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2012-10-04 12:17:48 PM  
23 votes:

Needsun: I think the mental midgets have, once again, missed the point.
PBS is a commercially viable product capable of supporting itself
and showing a profit on the bottom line. Why are they collecting
welfare from the feral gub'amint (aka taxpayers)? Oh, it's ONLY
.0012%! The amount of support isn't relevant, the fact they're
being supported at all is the issue. Don't worry tho - your food
stamp president will come to the rescue.


No it isn't. You're making the same mistake the people focusing on Big Bird are, in conflating some successful studios who produce content for the PBS market with PBS. However, unlike those people, you're wrong on additional levels, because the removal of PBS would in fact destroy the product those studios make. In your invisible free hand capitalist utopia they would be forced to accept creative 'input' from the stations, modify content to fit advertisers, and eventually turn into the exact kind of toyetic crap that makes them and their ability to avoid that by being on PBS a breath of fresh air compared to the content available on the other stations. In short, you are a whore's john shilling for pimps, and should very much go fark yourself with a bag of burning cocks, you sulpherous whoreson.

And I mean that with all due honesty and intent. Anyone who goes after PBS deserves their world of reality TV and Paris Hilton, but I do not personally want to have to live in it as well. Your statement is either disingenuous or outright lying, and regardless of which, deserving of nothing but the outright scorn, contempt, and hatred of all thinking beings. "HURP if people wanted books, they'd go buy them, we should get rid of libraries! DERP electricity practically pays for itself, let the free market decide! HURPADERP if people want to drive in their neighborhood, they'd pay to have them paved, no need for gubmint handouts!" fark you. fark you. fark everyone you know. fark your whole entire extended family. Generally I'd rather avoid divisive politics, but your sort of pseudo-intellectual 'my ignorance is just as good as his knowledge' lying, manipulative, idiotic, farktarded bullshiat is ACTUALLY what is ruining this country. Corporate greed can be mitigated, stupidity can be taught away, proud ignorance masquerading as intelligence however, is forever. Which you will prove by coming back and doubling down on your idiocy, I have no doubts.
2012-10-04 11:36:15 AM  
18 votes:
As Neil DeGrasse Tyson aptly pointed out:

i.imgur.com 

I also loved Big Bird's [@BigBird] tweet: "Yo Mitt Romney, Sesame Street is brought to you today by the letters F & U! #debates #SupportBigBird"
2012-10-04 11:58:19 AM  
15 votes:

hdhale: kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.

You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?


That's a stumper. Where could it be? Hmmmm.. I wonder

api.ning.com
2012-10-04 11:52:02 AM  
12 votes:
Fark Elmo

Grover Rules

smollin.com
Greatest book ever written.
2012-10-04 10:37:38 AM  
12 votes:
Elmo can't hold a candle to Grover.
2012-10-04 11:44:31 AM  
11 votes:
pbs.twimg.com
2012-10-04 11:55:26 AM  
8 votes:
This one comment may have stood out more than others, but just about everything Romney said last night came across as him being an out of touch elitist prick if you were listening.

"We should grade schools so parents know where to send their kids."
Yes, Mitt, because all parents are so fortunate as to have the means to send their kids to the school of their choice. And if you can't get your kid in that top notch school? Well, too bad, shoulda had more money.

"We shouldn't allow a government panel to decide who gets medical treatment."
Right, instead, we should trust those running the insurance companies to make those decisions, because there's no way they would choose to disregard someone's best interests in favor of bigger profits. And if that happens, well too bad, shoulda had more money.

Fark Mitt Romney. He is an elitist, uncaring sack of shiat, and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.
2012-10-04 11:41:40 AM  
8 votes:
We now like in a world where Big Bird is more in danger of being taken off the air than Honey Boo Boo Child.
2012-10-04 12:08:39 PM  
7 votes:
This is why Romney won't release his plan -- people like the idea of austerity, but not the specifics. This is also why I would have liked Obama to have used one of those two minute periods as follows:

Governor Romney, we find ourselves with an audience who want what's best for our country, but they need information. Right now I only have two minutes, so I have to ask myself, "What is the best way to inform them of the differences between our plans?" In normal circumstances the best way would be to list a few bullet points from my own plan. But, these aren't normal circumstances. I think a better use of time is a symbolic minute of silence, following this explanation. I raise a single issue, which you have so far ignored, and that is your silence.

As things stand, the American people have every reason to believe that either you don't have a plan, or you don't want them to know your plan. You need to address this issue, because they have a right to that information. Tell them specifically how you would change the tax code, and what departments, or programs, you would cut. In this minute you can think up a few specifics to fill your two minutes, but more importantly you need to fill the deafening silence that currently exists in this country. After the debate, you need to put your entire plan out in the open, on the Internet as I have, and allow the people to make an informed decision.

[Minute of silence]
2012-10-04 11:00:37 AM  
7 votes:
team snuffy
2012-10-04 11:30:29 AM  
6 votes:

Solty Dog: Can we offer up Elmo as a sacrifice? Can we just sacrifice Elmo? Cause F Elmo.


You're just saying that because he's black.

Republicans: billions for tanks the Pentagon doesn't even want? AMERICA, fark YEAH. Educational programing? OMG SOCIALISM
2012-10-04 12:24:47 PM  
5 votes:

hdhale: That's not going to balance the budget. It will however leave us vulnerable and will likely cause us to have to spend even more money down the road if you cut too deep because we'll be at war.

No, entitlements have to be cut. The problem is no one wants to give up their honey pot, and so PBS becomes a target when it doesn't have to be.


Do you really believe this is true? We spend nearly as much on war as the rest of the world combined. We have no enemies on our borders more significant than drug gangs, and the natural defense of thousands of miles of ocean against everyone else. Our defense spending is totally absurd. We draw up multi-billion dollar contracts for items that aren't even needed then go billions over budget anyway. It's totally ridiculous. The defense budget could be cut in at least half without leaving us vulnerable. And make no mistake - defense spending IS the honey pot that no one wants to give up. It's well paying, white collar, do nothing busy work jobs to produce products that no one needs and often don't even work.
2012-10-04 11:29:14 AM  
5 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault.


It's also not really Elmo's fault because he's a puppet.
2012-10-04 09:59:21 AM  
5 votes:
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
2012-10-04 09:47:16 AM  
5 votes:

Kyro: Dynascape: With all that was said last night.... Im really thinking Romney might have blew his edge with the Anti-PBS stance.

Everyone says he "won", but that one comment seems to stand out over any policy statements, so who knows, right?

Agreed 100%. That was the only remark anyone actually remembers. Farkin' PBS? Really? They run on like $20.


All I heard for an hour was "Im going to say the complete opposite of everything Ive ever said before, and act like the other guy is crazy for calling me out".

I got bored and switched to South Park at 10.
2012-10-04 09:43:09 AM  
5 votes:
Can we offer up Elmo as a sacrifice? Can we just sacrifice Elmo? Cause F Elmo.
2012-10-04 01:05:28 PM  
4 votes:

GooberMcFly: Holy crap, what happened in 2001 that caused that incredible increase in the debt?


