:30:26 AM  

Brubold: Time to schedule another hard hitting segment on The View I guess.


Funny you mention The View.

Because Romney is going to be on later this month as well.

Link
 
2012-10-05 12:31:20 AM  
The funny part will be when Romney's Doppleganger alter-ego shows up for the next debate and claims to hold completely opposite positions than from the first one. That should be interesting.
 
2012-10-05 12:32:02 AM  

GhostFish: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

Ben Stein is a Republican.


Didn't say he wasn't.
 
2012-10-05 12:32:27 AM  

Badafuco: I've lived at an elevation of 35 feet most of my life. I recently went to Colorado Springs for 3 days. I went hiking at the Garden of the Gods the same day I flew in. Felt just fine. Never felt out of breath or light headed.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-05 12:32:28 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: t's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.


Who said Obama was the winner?
 
2012-10-05 12:32:44 AM  

Kimothy: Obama was in a no-win situation. If he'd come out as aggressive against Romney, he'd have been lambasted and beaten up in the press. This of course made many of his supporters angry, and got the press asking the question, why didn't he go after Romney?

Now for the next two debates, when he does go after Romney, instead of being lambasted in the press and public, people will see him as getting it together and really debating. Now he's got everyone's permission to go be a bulldog, and he won't receive the criticism he'd have gotten last night.

It's the same thing he did to McCain. Obama is a long-plan thinker.


I think you're high

Bad idea to go aggressive in the debate about domestic policy? Seriously tho, nobody thought Romney stood a chance because everybody suddenly forgot Obama wasn't brilliant in '08 either, that his team rested on their laurels when domestic policy was being debated is mind boggling

live by the hype, die by the hype
 
2012-10-05 12:33:40 AM  

Fart_Machine: AverageAmericanGuy: t's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

Who said Obama was the winner?


The Big Bir... oh Lawd thread seems to be filled with people who say so.
 
2012-10-05 12:34:09 AM  

Somacandra: Mitt "We are all children of the same God" Romney is still trying to excite his base and convince Evangelical Protestants to vote for a Mormon. He's trying to use an aggressive style to fuel his base while claiming his content is mainstream friendly on TV before walking it back afterwards.


I think Mitt managed to take two steps back to take a step forward, here. His debate performance was mildly appealing to the moderates and independents, but on the other hand he made a lot of comments that are going to turn the GOP base away from him. Like, for example, agreeing with Obama on anything. Or giving credence to Dodd-Frank. Or admitting there are, in fact, portions of Obamacare that do right. The "repeal and replace" canard isn't going to cover for that, especially when the GOP base already strongly distrusts and dislikes him. He's relying on the "not Obama" aspect to allow him to cruise on his base, but that's not going to fly. Muddling his message and attempting to occupy the center against Obama, when the political strategy that has the best potential to yield a Romney victory is to make it a battle of the bases for the fact attempting to occupy the center will turn off his base, a month out from the election is not a winning strategy especially when last night's debate provides enough ready-made ammunition for the entire month's worth of attack ads.

When the cards are down, he's still the GOP's Kerry and last night's debate performance reinforces that.
 
2012-10-05 12:35:24 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: GhostFish: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

Ben Stein is a Republican.

Didn't say he wasn't.


So when a Republican provides a hypothesis, he's just...I don't know, shooting the shiat.
But when a Democrat provides the same hypothesis, he's "running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate"?
 
2012-10-05 12:36:16 AM  
I still dont see how romney "won". After watching they both seemed fine. Sure Mitt was louder and more animated. But that was the only difference. Is that all that is required to "win"
 
2012-10-05 12:36:16 AM  
Come on Al, Obama can do his own blaming.

Besides, the altitude would only effect Obama's unicorn and not the magical man himself, duh.
 
2012-10-05 12:36:47 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Brubold: Time to schedule another hard hitting segment on The View I guess.

Funny you mention The View.

Because Romney is going to be on later this month as well.

Link


And isn't Ann Romney guest-hosting some ABC morning show? I'd like to punch that biatch right in the face.
 
2012-10-05 12:37:41 AM  

GhostFish: AverageAmericanGuy: GhostFish: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

Ben Stein is a Republican.

Didn't say he wasn't.

So when a Republican provides a hypothesis, he's just...I don't know, shooting the shiat.
But when a Democrat provides the same hypothesis, he's "running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate"?


I said libs, not Democrats.

Although the overlap is very large, I'll grant you.
 
2012-10-05 12:37:43 AM  

Somacandra: The funny part will be when Romney's Doppleganger alter-ego shows up for the next debate and claims to hold completely opposite positions than from the first one. That should be interesting.


And Obama and his team won't be prepared for that either.
 
2012-10-05 12:37:58 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Because Romney is going to be on later this month as well.


From your link: Romney referred to "The View" as "high-risk" because only one of the five hosts identify as conservative-Elisabeth Hasselbeck. "Four are sharp-tongued and not conservative, Whoopi Goldberg in particular,"

He thinks The View is "high-risk" ? Dude wants to be the leader of the free world but sweats over appearing on Morning Yak? Maybe he's afraid to be asked how to get out those pesky gravy stains and ring around the collar?
 
2012-10-05 12:39:30 AM  

Somacandra: Mrtraveler01: Because Romney is going to be on later this month as well.

From your link: Romney referred to "The View" as "high-risk" because only one of the five hosts identify as conservative-Elisabeth Hasselbeck. "Four are sharp-tongued and not conservative, Whoopi Goldberg in particular,"

He thinks The View is "high-risk" ? Dude wants to be the leader of the free world but sweats over appearing on Morning Yak? Maybe he's afraid to be asked how to get out those pesky gravy stains and ring around the collar?


I only pray to God he was just kidding around.
 
2012-10-05 12:40:16 AM  

ralinsilver: I still dont see how romney "won". After watching they both seemed fine. Sure Mitt was louder and more animated. But that was the only difference. Is that all that is required to "win"


Did Romney grab more undecideds than Obama did?

If so, then he won.

This isn't a truth-telling contest. This is advertising.

If you want to know what wins when it comes to advertising, go turn on your TV. It's not pretty.
 
2012-10-05 12:41:09 AM  

YELLOL: Besides, the altitude would only effect Obama's unicorn and not the magical man himself, duh.


2.bp.blogspot.com

So you think Governor Twilight Sparkle had a secret oxygen spell up his sleeve?
 
2012-10-05 12:41:50 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I said libs, not Democrats.

Although the overlap is very large, I'll grant you.


So you contend that Ben Stein is a liberal Republican?
 
2012-10-05 12:43:39 AM  

GhostFish: Did Romney grab more undecideds than Obama did? If so, then he won.


He has to grab undecideds and more. By a factor. He's got serious ground to make up. in about 30-ish days.
 
2012-10-05 12:43:57 AM  

Somacandra: Mrtraveler01: Because Romney is going to be on later this month as well.

From your link: Romney referred to "The View" as "high-risk" because only one of the five hosts identify as conservative-Elisabeth Hasselbeck. "Four are sharp-tongued and not conservative, Whoopi Goldberg in particular,"

He thinks The View is "high-risk" ? Dude wants to be the leader of the free world but sweats over appearing on Morning Yak? Maybe he's afraid to be asked how to get out those pesky gravy stains and ring around the collar?


He really wanted to be on "The Chew" until he found out it had nothing to do with Isreal.
 
2012-10-05 12:45:35 AM  

GhostFish: So you contend that Ben Stein is a liberal Republican?


