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2012-10-04 04:55:02 PM
He should've said it the way it was originally written. That would've hella trolled
 
2012-10-04 05:06:16 PM

Introitus: He should've said it the way it was originally written. That would've hella trolled


That would have been more heroic IMHO.
 
2012-10-04 05:17:31 PM
After the incident, Metcalfe told reporters, "I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag.

I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.
 
2012-10-04 05:19:28 PM
I would have said "loyalty oaths are best left to Communists"
 
2012-10-04 05:22:32 PM
Jesus Christ that's retarded.
 
2012-10-04 05:44:11 PM
Bravo for paying attention to that bit in Matthew 6:5-6. Good luck with the re-election campaign.
 
2012-10-04 06:48:16 PM
So many ways to tell who DNRTFA.
 
2012-10-04 07:21:38 PM

Introitus: He should've said it the way it was originally written. That would've hella trolled


He should have... If he were a "he".
 
2012-10-04 08:55:57 PM

abb3w: Bravo for paying attention to that bit in Matthew 6:5-6. Good luck with the re-election campaign.


From TFA:

Josephs, who represents the Philadelphia area, is retiring in a few days.

Nothing to lose. May as well pull a Bullworth.


PC LOAD LETTER: I would have said "loyalty oaths are best left to Communists"


FloydA: After the incident, Metcalfe told reporters, "I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag.

I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.


Heh. Both of these.

One nation, under Dog.
 
2012-10-04 09:04:51 PM

Introitus: He should've said it the way it was originally written. That would've hella trolled


Don't forget the original salute. Fox News and every other right wing website would have simultaneously exploded in fits of insanity.
 
2012-10-04 09:10:09 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-04 09:11:36 PM

abb3w: Bravo for paying attention to that bit in Matthew 6:5-6. Good luck with the re-election campaign.


She's retiring. Probably happy she doesn't have to put up with PDJ (public displays of jingoism) anymore.
 
2012-10-04 09:17:26 PM

FriarReb98: Don't forget the original salute.


Beautiful.
 
2012-10-04 09:18:09 PM
FTFA: It's a person's right to not say the pledge, but I don't believe anybody should be in elected office that holds that position, and I think a majority of Americans wouldn't elect somebody if they held that position."

Of course--it would be so terrible to have a Jehovah's Witness serving in a public position, right?
 
2012-10-04 09:21:09 PM

FriarReb98: Don't forget the original salute. Fox News and every other right wing website would have simultaneously exploded in fits of insanity.


upload.wikimedia.org

HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE DECEMBER 22nd, 1942 AMENDMENT TO THE FLAG CODE
 
2012-10-04 09:23:11 PM

Somacandra: HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE DECEMBER 22nd, 1942 AMENDMENT TO THE FLAG CODE


HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH!
 
2012-10-04 10:03:57 PM
As one of those godless heathens myself I usually just skip the god part whenever i have to lead a pledge (was mostly when i was in school). Nobody has ever said anything to me about doing it that way . Just always seemed to be a nice compromise.
 
2012-10-04 10:08:11 PM

FloydA: After the incident, Metcalfe told reporters, "I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag.

I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.


Everyone sees the first clause ("I pledge allegiance to the flag") and forgets the second one ("and to the republic for which it stands"). The oath is also to the republic, which should a lot less controversial to an public official. When I recite it, I stay silent when everyone says "under God".
 
2012-10-04 10:40:53 PM
Good for her. The Pledge of Allegiance is fkn stupid - for many reasons.
 
2012-10-04 11:07:51 PM

abb3w: Bravo for paying attention to that bit in Matthew 6:5-6. Good luck with the re-election campaign.


Heh...if I ever felt like holding public office (and no one did me the favor of slapping some sense into me), I know I'd have to play certain stupid games like pretend to be sincere while pledging allegiance to a flag.

But after I decided to retire, and after my final election, I would have a field day: declare my atheism, refuse to recite, or stand for the pledge, insist that atheists, and agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, $cientologists, etc, etc, etc all get a turn at opening a session with a prayer (if I'm in a place where that shiat is done) and so on.

And when people tried to get rid of me, I'd remind the whiners about that pesky little "no religious test" thingy in the Constitution and call in the ACLU to defend me. Then I'd watch the Real Aericans squirm and biatch and I'd laaaaaaugh and laugh and laugh

All that would require far too much effort, but man it'd be sweeeeeet
 
2012-10-04 11:54:23 PM
www.dba-oracle.com

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With liberty, and justice for all.
 
