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2012-10-04 11:35:10 PM  

JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does


Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?
 
2012-10-04 11:38:17 PM  

dustygrimp: vudukungfu: No. You let it happen.
You don't deal with it at all.
You just let them take your first and fourth amendment rights because you cannot stand up and say no.
My family is all over the planet.
They know why I don't fly.
It's a matter of principle.
Pussys don't have principles.

Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you...


AAaaaaahhhhhhhh roflmao!
 
2012-10-04 11:47:30 PM  

mark12A: "Controversial 'naked' airport body scanners to be scrapped after failing to receive European approval."

That only applies to the x-ray based scanners. They'll still force you through the millimeter wave based scanners. You get nuked like a Burrito...


Ooohh free tanning booth huh?
 
2012-10-04 11:55:18 PM  

turbidum: I don't trust things written by Boston-area retards who don't realize how the everyday words they're using are correctly spelled.


Sounds like you need to eat more bananers

/ after you pahk ya cah in havahd yahd
// serioiusly, wtf is their problem with the letter 'r'?
 
2012-10-05 12:12:07 AM  
So - - Last time I went to the airport and they wanted to "scan" me... I (truthfully) told the "agent" that I have had already exceeded my recommended x-ray dose as I had 16 head CT scans in the last 24 months and other x-rays photographs taken. I really didn't want to be scanned.. but inside I knew it would not make much of a difference.... I also had carry on baggage that to the chagrin of the airline couldn't legally be counted as "carry on baggage"... The agent looked at me sadly... ans said "Oh, okay..." then swabbed a few of my things and waved a wand all around my body and that was it. First time actually a TSA agent was really nice to me. (That was actually one out of five,) Unfortunately I then proceeded to pick up my "bag" without making sure it was zippered closed and a few bottles of meds went bouncing across the floor. Three agents skittering for bottles of pills and CPAP parts.... almost priceless.
 
2012-10-05 12:13:09 AM  

Loren: adeist69: Don't worry TSA agents, when the Zombie Apocalypse™ comes and you're bitten I'll be blowing your heads off for potentially becoming a zombie, not in retaliation.

*snert*

Why? TSA agents are immune to becoming zombies.

mark12A: "Controversial 'naked' airport body scanners to be scrapped after failing to receive European approval."

That only applies to the x-ray based scanners. They'll still force you through the millimeter wave based scanners. You get nuked like a Burrito...

Millimeter wave won't fry you.

JWideman: I'm not one to defend the TSA, but that article was heavy on the Prison Planet, and light on the verifiable facts.

Agreed. The outrages of the TSA are well known but I see no reason to think this one was real.

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: If TSA authority is expanded to trains, buses and random automobile traffic stops we got some real trouble brewing, folks. People high up in government with agendas (the party really doesn't matter) are angling to turn them into a Brown Shirt army.

I disagree. I think this is a case of ignorance of history, not malice.

They like having a way around the 4th to hunt for drug couriers, they don't think of the consequences.

DaCaptain19: If the TSA is government sponsored and subsidized? It should end, now.

I asked a TSA agent once how they decide whom to send to the "little room" for extra attention. His answer? "Random".

Now considering this is true or even 80% true, can you think of one, single WORSE way to identify a potential threat?

That's like me having 1,000 pennies, and one is extremely valuable, so I toss all the pennies in a bucket and take one out without looking...then throwing the other 999 away. Good luck on it being the "valuable" penny.

Now multiply the 1,000 by 100 - and keep the other number as 1. THAT...supposedly...is the TSA. A "theatre of safety".

Unfortunately, random is the right approach. While it's terribly ineffective profiling is worse. If we profile the bad gu ...


Is it? Seems to be working just fine for the Israelis. However, I WILL say that simple physical/ethnic profiling will certainly NOT work. Religion knows no barriers regarding race or sex. Why yes, a 78 year old grandmother might, in fact, have a suicide vest.
 