Of course. He worked for that dirty smelly hippie who called himself "Richard Nixon." Real fruitcake--flowers in his hair and all that shiat. Not keen on bathing or liberal Jews like Kissinger.
 
2012-10-05 12:49:16 AM  

Somacandra: GhostFish: So you contend that Ben Stein is a liberal Republican?

Of course. He worked for that dirty smelly hippie who called himself "Richard Nixon." Real fruitcake--flowers in his hair and all that shiat. Not keen on bathing or liberal Jews like Kissinger.


This makes me curious about an Elseworlds Watchmen where Nixon is still President in the 80s as in the original, but he's the hippiest hip that ever did hip.
 
2012-10-05 12:50:30 AM  
Aw man, Obama got a "Does he look tired to you?" from his own team?
 
2012-10-05 12:51:13 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you


"Navigated" and "recovery." Wow. Just wow.

And another homeless guy I know just had "involuntary sudden epidermis puncture" (he got knifed in the arm by another homeless guy.)

Whar recovery? Whar?
 
2012-10-05 12:53:07 AM  

bdub77: Possibly, but then if he and his guys were really that good, you'd think he would have been better at finding points of compromise within the Congress - unless those jackoffs are really that goddamn thickheaded, which is a very real possibility.


Nope, not possible - those jackoffs are really that goddamn thickheaded. No matter what Obama were to propose, the Republicans in Congress would vote against it and/or kill it with filibuster for absolutely no reason other than the fact that Obama proposed it; likewise, they would (and actually have) killed their own bills just because Obama agreed with it.

Seriously, if Obama were to say he likes watching football, they'd put an amendment in the next budget/military funding/Congressional and/or Presidential pay-raise/etc bill outlawing all sports played on fields except baseball.
 
2012-10-05 12:54:05 AM  

Kimothy: Obama was in a no-win situation. If he'd come out as aggressive against Romney, he'd have been lambasted and beaten up in the press. This of course made many of his supporters angry, and got the press asking the question, why didn't he go after Romney?

Now for the next two debates, when he does go after Romney, instead of being lambasted in the press and public, people will see him as getting it together and really debating. Now he's got everyone's permission to go be a bulldog, and he won't receive the criticism he'd have gotten last night.

It's the same thing he did to McCain. Obama is a long-plan thinker.


So this is the new meme?
 
2012-10-05 12:55:31 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you

"Navigated" and "recovery." Wow. Just wow.

And another homeless guy I know just had "involuntary sudden epidermis puncture" (he got knifed in the arm by another homeless guy.)

Whar recovery? Whar?


If you didn't know, we're not in a recession anymore. So we've RECOVERED from a recession we were in when OBAMA TOOK OFFICE so he PRESIDED of that RECOVERY.

Whether you agree or disagree with what part he played in the recovery is up for debate, definitions are not.
 
2012-10-05 12:55:55 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

Whar recovery? Whar?


30 months of Job Growth? The Dow doubling? Quarter after quarter of record corporate profits? More manufacturing jobs created than in all 8 years of Bush?

If the recovery as fast or as robust as I would like? Of course not. Does it exist? Sure. . .unless you're rooting for American failure and seeing it wherever you can.

Which brings up the question: Why do you hate America?
 
2012-10-05 12:55:56 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker with a teleprompter, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.


Fixed
 
2012-10-05 12:57:46 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.


More like, he couldn't deal with the lack of pressure.
 
2012-10-05 12:58:22 AM  
Obama sounded fired up and ready to go at his rally earlier today.

//He had TelePrompTers
 
2012-10-05 12:58:34 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker with a teleprompter, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.

Fixed


I wish you would have been beaten to death by the cops out there in Cali instead of that other homeless guy. At least he contributed something.
 
2012-10-05 01:00:33 AM  

Somacandra: YELLOL: Besides, the altitude would only effect Obama's unicorn and not the magical man himself, duh.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 421x359]

So you think Governor Twilight Sparkle had a secret oxygen spell up his sleeve?


Gosh, this answers the question I've been wondering about ever since the debate. Why was Romney wearing an oxygen mask during the debate? But of course! The altitude. Too bad Obama's people forgot about that.
 
2012-10-05 01:02:33 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: So this is the new meme?


No, it's the pathetic rationalizations of people who can't understand why Obama blundered in the debates.

The real answer is obvious. You can't debate someone who refuses to take a position. You just end up swinging at air and looking like a fool.

But no, no Obama meant to lose.

Yeah farking right.
 
2012-10-05 01:02:37 AM  

Cuthbert Allgood: TelePrompTers


bagger-like typing detected
 
2012-10-05 01:06:43 AM  
Only those that are faking it at their job can't talk shop at the drop of a hat
 
2012-10-05 01:06:49 AM  

GhostFish: The real answer is obvious. You can't debate someone who refuses to take a position. You just end up swinging at air and looking like a fool.


I don't know about "looking like a fool", but it does seem like people are holding Obama to a standard that presupposes that Romney was doing anything other than spewing bullshiat like manure through a wood-chipper. Obama's lackluster performance was largely due to the fact that he came to the event expecting a debate, not a non-stop bullshiat juggernaut running roughshod over the event. But I guess that's what you have to expect from a post-truth campaign.
 
2012-10-05 01:08:17 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Cuthbert Allgood: TelePrompTers

bagger-like typing detected


Does anyone know why the TelePrompTer company originally spelled its name like that? Wikipedia mentions it but does not explain why. I thought it was something derpy.
 
2012-10-05 01:09:05 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker with a teleprompter, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.

Fixed

I wish you would have been beaten to death by the cops out there in Cali instead of that other homeless guy. At least he contributed something.


This must be that famous lib compassion and tolerance we hear so much about.

(You're not helping.jpg)
 
2012-10-05 01:10:23 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Only those that are faking it at their job can't talk shop at the drop of a hat


It was indeed a shame that Mitt Romney was unable to talk shop and had to make up lies instead. How does he sleep at night?
 
2012-10-05 01:10:35 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker with a teleprompter, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.

Fixed

I wish you would have been beaten to death by the cops out there in Cali instead of that other homeless guy. At least he contributed something.


I totally believe that guy's shtick too.
 
2012-10-05 01:11:00 AM  

Atillathepun: Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

Whar recovery? Whar?

30 months of Job Growth? The Dow doubling? Quarter after quarter of record corporate profits? More manufacturing jobs created than in all 8 years of Bush?

If the recovery as fast or as robust as I would like? Of course not. Does it exist? Sure. . .unless you're rooting for American failure and seeing it wherever you can.

Which brings up the question: Why do you hate America?


Then answer me this one simple question -- why are there fewer people working today then when Obama took office?
 
2012-10-05 01:12:47 AM  
" Willard you ignorant slut....."

/That's how I would begin
 
2012-10-05 01:13:28 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker with a teleprompter, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.

Fixed

I wish you would have been beaten to death by the cops out there in Cali instead of that other homeless guy. At least he contributed something.

This must be that famous lib compassion and tolerance we hear so much about.

(You're not helping.jpg)


And you must be that famous homeless temporarily-embarrassed-millionaire voting for Republicans against his own interests that we keep hearing about.

(You're not winning this election.jpg)
 
2012-10-05 01:13:59 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: GhostFish: The real answer is obvious. You can't debate someone who refuses to take a position. You just end up swinging at air and looking like a fool.

