PallMall: Bender The Offender: I want an "I survived the cock monkey/big bird holocaust" badge.Challenge Accepted...[ytrewq.com image 360x350]
authorizeduser: Relax folks, PBS isn't going to vaporize without public financing. Most of the funding already comes from private organizations... and viewers like you.
Needsun: Mr. Carpenter : Hm, well the vast majority of Americans are okay with paying 1.50/person/year to fund it.PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK./asshat
Mr. Carpenter: Hm, well the vast majority of Americans are okay with paying 1.50/person/year to fund it,
Dr Dreidel: Ilmarinen: Well yes, that's what I gathered from the past weeks. But in a debate with a moderator and everything Obama could have asked for a specification and after Romney's answer say, "so you refuse to give specifics". In front of the whole country.He did. Romney's answer was "I govern from philosophy, because compromise is important and I don't want to get tied down to numbers and have someone use them against me later."He then forgot to add "...and I know, because we've spent an entire campaign misreading your stimulus numbers," and he forgot to finish with a "...and by the way, teabaggers who think compromise is weakness: I just cut you farkers off at the knees. Vote Romney."// is it a pyrrhic victory if the teabaggers are chest-thumping Romney's "win" and not realizing that in doing so, he basically undermined both their raison d'etre and their favorite non-social causes?
GooberMcFly: Holy crap, what happened in 2001 that caused that incredible increase in the debt?
HeadLever: Mr. Carpenter: Hm, well the vast majority of Americans are okay with paying 1.50/person/year to fund it,And that is fine. I have a different opinion that this 'vast majority'. It is not a huge deal to me in any case as this is a pretty small budget item. However, when you have trillion dollar deficits every year, it is time to cut out the fluff.
Needsun: The difference between Conservative Government and a Socialist Government (that of the American Left) when shaken down to its raw essentials will make, or break, the United States of America.The American Democrat Party, which is, in truth, the socialist party, does not see it that way. Actually they do see it that way, but the problem they have is that they cannot exist under a Constitutional government in the US. Freedom and Socialism cannot exist in the same place, much like "Matter" and "Anti-Matter". And therein lies the problem, which is rotting away at the foundation of the United States.Let me see if I can break it down a bit more:Under a Constitutional government, the power of the government is limited. Limited government allows the citizens to rule their country.Under the Socialist brand of government, sometimes called an "Administrative state", citizens do not rule their country, bureaucrats do, and with them the elite intellectuals. At least THEY think they are elite!The United States was founded as a free country. Its citizens were autonomous. They were free. The US had a free economy. That was the way the designers of this land, the Founding Fathers, planned it. And it worked... right up to the dawn of "Socialism in American" during the reign of, and as the direct results of actions taken by, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It has been downhill for America ever since.Socialism is a creeping disease. It is quiet and deadly. It offers much and deliver almost nothing.Simply put, Socialism is a trade off. A people must give up freedom for security. It is just that simple. IF you would be a free people, then you cannot allow socialism, in any form, in your country's government. If, on the other hand, you wish to be secure, from want and fear, then you absolutely MUST give up your freedom. That is the choice.The American Left is the driving force behind socialism in America. Lets be clear: Socialism is anti-American.http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/ ...
HeadLever: However, when you have trillion dollar deficits every year, it is time to cut out the fluff.
Mr. Carpenter: Survey conducted among random sampling of adult Americans. 58% self identified as conservative. 83% said they believe PBS is worthwhile investment, deserves to be funded.
loral: Why PBS and Big Bird does not need government suport:
gaspode: No it is time to change things that will actually make a farking difference.
HeadLever: Keizer_Ghidorah: HeadLever: Citrate1007: Conservatives actually believe that PBS makes children liberal......This one doesn't. However, I also belive that it is not a valid use of my taxpayer dollars.Yeah, why should we spend money educating our children?We do. Public education is something I support. However, last time I looked, having taxpayer money spent on PBS was not required for our kids to become educated. I love PBS and have supported them in the past. Still don't want may taxpayer dollars going to them.
JohnnyApocalypse: So... Republicans are socialists? Patriot Act? War on Terror? Imposing restrictions on travel, routine searches before permitting access, surveillance on communication, etcetera etcetera?