2012-10-05 12:32:48 AM  
My experience:

TSA lady sees I have a bottle of water wrapped in a plastic bag in my suitcase. Has me walk back through the metal detector to empty it in a garbage can, then run the empty bottle back through the Xray machine again AND let another agent look inside the empty plastic bag.
 
2012-10-05 12:39:00 AM  

SurelyShirley: FTFA: "...with the TSA agent admitting the theft was a punishment for the man's lack of obedience."

Who the fark do these people think they are?


Your mistake, thinking they are "people".
Actually, the worst sort of whores.
Lead you to their area and roll ya.

/no BJ for you
 
2012-10-05 12:40:03 AM  

BizarroHulk: My experience:

TSA lady sees I have a bottle of water wrapped in a plastic bag in my suitcase. Has me walk back through the metal detector to empty it in a garbage can, then run the empty bottle back through the Xray machine again AND let another agent look inside the empty plastic bag.


Yup, no WMDs there.
Fer sure, yup.
 
2012-10-05 03:04:55 AM  

SweetSaws: Fark: man was carrying $500 in cash


Yeah...a buddy of mine was coming back from an industry trade show with thousands of bucks worth of checks, and about $750 in cash. Guess which didn't make it past TSA after he was separated from his stuff for a "personal screening".

He thought he was going to get fired, but his boss told him it wasn't the first time :(

Basically, the company didn't file a complaint, because they were concerned about getting ALL their people "profiled".
 
2012-10-05 06:14:38 AM  

poodebunker: JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does

Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?


Yes they do.

And I luved them as a Lt in MP's - the epaulets and the red beret guaranteed me (fearful) respect from everyone I met in the military (cept those Brigadier and above - I needed a better epaulet for that.)
 
2012-10-05 07:36:09 AM  

Langdon_777: poodebunker: JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does

Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?

Yes they do.
And I luved them as a Lt in MP's - the epaulets and the red beret guaranteed me (fearful) respect from everyone I met in the military (cept those Brigadier and above - I needed a better epaulet for that.)


You are joking, right?
 
2012-10-05 07:43:20 AM  
but *herp* a *derp* derp derp. i mean it keeps us safe.
 
2012-10-05 08:02:16 AM  
Someone needs to come up w/ functional (and decent looking) lockable wallets / purses. Since the items
go through the xray scanner anyway, TSA can't biatch.
 
2012-10-05 08:09:38 AM  

liam76: Langdon_777: poodebunker: JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does

Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?

Yes they do.
And I luved them as a Lt in MP's - the epaulets and the red beret guaranteed me (fearful) respect from everyone I met in the military (cept those Brigadier and above - I needed a better epaulet for that.)

You are joking, right?


Nope - it was really true - sadly my military career ended, when my police career found out I enjoyed the Sacred Herb.
 
2012-10-05 08:19:43 AM  
Don`t you just love living in the land of the free?
 
2012-10-05 08:20:48 AM  

Langdon_777: liam76: Langdon_777: poodebunker: JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does

Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?

Yes they do.
And I luved them as a Lt in MP's - the epaulets and the red beret guaranteed me (fearful) respect from everyone I met in the military (cept those Brigadier and above - I needed a better epaulet for that.)

You are joking, right?

Nope - it was really true - sadly my military career ended, when my police career found out I enjoyed the Sacred Herb.


Bummer, man. That's a bummer.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:13 AM  

namatad: Citrate1007: Reduce the Deficit......get rid of the TSA

have an independent agency do security tests of airports.
when the tester gets through with "illegal" stuff:
1) shut down the airport for 24 hours while it is being thoroughly searched
2) fire the weak link

or stop pretending that it is really security already


90% of the population believes they're doing a good job. If they weren't there there's be planes blowing up on a daily basis.
 
2012-10-05 08:29:26 AM  

a) Explosives fit up people's asses.

b) They could blow up the lines for the scanners with pretty much the same effect as blowing up a 'plane.

c) You're more likely to die from cancer from the scanner than from a terrorist attack.