2012-10-05 12:00:25 AM
God Bless her.

//I only say the pledge as originally written - by a baptist preacher no less.

///My main beef is with people thinking they can do better than the original artist.

////FARK THE REVISIONS
 
2012-10-05 12:01:57 AM

slayer199: Introitus: He should've said it the way it was originally written. That would've hella trolled

That would have been more heroic IMHO.


Same

But the only reason I think she did this is because of this: Josephs, who represents the Philadelphia area, is retiring in a few days.
 
2012-10-05 12:02:46 AM

Ricardo Klement: Jesus Christ that's retarded.


This whole debate is retarded.
 
2012-10-05 12:03:33 AM
Matthew 6:5, you stupid Republican bastards.
 
2012-10-05 12:07:45 AM

FloydA: After the incident, Metcalfe told reporters, "I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag.

I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.


"I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United State of America..."


/since 9/11
 
2012-10-05 12:10:53 AM
The words "under god" are as badly shoe-horned as the witches in the Scottish play.

/Not an English Major
//They just don't fit.
 
2012-10-05 12:14:02 AM
A woman? a Democrat?

Yep.
 
2012-10-05 12:16:03 AM

wildcardjack: The words "under god" are as badly shoe-horned as the witches in the Scottish play.

/Not an English Major
//They just don't fit.


Sure they do. You just have to say it like a middle schooler:

I pledge allegiance to the flag [gasp]
Of the unitedstatesofamerica [gasp]
and to the republic [gasp]
of which it stands [gasp]
one nation [gasp]
under god [gasp]
in - divisible [gasp]
withlibertyandjusticeforall [flop into seat]
 
2012-10-05 12:18:19 AM
As everyone was standing to say the pledge, Josephs said, "Based on my First Amendment rights and based on the fact that I really think it's a prayer, I don't pray in public.

Good for her.
 
2012-10-05 12:20:30 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: I would have said "loyalty oaths are best left to Communists"


Hey now, that oath was written by a Nationalist Socialist. Not a communist! Shame on you for suggesting that it has anything to do with the dirty commies.
 
2012-10-05 12:21:58 AM

RedVentrue: A woman? a Democrat?

Yep.


Probably one o' them uppity darkies too.
 
2012-10-05 12:27:57 AM
Christianity is stupid

I plead alignment to the flakes of the untitled snakes of a merry cow and to the republicans for which they scam one nacho, underpants with licorice and jugs of wine for owls
 
2012-10-05 01:00:02 AM
On the rare occasions I say the pledge, I leave out the 'under God" Part.
 
2012-10-05 01:07:41 AM
"I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag. It's a person's right to not say the pledge, but I don't believe anybody should be in elected office that holds that position, and I think a majority of Americans wouldn't elect somebody if they held that position."

If that's your only reason for not electing someone or denying them a position then you're an idiot.
 
2012-10-05 01:07:47 AM
Wow... this thread really shows the lack of interest in this subject.. I only posted out of pity... ;-)
 
2012-10-05 01:15:57 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Good for her. The Pledge of Allegiance is fkn stupid - for many reasons.


Yes, but it's more fun to tell people it was written by a soshulist
 
2012-10-05 01:20:27 AM

ifarkthereforiam: On the rare occasions I say the pledge, I leave out the 'under God" Part.


www.wareagleextra.com
 
2012-10-05 01:24:57 AM
Ah, Republicans, is there no issue you don't have a retarded position on?

/no offense intended towards retards, who are clearly far more intellectually capable than most GOPers.
 
2012-10-05 01:33:30 AM

halB: //I only say the pledge as originally written - by a baptist preacher no less.


Huh, I knew he was a Socialist. I didn't know he was also a Baptist preacher.

/the novel he wrote is pretty good for 19th century sci-fi.
 
2012-10-05 01:35:03 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: It's a person's right to not say the pledge, but I don't believe anybody should be in elected office that holds that position, and I think a majority of Americans wouldn't elect somebody if they held that position."

Of course--it would be so terrible to have a Jehovah's Witness serving in a public position, right?


Well, not ideal at least. Plus it'd certainly be doctrinally contradictory as they're not supposed to seek public office.
 
