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Pud [TotalFark]
2012-10-04 02:02:25 PM
14 votes:
Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?
2012-10-04 01:41:06 PM
10 votes:
Is there anyone without a direct financial stake in the TSA who thinks these fu*king brownshirt sh*tweasels are worth a good god damn?

Fu*k them all, the cocksuckers.
2012-10-04 01:45:00 PM
9 votes:
I like the bill that wants to take away their badges because they are not law enforcement officers.
2012-10-04 03:31:08 PM
8 votes:
C'mon, now...these guys are keeping us all safe. Why, just two weekends ago one of them read my son the riot act for having a balled up foil gum wrapper in the pocket of his shorts that set off the detector. My little boy, being thoroughly intimidated by the shorter "man" in the uniform, looked down at him and simply said, "Seriously"?

I've never been more proud.
2012-10-04 03:31:26 PM
6 votes:
Reduce the Deficit......get rid of the TSA
2012-10-04 03:31:46 PM
5 votes:
There have been more TSA screeners arrested than terrorists caught or plots foiled.

Yet, some people think it's more important to kill Big Bird versus taking a hard look at this $8 billion a year expense who regularly fails us.
2012-10-04 06:08:01 PM
4 votes:

Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?


That is actually a fairly common strategy in the fun-filled world of budding dictators. The National Socialists did it with the Brown Shirts, Stalin's Secret Police heavily recruited from otherwise dead-end groups of people. So did Mao's socialist thugs. Same in socialist Cambodia under Pol Pot.

The idea is that you take Losers and give them authority they never dreamed of, and gratitude will keep them in line and loyal.

This is one of the things that soured me on Dubya.

If TSA authority is expanded to trains, buses and random automobile traffic stops we got some real trouble brewing, folks. People high up in government with agendas (the party really doesn't matter) are angling to turn them into a Brown Shirt army.
2012-10-04 03:51:23 PM
4 votes:

zarberg: I have a relative who worked for the TSA a while ago, claims that this kinda thing happened a lot more often than you'd think. I think his anecdote went something like, "I knew a dude who would quickly pull bills out of wallets unattended for even a few seconds in those little trays, and then quietly brag about how many $20's he got at the end of his shift."

/CSB


I actually caught a biatch TSA agent lifting my iPod from out of my purse in the bin. I called her on it AS SHE WAS HOLDING IT and she gives me some spiel about "making sure it wasn't fake and hiding anything" and then put it back in the bin.

I wanted to punch her.

I would have talked to her boss but I was late since the security line was so long. I think they do that in purpose because people are in a hurry.
2012-10-04 03:44:21 PM
4 votes:

LessO2: There have been more TSA screeners arrested than terrorists caught or plots foiled.

Yet, some people think it's more important to kill Big Bird versus taking a hard look at this $8 billion a year expense who regularly fails us.


So much THIS. As many have said before in TSA threads, it's highly unlikely that terrorists are going to be able to take over a US flight ever again. Post-9/11 attempts have been met with extreme force by airline passengers and the would-be hijacker/bomber has been sucessfully foiled. Given this information, I believe that we should go back to pre-9/11 screening methods and ditch the TSA.

/It would be easier to blow up people in the security line now than to try to blow them up on the plane
2012-10-04 03:39:19 PM
4 votes:

SweetSaws: Fark: man was carrying $500 in cash


TotalFark: when people travel, particularly out of the country, smart ones get cash from their local bank where the exchange rate is better, rather than relying on foreign ATMs or airport kiosks.
2012-10-04 03:38:51 PM
4 votes:
Last Sunday I was flying through SFO, and there was a medium sized security line, about 20 minutes in total, and a guy opted out. The TSA brat sighed and snapped out "Male assist" and the man went to the side. The next guy said "so..if you opt out, you just get an extra pat down?" and she responded "Yeah, but you might have to wait a really long time." with a disgusted look on her face.

Bemused, because I never, ever go through the naked cancer machine, I waited till it was my turn and opted out, and she sighed and made a big deal of calling out "Female assist" and gave me a dirty look.

I asked her if she knew how dangerous the machines were, and she started to respond and I cut her off and said "No one does".

The lady who gave me my free molestation was perfectly pleasant and professional, as always. They put the real idiots at the front.
2012-10-04 05:37:34 PM
3 votes:

MythDragon: Frothy Panties: CSB, my ass.

So you were speeding, you got busted and you had to be an arrogant cock about it? And, an Army PFC MP is comparable to a TSA farktard?
Way to go you badass ARNG you really showed him!

Okay, the first one was a dick for pulling me over for 2mph over the speed limit. Really? 2 mph?

The second was a dick because he had no authority to pull me over in town (or he would have done it) and wanted to be Mr Cool MP and fark with me on the base, where I *wasn't* speeding.

So yeah, I was being a dick to someone who was being a dick to me. I get tagged doing 15 over on the hiway, I am polite and accept the ticket since I was clearly in the wrong.

Who lit the fuze on your tampon?