GOP-controlled White House
GOP-controlled Senate
GOP-controlled House of Representatives
2012-10-04 12:15:04 PM  
4 votes:

hdhale: kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.

You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?


I can answer this very easily, plainly, and clearly. The answer is that there is no money to balance the budget, and we are all economically farked. The struggle in DC anymore is not how to balance the budget. They all know it can't be done. The struggle is how to keep juggling shiat around to make it last long enough to collect their pensions and get them into off-shore accounts, and time it so the other party is in control when it all comes tumbling down.

It is like that old vaudeville act where the guy is spinning plates on sticks. There are far too many plates to keep spinning, there have been for years, and everyone knows that you can't keep plates spinning forever anyway. It is all going to come crashing down, so nobody is really truly trying to do anything to keep that from happening. They are just trying to stall and posture so that when the plates do all fall down they can come out of it without any cuts and can point the finger at the other guy. In the meantime, they all keep smiling at the audience as if everything is going to be great, the music keeps playing, and as long as you don't look too closely everything seems fantastic.
2012-10-04 11:40:00 AM  
4 votes:
Have the Republicans considered the long term electoral damage that opposing PBS does?

As a child I knew with absolute certainty that Fred Rodgers = goodness in life. As a parent I can see my daughters love of Elmo and Daniel Tiger.

Why would you stake out a position in opposition to childhood joy and unconditional love?
2012-10-04 11:38:48 AM  
4 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him because they fell into some bullshiat line of thinking that kids have to have long blocks of content spoonfed to them, and that the


I think it's more because the age demographic shifted.

Think about it: In some ways, a number of the characters are sort of 'embodiments' of an age group. Big Bird is like a preschooler or kindergardner: He's started asking 'why', is seriously thinking about things, is trying to grapple with some difficult concepts (Alphabet, death, friendship, etc etc).

Elmo's more like a toddler or two-year old. Can't get them to shut up, bouncy, almost a little spazzy in their wide-eyed exploration of the world.

And with a lot more pre-school now, there just.. aren't as many pre-school aged children *watching* the show. Elmo fits their developmental level more, so they shifted the age-range down towards him.

/Note: I do not yet have children of my own, and am not a developmental psychologist, so this is just my own interpretation.
2012-10-04 11:34:02 AM  
4 votes:
I always wonder why they didn't just spin Elmo off into his own show. He's popular enough to carry one, and the others characters have been able to carry one for over 40 years. Seems like you could get two popular shows out of it.

Like what Animaniacs did when Pinky and the Brain became big.
2012-10-04 11:31:05 AM  
4 votes:
Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.
2012-10-04 09:44:26 AM  
4 votes:

Solty Dog: Can we offer up Elmo as a sacrifice? Can we just sacrifice Elmo? Cause F Elmo.


i.huffpost.com
2012-10-04 01:03:57 PM  
3 votes:

Lando Lincoln: mcsestretch: Obama had his chance. Now it's time for someone who knows what he's doing to take over.

I'd like to meet this candidate. Where is he?


I think he means Mitt Romney, which is strange, because the Mitt Romney who won the debate last night promised different things than the Romney who campaigned for the RNC nominee did, who in turn promised different things than the Romney who campaigned for Governor of Mass. Which Romney does he want I wonder.
2012-10-04 12:27:05 PM  
3 votes:

XplodedSynapses: "Oh, socialism..."

i heard that remark once when a seriously uninformed woman answered me as to why she opposed health care reform. She said it in such a wistful manner that i was momentarily confused by her intent.
She was mocking me

/Oh, socialism...


My uninformed (but trying to be more informed) roommate asked me last night "Everyone going on and on about Obama's plans being like socialism...what's so bad about socialism? What people don't want is totalitarianism (he didn't use that word, but spent 30 seconds describing Soviet Russia and Best Korea's leadership) - socialism sounds pretty good, actually."

And that is why they fail. The younger kids are going "Socialism? What's that?" and then they read about it on wikipedia, and see that it's only when the government farks it up, or decides that any move in the general direction of something that kind of looks like socialism if you squint a lot is bad, they become social democrats.

This uninformed roommate adds: "Isn't, like, Denmark a bunch of socialists, and they're doing pretty well." ("Sweden, actually, but yes, they are.")

And this is a low-info mid-twentysomething from Central Florida. In a few short years, the GOP is gonna be HOSED.

// oh, socialism...you so crazy
2012-10-04 12:25:39 PM  
3 votes:
How can the GOP be against PBS when they love Grover so much?

www.nndb.com
2012-10-04 12:01:43 PM  
3 votes:

Queue33: Have the Republicans considered the long term electoral damage that opposing PBS does?


Every attempt by the GOP to kill PBS has been stymied by the public. Bush put in charge a guy who blatantly hated public broadcasting and tried to force "moderation" and "balance" on PBS and NPR. He was run out of town on a rail. The people like PBS. The people will defend PBS.
2012-10-04 11:54:55 AM  
3 votes:
How the fark can people say he "won"? That's like having a debate about what color they sky is, the guy on the orange side just saying, "NO! ORANGE!" over and over, and then being like... well, orange sure seemed confident, even though hes been saying blue for the last 18+ months. Guess orange wins.
2012-10-04 11:45:57 AM  
3 votes:
I'll be interested to see new polls on Friday. I understand that Romney looked very calm and collected, but I want to know if anyone fell for the lines of bullshiat oozing out of Mitt's mouth.
I want to see ads from th Obama camp saying, "Mitt Romney's plan for fiscal solvency is slashing funding for PBS and NPR. Does Mr. Romney really believe we can balance the budget by slashing less than 1% of spending?". They should show an image of a small child happily watching Big Bird, then the television screen mysteriously turning to static. Personally, I feel that would be a very powerful image.
2012-10-04 11:22:33 AM  
3 votes:

spcMike: Elmo can't hold a candle to Grover.


Elmo doesn't even have a super hero alter ego.
2012-10-04 10:15:24 AM  
3 votes:
When Hooper died, Sesame Street died.

Also, as this cannot be said enough, F Elmo.
2012-10-04 10:07:30 AM  
3 votes:

JerseyTim: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]


If Mr. Rogers and Bob Ross were still alive, even Romney wouldn't be fool enough to make that comment, I think.
2012-10-04 09:45:04 AM  
3 votes:

Dynascape: With all that was said last night.... Im really thinking Romney might have blew his edge with the Anti-PBS stance.

Everyone says he "won", but that one comment seems to stand out over any policy statements, so who knows, right?


Agreed 100%. That was the only remark anyone actually remembers. Farkin' PBS? Really? They run on like $20.
2012-10-04 09:42:50 AM  
3 votes:
i96.photobucket.com
2012-10-04 02:33:03 PM  
2 votes:

HeadLever: seadoo2006: Again, the $900 BILLION ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM has not been addressed.

If you are talking about DoD, you number is a little 'optimistic'. Defense (including the wars) is about $650 to $675 Billion this year.