2012-10-05 01:53:43 AM

Rashnu: doctrinally contradictory


Band name!

What? It rolls off the tongue.

/Okay, no it doesn't.
 
2012-10-05 02:01:53 AM
It's disgusting that we still make kids do this every day of their school lives. Like a kid knows what the hell they're saying and the ramifications. What kind of sick country expects their youth to verbally pledge allegiance daily? Isn't one time, when someone turns 18 and by choice, enough?
 
2012-10-05 02:02:00 AM
Good for you lady, and good usage of the "Hero" tag.

/good for you
 
2012-10-05 02:03:50 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: It's a person's right to not say the pledge, but I don't believe anybody should be in elected office that holds that position, and I think a majority of Americans wouldn't elect somebody if they held that position."

Of course--it would be so terrible to have a Jehovah's Witness serving in a public position, right?


Not that that's on topic, but yeah. Although with all the door-knocking, any JW may have a leg up on GOTV drives.
 
2012-10-05 02:18:18 AM
Loyalty oaths are creepy. Even more so when we push our children into learning them before they can understand the meaning of the words. Seems like something commies would do.
 
2012-10-05 02:25:47 AM

FloydA: I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.


That bothers me more. It scares me that we basically have kids pledging loyalty to supposedly free nation before they even know what they are saying. I really don't see that the pledge is necessary or "patriotic". Standing for the National Anthem is one thing, you are paying respect, but you're not swearing an oath of any kind.

On a side note, I'll be damned if I'll stand for farking "God Bless America" or that goddamned Lee Greenwood crap, either. We have a National Anthem, let's leave it at that. Gives us more time to enjoy our Freedom Fries™ anyway...
 
2012-10-05 02:28:32 AM

Lord Jubjub: The oath is also to the republic, which should a lot less controversial to an public official.


Except that they already do that when they are sworn in, usually. Either way, they ARE still pledging allegiance to the flag(As well as the Republic).
 
2012-10-05 02:31:01 AM

gadian: It's disgusting that we still make kids do this every day of their school lives. Like a kid knows what the hell they're saying and the ramifications. What kind of sick country expects their youth to verbally pledge allegiance daily? Isn't one time, when someone turns 18 and by choice, enough?


Seems a little Hitler Youth to me, the more I think about it.
 
2012-10-05 02:36:01 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: Rashnu: doctrinally contradictory

Band name!

What? It rolls off the tongue.

/Okay, no it doesn't.


Could have been a Dead Kennedys' song back in the day, though.
 
2012-10-05 03:38:55 AM
The last time I said the Pledge was second grade. Once I gave it a little thought, I went home and asked my dad if I had to say it, and he told me I didn't. Refused all through high school, and pissed off quite a few teachers in the process. I wouldn't even stand. One of my teachers kicked me out of his homeroom for the entire year.

/We're good friends now
//CSB
 
2012-10-05 04:55:44 AM

wildcardjack: The words "under god" are as badly shoe-horned as the witches in the Scottish play.
/Not an English Major
//They just don't fit.


Do you mean "Macbeth?"
www.wearysloth.com
 
2012-10-05 05:12:21 AM
Last time I checked this is America.

Say it or don't, I don't care.
 
2012-10-05 05:31:13 AM
Ah, the old "I'm retiring, so NOW I'm going to take a principled stance" play...
 
2012-10-05 06:21:26 AM

FloydA: After the incident, Metcalfe told reporters, "I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag.

I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.


So she said it all the other times, but because she is retiring, she decided not to say it? Must be tough living a lie.
 
2012-10-05 06:25:09 AM

GhostFish: Loyalty oaths are creepy. Even more so when we push our children into learning them before they can understand the meaning of the words. Seems like something commies would do.


So is having liberal teachers say that George Washington was a communist because he had slaves, or that hunting deer is immoral, or that kids should tell the police that daddy has (legal) guns in the house.
 
2012-10-05 06:42:32 AM

MBrady: GhostFish: Loyalty oaths are creepy. Even more so when we push our children into learning them before they can understand the meaning of the words. Seems like something commies would do.

So is having liberal teachers say that George Washington was a communist because he had slaves, or that hunting deer is immoral, or that kids should tell the police that daddy has (legal) guns in the house.


So one thing ACTUALLY HAPPENS (GhostFish's comment) and you go off on some shiat your pants bullshiat? Show me one factual article where a teacher claimed George Washington was a communist because he had slaves.