You reek of douche. Four people in this thread alone have picked up on it to the point that they felt compelled to point it out to you.

For me, it was the fact that you're so proud of being a SGT that you brought it up 3 times in a 60 word story. You have the same attitude as the PFCs you hate on. You have a little bit of power and responsability, and you think it makes you cool. That, and the fact that you told a story about being an asshole, confidant that you were coming out looking cool.
2012-10-04 03:53:51 PM
3 votes:
Sesame Street: Made possible by a grant from the Ford Foundation.

TSA: Made possible by a small government GOP President.
2012-10-04 03:47:50 PM
3 votes:
I hope that some day soon we look back on the whole TSA thing, like we do on bloodletting, and say "what the fark were they thinking?"
2012-10-04 03:43:43 PM
3 votes:
I have a relative who worked for the TSA a while ago, claims that this kinda thing happened a lot more often than you'd think. I think his anecdote went something like, "I knew a dude who would quickly pull bills out of wallets unattended for even a few seconds in those little trays, and then quietly brag about how many $20's he got at the end of his shift."

/CSB
2012-10-04 03:32:32 PM
3 votes:
Yet more evidence the US is becoming a third-world country.
2012-10-04 08:21:26 PM
2 votes:
2012-10-04 07:22:46 PM
2 votes:

bunner: Gyrfalcon: you gave them the authority

I don't recall the foot thick, ready-to-roll-a-week-after-the-airplanes-flew-into-the-World-Trade-Cen ter fascist handbook being voting enabled.


We didn't protest enough. "Silence gives assent," unfortunately in this case; ALL of us who let the "patriots" roll over us have to accept our share of the blame, sadly.
2012-10-04 06:01:11 PM
2 votes:

MythDragon: Eglin AFB. I was driving from Niceville to Fort Walton. Decided to cut across the base instead of going around. (National Guard at the time). I was probably doing 43 in a 35 zone in the city. I came up on a military owned van full of MPs. They started following me. I figured they were probably in a hurry too. Slowed down to speed limit as I approached the base property. The second my wheels passed the guard gate, the light come on.
MP: You know you where speeding?
Me: Yeah, I know.
MP: You where doing 5 over
Me: Actualy it was 8. So what?
MP: You know how I know you were speeding? (smugly) I followed you and paced your car
Me: Yes. I know. I saw you. Again, so what?
MP: You're not allowed to speed in the city.
Me: I know. Are you gonna get to the point any time soon?
MP: We have joint jurisdiction with the city. We can pull over any military, anywhere.
Me: Oh, I'm sure.
MP: You know how I knew you were military? (smugly) You had an out of state license plate, short hair, and you drove on the base
Me: That is truely some outstanding reasoning skills you've got there. They're going to promote you to detective soon, right?
MP: You might have this fast little Mustang, but it won't be going anywhere when you lose your base driving privileges.
Me: Over 1 traffic violation out in the city? Seems harsh, but whatever. You gonna give me an 'off base ticket' or whatever so I go about my way?
MP: I tell you what. I'm gonna let you go. Normaly I would give you a ticket, but we're all real tired, and just want to get off shift. But you better not let me catch you speeding again, or you're not driving on base anymore.
Me: Sure thing, Sparky. I'll be real careful.
MP to van full of MPs (which I can only imagine he said since I finaly got to leave): Hey guys! I really had that sergeant scared! I bet he'll be scared to ever go over the speed limit again!



You sound like an asshole
2012-10-04 05:09:05 PM
2 votes:

vudukungfu: >We deal with it because we have to.



No. You let it happen.
You don't deal with it at all.
You just let them take your first and fourth amendment rights because you cannot stand up and say no.
My family is all over the planet.
They know why I don't fly.
It's a matter of principle.
Pussys don't have principles.


And you never see your family or they never see you. That, or you always force THEM to subject to it, which is extra douchey. And I suspect you've never been out of the country.

I hate the TSA as much as the next person but you know what, just because I do what I have to in order to see my loved ones. My sister is having a baby in a couple months and you bet I'll be on a plane to be there for her. My personal comfort comes secondary to being a supportive sister.
2012-10-04 05:05:26 PM
2 votes:

MythDragon: Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?

[www.usag.livorno.army.mil image 600x420]

Are we still talking about TSA, or have we moved on to what happens if you give a PFC a badge and a gun?

MP: SGT, are you aware you were speeding?
Me: Really? I was doing 2 miles over the speed limit. In a 45 mph zone. So?
MP: Please step out of the car.