Actually ...

i47.tinypic.com
2012-10-04 02:25:46 PM  
2 votes:

Cedarbridge: DubyaHater: I'll be interested to see new polls on Friday. I understand that Romney looked very calm and collected, but I want to know if anyone fell for the lines of bullshiat oozing out of Mitt's mouth.
I want to see ads from th Obama camp saying, "Mitt Romney's plan for fiscal solvency is slashing funding for PBS and NPR. Does Mr. Romney really believe we can balance the budget by slashing less than 1% of spending?". They should show an image of a small child happily watching Big Bird, then the television screen mysteriously turning to static. Personally, I feel that would be a very powerful image.

Drawing attention to budget cutting and presenting it as something that isn't being done ENOUGH would raise its own questions. Particularly it would mean that the Obama camp would have to present a case where they too show a commitment to cutting the deficit through reduced spending and they'd have to show that they are going to do it without doing damage to PBS and NPR. From what I've seen of their platform, the Democrats are not prepared to do this. Though the cuts to PBS and NPR are misguided I don't think its a safe move on the part of the Democrats to draw attention to it as a move that doesn't "cut the deficit enough" but rather as cutting the deficit in the wrong way.

Frankly, if Obama did turn around right there on the spot and declare that the cuts to NPR/PBS were a terrible idea and instead spending cuts would take place here, here and here, I'd have been super impressed. I'd have been shocked first since neither party has seriously been interested in cutting spending since as far back as I can remember comfortably.


Again, the $900 BILLION ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM has not been addressed. Government welfare is bad - unless it goes to Northrop-Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Haliburton, and Blackwater ... mhmmm, got it.

/Delete the DoD off the budget, raise taxes back to Eisenhower-era rates, and make capital gains taxable at marginal income rates and guess what? Our country has no more financial problems.
//If we just HALVED the DoD, and did nothing else, the debt would be paid off in 30 years.
2012-10-04 01:48:51 PM  
2 votes:

Bender The Offender: I want an "I survived the cock monkey/big bird holocaust" badge.


Challenge Accepted...

ytrewq.com
2012-10-04 01:48:32 PM  
2 votes:
americablog.com
2012-10-04 01:07:39 PM  
2 votes:
We need PBS.

On the other hand, compared to the BBC, they freakin' suck.
2012-10-04 01:00:45 PM  
2 votes:
Apropos of nothing much, both of the "Monster at the End of this Book" books are available as interactive apps on iTunes. My toddler loves them.
2012-10-04 12:56:48 PM  
2 votes:

mcsestretch: Obama had his chance. Now it's time for someone who knows what he's doing to take over.


I'd like to meet this candidate. Where is he?
2012-10-04 12:50:52 PM  
2 votes:
From 2003 to 2006, 'Sesame Street' made more than $211 million from toy and consumer product sales. So Big Bird is a 1 farking percenter

www.thefablife.com
2012-10-04 12:47:50 PM  
2 votes:

hdhale: Except that the budget was balanced in the 90s, so the Cold War debt was paid off.


No, it wasn't balanced by Clinton, he used enron-esque tactics to claim it did. And balanced budget vs. debt is a hugely different thing.

www.brillig.com, from http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html for instance. If it had been balanced, you'd see the overall debt total go down, which you can see it doesn't. And we haven't paid OFF the debt until that number drops to zero.

I tried to read the rest of your points, but couldn't, because I'm thinking they're based on your flawed opening statement.
2012-10-04 12:39:42 PM  
2 votes:
images.huffingtonpost.com
2012-10-04 12:36:21 PM  
2 votes:

hurdboy: Solty Dog: Can we offer up Elmo as a sacrifice? Can we just sacrifice Elmo? Cause F Elmo.

[i.huffpost.com image 575x490]


If Elmo looked like this one one would want to get rid of him
i265.photobucket.com
2012-10-04 12:29:18 PM  
2 votes:

WorldKnowledge: Nothing but net . . .



LOL. Do you know what the most tweeted thing about this most tweeted event was? We're talking about it in this thread.
2012-10-04 12:27:50 PM  
2 votes:
Also a supporter of Public Television.
dchallofjustice.com
"This program made possible by a generous grant from the Ultra-Humanite, and Viewers Like You."
2012-10-04 12:25:47 PM  
2 votes:
Gotta love Fark. I didn't watch the stage-managed bullshiat everybody calls a "debate" and when I started seeing references to Big Bird on the intertubes (with no explanation), my reaction was "WTF?" But all I had to do was scroll down about 10 comments in this thread, and now I know what's going on.

It's amusing how the bar is set so low for Republicans now in this thing, if they can do better than drool and mumble "secret Muslim," they can "win" the "debate."

As if all the stupid shiat they've been saying for years now is erased by a merely competent performance in one appearance by spokesmodel Romney.

That's right, the gay-hating, woman-hating, brown-hating, poor-hating screeching by the Republicans is all washed away now. I'm convinced they're the ones who need to be running the country, if that's possible after stammering Obama has completely ruined it in 3 years. He was handed a shimmering jewel of affluent democracy and look what he's done to it. Thanks a lot, Fartbongo.
2012-10-04 12:20:41 PM  
2 votes:

obamadidcoke: Fark Elmo

Grover Rules

[smollin.com image 398x540]
Greatest book ever written.


OMG! I had that book! It's right up there w/ my cock monkey in terms of childhood nostalgia
2012-10-04 12:19:45 PM  
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: We now live in a world where Big Bird is more in danger of being taken off the air than Honey Boo Boo Child.


Republican voters can't understand Big Bird, but they can understand Honey Boo Boo Child. That's Romney's pandering ass on stage, ensuring that Americans remain dumb, docile, and distracted while he and his rich assholes continue pillaging more than half a century of middle class financial gains, so they can line their own pockets while dumb bastards watch Honey Boo Boo Child and blame "libruls" for it.
2012-10-04 12:05:10 PM  
2 votes:

Needsun: I think the mental midgets have, once again, missed the point.
PBS is a commercially viable product capable of supporting itself
and showing a profit on the bottom line. Why are they collecting
welfare from the feral gub'amint (aka taxpayers)? Oh, it's ONLY
.0012%! The amount of support isn't relevant, the fact they're
being supported at all is the issue. Don't worry tho - your food
stamp president will come to the rescue.


Rather than engage your trolling, I just want to know what tool you use to post. You have hard carriage returns at 66 characters. Punch cards have more line length. Did you type this on a phone? (Notice the word 'smart' did not preface that.)
2012-10-04 12:04:47 PM  
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: We now like in a world where Big Bird is more in danger of being taken off the air than Honey Boo Boo Child.

2012-10-04 11:57:44 AM  
2 votes:
I think the mental midgets have, once again, missed the point.
PBS is a commercially viable product capable of supporting itself
and showing a profit on the bottom line. Why are they collecting
welfare from the feral gub'amint (aka taxpayers)? Oh, it's ONLY
.0012%! The amount of support isn't relevant, the fact they're
being supported at all is the issue. Don't worry tho - your food
stamp president will come to the rescue.
2012-10-04 11:48:25 AM  
2 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: [i.imgur.com image 337x475]


ytrewq.com

FTFY
2012-10-04 11:47:54 AM  
2 votes:
For all you getting all uppity about Romney's position, when was the last time you donated to PBS? We all the begging from local affiliates. But do you actually give?

