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2012-10-04 01:21:54 PM
media.zenfs.com

www.gadailynews.com

Doing a little digging confirms that she is indeed, fat.
 
2012-10-04 01:22:16 PM
So can I now add "bullying" to my list of words that no longer have any meaning?
 
2012-10-04 01:22:47 PM
I believe you have my cupcake.
 
2012-10-04 01:24:19 PM
I'm not one to "bully" someone about their weight, but calling her curvy in TFA is a little ridiculous
 
2012-10-04 01:24:55 PM

someonelse: ChuDogg: We don't let meth heads and heroin addicts broadcast the weather or teach in classrooms?

And if being fat were illegal, you might have something approaching a point. In comparison, we do allow people who smoke, don't exercise, don't wear seatbelts, or have any number of other unhealthy habits teach in classrooms. Because we don't live in a complete nanny state, and the snowflakes will manage to survive these horrors somehow.


A smoker can put their butts out before school or throw on a patch. But a fat person will always be fat.
 
2012-10-04 01:25:46 PM

WhippingBoy: So can I now add "bullying" to my list of words that no longer have any meaning?


As long as you include "politeness."
 
2012-10-04 01:26:05 PM
Without endorsing the use of the term "bullying":

the lawyer in question is clearly one of those people who goes through life hated by most people forced to deal with him. He tells himself this is because they can't handle they way he brings the truth. He is the person Heinlein meant when he said "a skunk is better company than someone who prides himself on being frank." He will likely die alone, and deserve to.
 
2012-10-04 01:26:51 PM

serial_crusher: FishyFred: serial_crusher: Wouldn't it be great if all the insecure women in America had a famous brother who would stick up for them? Man, then nobody would have to accept any personal responsibility for anything.

She did a pretty good job sticking up for herself. This just brings more attention to it.

Not really. She waited for her husband to post about it on Facebook, then she took to the air to whine about how it hurt her precious feewings, and deflect personal responsibility for her problems. She even dismissed her diagnosis of obesity "according to some doctor's chart", as if said doctor isn't a credible expert on the topic.

No part of that counts as a "pretty good job" imho.


How dare she be fat in a public place.
 
2012-10-04 01:26:56 PM

someonelse: ChuDogg: We don't let meth heads and heroin addicts broadcast the weather or teach in classrooms?

And if being fat were illegal, you might have something approaching a point. In comparison, we do allow people who smoke, don't exercise, don't wear seatbelts, or have any number of other unhealthy habits teach in classrooms. Because we don't live in a complete nanny state, and the snowflakes will manage to survive these horrors somehow.


Most schools have a morality clause. If you are a bad role model, even during your off work hours, you can be fired from teaching. So depending where you live smoking, drinking or sleeping around can indeed get you fired from teaching despite not being illegal. Still we don't fire teachers for being fat.... yet.
 
2012-10-04 01:26:58 PM

ChuDogg: someonelse: ChuDogg: We don't let meth heads and heroin addicts broadcast the weather or teach in classrooms?

And if being fat were illegal, you might have something approaching a point. In comparison, we do allow people who smoke, don't exercise, don't wear seatbelts, or have any number of other unhealthy habits teach in classrooms. Because we don't live in a complete nanny state, and the snowflakes will manage to survive these horrors somehow.

A smoker can put their butts out before school or throw on a patch. But a fat person will always be fat.


And children should be shielded from the existence of such people because ...?...
 
2012-10-04 01:27:25 PM
This is what a female news-anchor should look like:

4.bp.blogspot.com 
(hot... but you knew that)
 
2012-10-04 01:27:29 PM
Before that, I had my head smashed into a wall by a bully. A different one punched me for reading a freakin book before class started, and the book torn because "He thought it was funny".


This! In elementary school, I was chased home by switchblade-brandishing teenagers because they were the friends and older brother of a kid who didn't like me because "computer nerds can't wear baggy pants." - we were poor, and they were over-sized because that's what we found at Goodwill. I barely made it across the road through busy traffic and got home. The few times I went outside of the slum we lived in? I played pick-up nerf football, got a touchdown (was a pretty good runner) and then was subdued by a kid who knew martial arts, who choked me out and then sat on top of me and clawed at my face with his fingernails. When an older kid finally pulled him off, I was a bloody mess and had to go to the hospital. Another time, a group of older kids took the steel support polls from a chain-link fence that they had just torn apart and beat me with it because I was playing by myself and I was a loser.

Someone pointing out that you are obese when you are very farking obese isn't bullying.

/not all bullying is physical of course
//daughter in kindergarten is having a hard time with boys who exclude her from any "boy" activities.

fark bullies - but fark fat people who can't admit they're fat, too.
 