CSB 2:
Eglin AFB. I was driving from Niceville to Fort Walton. Decided to cut across the base instead of going around. (National Guard at the time). I was probably doing 43 in a 35 zone in the city. I came up on a military owned van full of MPs. They started following me. I figured they were probably in a hurry too. Slowed down to speed limit as I approached the base property. The second my wheels passed the guard gate, the light come on.
MP: You know you where speeding?
Me: Yeah, I know.
MP: You where doing 5 over
Me: Actualy it was 8. So what?
MP: You know how I know you were speeding? (smugly) I followed you and paced your car
Me: Yes. I know. I saw you. Again, so what?
MP: You're not allowed to speed in the city.
Me: I know. Are you gonna get to the point any time soon?
MP: We have joint jurisdiction with the city. We can pull over any military, anywhere.
Me: Oh, I'm sure.
MP: You know how I knew you were military? (smugly) You had an out of state license plate, short hair, and you drove on the base
Me: That is truely some outstanding reasoning skills you've got there. They're going to promote you to detective soon, right?
MP: You might have this fast little Mustang, but it won't be going anywhere when you lose your base driving privileges.
Me: Over 1 traffic violation out in the city? Seems harsh, but whatever. You gonna give me an 'off base ticket' or whatever so I go about my way?
MP: I tell you what. I'm gonna let you go. Normaly I would give you a tic ...


It's weird. I don't know you from Adam and to the best of my knowledge I've never met you or otherwise come in to contact with you but if I were asked I'd have to say you seem like a douche bag.
2012-10-04 04:37:57 PM
2 votes:

Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?


It's affirmative action for the otherwise unemployable.
2012-10-04 04:26:02 PM
2 votes:

MythDragon: Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?

[www.usag.livorno.army.mil image 600x420]

Are we still talking about TSA, or have we moved on to what happens if you give a PFC a badge and a gun?

MP: SGT, are you aware you were speeding?
Me: Really? I was doing 2 miles over the speed limit. In a 45 mph zone. So?
MP: Please step out of the car.

CSB 2:
Eglin AFB. I was driving from Niceville to Fort Walton. Decided to cut across the base instead of going around. (National Guard at the time). I was probably doing 43 in a 35 zone in the city. I came up on a military owned van full of MPs. They started following me. I figured they were probably in a hurry too. Slowed down to speed limit as I approached the base property. The second my wheels passed the guard gate, the light come on.
MP: You know you where speeding?
Me: Yeah, I know.
MP: You where doing 5 over
Me: Actualy it was 8. So what?
MP: You know how I know you were speeding? (smugly) I followed you and paced your car
Me: Yes. I know. I saw you. Again, so what?
MP: You're not allowed to speed in the city.
Me: I know. Are you gonna get to the point any time soon?
MP: We have joint jurisdiction with the city. We can pull over any military, anywhere.
Me: Oh, I'm sure.
MP: You know how I knew you were military? (smugly) You had an out of state license plate, short hair, and you drove on the base
Me: That is truely some outstanding reasoning skills you've got there. They're going to promote you to detective soon, right?
MP: You might have this fast little Mustang, but it won't be going anywhere when you lose your base driving privileges.
Me: Over 1 traffic violation out in the city? Seems harsh, but whatever. You gonna give me an 'off base ticket' or whatever so I go about my way?
MP: I tell you what. I'm gonna let you go. Normaly I would give you a tic ...


CSB, my ass.

So you were speeding, you got busted and you had to be an arrogant cock about it? And, an Army PFC MP is comparable to a TSA farktard?
Way to go you badass ARNG you really showed him!

/Way to go giving the NG a bad name, you douchebag.
2012-10-04 04:00:24 PM
2 votes:
Who watches TSA employees in secure areas in airports? Other TSA employees? Lawmakers should travel incognito and without special privileges through US airports. How can people who do not get TSA'd pass laws when they don't get the benefits of either a high dose of radiation or an intrusive patdown.
2012-10-04 03:54:10 PM
2 votes:

TacoBeelzebub:
/It would be easier to blow up people in the security line now than to try to blow them up on the plane


Oh great. Now we're going to have to have a line before the line.

And truthfully, I couldn't agree with you more. Terrorists have moved on from planes. They'll hit a mall or some sporting event where there are large groups of people hanging around. TSA is worthless.
2012-10-04 03:49:49 PM
2 votes:
I'm sort of glad that my wife hates the thought of flying, so at least for now, I'm not going to have to deal with any of those lying theiving pricks.......yet....

Never know when they'll be at rest areas, and stops along the interstate..
2012-10-04 03:49:48 PM
2 votes:

Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?


But enough about Congress.
2012-10-04 03:49:28 PM
2 votes:
I'd really appreciate it if there were a way that all people who encounter the TSA would be allowed to submit an evaluation form to an independent, non-profit organization so that they could lobby in Washington, D.C. for a better solution. There are no real checks and balances for these TSA uniformed apes.

Abuse of authority... how does that happen? Unpossible.
2012-10-04 03:47:49 PM
2 votes:

Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?


Well there was the Stanford Prison Experiment which might have been used as a model for the TSA.
2012-10-04 03:45:51 PM
2 votes:

what_now: Last Sunday I was flying through SFO, and there was a medium sized security line, about 20 minutes in total, and a guy opted out. The TSA brat sighed and snapped out "Male assist" and the man went to the side. The next guy said "so..if you opt out, you just get an extra pat down?" and she responded "Yeah, but you might have to wait a really long time." with a disgusted look on her face.