Just something to think about.
2012-10-04 11:43:07 AM  
2 votes:
I work overnights and care for the little hose heads during the day while Mrs. Hobbs works so we make ends meet. There is no nap better than the 10 to 11 Sesame Street nap. The only time the TV is on usually. I don't think a vote for either one of those j/os will change our situation but Romney can EABODs if he Fs with my nap time.
2012-10-04 11:39:33 AM  
2 votes:
Snuffy wishes he was still imaginary.
2012-10-04 11:37:06 AM  
2 votes:
The real reason Romney's cutting PBS:

i171.photobucket.com

/(shakes fist) evolutioooooooooon!
2012-10-04 11:35:00 AM  
2 votes:

Ruca: FirstNationalBastard: Solty Dog: FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him

Kevin Clash, the voice of Elmo, is the person that decides content. That screams shenanigans. He forcefed his own character to the children. The show is horrible and the voice is like Fran Drescher's dying velociraptor voice. I will be so glad when my kid is out of that. I am burning...everything.

Ah, but if you do a bit of research, his days as a Producer come only after Sesame Street is changed to be more of the Elmo Show.

So, odds are the people in charge decide to change things because of toy sales, then the guy doing the character gets a bone tossed his way.


yep. and elmo is popular because kids love him. i don't know WHY they do but they do. when my kid was 5 months old he was in love with elmo, it was one of the first things he instantly recognized. elmo makes him smile every time. perhaps because he's red so he catches the eye faster


You let let your 5month old watch tv?

You are a horrible parent.
2012-10-04 11:32:10 AM  
2 votes:
s3.torbit.com
2012-10-04 11:06:41 AM  
2 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Solty Dog: FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him

Kevin Clash, the voice of Elmo, is the person that decides content. That screams shenanigans. He forcefed his own character to the children. The show is horrible and the voice is like Fran Drescher's dying velociraptor voice. I will be so glad when my kid is out of that. I am burning...everything.

Ah, but if you do a bit of research, his days as a Producer come only after Sesame Street is changed to be more of the Elmo Show.

So, odds are the people in charge decide to change things because of toy sales, then the guy doing the character gets a bone tossed his way.



yep. and elmo is popular because kids love him. i don't know WHY they do but they do. when my kid was 5 months old he was in love with elmo, it was one of the first things he instantly recognized. elmo makes him smile every time. perhaps because he's red so he catches the eye faster
2012-10-04 11:05:25 AM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-10-04 10:08:15 AM  
2 votes:

oldfarthenry: So the election has been downgraded elevated to a puppet show?


Pretty much. fark rational, sane debate on the issues. Lets all spam facebook with captioned pictures of big bird.
2012-10-04 10:04:22 AM  
2 votes:
So the election has been downgraded elevated to a puppet show?
2012-10-04 10:01:59 AM  
2 votes:

Dynascape: Everyone says he "won", but that one comment seems to stand out over any policy statements, so who knows, right?


I mean, that was the one concrete statement anyone made.
2012-10-05 02:30:51 AM  
1 votes:
Why are we talking about Big Bird instead of...

the "black site" at Bagram airbase, where the Red Cross has reported detainee abuse, that was turned over the the Afghans only a few weeks ago and we don't even know who it was used to detain?

Obama violating his own ban on lobbyists working for the administration?

the 19 of 20 of Obama's Cabinet-level agencies that disobeyed the law requiring the disclosure of public information?

the continued renditions of alleged terrorists to countries where they could be tortured?

the push for mandatory DNA testing of those arrested for crimes, regardless of whether they have been convicted?

the dramatic increase in government secrecy, where more FOIA requests were blocked by Obama in 2009 than Bush did in 2008?

the granting of waivers for dozens of companies, including McDonald's, exempting them from health care reform that was supposed to cover everyone?

the push to sell $60,000,000,000 of weapons to Saudi Arabia, a record setting arms deal?

the authorization of assassination of US citizens abroad, a declaration of executive power no US President has ever made, even in war time?

the fight for government immunity in prosecutions for domestic spying?

the warentless, real-time tracking of the mobile phones of US citizens?

the quarter billion dollar contract the Obama administration awarded to Blackwater?

the dramatic increased the use of drone attacks in Pakistan, resulting in hundreds of civilian casualties?

the NDAA's direct violation of the Constitutional rights of American citizens?

the largest crack down on whistle blowers in American history?

the abuse and continuing detention of Bradley Manning?

the appointment of Monsanto executive Michael R. Taylor to head the Food and Drug Administration?

the appointment of former Monsanto lobbyist Islam Siddiqui as Chief Agriculture Negotiator?


farm4.staticflickr.com
2012-10-05 01:56:38 AM  
1 votes:

DreamyAltarBoy: PBS and NPR help to dispel ignorance and teach tolerance. Why would anyone want to eliminate that when the effect on the budget would be negligible?


I don't know. Can you think of anyone who gains politically from ignorance or a lack of tolerance?
2012-10-05 12:27:26 AM  
1 votes:
Mitt Romney: Easy on Wall Street, Tough on Sesame Street.
2012-10-04 08:06:18 PM  
1 votes:
reneau.smugmug.com
2012-10-04 07:38:00 PM  
1 votes:
TV's Vinnie: We now like in a world where Big Bird is more in danger of being taken off the air than Honey Boo Boo Child.

BEARS BEARS BEARS 

Fu(king Honey Boo Boo Child?
2012-10-04 07:12:09 PM  
1 votes:
dailycaller.com
2012-10-04 04:54:21 PM  
1 votes:
Also, notice that Europe is 20% and East Asia/Australasia (basically our allies) make up another 28%. Our bloc makes up 76% of global military spend.
2012-10-04 04:45:12 PM  
1 votes:

HeadLever: Keizer_Ghidorah: HeadLever: Citrate1007: Conservatives actually believe that PBS makes children liberal......

This one doesn't. However, I also belive that it is not a valid use of my taxpayer dollars.

Yeah, why should we spend money educating our children?

We do. Public education is something I support. However, last time I looked, having taxpayer money spent on PBS was not required for our kids to become educated. I love PBS and have supported them in the past. Still don't want may taxpayer dollars going to them.


I don't want my money going to the military to invade other countries whenever we get a raging erection for it. That's a far worse use of money than funding educational shows. And do you really believe that killing one television station will stop and reverse the deficit?
2012-10-04 04:42:22 PM  
1 votes:

loral: Why PBS and Big Bird does not need government suport:


PBS does not equal Jim Henson Studios.
2012-10-04 04:34:15 PM  
1 votes:

HeadLever: However, when you have trillion dollar deficits every year, it is time to cut out the fluff.


No it is time to change things that will actually make a farking difference. When you have not enough income to pay your mortgage the solutions are, in order of perference, more income followed by a smaller mortgage. buying a cheaper brand of toilet paper is not actually going to help.
2012-10-04 04:14:23 PM  
1 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: Needsun: I think the mental midgets have, once again, missed the point.
PBS is a commercially viable product capable of supporting itself
and showing a profit on the bottom line. Why are they collecting
welfare from the feral gub'amint (aka taxpayers)? Oh, it's ONLY
.0012%! The amount of support isn't relevant, the fact they're
being supported at all is the issue. Don't worry tho - your food
stamp president will come to the rescue.