Grow some balls, America.
 
2012-10-05 08:34:02 AM  
americoonts obviously love the way they're treated
they keep voting in idiots who give absolute support to the tsa
 
2012-10-05 09:29:01 AM  

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2012-10-04 04:58:37 PM

OnlyM3: cant wait till my doctor is run by the same terrorists that run TSA

At least the TSA just makes you walk through a detector.

No, that was during the bush years.

Thanks to obama, we now have to be have our genitals groped and children stripped.
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2012-10-05 09:39:04 AM  

vudukungfu: >We deal with it because we have to.



No. You let it happen.
You don't deal with it at all.
You just let them take your first and fourth amendment rights because you cannot stand up and say no.
My family is all over the planet.
They know why I don't fly.
It's a matter of principle.
Pussys don't have principles.


What a toolbag. Thanks for being tough enough to carry us pussies along, Rambo.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:58 AM  

ransack.: Langdon_777: liam76: Langdon_777: poodebunker: JohnCarter: But but but ....they have blue shirts....WITH real epaulets...and a shiny gold badge. We MUST show them respect.

Did I mention they have epaulets? If that doesn't scream authority and competence, then nothing does

Excuse my lack of understanding french, but...wtf is an epaulets? Does it look cool?

Yes they do.
And I luved them as a Lt in MP's - the epaulets and the red beret guaranteed me (fearful) respect from everyone I met in the military (cept those Brigadier and above - I needed a better epaulet for that.)

You are joking, right?

Nope - it was really true - sadly my military career ended, when my police career found out I enjoyed the Sacred Herb.

Bummer, man. That's a bummer.


*sigh*

Yes it was :(

A long time ago, but damn I was good at it - ran off from the Army after the shiat with the Police (it started with me having a nitrous oxide cylinder in the academy - not that that was illegal (at the time)), two years later i got a one sentence letter "Would you like to go on the inactive list?" - my two word reply was "Yes please." (I suspect I am still on it :D invade Australia and you will have to deal with me, and I am lazy, so it will be over fast... :)
 
2012-10-05 12:14:41 PM  

vento: TacoBeelzebub:
/It would be easier to blow up people in the security line now than to try to blow them up on the plane

Oh great. Now we're going to have to have a line before the line.

And truthfully, I couldn't agree with you more. Terrorists have moved on from planes. They'll hit a mall or some sporting event where there are large groups of people hanging around. TSA is worthless.


Terrorists will just start hitting other locations that are crowded. Porn shops, crack houses, titty bars, and gang bangs. You know, entertainment venues!
--Carlin, on this subject before the TSA even existed
 
2012-10-05 12:21:48 PM  

Mstreemn: /in Shanghai China, I and all my fellow travelers had our bags searched 3 times in order to board the plane but I don't remember any body scan...but the subway stations all had scanners, most of the time they weren't even turned on or the scanner person wasn't even looking at the screen as you shuffled through it.  oddly I felt safer in China most of the time...


Yup. Many years ago I ran into a luggage scanner at a train station. Oops--I had film in my bag (tells you how long ago it was!) so I looked around for the human to hand inspect the film. No human. I decided to carry the bag around the scanner and figured the human would show up. They didn't.

Even when the scanners are manned they don't do much, though--my wife tripped the nuke scanners in the Shanghai airport twice. The first time she quickly resolved it simply by talking to the people manning the scanner. Never mind that she forgot the card from the lab that explained why she was hot, never mind that they did absolutely nothing to figure out if it was her or something she was carrying or her baggage that tripped the scanner. (On the other hand she had passed through two US airports while 4x and 8x hotter, no alarms at all.)

digitalrain: Someone needs to come up w/ functional (and decent looking) lockable wallets / purses. Since the items
go through the xray scanner anyway, TSA can't biatch.


It's called putting it in your carryon and locking your carryon.
 
2012-10-05 02:59:31 PM  

MythDragon: Frothy Panties: CSB, my ass.