I don't know about "looking like a fool", but it does seem like people are holding Obama to a standard that presupposes that Romney was doing anything other than spewing bullshiat like manure through a wood-chipper. Obama's lackluster performance was largely due to the fact that he came to the event expecting a debate, not a non-stop bullshiat juggernaut running roughshod over the event. But I guess that's what you have to expect from a post-truth campaign.


Yeah, regardless of Obama's performance I'd say that's what Romney brought to the fight.

And the moderator's questions didn't help.
"How do you differ from your opponent on X?"

Well, when your opponent suddenly insists that he isn't proposing any of the things he's been proposing for months - you're going to have a hard time comparing and contrasting.

The entire event was a ridiculous circus. But Romney puffed up his chest, tore down the most branches and kicked up the most dirt, so he wins.

I'm thinking of moving to another planet.
 
2012-10-05 01:15:55 AM  
Still better than World's Biggest Ass John Sununu's explanation: that Obama is just "lazy."

/New Hampshire needs to apologize for giving that moob zit scar a national stage
 
2012-10-05 01:16:32 AM  

Brick-House: Then answer me this one simple question -- why are there fewer people working today then when Obama took office?


Oh can it. You're not that stupid. Try something believable.
 
2012-10-05 01:17:16 AM  

Brick-House: Atillathepun: Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

Whar recovery? Whar?

30 months of Job Growth? The Dow doubling? Quarter after quarter of record corporate profits? More manufacturing jobs created than in all 8 years of Bush?

If the recovery as fast or as robust as I would like? Of course not. Does it exist? Sure. . .unless you're rooting for American failure and seeing it wherever you can.

Which brings up the question: Why do you hate America?

Then answer me this one simple question -- why are there fewer people working today then when Obama took office?


Because Romney shipped their jobs to China?
 
2012-10-05 01:22:21 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: World's Biggest Ass John Sununu


The only time I ever watched CNN was in the gym during a workout, and I can no longer even manage that short time period because they won't stop bringing John Sununu on the air. It's the same goddamned "interview" every time. No matter what the subject is, Sununu blames Obama. He was asked if Tommy Thompson was right to blame Romney for a down-ticket effect on his own race, and he just responded by complaining about Obama. They always just let him do his schtick, and then grin and thank him for the conversation with some back-handed compliment: "You're always fun to talk to." Fark CNN with a cactus.
 
2012-10-05 01:22:28 AM  
I guess maybe he's been busy Presidentin' and probably had other things on his mind. Romney hasn't even had a job for 4 frikkin' years, unless you count sitting in his vault playing Scrooge McDuck.

That, or Obama just really didn't want it bad...and I hope that's not it.
 
2012-10-05 01:23:48 AM  

Brick-House: Atillathepun: Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

Whar recovery? Whar?

30 months of Job Growth? The Dow doubling? Quarter after quarter of record corporate profits? More manufacturing jobs created than in all 8 years of Bush?

If the recovery as fast or as robust as I would like? Of course not. Does it exist? Sure. . .unless you're rooting for American failure and seeing it wherever you can.

Which brings up the question: Why do you hate America?

Then answer me this one simple question -- why are there fewer people working today then when Obama took office?


Actually, there aren't. Obama just crossed the "net job creator" threshold. But that aside. . .do you honestly, in your heart of hearts, hold Obama responsible for the 700,000+ jobs lost in his first month? Even Romney himself said that a President shouldn't be responsible for a lot of the stuff that happens in the first 6 months of a Presidency. A "Serpentor"-like amalgamation of George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, FDR and Ike running a team of the eggiest eggheads to ever wear a egg cozy on their egg-like heads could not have instantly turned the absolute cluster-fark of an economy around in a mere few months.

The fact that people do not even remember how close we were to the edge is a testament to how ably Obama took care of things. And it is disgusting how so many were rooting already for his failure as the event transpired. Completely and utterly disgusting.
 
2012-10-05 01:25:37 AM  
Well considering the next debate is being held in the deep end of a swimming pool, it'll be interesting to see if Obama can manage to keep his head above water.
 
2012-10-05 01:27:46 AM  

Rashnu: Well considering the next debate is being held in the deep end of a swimming pool, it'll be interesting to see if Obama can manage to keep his head above water.


If that is the case, don't expect Romney to participate. He's not allowed to get his magic underwear wet.
 
2012-10-05 01:30:52 AM  
Would have Obama been better had he worn magic underwear?

Romney's only job right now is running for President, and he hasn't really been doing a very good job AT THAT ONE THING. Sure he had one good night, which he had nothing else to do but prepare for.

The President has had a full time job, raising kids, and he is running for President again and he is doing far better than Mitt.

/538
 
2012-10-05 01:43:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you

Why ARE you even bothering with it?


Give the guy some credit, TPOC is a professionally troll. I mean, think about it. If you make enough posts, you're bound to say something at least moderately intelligent or at least reality-based eventually, if only by accident.

Have you ever seen TPOC say anything that wasn't complete nonsense? Ever? TPOC is pants on head retarded EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. No one is that consistent. It's not natural.
 
2012-10-05 01:44:19 AM  

Emposter: is a professionally troll


That will teach me to go back and change parts of my post.
 
2012-10-05 01:47:25 AM  

brap: Denver can make one feel out of shape when one is a lowlander.  Not that I've ever experienced that hiking and feeling like I was going to cough up a lung or anything.  I heard this from a second cousin's fiance that was from Guam, you wouldn't know her.


Pfft. I not only know her, but have her on vinyl.
 
2012-10-05 01:53:36 AM  
Romney clearly was on some kind of chemical enhancers last night. Ritalin or some shiat...

//I know he can't drink caffeine but can Mormons drop Adderall?
 
2012-10-05 02:01:43 AM  
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2012-10-05 02:10:24 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.


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Did you just imply that Ben Stem is a lib? Just because he gave his money away doesn't make him a Libby lib.
 
2012-10-05 02:10:47 AM  
How ridiculous.

I'm getting tired of this whole "Denver is SUCH high altitude" bullshiat.

I lived in Flagstaff, Az, elevation 7000 feet. NO problems, and I never met a new arrival to town who couldn't think clearly that wasn't related to either pot o alcohol.

I spent a summer at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, 8,000 feet. Same story. Even the tourists, just in for the day did fine.

I hiked the San Francisco Peaks, 12,633 feet, within a few weeks of moving to Flag for the first time. No "adjustment" climbing a mile higher than the high altitude city I had just moved to.

Even Salt Lake(Where I now live) is 4,300 feet, and my wife and I unloaded the U-Haul as soon as we arrived from Phoenix(About 1,100 feet) with no issues.

I can see some sports teams having issues, it's why the Cardinals do spring training in Flag, but not being able to debate? Weak, weak, WEAK excuse. I've always thought the Denver "We're a mile above sea level" bragging point was stupid.

Fun fact: Phoenix is home to the second highest elevation MLB ballpark(Behind Coors Field, of course)... All of these damn things must be on the coast or something.
 
2012-10-05 02:11:45 AM  
 
2012-10-05 02:17:34 AM  
I wonder if we'll every hear what really caused such a lackluster performance...

//I was faced with my bias last night- when I had finished listening to the debate (I didn't watch it, just listened to it at work and on my commute home) I thought Obama was boring but Mitt spewed lots of crap so I thought it was a wash. Then I turned on the TV and saw Mathews almost in tears and FOX giddy with excitement.
 
2012-10-05 02:17:35 AM  

SouthParkCon: Grrrr, someones mad that Glorious Leader didn't have his teleprompter.


Yeah, Romney uses them too, you stupid twit. Hell, he's on video talking about how beneficial they are, right after bashing Obama for the same thing.