No it isn't. You're making the same mistake the people focusing on Big Bird are, in conflating some successful studios who produce content for the PBS market with PBS. However, unlike those people, you're wrong on additional levels, because the removal of PBS would in fact destroy the product those studios make. In your invisible free hand capitalist utopia they would be forced to accept creative 'input' from the stations, modify content to fit advertisers, and eventually turn into the exact kind of toyetic crap that makes them and their ability to avoid that by being on PBS a breath of fresh air compared to the content available on the other stations. In short, you are a whore's john shilling for pimps, and should very much go fark yourself with a bag of burning cocks, you sulpherous whoreson.

And I mean that with all due honesty and intent. Anyone who goes after PBS deserves their world of reality TV and Paris Hilton, but I do not personally want to have to live in it as well. Your statement is either disingenuous or outright lying, and regardless of which, deserving of nothing but the outright scorn, contempt, and hatred of all thinking beings. "HURP if people wanted books, they'd go buy them, we should get rid of libraries! DERP electricity practically pays for itself, let the free market decide! HURPADERP if people want to drive in their neighborhood, they'd pay to have them paved, no need for gubmint handouts!" fark you. fark you. fark everyone you know. fark your whole entire extended family. Generally I'd rather ...


I can't favorite you enough.
2012-10-04 03:48:37 PM  
1 votes:

reillan: HeadLever: Citrate1007: Conservatives actually believe that PBS makes children liberal......

This one doesn't. However, I also belive that it is not a valid use of my taxpayer dollars.

Bet you didn't believe that until last night


Since I did not even watch the debate (damn work deadline), that is a bet you would lose.


authorizeduser: Relax folks, PBS isn't going to vaporize without public financing. Most of the funding already comes from private organizations... and viewers like you.


Exactly. Even the evil Koch brothers are major sponsors.
2012-10-04 03:48:35 PM  
1 votes:
FormlessOne

Interesting, because $900 billion goes a LONG, LONG god damn way ... Fark the DoD and raise taxes on all ... and make sure that everyone knows that the 10% increase in taxes are a direct result of 2 unpaid wars and our cold war against Russia.

In 2006, the then Junior Sen. from Illinois pretty much worked the same angle during the debt ceiling debate that session (voted against raising - when raising it was already vote `heavy")
He hit the spenders on the fact that `Pay-as-you-go' (had been in partial effect for a while) had been plowed under, i.e., want to make a tax cut? Cut the equivalent amount of spending, spend on a war or whatever? Raise taxes.

During the Repub's debt ceiling theater, last summer, (cost 1.8 billion to stage that `show' according the GAO) Sen.Obama's vote against raising ceiling was brought up multiple times, but Pay-as-you-go? Farking dead silence.
2012-10-04 03:26:50 PM  
1 votes:
The difference between Conservative Government and a Socialist Government (that of the American Left) when shaken down to its raw essentials will make, or break, the United States of America.

The American Democrat Party, which is, in truth, the socialist party, does not see it that way. Actually they do see it that way, but the problem they have is that they cannot exist under a Constitutional government in the US. Freedom and Socialism cannot exist in the same place, much like "Matter" and "Anti-Matter". And therein lies the problem, which is rotting away at the foundation of the United States.

Let me see if I can break it down a bit more:

Under a Constitutional government, the power of the government is limited. Limited government allows the citizens to rule their country.

Under the Socialist brand of government, sometimes called an "Administrative state", citizens do not rule their country, bureaucrats do, and with them the elite intellectuals. At least THEY think they are elite!

The United States was founded as a free country. Its citizens were autonomous. They were free. The US had a free economy. That was the way the designers of this land, the Founding Fathers, planned it. And it worked... right up to the dawn of "Socialism in American" during the reign of, and as the direct results of actions taken by, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It has been downhill for America ever since.

Socialism is a creeping disease. It is quiet and deadly. It offers much and deliver almost nothing.

Simply put, Socialism is a trade off. A people must give up freedom for security. It is just that simple. IF you would be a free people, then you cannot allow socialism, in any form, in your country's government. If, on the other hand, you wish to be secure, from want and fear, then you absolutely MUST give up your freedom. That is the choice.

The American Left is the driving force behind socialism in America. Lets be clear: Socialism is anti-American.

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Constitution_Issues/republic-vs-sociali s t.html
2012-10-04 02:56:52 PM  
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: seadoo2006: So, cut it ALL then and raise taxes to counter the rest

You want to completely defund the military?

Think about what you're saying. Just think about it for a minute.


Oh, I have ... I'm not really worried about brown people blowing me up ... I know you might fly in airplanes afraid the guy in the turban is readying to light his pants on fire, but me, whatever ... if it's my time to go, it's my time to go.

Reduce our military spending down to what Canada spends every year ... recall all of our standing troops around the world. Seriously, if you're going to say that PBS and Sesame Street are bankrupting the nation, let's cut the biggest spenders first.

I'm already okay with raising the SS age. You should be 75 or older to retire, not a day younger. If you want to espouse fiscal austerity, cool, but you can't half ass it by saying that the defense budget is off limits. Sorry bub, either your taxes go up or Ahmed might have a slightly easier time boarding a plane. Americans have gone soft ... we spend more now than we ever did during the cold war because 19 borderline-retarded Saudis took four planes with some box cutters ... congrats, glad to know that's all it took to complete up-end the entire country's outlook on protection.

/Idiots ...
//If we cut the budget, we cut it by percentage of spending ... for every dollar in cuts, 35 cents from Defense, 30 cents from SS/Medicare, and 35 cents from discretionary spending.
2012-10-04 01:36:24 PM  
1 votes:

MikeBoomshadow: lumiere: Needsun: I think the mental midgets have, once again, missed the point.
PBS is a commercially viable product capable of supporting itself
and showing a profit on the bottom line. Why are they collecting
welfare from the feral gub'amint (aka taxpayers)? Oh, it's ONLY
.0012%! The amount of support isn't relevant, the fact they're
being supported at all is the issue. Don't worry tho - your food
stamp president will come to the rescue.

Jim DeMint: "From 2003 to 2006, 'Sesame Street' made more than $211 million from toy and consumer product sales."

PolitiFact: "We got the 2009 990 tax form submitted by the Sesame Workshop, the nonprofit group that produces the show, and DeMint is correct. It shows Knell's salary at $806,990, with an additional $149,523 worth of other compensation. For the toy sales numbers, we have to go to the 2008 990 tax form. In a section on "other income," it reports "toys and consumer products" as bringing just over $211 million from 2003 through 2006 (nearly $53 million a year, on average)."

source^

Of course, the current appropriation for ONE year for the CPB is $445.2 million, so your and DeMint's definition of "profitable" seems not to reflect math or reality.


So, the thing here is, CPB produces more shows than just Sesame Street. So, DeMint is completely correct when he says Sesame Workshop is profitable. You and lumiere are both incorrect when you think that is equivalent to CPB as a whole.
2012-10-04 01:30:40 PM  
1 votes:

CeroX:

Yep, they'll just pack up and leave, GE, GM, Boeing, Wall Street, White Westing House, Time Warner, Ford... They'll all just pack up and leave won't they? Just like they did in the generations past... There are entire generations of cars missing from ford because they left the US in the 70's, 80's, and 90's when taxes were 10% higher than they are now... The jobs just packed up and left, no one worked, no one prospered, the county was a desolate wasteland wasn't it?

