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(Houston Press)   Houston City Council doesn't want to allow food trucks downtown because they pose a "terrorist threat"   (blogs.houstonpress.com) divider line 43
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2012-10-04 03:36:32 PM  
5 votes:
That's getting to be a really, really tired excuse

/typically used by cowards and liars
2012-10-04 07:08:05 PM  
2 votes:
Texas: You can buy booze and liquor at a drive through, but a taco truck is just too dangerous.
2012-10-04 07:01:03 PM  
2 votes:

Mock26: BitwiseShift: Why stop at food trucks? How about every restaurant and grocery store, too, in Houston.

He is probably taking money from restaurant owners who fear that food trucks will drive them out of business.



In Austin, the smart restaurant owners and chefs have started their own food trucks. Health codes require much prep work to be done in a commercial kitchen, and they already have that, making the overhead of the truck very low.

Also, by stating "such and such truck is by Chef Amazing" it gives both truck and restaurant additional cachet. For example, Paul Qui and the East Side King mini-franchise of deliciousness. It's a win for everyone.
2012-10-04 06:09:29 PM  
2 votes:
The local restaurant owners in Lexington KY are trying their damndest to get the city council to ban food trucks here. Only problem is, the food truck I have eaten from are health department checked, they have to post their scores in plain sight on the front window, their food is usually great, and the new breweries don't have food licenses so they LOVE the food trucks.

Suck it, restaurant bums.

Ellos tacos FTW
2012-10-04 04:03:26 PM  
2 votes:
I think the excuse local restaurants use here in Raleigh is the food trucks don't have things like bathrooms and lower amount of employees so they have lower overhead and wahhhhhhhhhhh!

I'm not quite sure what leverage the restaurant owners have over local government though.
2012-10-04 03:48:29 PM  
2 votes:
Houston with it's famous lack of zoning laws decides to draw the line at food trucks? WTF Houston?
2012-10-04 03:42:36 PM  
2 votes:
BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCARY

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2012-10-04 03:36:43 PM  
2 votes:
I've heard this argument before in other towns. It usually comes down to local restaurant businesses telling the town council to pretend the food trucks are a terror threat.

I don't know why they'd want to do that... nope. No idea.

It's a shame too. There are some pretty decent food trucks in Houston.
2012-10-04 10:36:27 PM  
1 votes:

DeathByGeekSquad: It's a bit interesting to see folks fascination with the Middle East, but little acceptance that the relative peace we enjoy here in the States is not always the case around the world. Yes, people say "Oh, I know...", but do they really think about it? If you were going to construct a car/truck bomb, would you not think to use something like a Food Truck as a base? It's already got a gas reservoir, and propellants/fuel wouldn't look that out of place at first glance.

I'm clearly not suggesting that Houston is about to be bombarded with Food Truck Bombs, but in the general sense Food Truck as a Potential Threat is somewhat feasible - given the right circumstances.


I can think of a whole lot of things that are Potential Threats under the right circumstances, but that's hardly a reason to ban them from downtown locations.
2012-10-04 10:31:09 PM  
1 votes:
2012-10-04 10:05:34 PM  
1 votes:

bmr68: That's the Houston I know and hate.

I work downtown and food trucks would be a logical fit in some areas.


But, like the cable companies, the restaurants fear real competition.
2012-10-04 10:00:15 PM  
1 votes:

I May Be Crazy But...: Salacious Salad: I May Be Crazy But...: loonatic112358: elchupacabra: Good, send 'em to Austin -- our Food Trucks are awesome!

is it not bad enough that ya'll seem to be stealing the music scene as well, but now the food trucks

STEAL?!? No, Austin IS the music scene. Houston just hopes to get a little contact high by standing real close and breathing deep.

I may have said too much about the Austin music people...

Shut up, Austin sucks and no one should ever move there.

Hey, I had to move away. So everyone, Austin is a paradise. There's beautiful spring fed pools where women don't wear tops. And great music and food. And a permissive culture. I'm not even kidding.

All you Californians should keep moving there and ruining it.


You go to the hell, you go to the hell and you die.
2012-10-04 09:45:19 PM  
1 votes:
We had awesome food trucks outside of my high school. The local public high school had a KenTacoHut in their cafeteria.

/italian beef sandwiches...mmm. i need to find a recipe.
2012-10-04 09:28:40 PM  
1 votes:

pxlboy: TheDirtyNacho: Mock26: BitwiseShift: Why stop at food trucks? How about every restaurant and grocery store, too, in Houston.

He is probably taking money from restaurant owners who fear that food trucks will drive them out of business.


In Austin, the smart restaurant owners and chefs have started their own food trucks. Health codes require much prep work to be done in a commercial kitchen, and they already have that, making the overhead of the truck very low.

Also, by stating "such and such truck is by Chef Amazing" it gives both truck and restaurant additional cachet. For example, Paul Qui and the East Side King mini-franchise of deliciousness. It's a win for everyone.