Link
 
2012-10-05 02:18:52 AM  

King Something: bdub77: Possibly, but then if he and his guys were really that good, you'd think he would have been better at finding points of compromise within the Congress - unless those jackoffs are really that goddamn thickheaded, which is a very real possibility.

Nope, not possible - those jackoffs are really that goddamn thickheaded. No matter what Obama were to propose, the Republicans in Congress would vote against it and/or kill it with filibuster for absolutely no reason other than the fact that Obama proposed it; likewise, they would (and actually have) killed their own bills just because Obama agreed with it.

Seriously, if Obama were to say he likes watching football, they'd put an amendment in the next budget/military funding/Congressional and/or Presidential pay-raise/etc bill outlawing all sports played on fields except baseball.


It's been said before that he needs to go on record endorsing the breathing of oxygen just to thin out the Republican herd.
 
2012-10-05 02:20:53 AM  

Mikey1969: How ridiculous.

I'm getting tired of this whole "Denver is SUCH high altitude" bullshiat.

I lived in Flagstaff, Az, elevation 7000 feet. NO problems, and I never met a new arrival to town who couldn't think clearly that wasn't related to either pot o alcohol.

I spent a summer at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, 8,000 feet. Same story. Even the tourists, just in for the day did fine.

I hiked the San Francisco Peaks, 12,633 feet, within a few weeks of moving to Flag for the first time. No "adjustment" climbing a mile higher than the high altitude city I had just moved to.

Even Salt Lake(Where I now live) is 4,300 feet, and my wife and I unloaded the U-Haul as soon as we arrived from Phoenix(About 1,100 feet) with no issues.

I can see some sports teams having issues, it's why the Cardinals do spring training in Flag, but not being able to debate? Weak, weak, WEAK excuse. I've always thought the Denver "We're a mile above sea level" bragging point was stupid.

Fun fact: Phoenix is home to the second highest elevation MLB ballpark(Behind Coors Field, of course)... All of these damn things must be on the coast or something.


You are acclimated to the altitude. My wife just went to denver and said she was buzzing good after just a couple beers. I don't think that explains the debates, but it may have been a factor.

\ lives at sea level
 
2012-10-05 02:39:18 AM  
Getting a bit racist there, Al.
 
2012-10-05 02:44:08 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: And another homeless guy I know just had "involuntary sudden epidermis puncture" (he got knifed in the arm by another homeless guy.)

Whar recovery? Whar?



You're really wearing out this fake persona
 
2012-10-05 02:45:19 AM  
Obama's lackluster debate performance,

derp
 
2012-10-05 02:46:30 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: And you must be that famous homeless temporarily-embarrassed-millionaire voting for Republicans against his own interests that we keep hearing about.

(You're not winning this election.jpg)



He claimed in the debate topic how he is really voting for 0bama, honest. He just can't stand libby libs
 
2012-10-05 03:01:46 AM  
I'm too drunk to argue in a more detailed fashion.

Having lived out there for 3.5 years, I can say that altitude can really get to you. And I like Obama. That's all.
 
2012-10-05 03:05:50 AM  
A week where conservatives brag about a debate is a week where conservatives aren't hammering the news story about a federal agent shot on the Mexican border. Or that an intelligence failure likely led to the Libyan ambassador being assassinated.

...

...so as a liberal, kudos Mitt Romney, for your bold and attention-grabbing debate performance!
 
2012-10-05 03:07:48 AM  

Cyclonic Cooking Action: Mikey1969: How ridiculous.

I'm getting tired of this whole "Denver is SUCH high altitude" bullshiat.

I lived in Flagstaff, Az, elevation 7000 feet. NO problems, and I never met a new arrival to town who couldn't think clearly that wasn't related to either pot o alcohol.

I spent a summer at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, 8,000 feet. Same story. Even the tourists, just in for the day did fine.

I hiked the San Francisco Peaks, 12,633 feet, within a few weeks of moving to Flag for the first time. No "adjustment" climbing a mile higher than the high altitude city I had just moved to.

Even Salt Lake(Where I now live) is 4,300 feet, and my wife and I unloaded the U-Haul as soon as we arrived from Phoenix(About 1,100 feet) with no issues.

I can see some sports teams having issues, it's why the Cardinals do spring training in Flag, but not being able to debate? Weak, weak, WEAK excuse. I've always thought the Denver "We're a mile above sea level" bragging point was stupid.

Fun fact: Phoenix is home to the second highest elevation MLB ballpark(Behind Coors Field, of course)... All of these damn things must be on the coast or something.

You are acclimated to the altitude. My wife just went to denver and said she was buzzing good after just a couple beers. I don't think that explains the debates, but it may have been a factor.

\ lives at sea level


Actually I meant to mention alcohol(In that regard) and didn't. The ONLY effect of the altitude I saw was that I got hammered far more easily. It is assumed that Obama didn't go to the bar first, and either way, he wasn't acting drunk. I saw no other effects, and that includes the first time I moved up there.
 
2012-10-05 03:15:14 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you


So maybe it was the altitude or dealing with foreign policy or personal issues or maybe he needed the totus or maybe Obama is so smart this is a plot to trap the smug, smirking, evil, magic underwear wearing Romney and using his own words to trap him in diabolically cleaver ads.
 
2012-10-05 03:21:57 AM  

Kimothy: Obama was in a no-win situation. If he'd come out as aggressive against Romney, he'd have been lambasted and beaten up in the press. This of course made many of his supporters angry, and got the press asking the question, why didn't he go after Romney?


So basically Obama's poor performance was... Because the press would have beaten him up? The same press that has been covering for him for the last four or five years?

As for the rest of your predictions, did you know you are agreeing with Limbaugh? He apparently predicted that people would try to spin this as some great plan Obama had all along.

Because admitting that Romney got on stage and presented conservative ideas the way they are instead of the way liberals perceive them and acknowledging that Obama had no response to that is hard, I realize that.
 
2012-10-05 03:23:59 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.


I see what you did there.
 
2012-10-05 03:40:17 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: I don't know about "looking like a fool", but it does seem like people are holding Obama to a standard that presupposes that Romney was doing anything other than spewing bullshiat like manure through a wood-chipper. Obama's lackluster performance was largely due to the fact that he came to the event expecting a debate, not a non-stop bullshiat juggernaut running roughshod over the event. But I guess that's what you have to expect from a post-truth campaign.


That's the impression that I got. Obama was trying to debate, following, you know, debate rules, while Romney seemed to think that debate meant "talk loudly over your opponent."

He's probably more accustomed to that kind of "debate." You know, because he's a rich asshole that tells other people what to do.

The problem is that simpletons equate being bossy with being a leader.
 
2012-10-05 03:40:22 AM  

bdub77: A lot of monied people were thinking of stopping donations to Romney's campaign entirely and focusing on Congressional races in the House and Senate. What if Obama wants to keep the money coming into Romney's coffers, thereby depleting the money that could be used in Congressional and Senatorial campaigns? Would that not be a brilliant move, if you were really that good at the game?


This is a good point, and I had not considered it. Any money donated to Romney's campaign is most certainly wasted... depleting Republican supporters of their funds by giving them false hope is a brilliant maneuver, if that's indeed what's happening.
 
2012-10-05 03:53:21 AM  
I dunno. Seemed like every commentator was going on about how Romney would win the first debate. Makes me wonder if maybe the fix was in. Either that or Obama wanted to avoid Mittens getting any sympathy votes by crushing him right out of the gate.