Have you talked to your doctor about the possibility of Dementia?


It's funny because it suggests or admits that the rich only stay in the US due to the tax rate, and that they are all unpatriotic enough to pack up and leave if that changes.
2012-10-04 01:30:00 PM  
1 votes:
I want an "I survived the cock monkey/big bird holocaust" badge.
2012-10-04 01:19:43 PM  
1 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: Needsun: I think the mental midgets have, once again, missed the point.
PBS is a commercially viable product capable of supporting itself
and showing a profit on the bottom line. Why are they collecting
welfare from the feral gub'amint (aka taxpayers)? Oh, it's ONLY
.0012%! The amount of support isn't relevant, the fact they're
being supported at all is the issue. Don't worry tho - your food
stamp president will come to the rescue.

No it isn't. You're making the same mistake the people focusing on Big Bird are, in conflating some successful studios who produce content for the PBS market with PBS. However, unlike those people, you're wrong on additional levels, because the removal of PBS would in fact destroy the product those studios make. In your invisible free hand capitalist utopia they would be forced to accept creative 'input' from the stations, modify content to fit advertisers, and eventually turn into the exact kind of toyetic crap that makes them and their ability to avoid that by being on PBS a breath of fresh air compared to the content available on the other stations. In short, you are a whore's john shilling for pimps, and should very much go fark yourself with a bag of burning cocks, you sulpherous whoreson.

And I mean that with all due honesty and intent. Anyone who goes after PBS deserves their world of reality TV and Paris Hilton, but I do not personally want to have to live in it as well. Your statement is either disingenuous or outright lying, and regardless of which, deserving of nothing but the outright scorn, contempt, and hatred of all thinking beings. "HURP if people wanted books, they'd go buy them, we should get rid of libraries! DERP electricity practically pays for itself, let the free market decide! HURPADERP if people want to drive in their neighborhood, they'd pay to have them paved, no need for gubmint handouts!" fark you. fark you. fark everyone you know. fark your whole entire extended family. Generally I'd rather ...


i love you
2012-10-04 01:11:38 PM  
1 votes:

hdhale: kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.

You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?


...Medicare. It's in Medicare.

There. You see, Lord Norquist, she can be reasonable. Continue with the operation; you may cut when ready.

WHAT?

You're far too trusting. Medicare is too popular to make an effective demonstration - but don't worry; we will deal with your moocher 47 percenter friends soon enough.

i.imgur.com
2012-10-04 01:09:41 PM  
1 votes:

hdhale: Except that the budget was balanced in the 90s, so the Cold War debt was paid off. We had to go into Afghanistan, so I'm sorry for your problems, but if that war wasn't justified, get on a plane and get out of my country. Iraq was a total judgment call and I personally would have order us in, but I wouldn't have just assumed that the natives would all be friendly like the French in 1944. Yes, your taxes should have gone up to the old Clinton era rates at some point, but also remember that the economy was on the downhill slide BEFORE Bush took office, thanks to the dotcom bubble bursting and thousands of high tech, high paying jobs disappeared over night. 9/11 didn't help either. Raising taxes without mobilizing the country properly (another Bush mistake IMHO...never declare a war on anything without a draft) would have made things worse.

There is a hell of a lot of blame to go around regarding why we went from the black (done with a Moderate to Liberal President and a basically Moderate to Conservative Congress) to deep crimson with the Federal budget. What's also clear is that Mr. Obama means well but he's incapable of balancing the budget or even getting it moving in that direction. Mr. Romney at least gives us a chance...however slim...of getting back there.


Now wait just a minute... balancing the budget does not mean the debt was paid. No sir. You're not out of debt the moment you can afford to start paying back your debts, it does not work that way. Although the tech bubble burst was not helpful for the economy, we would nonetheless be facing a mere fraction of the debt we have now if Bush the Lesser had not cut taxes. Motivation for going to war and all of that is meaningless right now; we've done it, now we have to pay for the damn thing. We have to look forward and start paying this off. There are specific changes that will start covering that distance; raising SS and medicare eligibility ages, removing the SS cap for high incomes, and a range of other sensible corrections (like stopping pork barrel military projects), we can achieve a surplus and maintain virtually all government programs. That is a vaguely ideologically neutral position, one neither side will ever commit to, but it has the benefit of being big enough to fix the problem.

Cutting minor social programs gets us no where. Worse, it pushes the government even further from the people it serves.
2012-10-04 01:09:33 PM  
1 votes:

tommyl66: soj4life: His comment that you can not balance the budget by raising taxes is what sticks out because it shows that he does not know math or any kind of accounting. Along with that, he wants to add another $2 trillion in unnecessary military spending.

Well, yeah, if you raise taxes on the uber-wealthy then they'll take their ball and go home, which means no jobs for anybody, which means we'll all have to crack open each others' skulls and feast on the goo inside. And that does nothing to help lower the deficit, and we all know if we don't lower the deficit it will one day hunt us down, steal our women and children and give us the butt cancer.


If we are feasting on each other, wouldn't that lower the cost of medicaide and medicare? That would knock some expenses away.
2012-10-04 01:06:43 PM  
1 votes:
butchrenfroe.com
Guess PBS will have to stop sucking at the government's teat.

Mitt: Hey Jim, nice to have you moderating this thing, but when I get elected, I'm totaly firing your ass.

lol.
2012-10-04 01:06:25 PM  
1 votes:
I still always think of this when an asshat wants to cut pbs

Mister Rogers defending PBS to the US Senate
2012-10-04 01:02:10 PM  
1 votes:

DownDaRiver: We have Americans dying in Iraq and Afganistan.
Big Brother private rights.
TSA Terror Theatre problems.
Syria issues
Iran n Isreal issues
Bloated Government costs
Failing infrastructures
Health care
Social Security
????????..........

But by all means, turn the race for POTUS into a circus about Big Bird because that is important!


It can't be helped that the debate was so unsubstantial that Romney going to kill Big Bird was the only thing people got out of it.
2012-10-04 12:56:18 PM  
1 votes:
We have Americans dying in Iraq and Afganistan.
Big Brother private rights.
TSA Terror Theatre problems.
Syria issues
Iran n Isreal issues
Bloated Government costs
Failing infrastructures
Health care
Social Security
????????..........

But by all means, turn the race for POTUS into a circus about Big Bird because that is important!
2012-10-04 12:55:33 PM  
1 votes:

djh0101010: If it had been balanced, you'd see the overall debt total go down, which you can see it doesn't.


The budget could be balanced (and it was), but that doesn't necessarily mean that the debt would have gone down.

There was a tax surplus. That money could have gone towards paying down the debt, but it wasn't. It also could have gone towards giving a tax cut to Americans instead. Or it could have gone towards starting up new government programs, or increasing funding for current ones.
2012-10-04 12:54:07 PM  
1 votes:
Is this the October Surprise?! That Mitt Romney will kill Big Bird?
2012-10-04 12:52:37 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-10-04 12:48:16 PM  
1 votes:
Toby Ziegler is spitting nails right about now. 