2012-10-04 01:27:50 PM

Drew P Balls: OrygunFarker: I've read both the first and now the follow up letter and neither of which call her fat. Is he a pompous douche bag for sending her an email? Yes. Is he a bully? Not a farking chance. No where did he belitte her, berate, slander, or defame her. She has taken it much farther and said he has done things he didn't do. In fact, she kind of seems like the bully to me in this situation.

For someone as unhealthy as she appears, she certainly does have thin skin.

To be fair, it is trying to contain a very large biomass.


So, membrane?
 
2012-10-04 01:27:55 PM
So, the evil viewer in question used the word obese? Well, guess what, obese is a medical term defined as having a BMI of 30 or above. Guess what, she clearly does, unless she is wearing a king sized pillow under those jackets.

If someone calls the sky blue, are they bullying the sky?
 
2012-10-04 01:28:02 PM
As usual, South Park addressed it last night.
 
2012-10-04 01:29:45 PM
The only reason someone should have legs that big is if they regularly squat 400lb+.
 
2012-10-04 01:30:08 PM
I think this is a little offensive to REAL victims of bullying
 
2012-10-04 01:30:16 PM

justtray: As usual, South Park addressed it last night.


It would be interesting to see what side of the argument South Park's creators would come down on. I'm betting they'd think the fact we're talking about it at all is "lowing the bar" and we should all feel bad.
 
2012-10-04 01:31:10 PM

someonelse: ChuDogg: someonelse: ChuDogg: We don't let meth heads and heroin addicts broadcast the weather or teach in classrooms?

And if being fat were illegal, you might have something approaching a point. In comparison, we do allow people who smoke, don't exercise, don't wear seatbelts, or have any number of other unhealthy habits teach in classrooms. Because we don't live in a complete nanny state, and the snowflakes will manage to survive these horrors somehow.

A smoker can put their butts out before school or throw on a patch. But a fat person will always be fat.

And children should be shielded from the existence of such people because ...?...


... they are poor role models. By definition their very existence is saying that poor self control is OK. Having no discipline is OK. Burdening society with outrageous health care costs that affect everybody is OK.

I don't want my children being exposed to these things as being OK. Im not asking to do it for me, just think of what are children are being exposed to and ask yourself "is THAT OK?"
 
2012-10-04 01:32:06 PM

Ken at Popehat: Without endorsing the use of the term "bullying":

the lawyer in question is clearly one of those people who goes through life hated by most people forced to deal with him. He tells himself this is because they can't handle they way he brings the truth. He is the person Heinlein meant when he said "a skunk is better company than someone who prides himself on being frank." He will likely die alone, and deserve to.


He's like the reformed smoker or fanatic vegetarian. Or that guy who follows the severely reduced calorie diet and can't have a conversation without enumerating the calories in what he's eaten today. I'm not even sure he meant to attack her, although it's very possible that he simply wanted to make himself feel better by making someone else feel bad. But it's possible that he's simply a monotonous bore without any kind of inner filter.
 
2012-10-04 01:33:19 PM

Carth: justtray: As usual, South Park addressed it last night.

It would be interesting to see what side of the argument South Park's creators would come down on. I'm betting they'd think the fact we're talking about it at all is "lowing the bar" and we should all feel bad.


I was waiting to see if they would slip it in at the last minute. Alas, Trey and Matt are too interested in winning Tony awards than being cutting-edge up to date.
 
2012-10-04 01:33:40 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: The problem is that it was written in the first place. There are some things that should be kept to ones self. Statements about the weight of another person, especially one that you don't personally know, included


I would agree if she wasn't a public figure.
 
2012-10-04 01:37:56 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: hdhale: [media4.onsugar.com image 240x240]

Would hit it.

But whoever picked out that jacket for her isn't doing her any favors. She's swimming in it, and it isn't making her look thinner.

That was my feeling when I saw that jacket. I'm guessing she probably dresses that way a lot.
She's big (nice term for fat) and she's not comfortable with being big. That's why she wears baggy clothes.
Mr Attorney just hit an exposed nerve with his private email to her.
She needs to grow the hell up.


Big women on TV (and these days that's size 14+, not a big as you think) are able to find work and be successful because they are comfortable with who they are and how they look. If she isn't...that's a major problem.
 
2012-10-04 01:39:29 PM

hdhale: [media4.onsugar.com image 240x240]

Would hit it.

But whoever picked out that jacket for her isn't doing her any favors. She's swimming in it, and it isn't making her look thinner.


You realize Lumberg f*cked her, right?
 
2012-10-04 01:39:49 PM
Someone just didn't smile at me in the elevator!

BULLY!!!
 
2012-10-04 01:39:51 PM

liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: The problem is that it was written in the first place. There are some things that should be kept to ones self. Statements about the weight of another person, especially one that you don't personally know, included

I would agree if she wasn't a public figure.