Good point. The closest food truck to us is operated by a local Mexican joint. The food truck is an expansion of that business and is always busy. The restaurants should get it together and compete -- or go out of business.


Reminds me a bit of downtown Chicago, where the restaurant owners have managed to keep push cart vendors banned for quite some time. They claim that it would drive them out of business. Yet, they do not seem to care when a new restaurant opens up.
2012-10-04 09:03:32 PM  
1 votes:

downstairs: Satanic_Hamster: Live outside of Houston, been following this. The big / real issue; downtown restaurants don't want their businesses hurt by competition.


Yep.  Its pretty pathetic.  Now, I don't mind some rules like we have down here... you have to be X feet (or blocks) from a stand-alone restaurant.
 
The funny thing is here in New Orleans some of the fancy restaurants are the biggest cry babies.
 
Really?  I'm going to take the wife out on a nice date to a fancy place and drop $120 on food and drink... and we pass a taco truck and say "wait, lets just buy some tacos and sit on the street and eat them!"
 
Stupid.


If you give people good food "too cheaply", it makes the fancy places look that much more expensive by comparison.
2012-10-04 08:47:43 PM  
1 votes:
This is on the level of the Senator who thought Guam might capsize if there were too many people on it.
2012-10-04 08:44:07 PM  
1 votes:

downstairs: Dealing with this crap down here in New Orleans, too.  Though they haven't used the "terrorist" angle.  Yet.
 
And we have some awesome food trucks.


Restaurant owners always cry foul, claiming that the food trucks have an "unfair advantage" (low startup costs, no rent, etc). And that's a shame, because who doesn't like grabbing a cheap, quick bite that isn't Burger King?

As long as the restaurateurs complain about food trucks stealing their profits whenever the issue crops up, city council will never approve widespread food trucks. Hell, it took decades just to approve those bicycle taxis because the cabbies always aligned against it.
2012-10-04 08:25:45 PM  
1 votes:

ClavellBCMI: Oh, and the building I work at chased off the food truck that had been servicing us for the last three years... because the company that is moving part of their operation into the building complained. A Japanese-owned auto-parts manufacturer. Whose employees, at their assembly plant that is literally across the street, have to buy their food from the company-owned cafeteria.


When I worked at a well-known newspaper catering to the military, we couldn't run any ads for Japanese automobiles near or around stories about World War II. Really.
2012-10-04 08:23:29 PM  
1 votes:
Food trucks aren't allowed downtown in Houston for one reason...

Those filthy, stinking, wetback Mexicans with their shiat mobiles, stinking the place up with their road kill tacos and sewer water filled sinks.

Actually, it's because Houston has always been hard on food trucks until recently. They're changing laws to make it easier for food trucks, but this "keep them out of downtown" crap is a last-ditch attempt to stop them.

Houston makes it very hard to run a food truck. You HAVE to use one of their handful of preapproved commissaries (cronies of the city) - meaning - you have to PAY them to use their services so you can dump and clean out all of your equipment EVERYDAY. Can't be trusted to clean it on your own.

There are hundreds of crappy food trucks around too. "Lucy's Pink Taco" in Aldine has rats crawling out the window - it's a frigging mobile vehicle!

Hopefully they get all this resolved, because food trucks are good.
2012-10-04 08:22:45 PM  
1 votes:
Osama won.
Especially in shiat-stoopid Texas.
2012-10-04 07:57:20 PM  
1 votes:
What a lot of restaurant owners seem to misunderstand is that it's better to have more food options in their neighborhood than fewer. If there are a lot of places to eat in a neighborhood, people start to gravitate towards it whenever they want a meal, because there are so many choices. They think that they'll do better if they have a monopoly, but the reality is that they'll do better if they are part of an area with a vibrant and varied food scene.

OTOH, they may complain about the food trucks because it may mean they have to produce something a little more interesting than what they've done in the past.
2012-10-04 07:43:12 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, and the building I work at chased off the food truck that had been servicing us for the last three years... because the company that is moving part of their operation into the building complained. A Japanese-owned auto-parts manufacturer. Whose employees, at their assembly plant that is literally across the street, have to buy their food from the company-owned cafeteria.
2012-10-04 07:19:21 PM  
1 votes:

CygnusDarius: indylaw: Texas: You can buy booze and liquor at a drive through, but a taco truck is just too dangerous.

Why not move the trucks indoors? Same cooking, only on a building. Some people do that here.


You mean park them in a garage, or just open a restaurant instead? It's not the same. I'm not sure you could run a food truck in a parking garage without carbon monoxide issues.
2012-10-04 07:08:25 PM  
1 votes:
Discovered a kebab truck just a few weeks ago. Sooo glad I did.