Link
2012-10-04 12:39:49 PM  
1 votes:

seadoo2006: Balchinian: hdhale: kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.

You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?

I can answer this very easily, plainly, and clearly. The answer is that there is no money to balance the budget, and we are all economically farked. The struggle in DC anymore is not how to balance the budget. They all know it can't be done. The struggle is how to keep juggling shiat around to make it last long enough to collect their pensions and get them into off-shore accounts, and time it so the other party is in control when it all comes tumbling down.

It is like that old vaudeville act where the guy is spinning plates on sticks. There are far too many plates to keep spinning, there have been for years, and everyone knows that you can't keep plates spinning forever anyway. It is all going to come crashing down, so nobody is really truly trying to do anything to keep that from happening. They are just trying to stall and posture so that when the plates do all fall down they can come out of it without any cuts and can point the finger at the other guy. In the meantime, they all keep smiling at the audience as if everything is going to be great, the music keeps playing, and as long as you don't look too closely everything seems fantastic.

Interesting, because $900 billion goes a LONG, LONG god damn way ... Fark the DoD and raise taxes on all ... and make sure that everyone knows that the 10% increase in taxes are a direct result of 2 unpaid wars and our cold war against Russia.


Except that the budget was balanced in the 90s, so the Cold War debt was paid off. We had to go into Afghanistan, so I'm sorry for your problems, but if that war wasn't justified, get on a plane and get out of my country. Iraq was a total judgment call and I personally would have order us in, but I wouldn't have just assumed that the natives would all be friendly like the French in 1944. Yes, your taxes should have gone up to the old Clinton era rates at some point, but also remember that the economy was on the downhill slide BEFORE Bush took office, thanks to the dotcom bubble bursting and thousands of high tech, high paying jobs disappeared over night. 9/11 didn't help either. Raising taxes without mobilizing the country properly (another Bush mistake IMHO...never declare a war on anything without a draft) would have made things worse.

There is a hell of a lot of blame to go around regarding why we went from the black (done with a Moderate to Liberal President and a basically Moderate to Conservative Congress) to deep crimson with the Federal budget. What's also clear is that Mr. Obama means well but he's incapable of balancing the budget or even getting it moving in that direction. Mr. Romney at least gives us a chance...however slim...of getting back there.
2012-10-04 12:39:11 PM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: For all you getting all uppity about Romney's position, when was the last time you donated to PBS? We all the begging from local affiliates. But do you actually give?

Just something to think about.


I'd be willing to pay more in taxes just to avoid the begging. I thought the whole point of PBS was that there wouldn't be fundraising?
2012-10-04 12:34:31 PM  
1 votes:
m.static.newsvine.com 

/republicans...so much derp
2012-10-04 12:26:20 PM  
1 votes:
i1139.photobucket.com
Nothing but net . . .
2012-10-04 12:22:16 PM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him

Kevin Clash, the voice of Elmo, is the person that decides content. That screams shenanigans. He forcefed his own character to the children. The show is horrible and the voice is like Fran Drescher's dying velociraptor voice. I will be so glad when my kid is out of that. I am burning...everything.


I think performing Elmo and that character's popularity is what led to Kevin's rise to power, not vice versa. I'm not a huge fan of Elmo, but I have kids so I'm stuck with him for a bit. However, I have a new respect for Kevin Clash after watching Being Elmo on Netflix and seeing how he really worked his way up to being a puppeteer on SS.
2012-10-04 12:21:58 PM  
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2012-10-04 12:21:28 PM  
1 votes:
GAH! OMG. SOCK monkey. I meant SOCK MONKEY.,

/ sorry, modmins!
2012-10-04 12:20:19 PM  
1 votes:
I was having a bad week until I clicked on this thread.
2012-10-04 12:19:15 PM  
1 votes:

Balchinian: hdhale: kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.

You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?

I can answer this very easily, plainly, and clearly. The answer is that there is no money to balance the budget, and we are all economically farked. The struggle in DC anymore is not how to balance the budget. They all know it can't be done. The struggle is how to keep juggling shiat around to make it last long enough to collect their pensions and get them into off-shore accounts, and time it so the other party is in control when it all comes tumbling down.

It is like that old vaudeville act where the guy is spinning plates on sticks. There are far too many plates to keep spinning, there have been for years, and everyone knows that you can't keep plates spinning forever anyway. It is all going to come crashing down, so nobody is really truly trying to do anything to keep that from happening. They are just trying to stall and posture so that when the plates do all fall down they can come out of it without any cuts and can point the finger at the other guy. In the meantime, they all keep smiling at the audience as if everything is going to be great, the music keeps playing, and as long as you don't look too closely everything seems fantastic.


Interesting, because $900 billion goes a LONG, LONG god damn way ... Fark the DoD and raise taxes on all ... and make sure that everyone knows that the 10% increase in taxes are a direct result of 2 unpaid wars and our cold war against Russia.
2012-10-04 12:18:05 PM  
1 votes:
"Oh, socialism..."

i heard that remark once when a seriously uninformed woman answered me as to why she opposed health care reform. She said it in such a wistful manner that i was momentarily confused by her intent.
She was mocking me

/Oh, socialism...
2012-10-04 12:11:27 PM  
1 votes:
i253.photobucket.com
2012-10-04 12:06:41 PM  
1 votes:
*Where* is the money to balance the budget?

In the three places all politicians fear to tread ; Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid, and the Defense Department. Not to mention the need to raise revenues, regardless of what Grover and his minions think. Until we come to grips with the entitlement programs we expect, change the income level for paying into Social Security and cut the bloated defense budget, we're pissing in the wind when it comes to cutting the deficit.So, basically , we're farked !
2012-10-04 12:02:17 PM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: For all you getting all uppity about Romney's position, when was the last time you donated to PBS? We all the begging from local affiliates. But do you actually give?

Just something to think about.


i'm a sustainer of my local PBS station. i just renewed yesterday actually, because doing it during that beg period put me in a pool for a trip to the galapagos islands, and my GF has never been there. doubt i will win, but i already own plenty of tote bags.
2012-10-04 12:01:46 PM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: hurdboy: Solty Dog: Can we offer up Elmo as a sacrifice? Can we just sacrifice Elmo? Cause F Elmo.

[i.huffpost.com image 575x490]

As much as I love the funbags, that shirt ruins it for me. Ruins, I say!


Would you feel better if she were to remove said red shirt?
2012-10-04 12:00:59 PM  
1 votes:
i86.photobucket.com
2012-10-04 11:58:48 AM  
1 votes:
As soon as Mittens said it I burst out "He wants to kill Big Bird, it's over!" and my wife doubted me.

/one of these days I might even tell her that I was right
//at least I'll think it
///maybe
2012-10-04 11:57:08 AM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-10-04 11:55:52 AM  
1 votes:

stampylives: How the fark can people say he "won"? That's like having a debate about what color they sky is, the guy on the orange side just saying, "NO! ORANGE!" over and over, and then being like... well, orange sure seemed confident, even though hes been saying blue for the last 18+ months. Guess orange wins.