Bemused, because I never, ever go through the naked cancer machine, I waited till it was my turn and opted out, and she sighed and made a big deal of calling out "Female assist" and gave me a dirty look.

I asked her if she knew how dangerous the machines were, and she started to respond and I cut her off and said "No one does".

The lady who gave me my free molestation was perfectly pleasant and professional, as always. They put the real idiots at the front.


I always opt out of the free cancer dosage too, for the EXACT same reason you mentioned. There are stories about how TSA drones bypass safety features on the baggage x-ray machines because they aren't properly maintained. I can't imagine they take care of the (not approved by the FDA) RAPEiscan machines.

Lucked out traveling from DFW to ORD though, since I had to help my little kids through the metal detector. No RAPEiscan screening and no Freedom Fondle(TM) either.
2012-10-05 08:29:26 AM
1 votes:

a) Explosives fit up people's asses.

b) They could blow up the lines for the scanners with pretty much the same effect as blowing up a 'plane.

c) You're more likely to die from cancer from the scanner than from a terrorist attack.



Grow some balls, America.
2012-10-05 08:20:48 AM
1 votes:

Langdon_777: liam76: Langdon_777: poodebunker: JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does

Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?

Yes they do.
And I luved them as a Lt in MP's - the epaulets and the red beret guaranteed me (fearful) respect from everyone I met in the military (cept those Brigadier and above - I needed a better epaulet for that.)

You are joking, right?

Nope - it was really true - sadly my military career ended, when my police career found out I enjoyed the Sacred Herb.


Bummer, man. That's a bummer.
2012-10-04 10:27:25 PM
1 votes:
i172.photobucket.com
2012-10-04 09:26:54 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Permit me to reiterate.
If you fly, you are not a loyal American.
You are a pussy.
Not all of us fly.
NOT all of Americans are pussies.


Some of us have to travel across country or internationally routinely for work. I'm not a fan of 30 hour train rides, 40 hour car rides, or 2-3 day boat rides.
2012-10-04 09:26:47 PM
1 votes:
We are a nation of people who despise lies and disingenuous men and women and have created an entire culture of fishwife gossip and "gotcha!" in our earnest need to ferret out those who do so.

Unless, of course, the lies being told or the liar telling them are saying something that could benefit OUR agenda in particular. So far, that's gotten us here.
2012-10-04 09:20:09 PM
1 votes:

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Al_Ed: C'mon, now...these guys are keeping us all safe. Why, just two weekends ago one of them read my son the riot act for having a balled up foil gum wrapper in the pocket of his shorts that set off the detector. My little boy, being thoroughly intimidated by the shorter "man" in the uniform, looked down at him and simply said, "Seriously"?

I've never been more proud.

After one of these guys found an inch long pocket knife in a packed pair of shorts (good thing I buy cheap ones I don't mind losing or having to throw away) he gave me a stern lecture on how many millions of dollars the government had to spend finding such miniature knives. It did not have the desired effect.


\Especially since that was the return leg of my trip.
\\And on unpacking from my previous six trips I discovered I'd done the same thing.
2012-10-04 08:38:00 PM
1 votes:

HectorSchwartz: unlikely: Having been caught at it like eight times now, they finally admit it.

At least they keep the skies safe. Just look at all the terrorists they've stopped.

Sho Nuff
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 600x512]


That's how it's done.
Teach the young that they have no rights.
2012-10-04 08:14:33 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Having been caught at it like eight times now, they finally admit it.

At least they keep the skies safe. Just look at all the terrorists they've stopped.


Sho Nuff
1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-10-04 07:55:25 PM
1 votes:
Can we fine TSA employees for bad attitudes?
2012-10-04 07:39:12 PM
1 votes:

bunner: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: LOL! Well, it DOES give me a lot of time to think about stuff. That's one of the problems with our country today: everyone's working so many hours, commuting, worrying about bills, staring in psychic exhaustion at the Tube, listening to Republocrat/Demoblican blowholes telling them what to think, etc. that they never have time to notice that the shirt is being stolen off their backs and that their hands and feet are slowly being tied up.

That's sort of the idea. We call it "the way things are". And we're damned proud to piss our lives up a rope chasing that 5 B/R, 2.5 BA Cape Cod while they do it.


That may be the problem.

I remember a quote from one of Bruce Sterling's books:

"WORKERS OF THE WORLD, RELAX!"

Seriously, we are headed towards a crisis in work and self-identification. Most people identify themselves and stroke their self-worth by what they DO. We are entering a technological period where robotic advances and economy of scale automation will create a situation where there will simply not be enough REQUIRED work to keep people busy. It will make the upsets at the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution look like a picnic.
2012-10-04 07:27:01 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: bunner: Gyrfalcon: you gave them the authority

I don't recall the foot thick, ready-to-roll-a-week-after-the-airplanes-flew-into-the-World-Trade-Cen ter fascist handbook being voting enabled.