HeadLever: gaspode: No it is time to change things that will actually make a farking difference.And there is no reason not to do both. Cut out the fluff and get serious about DoD, SS, Medicare and taxes. When can we start?
HeadLever: Mr. Carpenter: Survey conducted among random sampling of adult Americans. 58% self identified as conservative. 83% said they believe PBS is worthwhile investment, deserves to be funded.Hey, add me to that list! Where I differ is that I don't want it done with tax money. Like I said, I have personally supported PBS. I can afford it. The government - not so much.
hdhale: AngryPanda: hdhale: You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program!Dur hur, Star Wars.Congratulations you got the reference. However, there was still a point behind the parody.Nightsweat: hdhale: kayanlau: Romney couldn't dent the deficit with the PBS cut. It is a mere 0.012% of budget.You would prefer another target, an entitlement target? Then name the entitlement program! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: *Where* is the money to balance the budget?That's a stumper. Where could it be? Hmmmm.. I wonder[api.ning.com image 403x324]That's not going to balance the budget. It will however leave us vulnerable and will likely cause us to have to spend even more money down the road if you cut too deep because we'll be at war.No, entitlements have to be cut. The problem is no one wants to give up their honey pot, and so PBS becomes a target when it doesn't have to be.
Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't want my money going to the military to invade other countries whenever we get a raging erection for it. That's a far worse use of money than funding educational shows.
HeadLever: And there is no reason not to do both. Cut out the fluff and get serious about DoD, SS, Medicare and taxes. When can we start?
Keizer_Ghidorah: So, what did PBS do to make you hate it so much?
PallMall: Bender The Offender: I want an "I survived the cock monkey/big bird holocaust" badge.Challenge Accepted...
obamadidcoke: Fark ElmoGrover Rules[smollin.com image 398x540]Greatest book ever written.
ZoeNekros: It sounds to me like you think it's worth it,
Lando Lincoln: Just as soon as someone actually sits down and shows us how it can be done.
Lando Lincoln: Many PBS stations aren't. So if you defund PBS then a lot of the stations that feed rural areas are going to close down. A lot of redneck kids are going to have to go without.Is that what you want?
cryinoutloud: Lando Lincoln: Many PBS stations aren't. So if you defund PBS then a lot of the stations that feed rural areas are going to close down. A lot of redneck kids are going to have to go without.Is that what you want?I already lost my PBS station when the digital switchover happened. I live in a "poor" town and don't have cable. The two larger, wealthier towns on both sides of me got their promised upgrade and now have 3 or 4 PBS channels. This is the only place I've ever lived where I can't watch PBS on antenna TV.No point, I just wanted to biatch. But I kind of doubt that PBS is rolling in money.
HeadLever: Keizer_Ghidorah: So, what did PBS do to make you hate it so much?Nothing. I just belive that it should not be funded by our tax dollars, especially in light that our debt is over 100% of GDP.Like I said, I like most of PBS's shows.
Parthenogenetic: fireclown: I'm pretty sure that Sesame Street is profitable. What's the problem?PBS is more than just Sesame Street.If public funding dries up, then contributions from individuals or corporations will have to make up the difference. And that might influence content, so as to avoid offending a large sponsor.Some people would find it unsettling or suspicious if certain people or entities with a high profile political agenda were funding a show like NOVA.
Keigh: Isildur: [i.imgur.com image 850x566]that's amazing. Man i used to love that movie./elmo free, iirc
ProfessorOhki: PBS does a pretty awesome job of putting their shows online, if you weren't aware. Obviously doesn't help the rural areas w/o Internet, but just an FYI for your benefit.
Queue33: Why would you stake out a position in opposition to childhood joy and unconditional love?
Zarquon's Flat Tire: PallMall: Bender The Offender: I want an "I survived the cock monkey/big bird holocaust" badge.Challenge Accepted...Should have had a cock monkey on it.
rewind2846: Queue33:Why would you stake out a position in opposition to childhood joy and unconditional love?Because those two things are useless in the coal mines, weavers' looms, janitorial services and other labor where our children can be better utilized. There is no joy, there is no love, there is only work.So sayeth the NEWT./he probably had no childhood joy or unconditional love//how else does one explain that level of assholiness?
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