Yeah, people are retarded and it's all about perception, and the media's storyline.
2012-10-04 11:55:28 AM  
1 votes:
I guess I'll have to go back to my previous job

www.andyandnoreen.com
2012-10-04 11:52:29 AM  
1 votes:
indianapublicmedia.org
One! Top one percent! AH AH AH 
2012-10-04 11:48:59 AM  
1 votes:
I'd be surprised if Sesame Street either gets or needs federal funding. They must rake in a ton of money from merchandising.
2012-10-04 11:48:03 AM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: As much as I love the funbags, that shirt ruins it for me. Ruins, I say!


Have you seen it in motion?

/That link may not be SFW. Proceed with caution.
2012-10-04 11:46:59 AM  
1 votes:

big pig peaches: Ruca: FirstNationalBastard: Solty Dog: FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him

Kevin Clash, the voice of Elmo, is the person that decides content. That screams shenanigans. He forcefed his own character to the children. The show is horrible and the voice is like Fran Drescher's dying velociraptor voice. I will be so glad when my kid is out of that. I am burning...everything.

Ah, but if you do a bit of research, his days as a Producer come only after Sesame Street is changed to be more of the Elmo Show.

So, odds are the people in charge decide to change things because of toy sales, then the guy doing the character gets a bone tossed his way.


yep. and elmo is popular because kids love him. i don't know WHY they do but they do. when my kid was 5 months old he was in love with elmo, it was one of the first things he instantly recognized. elmo makes him smile every time. perhaps because he's red so he catches the eye faster

You let let your 5month old watch tv?

You are a horrible parent.


You are NOT a horrible parent. Well maybe you are but that would have nothing to do with your child loving Elmo.
2012-10-04 11:43:21 AM  
1 votes:

kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.


You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?
2012-10-04 11:42:28 AM  
1 votes:
i.crackedcdn.com
2012-10-04 11:41:36 AM  
1 votes:

Wade_Wilson: I always wonder why they didn't just spin Elmo off into his own show. He's popular enough to carry one, and the others characters have been able to carry one for over 40 years. Seems like you could get two popular shows out of it.

Like what Animaniacs did when Pinky and the Brain became big.


Wade_Wilson, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
2012-10-04 11:38:04 AM  
1 votes:

lumiere: As Neil DeGrasse Tyson aptly pointed out:

 

I also loved Big Bird's [@BigBird] tweet: "Yo Mitt Romney, Sesame Street is brought to you today by the letters F & U! #debates #SupportBigBird"


Neil is my hero.
2012-10-04 11:37:24 AM  
1 votes:

Dynascape: Kyro: YO FREE RIDE IS OVAH PBS

With all that was said last night.... Im really thinking Romney might have blew his edge with the Anti-PBS stance. Arby's.

2012-10-04 11:35:53 AM  
1 votes:
67.19.222.106

It's all starting to make sense!
2012-10-04 11:35:34 AM  
1 votes:

blatz514: spcMike: Elmo can't hold a candle to Grover.


F*ck you ... Oscar beats them all.
2012-10-04 11:31:25 AM  
1 votes:

EatenTheSun: spcMike: Elmo can't hold a candle to Grover.

Elmo doesn't even have a super hero alter ego.


This. Motherf*cking Super Grover!
2012-10-04 11:29:02 AM  
1 votes:

Dynascape: Kyro: YO FREE RIDE IS OVAH PBS

With all that was said last night.... Im really thinking Romney might have blew his edge with the Anti-PBS stance.

Everyone says he "won", but that one comment seems to stand out over any policy statements, so who knows, right?


Why can't that guy just quit saying stupid things? Even fellow Republicans don't like him.
2012-10-04 11:03:40 AM  
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Solty Dog: FirstNationalBastard: It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him

Kevin Clash, the voice of Elmo, is the person that decides content. That screams shenanigans. He forcefed his own character to the children. The show is horrible and the voice is like Fran Drescher's dying velociraptor voice. I will be so glad when my kid is out of that. I am burning...everything.


Ah, but if you do a bit of research, his days as a Producer come only after Sesame Street is changed to be more of the Elmo Show.

So, odds are the people in charge decide to change things because of toy sales, then the guy doing the character gets a bone tossed his way.
2012-10-04 10:50:05 AM  
1 votes:
It's not really Elmo's fault. He was a popular character, and the geniuses running Sesame Street decided to rebuild the show around him because they fell into some bullshiat line of thinking that kids have to have long blocks of content spoonfed to them, and that the oldschool Sesame Street variety show way of presenting the show in segments of varying lengths was wrong.
2012-10-04 10:43:29 AM  
1 votes:

Ruca: Solty Dog: F Elmo.

i used to be an elmo hater too, until i had a kid that fell in love with him. now he has really grown on me. everything he does is cute

sprout already syndicates sesame street, maybe they'll pick it up


My brother freaking loved Elmo growing up. My grandmother totally fed into his Elmo love, too, and got him all sorts of Elmo stuff and would watch Elmo with him, and would have him talk about Elmo whenever we went to visit her at work with all the other office ladies. Even now, I still have a strong affinity for Elmo (and can still sing along with the Elmo's World song, last I heard), and my brother is 16.

/Thankfully I never worked at Sesame Place to destroy that affinity...
2012-10-04 10:38:47 AM  
1 votes:
oh elmo i loves ya buddy

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2012-10-04 10:34:48 AM  
1 votes:
HOLY shiat THATS ELMO I LOVE ELMO

i33.photobucket.com
2012-10-04 10:33:27 AM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: F Elmo.


i used to be an elmo hater too, until i had a kid that fell in love with him. now he has really grown on me. everything he does is cute

sprout already syndicates sesame street, maybe they'll pick it up
2012-10-04 10:27:58 AM  
1 votes:
j.wigflip.com
j4x
2012-10-04 10:20:07 AM  
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i2.endoftheinter.net
2012-10-04 10:07:37 AM  
1 votes:
j.wigflip.com
2012-10-04 10:04:27 AM  
1 votes:
Romney and the Democrats won last night. Romney gave better face time but he also pushed liberal agendas for the most part. "Oh, you've reached across the aisle as governor to have democrats push through socialized healthcare? No, that just makes you a liberal, honey".

NTTAWWT.
2012-10-04 09:58:14 AM  
1 votes:

Keigh: i didn't even watch it, and i knew about it immediately due to social media. This morning its everywhere

case in pointMrs.Sharpier: [ image

is that Mike Myers?


ya, that's a somewhat iconic image from a line that kanye made "bush doesn't care about black people" after hurricane Katrina.
2012-10-04 09:49:29 AM  
1 votes:

hurdboy: Solty Dog: Can we offer up Elmo as a sacrifice? Can we just sacrifice Elmo? Cause F Elmo.

[i.huffpost.com image 575x490]


As much as I love the funbags, that shirt ruins it for me. Ruins, I say!
2012-10-04 09:43:37 AM  
1 votes:

Kyro: YO FREE RIDE IS OVAH PBS


With all that was said last night.... Im really thinking Romney might have blew his edge with the Anti-PBS stance.

Everyone says he "won", but that one comment seems to stand out over any policy statements, so who knows, right?
2012-10-04 09:41:29 AM  
1 votes:
YO FREE RIDE IS OVAH PBS
 
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