We didn't protest enough. "Silence gives assent," unfortunately in this case; ALL of us who let the "patriots" roll over us have to accept our share of the blame, sadly.


You're a little premature. The Reichstag is in ashes but you have to wait for the full Fascisti Fandango and the atrocities to begin. Then we go to war. THEN wait 10 years, blame the sheep AND the wolves. Keep up. : )
2012-10-04 07:04:28 PM
1 votes:

amoral: MythDragon: Frothy Panties: CSB, my ass.

So you were speeding, you got busted and you had to be an arrogant cock about it? And, an Army PFC MP is comparable to a TSA farktard?
Way to go you badass ARNG you really showed him!

Okay, the first one was a dick for pulling me over for 2mph over the speed limit. Really? 2 mph?

The second was a dick because he had no authority to pull me over in town (or he would have done it) and wanted to be Mr Cool MP and fark with me on the base, where I *wasn't* speeding.

So yeah, I was being a dick to someone who was being a dick to me. I get tagged doing 15 over on the hiway, I am polite and accept the ticket since I was clearly in the wrong.

Who lit the fuze on your tampon?

You reek of douche. Four people in this thread alone have picked up on it to the point that they felt compelled to point it out to you.

For me, it was the fact that you're so proud of being a SGT that you brought it up 3 times in a 60 word story. You have the same attitude as the PFCs you hate on. You have a little bit of power and responsability, and you think it makes you cool. That, and the fact that you told a story about being an asshole, confidant that you were coming out looking cool.


Lmfao all this reeks of is that youre an MP and got the lowest ASVAB score allowable to be in the air force, and got the job that came along with it, and finally figured it out. Or your 19 y/o kid is an MP and gave you stories of grandeur and you probably tell everyone about it on your blog.

Having been through similar situations as the Eglin AFB storyteller, i can at least relate and not immediately jump to conclusions and cry about it on the internet. Hell, just 3 weeks ago, i was in Robins AFB, GA, and, while riding shotgun through the gate from that rocking BBQ place across the tracks, and I had a 2 striper knock on my window, to tell me, to tell the driver, to tell the guy in the backseat, to buckle his seatbelt. Sure, the idiot in the backseat shoulda had his belt on... but It was just another "lol wait what?" type of moment. The TSgt in the back was like. ... "you can tell me to buckle my belt, its ok..." It just forces us to really wonder how the seemingly stupidest of the group get given the authority due to position, rather than rank, and as from Eglin AFB, see it abused, or in my case wonder why he wants to jump through hoops about it, and as a whole,make fun of it
2012-10-04 07:03:36 PM
1 votes:

SurelyShirley: FTFA: "...with the TSA agent admitting the theft was a punishment for the man's lack of obedience."

Who the fark do these people think they are?


They're the people who can stop you from traveling, cause you to miss your connecting flights, potentially ruin your life by claiming they saw a weapon in your luggage, and you gave them the authority because 9/11, that's who.
2012-10-04 06:49:55 PM
1 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:
If TSA authority is expanded to trains, buses and random automobile traffic stops we got some real trouble brewing, folks. People high up in government with agendas (the party really doesn't matter) are angling to turn them into a Brown Shirt army.


TSA agents on trains and highways? No way that will ever happen.
2012-10-04 06:42:55 PM
1 votes:

TacoBeelzebub: LessO2: There have been more TSA screeners arrested than terrorists caught or plots foiled.

Yet, some people think it's more important to kill Big Bird versus taking a hard look at this $8 billion a year expense who regularly fails us.

So much THIS. As many have said before in TSA threads, it's highly unlikely that terrorists are going to be able to take over a US flight ever again. Post-9/11 attempts have been met with extreme force by airline passengers and the would-be hijacker/bomber has been sucessfully foiled. Given this information, I believe that we should go back to pre-9/11 screening methods and ditch the TSA.

/It would be easier to blow up people in the security line now than to try to blow them up on the plane


Exactly.

Pre-9/11, the standard rule in airline hijackings was to NOT resist, just go along with it and you'll be okay. Hijackings up to that point were for ransoms, or were people wanting to make a political statement, or to defect to a country they couldn't normally enter. The idea of using the plane itself as a missile was not seen as an option.

As of mid-day, September 11, 2001, that is going to be the first thing on anybodies mind if their airliner get hijacked. Nobody is going to expect to make it off alive unless they fight back. Even if you smuggle a gun aboard. . .you'll run out of bullets before you run out of passengers giving you a beat-down.

As you said, the easier target would be the security line itself, or ala 12 Monkeys, a biological weapon disbursed at the terminal of a major international airport, and by the time anybody realized anything the contagion could be in cities around the world.

It would be more practical, cheaper, and effective to go back to pre 9/11 screening and security, disband the TSA and let the blueshirts return to their jobs at Mal-Wart and gas stations across the country, step up the Federal Air Marshal and Federal Flight Deck Officer programs, and make it clear to passengers that in the event of a terrorist hijacking. . .resist.
2012-10-04 06:28:40 PM
1 votes:

bunner: cc_rider: Rye_: Prison Planet!