You're a really bad troll, or a chicken shiat, pants wetting idiot...
 
2012-10-05 06:51:00 AM

MBrady: GhostFish: Loyalty oaths are creepy. Even more so when we push our children into learning them before they can understand the meaning of the words. Seems like something commies would do.

So is having liberal teachers say that George Washington was a communist because he had slaves, or that hunting deer is immoral, or that kids should tell the police that daddy has (legal) guns in the house.


fc08.deviantart.net
 
2012-10-05 06:55:37 AM

Z-clipped: The last time I said the Pledge was second grade. Once I gave it a little thought, I went home and asked my dad if I had to say it, and he told me I didn't. Refused all through high school, and pissed off quite a few teachers in the process. I wouldn't even stand. One of my teachers kicked me out of his homeroom for the entire year.

/We're good friends now
//CSB


I wouldn't have kicked you out. I give my students the choice to pledge, ether the US or the Texas(which aleo has that shoehorned phrase). It's their right, and i won't deprive them of that.

/i only pledge on Mondays
 
2012-10-05 06:59:43 AM
I really don't understand people who have a problem with reciting the Pledge Of Allegiance because of the Under God part. If you have that much of a problem with saying Under God, why not just simply not say those two words instead of refusing to say the entire pledge?
 
2012-10-05 07:11:47 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: Rashnu: doctrinally contradictory

Band name!

What? It rolls off the tongue.

/Okay, no it doesn't.


Contra Doctrine. I'm pretty sure it has to do with shooting diagonally.
 
2012-10-05 07:39:43 AM

tudorgurl: Z-clipped: The last time I said the Pledge was second grade. Once I gave it a little thought, I went home and asked my dad if I had to say it, and he told me I didn't. Refused all through high school, and pissed off quite a few teachers in the process. I wouldn't even stand. One of my teachers kicked me out of his homeroom for the entire year.

/We're good friends now
//CSB

I wouldn't have kicked you out. I give my students the choice to pledge, ether the US or the Texas(which aleo has that shoehorned phrase). It's their right, and i won't deprive them of that.

/i only pledge on Mondays


Texas has a pledge of its own? That you all say as often as the flag pledge? huh...
 
2012-10-05 08:09:39 AM
Once again the Hero tag is misused.
 
2012-10-05 08:14:01 AM

tudorgurl: I wouldn't have kicked you out. I give my students the choice to pledge, ether the US or the Texas(which aleo has that shoehorned phrase). It's their right, and i won't deprive them of that.


I think it was more the "refusing to stand" part that got under his skin. Anyway, I just sat on the floor in the hall outside the classroom, which was fine by me, since it got me out of having to watch that bullshiat "advertizing disguised as educational news" program they started showing in schools in the early 90s.

It's good that you don't try to force your kids to pledge, but do you make them stand, or be silent and pay attention while others are doing it? Or are they free to talk amongst themselves or do homework, or whatever?

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: I really don't understand people who have a problem with reciting the Pledge Of Allegiance because of the Under God part. If you have that much of a problem with saying Under God, why not just simply not say those two words instead of refusing to say the entire pledge?


That's kind of the religious version of "it's not gay if the balls don't touch", don't you think?

While we're at it, how about if we open every school day with a big, simultaneous, standing recitation of the Lord's Prayer, and anyone who's not a christian can just leave out the parts they don't want to say?

The real, non-snarky answer: In my experience, the people who refuse to say the pledge because of the religious language would probably only barely tolerate the insipid blind nationalism of the tradition even if we were to officially remove "under god". The creepiness of the loyalty oath aside, the fact is, the only reason to emphasize those words, (or fight for their continued inclusion) is to assert or reinforce the incorrect notion that the United States is a religious nation. Think about the connotation of someone saying the pledge and loudly emphasizing those two words so that everyone else in the room can hear them. If religious people didn't do that kind of shiat on the regular, there wouldn't be half as many atheists making an issue out things like this.

The way I see it, anyone over the age of 10 who recites the Pledge is, to some degree, just like this guy:

blog.cleveland.com
 
2012-10-05 08:17:04 AM

colonel0sanders: Texas has a pledge of its own?


Never actually been to Texas huh? If you had, you'd understand.
 
2012-10-05 08:41:51 AM
I just change it up:

"...One nation, WITHOUT god..."