So you were speeding, you got busted and you had to be an arrogant cock about it? And, an Army PFC MP is comparable to a TSA farktard?
Way to go you badass ARNG you really showed him!

Okay, the first one was a dick for pulling me over for 2mph over the speed limit. Really? 2 mph?

The second was a dick because he had no authority to pull me over in town (or he would have done it) and wanted to be Mr Cool MP and fark with me on the base, where I *wasn't* speeding.

So yeah, I was being a dick to someone who was being a dick to me. I get tagged doing 15 over on the hiway, I am polite and accept the ticket since I was clearly in the wrong.

Who lit the fuze on your tampon?


You Sir, have been farkied as having Awesome Snark!
 
2012-10-05 05:45:27 PM  

Dr Dreidel: special20: offacue: That's the second time today I read drawer spelled as draw. Is this a thing?

It's a Jersey New England thing.

Having lived in Jersey half my life, you're wrong.


I have in-laws, and several friends that originate from New Jersey - and those folks all say "draw" when referring to a drawer.

You probably can't hear it yourself locally, and are only able to identify the very thick New England vernacular. Does that make sense?

/it's probably a Yankee thing
//southerners call it "droor"
///meditate on that
 
2012-10-06 10:41:59 AM  
Well, since we're sharing MP stories.

My jerkass MP story:

My unit was at a well-known major US Army post for weapon qualification. I was on ammo detail, which meant basically that I was guarding the big truck with thousands of rounds of ammo in it. It was a pretty lousy detail, to be honest, because it meant sitting out in an empty lot in a barren part of the base with one other guy and guarding the truck from about 1700 until 0800 the next day. The idea of guarding in shifts or of any kind of relief for the guards had eluded my superiors. So had the idea of giving us any food for this 15 hour shift.

Well, a couple hours into this detail, in a big empty area surrounded by berms and guardtowers and chain link fences topped with razor wire, an MP car comes by. A MP SGT gets out.

Me: Good afternoon. What can I do for you?
MP: This isn't authorized to be here, it has to go NOW.
Me: Pardon me. I am on ammo detail with $UNIT and was assigned by MAJ $NAME to guard this. This is the storage area for ammunition, correct? (As I gesture over to the sign that says "Ammo Holding Area")
MP: You didn't hear me. This area is not authorized for the storage of ammunition, you will have to move that truck NOW. Get in there, and take that vehicle out of the area IMMEDIATELY!
Me: I don't have a driver's license for that vehicle, have direct orders from a Field-Grade Officer to guard it at this site, and have no idea where to take it besides here to guard it. I will have to radio my unit to get further instructions.
MP: *scowls* Do it fast, I want this truck out of here IMMEDIATELY. This is NOT AUTHORIZED.
Me: *Gets in Humvee, gets on radio, explains what has happened to my unit, gets a reply*
Me: Chief $OtherGuy will be here soon, he's our Property Book Officer, he's the one signed for all this equipment.
MP: *scowls, stands there tensely, eyeballing me like I'm a suspect or a potential terrorist, hand hovering near his sidearm*
*Long awkward wait about 10 minutes with us just standing there, not saying a word*
*Chief Warrant Officer shows up in a GSA van, gets out*
MP: Good afternoon, Sir! Sir, this area is not authorized for storage of AAE (Arms Ammunition and Explosives), could you please move it over to the ranges as soon as possible?
*MP and PBO have short conversation about how this is the listed and marked storage area for ammo*
*MP has a polite, apologetic tone with the CWO, explains how for some bureaucratic reason due to budget cuts the ammo holding area is no longer certified to store ammo, suggests we take the ammo truck directly to the range*
PBO: *gets on radio, calls for a driver for the truck*
*MP is exceedingly nice as somebody comes, drives the truck off, and we go to guard it at another place*

Basically he was a dick with me because I was junior enlisted, but as soon as an Officer showed up, he got polite, friendly, and courteous.
 
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