Via Iranian state news, no less. Wasn't there any good Onion stories for them to promote, this week?

So, when FOX picks it up and sides with the pedothieves, will it be credible then?


We have already seen much evidence which shows that many TSA agents are thieves. There is no need for trollmitter to promote crap media to further support this notion.
2012-10-04 06:22:46 PM
1 votes:

semiotix: What kind of joke-ass SEO, link-bait, and/or content aggregator spam malarkey is going on here?


pressTV is an iranian news site, needless to say, they don't have on location reporters in the US
2012-10-04 06:14:14 PM
1 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?

That is actually a fairly common strategy in the fun-filled world of budding dictators. The National Socialists did it with the Brown Shirts, Stalin's Secret Police heavily recruited from otherwise dead-end groups of people. So did Mao's socialist thugs. Same in socialist Cambodia under Pol Pot.

The idea is that you take Losers and give them authority they never dreamed of, and gratitude will keep them in line and loyal.

This is one of the things that soured me on Dubya.

If TSA authority is expanded to trains, buses and random automobile traffic stops we got some real trouble brewing, folks. People high up in government with agendas (the party really doesn't matter) are angling to turn them into a Brown Shirt army.


Apparently, homelessness gives one a very lucid and broad scope view of the cyclical nature of history. You want to make a difference, this Nov? Vote for this guy.
2012-10-04 05:58:05 PM
1 votes:

Rye_: Prison Planet!


Via Iranian state news, no less. Wasn't there any good Onion stories for them to promote, this week?
2012-10-04 05:56:33 PM
1 votes:
img.timeinc.net

"I'm the LAW, so don't give me any lip or I'll take your lunch money, twerp!
You looking at me? YOU LOOKING AT ME?"


Anybody feel safer, yet?

Anybody fed up with having their 7 year old kid's snoochie felt up by some fat, sweaty pig while their iPad gets boosted?

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. The only way to kill a leviathan is to starve it. Or are the airlines too big to fail, too?
2012-10-04 05:44:36 PM
1 votes:
I am in no way a fan of the TSA but an article that cites Prison Planet isn't exactly a credible source.
2012-10-04 05:42:16 PM
1 votes:
I'm not one to defend the TSA, but that article was heavy on the Prison Planet, and light on the verifiable facts.
2012-10-04 05:40:34 PM
1 votes:
I like the way that now with the new nude-o-scope machines, they want EVERYTHING out of your pockets, including your wallet. That's right, just stick it in your bag and let it ride out of sight through this machine where you can't see it while you're stuck in a little box making moose antlers with your hands. It's very important your wallet not be with you. You know, for safety.
2012-10-04 05:13:12 PM
1 votes:

fnordfocus: vudukungfu: Permit me to reiterate.
If you fly, you are not a loyal American.
You are a pussy.
Not all of us fly.
NOT all of Americans are pussies.

I thought you were retired law enforcement. Don't you guys get to bypass security anyway?


Oh, that explains why he's such a bitter person.
2012-10-04 05:12:44 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Permit me to reiterate.
If you fly, you are not a loyal American.
You are a pussy.
Not all of us fly.
NOT all of Americans are pussies.


I thought you were retired law enforcement. Don't you guys get to bypass security anyway?
2012-10-04 05:06:46 PM
1 votes:

mark12A: I also have never gone through the scanner, always opting out. I like to wear loose pants, so when I take the belt off, the moment they start pawing at my pants, they fall down. Always gets a laugh...

/then waves hand, "these aren't the 'nads you're looking for..."
//don't know what I'll do next time I go to Britain. They don't let you opt out. farkin' Nanny State


May 2012.
"Controversial 'naked' body scanners could be introduced at all UK airports after top scientists declared them safe. Manchester Airport has been trialling the device - known as back scatter scanner - since 2009. passengers were the given the right to choose an alternative method of screening."

Sept 2012
"Controversial 'naked' airport body scanners to be scrapped after failing to receive European approval."
2012-10-04 04:51:56 PM
1 votes:

inner ted: what_now: Last Sunday I was flying through SFO, and there was a medium sized security line, about 20 minutes in total, and a guy opted out. The TSA brat sighed and snapped out "Male assist" and the man went to the side. The next guy said "so..if you opt out, you just get an extra pat down?" and she responded "Yeah, but you might have to wait a really long time." with a disgusted look on her face.

Bemused, because I never, ever go through the naked cancer machine, I waited till it was my turn and opted out, and she sighed and made a big deal of calling out "Female assist" and gave me a dirty look.

I asked her if she knew how dangerous the machines were, and she started to respond and I cut her off and said "No one does".