/Yes, we have food trucks here, too
//What? It goes both ways, like a reach around
///... Wait, that didn't sound good
2012-10-04 06:37:50 PM  
1 votes:
You know what else causes terrorism? Paranoid hallucinations brought on by staggering ignorance.
2012-10-04 06:30:20 PM  
1 votes:

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: The local restaurant owners in Lexington KY are trying their damndest to get the city council to ban food trucks here. Only problem is, the food truck I have eaten from are health department checked, they have to post their scores in plain sight on the front window, their food is usually great, and the new breweries don't have food licenses so they LOVE the food trucks.

Suck it, restaurant bums.

Ellos tacos FTW


Same situation here in L.A. - the brick n' mortar community is split . The restaurants hate the food trucks, the bars love them.
2012-10-04 06:19:58 PM  
1 votes:
When shawarma is outlawed, only outlaws will have shawarma.

/shawarma
2012-10-04 06:14:54 PM  
1 votes:
Texas. For when the Florida tag isn't stupid enough.
2012-10-04 06:13:48 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds to me like local business owners having the heavy overhead of a lease in a prime area of real estate are getting butthurt over the competition. Convenient excuse - terrorism.

Here in New York they tried this excuse amongst others. The latest manifestation is that food trucks pose a health risk since they aren't succeptible to the suprise buttsecks health department inspection and grading that the store-fronts are.
2012-10-04 05:42:16 PM  
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Live outside of Houston, been following this. The big / real issue; downtown restaurants don't want their businesses hurt by competition.


If you have AC, drinks, bathrooms and proper tables and you can't compete with the hot dog cart you have a farked up business model.
2012-10-04 05:33:03 PM  
1 votes:
Live outside of Houston, been following this. The big / real issue; downtown restaurants don't want their businesses hurt by competition.
2012-10-04 05:28:12 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob: BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCARY

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These brown people frown on your shenanigans

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2012-10-04 05:09:42 PM  
1 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com

Weapons of mass destruction.

www.laughoutnews.com
2012-10-04 05:07:04 PM  
1 votes:
imageshack.us

The real threat isn't terrorism, it's COMMUNISM.
2012-10-04 05:05:52 PM  
1 votes:
Street food vendors are not allowed in downtown Houston because of laws passed years ago when scores of people were sickened from bad hot-dogs sold during a fair.
Now they're trying to block out all the trucks which are becoming more and more popular.
City health inspectors already make it difficult to operate the food trucks.
Food trucks have to dump their water in a specific location daily.
they are not allowed to be near chairs, but they must be within a certain distance of a bathroom...
2012-10-04 05:04:23 PM  
1 votes:
Good, send 'em to Austin -- our Food Trucks are awesome!
2012-10-04 04:42:41 PM  
1 votes:

Nabb1: Diogenes: Dancin_In_Anson: cretinbob: BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCARY

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What "brown people" are you referring to?

Just because the article doesn't suggest what his true motivations might be doesn't mean we can't speculate.

So, he's either a dumbass or he has problem with Mexicans. Which would you prefer?

/yes, i rtfa
//realize he's brown, too

Hey, mister, other ethnicities sell food from a truck. Open your mind, man. If you want to see somewhere where they nixed foot trucks because they don't like Mexicans, that would be Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. Fascists. I love taco trucks.


Oh, man. We used to have the most awesome Cuban truck at work. She made the best picadillo I ever had.

Then they kicked her commie ass outta there!

/actually, she opened a restaurant
2012-10-04 04:39:53 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: Dancin_In_Anson: cretinbob: BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCARY

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What "brown people" are you referring to?

Just because the article doesn't suggest what his true motivations might be doesn't mean we can't speculate.

So, he's either a dumbass or he has problem with Mexicans. Which would you prefer?

/yes, i rtfa
//realize he's brown, too


Hey, mister, other ethnicities sell food from a truck. Open your mind, man. If you want to see somewhere where they nixed foot trucks because they don't like Mexicans, that would be Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. Fascists. I love taco trucks.
2012-10-04 04:30:17 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: cretinbob: BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCARY

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What "brown people" are you referring to?


Just because the article doesn't suggest what his true motivations might be doesn't mean we can't speculate.

So, he's either a dumbass or he has problem with Mexicans. Which would you prefer?

/yes, i rtfa
//realize he's brown, too
2012-10-04 04:27:50 PM  
1 votes:
Look people, have you smelled the Grilled Cheese Truck? Have you? It could kill us all.


Nabb1: cretinbob: BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCARY

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There seems to be a pandemic of DNRTFA in here.


That has never stopped me before.
2012-10-04 04:25:09 PM  
1 votes:

Vodka Zombie: It's a shame too. There are some pretty decent food trucks in Houston.


Can't throw a rock in this town without hitting a truck full of delicious tacos.
2012-10-04 04:14:15 PM  
1 votes:
I knew it! The local taco bus is being run by Osama Bean Laden as a front for Al Queso!
2012-10-04 03:24:53 PM  
1 votes:
Why stop at food trucks? How about every restaurant and grocery store, too, in Houston.
 
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