At least I hope that's what happened.
 
2012-10-05 04:12:50 AM  

brap: Denver can make one feel out of shape when one is a lowlander.  Not that I've ever experienced that hiking and feeling like I was going to cough up a lung or anything.  I heard this from a second cousin's fiance that was from Guam, you wouldn't know her.


I don't know about Denver, but when I went to OTC in C. Springs to train for a month, I felt like nuked ass for the first two weeks. After a workout, I would get winded jogging up the steps of the dorm. Drinking at the bar across the street (The Finish Line) was a short walk off a short plank. Maybe the Prez went for a run that morning and it wiped him out. Seems reasonable.

I was a burning beast when I got back to the east coast, though. Altitude training really works.
 
2012-10-05 06:12:51 AM  
I used to live in a mountain tourist town that was one mile above sea level. Tourists used to come up all the time and pass out doing things like eating dinner. *Shrugs*

The next debate should be in New Orleans where they haven't rebuilt yet. Let's see Mittens tell the 47% there that they're moochers.
 
2012-10-05 06:14:46 AM  

Old enough to know better: I dunno. Seemed like every commentator was going on about how Romney would win the first debate. Makes me wonder if maybe the fix was in. Either that or Obama wanted to avoid Mittens getting any sympathy votes by crushing him right out of the gate.

At least I hope that's what happened.


As a Democrat and Obama supporter, even I don't buy this one bit. There was no real advantage to letting Romney reinvigorate himself Wednesday night. Obama should have stomped on him and watched while a Romney loss in the debate started to shut down his contributors. He didn't even come close to doing that. And now, instead of being pissed and wanting to know why Obama didn't fight back on every front and stand up for what's right, all of these Obama supporters are spouting this long game bullshiat and he didn't want Romney to get sympathy votes so he tanked--not just a draw--but he tanked.

C'mon, get real. Obama blew it. No 47%, no Bain, hardly even touched Romney on his refusal to bailout the auto industry. Who gives a shiat about the fact checkers when the story your performance creates is all about how bad you were? He has to do better next time out and we should expect him to be better instead of making incredible excuses for him.
 
2012-10-05 06:28:19 AM  
It's very simple, Obama is rarely challenged directly on his ideals. Just watch the Univision interview and watch how he reacts to even mildly rough questioning. The debate showed that to a national audience. Even Bill Mahr recognized after the debate the man needs a TelePromTer as a crutch.


/John McCain was horrible and timid in the '08 debates
 
2012-10-05 06:37:51 AM  

themeaningoflifeisnot: Old enough to know better: I dunno. Seemed like every commentator was going on about how Romney would win the first debate. Makes me wonder if maybe the fix was in. Either that or Obama wanted to avoid Mittens getting any sympathy votes by crushing him right out of the gate.

At least I hope that's what happened.

As a Democrat and Obama supporter, even I don't buy this one bit. There was no real advantage to letting Romney reinvigorate himself Wednesday night. Obama should have stomped on him and watched while a Romney loss in the debate started to shut down his contributors. He didn't even come close to doing that. And now, instead of being pissed and wanting to know why Obama didn't fight back on every front and stand up for what's right, all of these Obama supporters are spouting this long game bullshiat and he didn't want Romney to get sympathy votes so he tanked--not just a draw--but he tanked.

C'mon, get real. Obama blew it. No 47%, no Bain, hardly even touched Romney on his refusal to bailout the auto industry. Who gives a shiat about the fact checkers when the story your performance creates is all about how bad you were? He has to do better next time out and we should expect him to be better instead of making incredible excuses for him.


I hope he at least got some sympathy/anniversary pu**y...wait...no I don't. He didn't even do good enough to get that.
 
2012-10-05 07:07:08 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: I guess maybe he's been busy Presidentin' and probably had other things on his mind. Romney hasn't even had a job for 4 frikkin' years, unless you count sitting in his vault playing Scrooge McDuck.

That, or Obama just really didn't want it bad...and I hope that's not it.


How much Presidentin' does Obammy accomplish while sitting on The View? Or on Letterman? Or on the golf course? Or at the fundraisers he's at every night? Or throwing down with JayZ while not allowing pictures to be taken of him slamming eight hundred dollar bottles of champagne?

He wants the job desperately, because it gets him invited to all the cool parties and it lets him destroy the lives of millions of people he hates.
 
2012-10-05 07:20:42 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Ben Stein was suggesting the same type of thing on the OraTV post-debate show yesterday.

It's hilarious to see all you libs running around looking for any perspective that makes Obama come off as the winner of last night's debate. He lost badly.

He may be a gifted speaker, but his debate skills are not very good.

/or maybe he's doing a rope-a-dope and allowing himself to get reamed in the debates on purpose.


It's equally hilarious to see you rightwingers chanting "Imperator Gloriosus" and strewing rose pedals in Mittens' path.
 
2012-10-05 07:40:29 AM  
There may have been some intentional strategy in play by keeping things low-key, but even I think Obama was taken aback by the sheer volume of bullshiat flowing from Romney's side of the stage. A poster yesterday mentioned it was like trying to fight a swarm of bees with logic... you just couldn't do it. The problem, the reason Romney "won", is because he effectively ignored and laid waste to the basic premise of a debate, which is to discuss issues. There was no discussion, it was simply Romney running around in REGURGITATE $BULLSHIAT mode through a high-flow valve. So congrats to him, I guess.

I suspect the next two debates will have a substantially different outcome now that Romney's shot his wad in the first one.
 
2012-10-05 07:43:52 AM  
Al Gore. Clearly, history's greatest monster.

/Couldn't believe nobody posted that yet.
 
2012-10-05 07:48:39 AM  

themeaningoflifeisnot: As a Democrat and Obama supporter, even I don't buy this one bit. There was no real advantage to letting Romney reinvigorate himself Wednesday night. Obama should have stomped on him and watched while a Romney loss in the debate started to shut down his contributors. He didn't even come close to doing that. And now, instead of being pissed and wanting to know why Obama didn't fight back on every front and stand up for what's right, all of these Obama supporters are spouting this long game bullshiat and he didn't want Romney to get sympathy votes so he tanked--not just a draw--but he tanked.

C'mon, get real. Obama blew it. No 47%, no Bain, hardly even touched Romney on his refusal to bailout the auto industry. Who gives a shiat about the fact checkers when the story your performance creates is all about how bad you were? He has to do better next time out and we should expect him to be better instead of making incredible excuses for him.


this. As an Obama supporter, the denial among other Obama supporters is much more disheartening than Obama's loss. While I'm skeptical that Romney's win was anything more than putting a stop to the hemorrhagging of his campaign, that in and of itself is a kind of victory and a bigger victory than Obama can really claim. Romney spewing non-stop bullshiat would be a big deal if I thought pointing out those inconsistencies would actually sway votes at this point. If anything, Romney's appearance was more about tossing out red meat to his (lukewarm) supporters than debating any kind of policy, this is likely the same scenario in the next 2 debates*. I don't think Obama is down for the count by this loss an am hopeful that he does comeback in a big way, but an Obama win really could've been a knock-out blow for Romney. I don't buy the "long game" excuse one bit.

*it will be interesting to see if the Biden/Ryan debates show a similar strategy. Ryan seems to genuinely believe the bullshiat where Romney seems to merely recognise it more as politically advantageous.


that bosnian sniper: Or admitting there are, in fact, portions of Obamacare that do right. The "repeal and replace" canard isn't going to cover for that




ignoring the obvious doubletalk from Romney, I'm surprised it's actually taken this long for Romney to embrace Romneycare. I always figured, at least post-Primaries, he would talk up Romneycare vs Obamacare as some kind of muddled States' Rights argument... and the Republicans would probably regurgitate that nonsense because Obamacare's biggest flaw to them was that it did not originate from a Republican congress or President.
 