The lady who gave me my free molestation was perfectly pleasant and professional, as always. They put the real idiots at the front.

b-b-b-but i've been assured that my tinfoil hat is too snug for thinking that our illustrious government would do anything that may put the population at risk.

those machines don't spew toxic radiation, they shoot happy beams & freedoms

duh


No, they spew cash -- right into the pockets of whomever owns/rents the relevant senators.
2012-10-04 04:50:23 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: /// cant wait till my doctor is run by the same terrorists that run TSA


Then you may be waiting a long time...

/unless you get medical care through a VA hospital
2012-10-04 04:44:10 PM
1 votes:
Fu*k the TSA, and anyone who supports it.
2012-10-04 04:40:52 PM
1 votes:

special20: offacue: That's the second time today I read drawer spelled as draw. Is this a thing?

It's a Jersey New England thing.


Having lived in Jersey half my life, you're wrong.

// knew a girl who thought a rolling storage unit was actually called a "draw", and that "drawer" was a synonym for "artist"
// not nearly hot enough to fantasize about, so I hope she's got a great sense of humor, and can hold her breath for a while...
2012-10-04 04:36:34 PM
1 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com

"I told them Republicans are for SMALL government... heh heh heh..."
2012-10-04 04:34:34 PM
1 votes:
I don't know what they get paid now, but in 2005 at Dulkles International Airport, one of the busiest in the country, TSA Screeners started at $10.00 per hour. Yup, $20,000 a year in Northern Virginia. And people wonder why they hire morons. You get what you pay for.
2012-10-04 04:26:23 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Permit me to reiterate.
If you fly, you are not a loyal American.
You are a pussy.
Not all of us fly.
NOT all of Americans are pussies.


Oh give it a rest, dude. Obvious troll is obvious. Some of us live two thousand miles from our parents and can only get a few days off work at a time. We deal with it because we have to.
2012-10-04 04:10:55 PM
1 votes:
For lots of stupid reasons - I once ended up flying with 9k in cash stuffed in my bag.

I kid you not - but a TSA agent (after the security checkpoint, at the boarding gate) said he was going to be doing random searches as we boarded the plane. Some of us were asked to step aside and let them check our carry-on bags (again).

I'm also not joking when I say I got pulled aside. I was totally expecting to be detained and questioned or something; but oddly enough, the money tucked in my bag, rolled up in a pair of jeans, went undetected.

It took my about an hour after boarding the plane to go 'OH CRAP! DID THEY TAKE MY MONEY!?!??!'
But they hadn't!
2012-10-04 04:07:05 PM
1 votes:
Well, you farking pussies, I hope you are enjoying the pussification of your nation.
You're covered in security bukaki and can't stand up for your hard won and very own rights.
You lost, America.
And this is what you get.
You get uneducated thieves in polyester uniforms groping your junk and stealing your shait.
Not even white color crime.
You asked for it by not saying What thte FARK the first time it was suggested and now that you've had a taste, they are going to ram it up your asses for the rest of your lives.
Farking pussies.
Enjoy your flight.
2012-10-04 04:06:36 PM
1 votes:

semiotix: What kind of joke-ass SEO, link-bait, and/or content aggregator spam malarkey is going on here?


They're called "sources." They just neglected to add the links.

Google any one of them, such as the wired.com quote, and you'll see that they are direct quotes from the sources being cited.
2012-10-04 04:06:02 PM
1 votes:

zarberg: Carousel Beast: Spanky_McFarksalot: Thankss Obama for your HUGE government expansion that is the TSA...this would never happen if small governement boot strappy republicans were in charge!

/what? If Rmoney can lie so can I

Yep. It's absolutely Bush's fault that 4 years later nothing has been done about the TSA.

So you're saying the Republican house would have welcomed an Obama administration proposal to abolish the TSA with open arms?


You seem to suggest that Obama cares about civil liberties enough to want to abolish the TSA. He has been the worst President to date on civil liberties. So much so that his interpretations of laws on the books are unknown. He loves his secrecy regime and hides behind it at every chance.

I think Obama very much likes the TSA, It isn't like he has to go through their gates.
2012-10-04 04:00:31 PM
1 votes:
Okay, being Fark we can all agree that the TSA front liners are a bunch of idiots in general, but did nobody notice they were reading a PressTV article, as in the propaganda mouthpiece of the Iranian mullahs?

Excuse me if I treat their stories with even less credibility than WND or a PrisonPlanet post.

Does anyone have a reputable source for the actual story that doesn't need to be taken with a bag of rock salt? Thanks in advance...
2012-10-04 03:59:01 PM
1 votes:

MythDragon: Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?

[www.usag.livorno.army.mil image 600x420]

Are we still talking about TSA, or have we moved on to what happens if you give a PFC a badge and a gun?.


For a moment, I read PFC but my brain interpreted it as PMC.
2012-10-04 03:56:21 PM
1 votes:

LarryDan43: Pud: Who would ever have thought that taking people from the lowest rung in the ladder of life, giving them complete power over other people while removing any accountability would have lead to something like this?

But enough about Congress.