Hey, if they can command you to say it one way, they can command you to say it another way as well.
 
2012-10-05 09:03:59 AM
Hero?? How about major asshat
 
2012-10-05 09:06:49 AM

Z-clipped: colonel0sanders: Texas has a pledge of its own?

Never actually been to Texas huh? If you had, you'd understand.


At my my kids elementary assembly a month ago....3 pledges, I shiat thee not. Last one was some pledge to be honest to god or sumshiat. Alot of parents looking around at each other confused, myself included.
 
2012-10-05 09:11:33 AM
so she refused to say the pledge of a allegiance to the gov't that she has been drawing a paycheck and benefits from for years. She knew upon taking the job that the pledge is required and as long as she wanted to keep the job she recited it faithfully and now she gets all uppity and decides she is too good for the pledge.

if you don't want your child to have to say the pledge send them to a private school where it isn't required.
 
2012-10-05 09:50:24 AM

MBrady: GhostFish: Loyalty oaths are creepy. Even more so when we push our children into learning them before they can understand the meaning of the words. Seems like something commies would do.

So is having liberal teachers say that George Washington was a communist because he had slaves, or that hunting deer is immoral, or that kids should tell the police that daddy has (legal) guns in the house.


George Washington was a communist?

// Thanks Mike Brady- I never would have known about this if it wasn't for you bringing to to light

// End snark
 
2012-10-05 09:52:01 AM

Waldo Pepper: so she refused to say the pledge of a allegiance to the gov't that she has been drawing a paycheck and benefits from for years. She knew upon taking the job that the pledge is required and as long as she wanted to keep the job she recited it faithfully and now she gets all uppity and decides she is too good for the pledge.

if you don't want your child to have to say the pledge send them to a private school where it isn't required.


Know how I know you didn't read the article?

// Or perhaps you simply haven't been to America and you don't know better?
 
2012-10-05 09:56:29 AM

fusillade762: From TFA: Josephs, who represents the Philadelphia area, is retiring in a few days.


Ah. Explains a bit.

Waldo Pepper: so she refused to say the pledge of a allegiance to the gov't that she has been drawing a paycheck and benefits from for years.


Technically, no, in several respects.

First, she refused to say one to the flag, not to the government.
Second, she has been drawing a state paycheck, not a federal; the pledge is to the flag of the US, not of Pennsylvania.

If it had been a federal matter, her protection would have made it even more solid; the presence of "under god" arguably makes such willingness a religious test, directly banned. However, Torcaso v. Watkins means it would also be unconstitutional under the state requirement.

Third, WV vs Barnette probably leaves requiring the flag pledge to be dubiously constitutional as a requirement on even a government official, under free speech grounds. You can require a non-religious oath to the constitution, similar to the Presidential, but one to the flag would be more difficult.

Waldo Pepper: if you don't want your child to have to say the pledge send them to a private school where it isn't required.


Public schools can't legally require children to say the pledge; WV vs Barnette again.
Though the earlier Minersville v Gobitis means that the reason is not because of religion; it's because compelled speech is not generally permissible.

But IAmNotALawyer; maybe one of them will sound off.
 
2012-10-05 10:29:44 AM

mediablitz: MBrady: GhostFish: Loyalty oaths are creepy. Even more so when we push our children into learning them before they can understand the meaning of the words. Seems like something commies would do.

So is having liberal teachers say that George Washington was a communist because he had slaves, or that hunting deer is immoral, or that kids should tell the police that daddy has (legal) guns in the house.

So one thing ACTUALLY HAPPENS (GhostFish's comment) and you go off on some shiat your pants bullshiat? Show me one factual article where a teacher claimed George Washington was a communist because he had slaves.

You're a really bad troll, or a chicken shiat, pants wetting idiot...


So you're more concerned that George was a communist then having a teacher tell a 4th grader that their father should be in jail for shooting bambi?

Glad I got your attention jackass.
 
2012-10-05 10:39:51 AM
I used to just remain silent for the "under God" portion of the pledge.

Now I skip it entirely and go straight into "indivisible" and muddy the ending due to my loud voice. This is especially notable as chairman on a school board while wearing a microphone.

Some people asked if I didn't know the pledge - not a single person knew that it had been changed after I explained. A board member that sits next to me does the same thing now...
 