2012-10-05 07:48:58 AM  
"He's probably more accustomed to that kind of "debate." You know, because he's a rich asshole the president that tells other people what to do.

The problem is that simpletons equate being bossy likeable with being a leader."


What I found remarkable was the next morning BO was at a Denver campaign stop, with teleprompters no less. The press didn't crop them from the photo this time. He needs those for campaign stop rambles of talking points repeated over and over too? Note to Axlewater: in your "aggressive" looking into why this happened, consider taking away the teleprompters from BO for the next week or so, it will be good training for the next debate.
 
2012-10-05 07:50:08 AM  
And this altitude thing is complete bullshiat. I've occasionally handled cases in Denver, and never once felt the affects of altitude while doing my job. I can see the possibility if it was an athletic performance, but not for a damn debate.
 
2012-10-05 07:57:22 AM  

tractorface: "He's probably more accustomed to that kind of "debate." You know, because he's a rich asshole the president that tells other people what to do.

The problem is that simpletons equate being bossy likeable with being a leader."

What I found remarkable was the next morning BO was at a Denver campaign stop, with teleprompters no less. The press didn't crop them from the photo this time. He needs those for campaign stop rambles of talking points repeated over and over too? Note to Axlewater: in your "aggressive" looking into why this happened, consider taking away the teleprompters from BO for the next week or so, it will be good training for the next debate.


Yawn teleprompter. I'd rather have a candidate who has to read his ideas off a tv screen than one that has no ideas in the first place.
 
2012-10-05 08:10:51 AM  
Obama is nothing more than a loser. People who vote for him this time are idiots
 
2012-10-05 08:12:42 AM  

Badafuco: I've lived at an elevation of 35 feet most of my life. I recently went to Colorado Springs for 3 days. I went hiking at the Garden of the Gods the same day I flew in. Felt just fine. Never felt out of breath or light headed.


I agree that altitude is a lame excuse (and not being mentioned by Obama's team). Obama is in excellent physical shape and debates are not exactly aerobic.
 
2012-10-05 08:15:26 AM  

ralinsilver: I still dont see how romney "won". After watching they both seemed fine. Sure Mitt was louder and more animated. But that was the only difference. Is that all that is required to "win"


Romney talked a lot of smack that Obama didn't respond to, but he responded to anything Obama said that he didn't like. Also, Romney showed some "Alpha Male" control of the room which is a form of winning to many people.
 
2012-10-05 08:19:14 AM  

CPennypacker: Yawn teleprompter. I'd rather have a candidate who has to read his ideas off a tv screen than one that has no ideas in the first place.


So you think what Obama reads from the teleprompter are actually "his" ideas?
Obama couldn't string two sentences togethor about "his" platform the other night, yet we have been told he's one of the most intelllegient president's ever? That Obama is one of the greatest orators, ever?

If Obama had a solid understanding of "his" platform and ideas,, I thnk he would have been able to at least hold his own the other night.

What I saw the other night was shocking.

Obama's remarks the day after seem so pathetic.

People who think thier guy Obama can do no wrong will never admit it and will blindly follow him. But for onjective thinkers, I belive they have to admit, the other night in no way helped Obama.
 
2012-10-05 08:20:24 AM  

Kimothy: Obama was in a no-win situation. If he'd come out as aggressive against Romney, he'd have been lambasted and beaten up in the press. This of course made many of his supporters angry, and got the press asking the question, why didn't he go after Romney?

Now for the next two debates, when he does go after Romney, instead of being lambasted in the press and public, people will see him as getting it together and really debating. Now he's got everyone's permission to go be a bulldog, and he won't receive the criticism he'd have gotten last night.

It's the same thing he did to McCain. Obama is a long-plan thinker.


While I'd love to think that is true, I'm not sure, I think he just blew it.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:41 AM  

Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: Yawn teleprompter. I'd rather have a candidate who has to read his ideas off a tv screen than one that has no ideas in the first place.

So you think what Obama reads from the teleprompter are actually "his" ideas?
Obama couldn't string two sentences togethor about "his" platform the other night, yet we have been told he's one of the most intelllegient president's ever? That Obama is one of the greatest orators, ever?

If Obama had a solid understanding of "his" platform and ideas,, I thnk he would have been able to at least hold his own the other night.

What I saw the other night was shocking.

Obama's remarks the day after seem so pathetic.

People who think thier guy Obama can do no wrong will never admit it and will blindly follow him. But for onjective thinkers, I belive they have to admit, the other night in no way helped Obama.


Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:44 AM  

CPennypacker: tractorface: "He's probably more accustomed to that kind of "debate." You know, because he's a rich asshole the president that tells other people what to do.

The problem is that simpletons equate being bossy likeable with being a leader."

What I found remarkable was the next morning BO was at a Denver campaign stop, with teleprompters no less. The press didn't crop them from the photo this time. He needs those for campaign stop rambles of talking points repeated over and over too? Note to Axlewater: in your "aggressive" looking into why this happened, consider taking away the teleprompters from BO for the next week or so, it will be good training for the next debate.

Yawn teleprompter. I'd rather have a candidate who has to read his ideas off a tv screen than one that has no ideas in the first place.


So in a national crisis, say benghazi, you'd rather BO read off a temelprompter to answer the call at 3 am? maybe the teleprompter wasn't there, and thats why he didn't answer the phone that night. Seriously - the teleprompter is like copying homework during college coursework. It gets you through most of the class, but when the test comes, you just don't know the answers. BO really ought to give them up for awhile, or call in sick for the next debate. I don't think the debate preps can presuppose every item, and BO needs to think - and talk - on the fly. For example, "the 90B you wasted on green energy - that would have paid for 200 million teachers". Tough to retort, gotta be a quick thinker. Whoops, I mean thinker/talker - a non-teleprompted thinker/talker not barfing up someone else's lines..
 
2012-10-05 08:30:43 AM  
Don;t dismiss his theory too quickly. Al Gore is our greatest living authority on being boring in debates.
 
2012-10-05 08:31:21 AM  

tractorface: CPennypacker: tractorface: "He's probably more accustomed to that kind of "debate." You know, because he's a rich asshole the president that tells other people what to do.

The problem is that simpletons equate being bossy likeable with being a leader."

What I found remarkable was the next morning BO was at a Denver campaign stop, with teleprompters no less. The press didn't crop them from the photo this time. He needs those for campaign stop rambles of talking points repeated over and over too? Note to Axlewater: in your "aggressive" looking into why this happened, consider taking away the teleprompters from BO for the next week or so, it will be good training for the next debate.

Yawn teleprompter. I'd rather have a candidate who has to read his ideas off a tv screen than one that has no ideas in the first place.

So in a national crisis, say benghazi, you'd rather BO read off a temelprompter to answer the call at 3 am? maybe the teleprompter wasn't there, and thats why he didn't answer the phone that night. Seriously - the teleprompter is like copying homework during college coursework. It gets you through most of the class, but when the test comes, you just don't know the answers. BO really ought to give them up for awhile, or call in sick for the next debate. I don't think the debate preps can presuppose every item, and BO needs to think - and talk - on the fly. For example, "the 90B you wasted on green energy - that would have paid for 200 million teachers". Tough to retort, gotta be a quick thinker. Whoops, I mean thinker/talker - a non-teleprompted thinker/talker not barfing up someone else's lines..