Congress is for people who can't pass the TSA written exam.
2012-10-04 03:53:43 PM
1 votes:

semiotix: After first denying to police that he had stolen the money, Irwin later admitted he had put the cash in his locker as a form of punishment in retaliation for the man complaining over his treatment. Prison Planet

FACTS & FIGURES

Last month, a TSA screener admitted to a woman traveling through Houston Airport that she was prevented from boarding her flight for retaliatory reasons as punishment for a bad attitude rather than any genuine security threat, after the woman refused to allow TSA agents to test her drink for explosives. Prison Planet

The TSA, in October 2010, directed the use of the scanners, sometimes known as advanced imaging technology, which some critics fear could emit too much radiation. Reuters

In addition, the TSA authorized enhanced pat-downs, which could include the touching of genitals, buttocks and breasts, for passengers unwilling to go through the scanners. Passengers who rejected both procedures would not be allowed to fly. Reuters

Critics maintain the scanners, which use radiation to peer through clothes, are threats to Americans' privacy and health. wired.com

The effectiveness of pat-downs does not matter very much, because the obvious goal of the TSA is to make the pat-down embarrassing enough for the average passenger that the vast majority of people will choose high-tech humiliation. The Atlantic 

What kind of joke-ass SEO, link-bait, and/or content aggregator spam malarkey is going on here?


"The Atlantic" is going to be a new inside joke, like The Aristocrats, now.
2012-10-04 03:51:53 PM
1 votes:
After first denying to police that he had stolen the money, Irwin later admitted he had put the cash in his locker as a form of punishment in retaliation for the man complaining over his treatment. Prison Planet

FACTS & FIGURES

Last month, a TSA screener admitted to a woman traveling through Houston Airport that she was prevented from boarding her flight for retaliatory reasons as punishment for a bad attitude rather than any genuine security threat, after the woman refused to allow TSA agents to test her drink for explosives.
Prison Planet

The TSA, in October 2010, directed the use of the scanners, sometimes known as advanced imaging technology, which some critics fear could emit too much radiation. Reuters

In addition, the TSA authorized enhanced pat-downs, which could include the touching of genitals, buttocks and breasts, for passengers unwilling to go through the scanners. Passengers who rejected both procedures would not be allowed to fly. Reuters

Critics maintain the scanners, which use radiation to peer through clothes, are threats to Americans' privacy and health. wired.com

The effectiveness of pat-downs does not matter very much, because the obvious goal of the TSA is to make the pat-down embarrassing enough for the average passenger that the vast majority of people will choose high-tech humiliation. The Atlantic 

What kind of joke-ass SEO, link-bait, and/or content aggregator spam malarkey is going on here?
2012-10-04 03:51:27 PM
1 votes:

offacue: That's the second time today I read drawer spelled as draw. Is this a thing?


The problem with people using "spellcheck" instead of proofreading.
"DERP. Everything is spelt correctly, therefore, there is no need to actually re-read what I wrote. DERP!!"
2012-10-04 03:46:33 PM
1 votes:
Is there a source for this that didn't come from an Alex Jones website?
2012-10-04 03:43:18 PM
1 votes:
Thankss Obama for your HUGE government expansion that is the TSA...this would never happen if small governement boot strappy republicans were in charge!

/what? If Rmoney can lie so can I
2012-10-04 03:36:45 PM
1 votes:
The man placed $520 in cash in a gray plastic bin before accompanying the TSA agents to the private room. When he returned, the money was gone, with Irwin having hidden it in a TSA supervisor's draw.

You know, I want to believe this article and get outraged, but I don't trust things written by Boston-area retards who don't realize how the everyday words they're using are correctly spelled.
2012-10-04 03:36:39 PM
1 votes:
That's the second time today I read drawer spelled as draw. Is this a thing?
2012-10-04 03:36:32 PM
1 votes:

cloud_van_dame: Yet more evidence the US is becoming a third-world country.


That would be having really good street food with horrifying repercussions of the bathroom kind, but ok.
2012-10-04 03:36:17 PM
1 votes:

Citrate1007: Reduce the Deficit......get rid of the TSA


have an independent agency do security tests of airports.
when the tester gets through with "illegal" stuff:
1) shut down the airport for 24 hours while it is being thoroughly searched
2) fire the weak link

or stop pretending that it is really security already
2012-10-04 03:32:09 PM
1 votes:
2012-10-04 03:10:07 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Having been caught at it like eight times now, they finally admit it.

At least they keep the skies safe. Just look at all the terrorists they've stopped.


unlikely, I want to buy your rock.
2012-10-04 02:05:05 PM
1 votes:
The real question is, does this shiat stop once some dipshiat TSA agent gets an "attitude shiv" or does it just get worse?
2012-10-04 01:34:49 PM
1 votes:
TSA: Robbing travelers of their dignity and valuables since 2002
2012-10-04 03:40:43 AM
1 votes:
Why did he put the cash in one of those bins? I'm assuming the guy did not have five hundred bucks worth of quarters. Just to be clear, I'm in no way defending or apologizing for the TSA. Screw them and anyone dumb enough to think they make us safer.
 
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