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2012-10-05 10:49:22 AM
By placing the nation under god. It is no longer a pledge to the nation, but rather to god.
"Under God" literally, as well as figuratively, divides a nation, once indivisible.
This woman is standing up for her religion and for her nation.
Good for her.
 
2012-10-05 10:51:35 AM
How many times does one need to make an oath? Do we do our wedding vows every morning (maybe we should)? How about the Hippocratic oath? What does it mean to the person saying it? The more you say it, the more patriotic you are?
 
2012-10-05 11:33:56 AM

lj1330: How many times does one need to make an oath?


Once. The rest are just to remind you.

lj1330: Do we do our wedding vows every morning (maybe we should)?


Might be an interesting study to do - would this reduce infidelity?
 
2012-10-05 11:54:25 AM

lennavan: lj1330: How many times does one need to make an oath?

Once. The rest are just to remind you.

lj1330: Do we do our wedding vows every morning (maybe we should)?

Might be an interesting study to do - would this reduce infidelity?


Better yet- if you skipped saying them some morning would cheating be considered ok that day?

// I like where this is going...
 
2012-10-05 12:19:56 PM

Leeds: lennavan: lj1330: How many times does one need to make an oath?

Once. The rest are just to remind you.

lj1330: Do we do our wedding vows every morning (maybe we should)?

Might be an interesting study to do - would this reduce infidelity?

Better yet- if you skipped saying them some morning would cheating be considered ok that day?

// I like where this is going...


No because presumably your vows on your wedding day included a variation on the words "until death" rather than "until tomorrow morning."
 
2012-10-05 12:28:51 PM
What if we threw "Under God" in there somewhere?
 
2012-10-05 12:36:55 PM

orclover: Z-clipped: colonel0sanders: Texas has a pledge of its own?

Never actually been to Texas huh? If you had, you'd understand.

At my my kids elementary assembly a month ago....3 pledges, I shiat thee not. Last one was some pledge to be honest to god or sumshiat. Alot of parents looking around at each other confused, myself included.


Weird. It turns out KY has a flag pledge, too. I have lived here my entire life and never heard it.

I pledge allegiance to the Kentucky flag,
And to the Sovereign State for which it stands,
One Commonwealth, blessed with diversity, natural wealth, beauty,
And grace from on High.


Apparently it was written/adopted in 2000.
 
2012-10-05 01:14:53 PM

TheWhoppah: Christianity is stupid

I plead alignment to the flakes of the untitled snakes of a merry cow and to the republicans for which they scam one nacho, underpants with licorice liver tea and jugs of wine for owls


If you are gonna do at least get it right.

/That's how I said that part in school for years.
 
2012-10-05 01:23:26 PM
How about the libs stop being all self-righteous crusading Lisa Simpsoning douchebags, and all the rednecks stop manufacturing contrived patriotic masturbatory outrage? Is that too much to ask from everyone?

This is why I hate activists.
 
2012-10-05 01:28:34 PM

ifarkthereforiam: On the rare occasions I say the pledge, I leave out the 'under God" Part.


i like robin williams' suggestion:

"under canada"
 
2012-10-05 01:41:58 PM

Waldo Pepper: so she refused to say the pledge of a allegiance to the gov't that she has been drawing a paycheck and benefits from for years. She knew upon taking the job that the pledge is required and as long as she wanted to keep the job she recited it faithfully and now she gets all uppity and decides she is too good for the pledge.

if you don't want your child to have to say the pledge send them to a private school where it isn't required.


the pledge was written by a socialist, ps
 
2012-10-05 03:43:55 PM

FloydA: After the incident, Metcalfe told reporters, "I think it is shocking that any elected official would not pledge allegiance to the flag.

I think it's shocking that people swear oaths of loyalty to pieces of cloth. Your move, Metcalfe.


Metcalfe is an asshole. I'm so glad I don't live in his district.
 
2012-10-06 01:39:14 AM

Introitus: He should've said it the way it was originally written. That would've hella trolled


This. The pledge as originally recognized by Congress in 1942 works just fine, thanks:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

There was no need to change the pledge. (I'm rather happy they ditched the Bellamy salute, though.)
 
2012-10-06 04:45:42 AM

Z-clipped: The real, non-snarky answer...


Thanx, that does help :-) If I were an atheist, I too would be annoyed by people putting more emphasis on the Under God part than what there already is.
 
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