OK you're just too stupid
 
2012-10-05 08:31:56 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: tenpoundsofcheese: In other words, 0bama couldn't deal with the pressure.

Yes he beat a decorated Vietnam veteran and then right wing starlet and navigated this country through 4 difficult years of economic recovery including making tough decisions on FP issues such as the OBL raid, shooting the pirates and navigating a mine field that was the withdraw from Iraq. But he can't handle the pressure of a mendacious, smug, Upper Class Twit of the Year who literally lied about every position he's ever had on anything

/wait, why am I even bothering with you


Okay, usually ... never mind... it's not usually worth responding to 10 lbs. But... lemme help you out with this one:

"Al Gore Suggests Obama Had Trouble with the Altitude"

"You might say Obama couldn't

www.thetoque.com

Deal with the pressure."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH
 
2012-10-05 08:34:09 AM  
www.jimjambo.com
 
2012-10-05 08:34:43 AM  
The altitude. Yeah, thats the ticket
 
2012-10-05 08:35:34 AM  

gearsprocket: Obama is nothing more than a loser. People who vote for him this time are idiots


You should get a refund from Phoenix Online Troll University, because that was just terrible.
 
2012-10-05 08:47:25 AM  
Or, maybe Obama mistakenly thought being confrontational would be too pedestrian and beneath him, like another Democratic presidential candidate I can name who decided to not have an ounce of fight in him until after he was screwed out of the presidency. [LOOKING DIRECTLY AT AL GORE WHILE SAYING THIS]
 
2012-10-05 08:55:47 AM  
Obama's lackluster performance was due to lack of oxygen to his brain? I guess that is as good an excuse as any...
 
2012-10-05 09:01:05 AM  

CPennypacker: tractorface: CPennypacker: tractorface: "He's probably more accustomed to that kind of "debate." You know, because he's a rich asshole the president that tells other people what to do.

The problem is that simpletons equate being bossy likeable with being a leader."

What I found remarkable was the next morning BO was at a Denver campaign stop, with teleprompters no less. The press didn't crop them from the photo this time. He needs those for campaign stop rambles of talking points repeated over and over too? Note to Axlewater: in your "aggressive" looking into why this happened, consider taking away the teleprompters from BO for the next week or so, it will be good training for the next debate.

Yawn teleprompter. I'd rather have a candidate who has to read his ideas off a tv screen than one that has no ideas in the first place.

So in a national crisis, say benghazi, you'd rather BO read off a temelprompter to answer the call at 3 am? maybe the teleprompter wasn't there, and thats why he didn't answer the phone that night. Seriously - the teleprompter is like copying homework during college coursework. It gets you through most of the class, but when the test comes, you just don't know the answers. BO really ought to give them up for awhile, or call in sick for the next debate. I don't think the debate preps can presuppose every item, and BO needs to think - and talk - on the fly. For example, "the 90B you wasted on green energy - that would have paid for 200 million teachers". Tough to retort, gotta be a quick thinker. Whoops, I mean thinker/talker - a non-teleprompted thinker/talker not barfing up someone else's lines..

OK you're just too stupid


OK, your a likeable guy, but obviously don't have the answers, maybe your teleprompter isn't working this morning. I imagine "OK your too stupid" is about all BO could come up with that night when Mitt left jabbed him with that one, but he was smart enough not to say that. BO needs to put the teleprompters away for the next week is all I was saying. Romney/Ryan is no McCain/Palin. And there is a lot to explain on the last 4 years. See ya later.
 
2012-10-05 09:06:54 AM  

imontheinternet: Don;t dismiss his theory too quickly. Al Gore is our greatest living authority on being boring in debates.


Well both he and Obama are Nobel prize winners.

I belive in the last election, Obama won due to many of the undecided voters thinking " Maybe what Obama is talking about is possible, maybe - just maybe all this soaring rhetoric, and promises of healing the planet, living in a post racial enviroment, mending relationships around the world might actually happen" and so they voted with the longshot Obama rather than the Milquetoast Mcain canadate.

4 years later and we see we're really not that better off. Obama is faltering and has trouble running on his achievments. These debates are critical for the undecided voters. Obama shows up and drops the ball.

There's blood in the water and I think Obama is in serious trouble.
 
2012-10-05 09:07:41 AM  
But believing anything Mitt Isuzu said? That's lack of oxygen to the brain on the voters' part.
 
2012-10-05 09:18:42 AM  

2 grams: imontheinternet: Don;t dismiss his theory too quickly. Al Gore is our greatest living authority on being boring in debates.

Well both he and Obama are Nobel prize winners.

I belive in the last election, Obama won due to many of the undecided voters thinking " Maybe what Obama is talking about is possible, maybe - just maybe all this soaring rhetoric, and promises of healing the planet, living in a post racial enviroment, mending relationships around the world might actually happen" and so they voted with the longshot Obama rather than the Milquetoast Mcain canadate.

4 years later and we see we're really not that better off. Obama is faltering and has trouble running on his achievments. These debates are critical for the undecided voters. Obama shows up and drops the ball.

There's blood in the water and I think Obama is in serious trouble.


There's red food coloring in the water, maybe. You're right that the US hasn't become a golden paradise in the past 4 years. You're wrong in claiming that this is all or even mostly Obama's fault. He's not blameless, and no one credible suggests that he's been perfect, but he arrived in the middle of a hundred-year shiat blizzard and got the fleet of plows out as quickly as he could. Meanwhile, the GOP gremlins have been chewing the wheels and wiring off of the plows as fast and hard as they can while simultaneously denying they're doing so and denying any responsibility for calling down the shiat blizzard in the first place.

The democrats as a group have earned maybe a C+ over the past 4 years. The republicans have earned an expulsion for grossly unAmerican misconduct.
 
2012-10-05 09:21:19 AM  
CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.
 
2012-10-05 09:24:05 AM  

Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.


By no one I meant no one in our exchange. Get it?
 
2012-10-05 09:36:11 AM  
Talking to some folks that know about debate forensics, I was told that Obama was obviously trying to "lose." They said he broke several basic rules, including looking down a lot and not making eye contact, repeating the same points over and over without even really changing the language, and using stale, repeated lines from his past speeches and ads. He did this way too much for it to have just simply been an off day for him, they said. And something about his opening and closing remarks were full of several basic no-nos that they felt there was no way his team would have let it be done accidentally. He had to know what he was doing, they said.

Their theory is that Obama was merely extending the game of lowered expectations that both sides traditionally employ leading up to a debate in order to make a meh performance look better. Apparently this is not some groundbreaking tactic; he apparently did something similar with McCain. So now: Expectations are going to be REALLY low for Obama and REALLY high for Romney going into debate no. 2. Plus, Romney has tipped his hand pretty hard. They said to expect Obama to come out moderately but effectively more aggressive and for Romney to be caught off guard by that, and Obama will more than likely be seen as "winning" the next debate.
 
2012-10-05 09:43:26 AM  

Magnetar: Talking to some folks that know about debate forensics, I was told that Obama was obviously trying to "lose." They said he broke several basic rules, including looking down a lot and not making eye contact, repeating the same points over and over without even really changing the language, and using stale, repeated lines from his past speeches and ads. He did this way too much for it to have just simply been an off day for him, they said. And something about his opening and closing remarks were full of several basic no-nos that they felt there was no way his team would have let it be done accidentally. He had to know what he was doing, they said.

Their theory is that Obama was merely extending the game of lowered expectations that both sides traditionally employ leading up to a debate in order to make a meh performance look better. Apparently this is not some groundbreaking tactic; he apparently did something similar with McCain. So now: Expectations are going to be REALLY low for Obama and REALLY high for Romney going into debate no. 2. Plus, Romney has tipped his hand pretty hard. They said to expect Obama to come out moderately but effectively more aggressive and for Romney to be caught off guard by that, and Obama will more than likely be seen as "winning" the next debate.


That's just . . . a load of crap. People who know "debate forensics." WTF type of nonsense is that? Debating isn't some CSI bullshiat. Millions of us have done it in college and grad school. Stop pretending that this is some mysterious, magical Obama ploy. "Folks that know about debate forensics." Now I've heard everything.

Here's a debate forensic for you: DON'T GET YOUR ASS KICKED!

/tired of these freaky Obama long game apologists making all Dems look like they think Obama can do nothing wrong
 
2012-10-05 09:47:38 AM  
CPennypacker

Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.

By no one I meant no one in our exchange. Get it?



CPennypacker popped a plump pimple
Pouting that the President's pallor was pale
Pretending that packing a penny was perfect
Perhaps his posting proved his pitiful fail
 
2012-10-05 09:49:58 AM  
 
2012-10-05 09:58:29 AM  
Some people do worse than others at altitude... especially smokers. I'm not saying it's "the reason" for an unexpectedly weak performance, but it might have been a contributing factor. The man looked tired. Period.

I remember years ago, when GHWB was prez, he and Gorbechev had some big treaty negotiations. The White House and Kremlin agreed it should be on completely neutral territory, and Poppy's team suggested on a ship at sea. According to multiple sources, Gorby was seasick the entire time while Bush (an old sailor from way back) had no problems at all. Nice advantage, if you can get it.
 
2012-10-05 10:01:35 AM  
What played a bigger role is the fact that Obama doesn't need to debate Romney.
If he does he risks a gaff or giving ammunition to the republicans. His opponent is aggressive and will push on any numbers dropped on the table.
Instead he can sit back and let the media do its job of taking apart Romney while they also polishing the image of the president. 

/No one watches debates anyway.
 
2012-10-05 10:09:48 AM  

CPennypacker: Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.

By no one I meant no one in our exchange. Get it?


According to Fark forensics experts, CPennypacker is deliberately trying to come across as a nitwit in order to bring the shiat in another thread. Makes perfectly good sense.

/this whole thing is laughable. Obama lost the debate because he got out-debated.
 
2012-10-05 10:12:41 AM  

way south: What played a bigger role is the fact that Obama doesn't need to debate Romney.
If he does he risks a gaff or giving ammunition to the republicans. His opponent is aggressive and will push on any numbers dropped on the table.
Instead he can sit back and let the media do its job of taking apart Romney while they also polishing the image of the president. 

/No one watches debates anyway.


And by no one you mean 67 million people.
 
2012-10-05 10:15:46 AM  

TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: CPennypacker: Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.

By no one I meant no one in our exchange. Get it?

According to Fark forensics experts, CPennypacker is deliberately trying to come across as a nitwit in order to bring the shiat in another thread. Makes perfectly good sense.

/this whole thing is laughable. Obama lost the debate because he got out-debated.


What? He did get out debated. He looked like he was asleep.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:13 AM  
you're not helping?
 
2012-10-05 11:00:49 AM  

CPennypacker: TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: CPennypacker: Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.

By no one I meant no one in our exchange. Get it?

According to Fark forensics experts, CPennypacker is deliberately trying to come across as a nitwit in order to bring the shiat in another thread. Makes perfectly good sense.

/this whole thing is laughable. Obama lost the debate because he got out-debated.

What? He did get out debated. He looked like he was asleep.


I'll explain.

I was mocking your statement "nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate performance" by using the most prevalent and ridiculous excuse in this thread, that Obama deliberately threw the debate so that he could lay the smack down in a later debate.

Sorry to shamelessly use your comment to demonstrate the astoundingly stupid excuses being used to explain what was simply a beating.
 
2012-10-05 11:19:05 AM  
I agree with Al - Obama's attitude was the problem.
 
2012-10-05 12:10:48 PM  

TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: CPennypacker: TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: CPennypacker: Danger Mouse: CPennypacker: ....Nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate perfomance. I guess good ideas to you are just who can shout the most BS the loudest.

- Blink -

Huh? did you just say "No one is making excuses for Obama's performance" ? It's what this whole thread is about!!!! It's exactly what the topic is about. Talk about B.S. You're so full of it, I'm surprised your font isn't brown.

Honestly, you sound like Homer Simpson.1111


Wow.

By no one I meant no one in our exchange. Get it?

According to Fark forensics experts, CPennypacker is deliberately trying to come across as a nitwit in order to bring the shiat in another thread. Makes perfectly good sense.

/this whole thing is laughable. Obama lost the debate because he got out-debated.

What? He did get out debated. He looked like he was asleep.

I'll explain.

I was mocking your statement "nobody is making excuses for Obama's debate performance" by using the most prevalent and ridiculous excuse in this thread, that Obama deliberately threw the debate so that he could lay the smack down in a later debate.

Sorry to shamelessly use your comment to demonstrate the astoundingly stupid excuses being used to explain what was simply a beating.


Eh I'm fine with it. I can't wait to see the excuses that bubble up on November 6th
 
2012-10-05 12:14:24 PM  

CPennypacker: Eh I'm fine with it. I can't wait to see the excuses that bubble up on November 6th


ACORN
 
2012-10-05 01:06:54 PM  
Same excuse this guy always uses.
extras.mnginteractive.com
 
2012-10-05 01:11:03 PM  

EyeballKid: CPennypacker: Eh I'm fine with it. I can't wait to see the excuses that bubble up on November 6th

ACORN


Diebold?
 
2012-10-05 01:23:50 PM  
plausible. as a coastal lowlander, got alty sickness both in jackson hole and denver

still no excuse for that weaksauce
 
2012-10-06 07:09:11 AM  

TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: way south: What played a bigger role is the fact that Obama doesn't need to debate Romney.
If he does he risks a gaff or giving ammunition to the republicans. His opponent is aggressive and will push on any numbers dropped on the table.
Instead he can sit back and let the media do its job of taking apart Romney while they also polishing the image of the president. 

/No one watches debates anyway.

And by no one you mean 67 million people.


Alot of televisions were tuned to the channel, where they would have seen one candidate practically lecturing the other for over an hour.
What did the voters take away from the whole thing?

Big bird.

/Which is highlighted in the summary everyone got the next day.
/Which is all they needed to know.
/Which is how you know no one was actually watching the debate.
 
2012-10-06 03:30:12 PM  

shotglasss: Bigdogdaddy: I guess maybe he's been busy Presidentin' and probably had other things on his mind. Romney hasn't even had a job for 4 frikkin' years, unless you count sitting in his vault playing Scrooge McDuck.

That, or Obama just really didn't want it bad...and I hope that's not it.

How much Presidentin' does Obammy accomplish while sitting on The View? Or on Letterman? Or on the golf course? Or at the fundraisers he's at every night? Or throwing down with JayZ while not allowing pictures to be taken of him slamming eight hundred dollar bottles of champagne?

He wants the job desperately, because it gets him invited to all the cool parties and it lets him destroy the lives of millions of people he hates.


Wow, that's the most stupid I ever read in 6 sentences. Bonus points because most of them weren't complete anyway.
 
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