Also, he sent it to her. He didn't do it in front of people, did he? It wasn't public ridicule. She made it public.

"I know I'm fat" === "It's OK that I am fat" because, as he pointed out, her condition has not improved. Admitting your fat doesn't count when you don't follow it up with an intent to fix it. It's not healthy. It's not a "choice" any more than doing drugs or abusing alcohol is.

It's not OK to be fat. Fat isn't part of LGBT or any other "equality" that needs to be accepted to move forward socially. There are real, evident health risks and a burden to society involved with being as fat as she is, not to mention the only way she got that fat was by over-consumption.
 
2012-10-04 01:40:31 PM

hdhale: Big women on TV (and these days that's size 14+, not a big as you think) are able to find work and be successful because they are comfortable with who they are and how they look. If she isn't...that's a major problem.


You spelled "Fat" wrong...
 
2012-10-04 01:41:21 PM

stampylives: So, the evil viewer in question used the word obese? Well, guess what, obese is a medical term defined as having a BMI of 30 or above. Guess what, she clearly does, unless she is wearing a king sized pillow under those jackets.

If someone calls the sky blue, are they bullying the sky?


Whatever, you don't know the sky, you don't even watch it regularly
 
2012-10-04 01:41:39 PM
Ken at Popehat Smartest
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2012-10-04 01:26:05 PM


Without endorsing the use of the term "bullying":

the lawyer in question is clearly one of those people who goes through life hated by most people forced to deal with him. He tells himself this is because they can't handle they way he brings the truth. He is the person Heinlein meant when he said "a skunk is better company than someone who prides himself on being frank." He will likely die alone, and deserve to


You said some extremely mean things about him. You don't even know him.
You're a bully.
STOP IT!
 
2012-10-04 01:43:03 PM

Amurica...Fark Ya!: someonelse: soupafi: But he just raised a good point I don't see him being a bully.

The next fat person you see, you should approach them and raise that good point. I'm sure they could benefit from your wisdom. It's totally normal to go around telling strangers what their personal failings are. It's not weird or creepy at all. We should totally be defending this guy's behavior, since it's so normal and helpful.

Hey asstard,

Most people are not TV personalities, perhaps she should switch to radio.


liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: The problem is that it was written in the first place. There are some things that should be kept to ones self. Statements about the weight of another person, especially one that you don't personally know, included

I would agree if she wasn't a public figure.


Are you guys seriously arguing that because she's a news anchor, her weight trumps her competence ?
 
2012-10-04 01:43:32 PM

ChuDogg: ... they are poor role models.


So, you don't want any fat teachers. OK. Did you want that codified into law? Do you think it should be federal or on a state by state basis? How do you want to determine the cutoff? BMI, or something else? Should it be at the discretion of the school board? What if a teacher starts out thin, then gets fat? Should we give him/her a set amount of time to reverse the pattern before firing them? What about sedentary teachers who are thin but have high cholesterol or triglycerides? Should that be considered at all, even though they are not visibly fat? What if a teacher is not fat, but has admitted to his/her classroom that he/she doesn't get enough exercise? And we haven't even touched on the non-teaching professions yet, like this news anchor's position. She's in the public eye, but she's not specifically dealing with children. Should she be fired because she's setting a bad example? What about fat doctors, nurses, crossing guards, librarians, food service workers, bus drivers, and so on? They are all in the public eye and deal with children. My gosh, what about department store Santas? That's the ultimate role model for children, and he shakes when he laughs like a bowlful of jelly! This must be a danger.

/or maybe we could just get over it
 
2012-10-04 01:44:05 PM

semiotix: She's a local TV anchor. By definition, she's attention-whoring at at least a Class-A level.


Oh, look. Another asshole.
 
2012-10-04 01:45:12 PM

Dwight Schrute: hdhale: [media4.onsugar.com image 240x240]

Would hit it.

But whoever picked out that jacket for her isn't doing her any favors. She's swimming in it, and it isn't making her look thinner.

You realize Lumberg f*cked her, right?


You realize that Lumberg isn't real, right?

If the actor who played Lumberg farked her, good for him. She's not a whore, so that in no way affects her hittability rating.
 
2012-10-04 01:45:33 PM

capt.hollister: Amurica...Fark Ya!: someonelse: soupafi: But he just raised a good point I don't see him being a bully.

The next fat person you see, you should approach them and raise that good point. I'm sure they could benefit from your wisdom. It's totally normal to go around telling strangers what their personal failings are. It's not weird or creepy at all. We should totally be defending this guy's behavior, since it's so normal and helpful.

Hey asstard,

Most people are not TV personalities, perhaps she should switch to radio.

liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: The problem is that it was written in the first place. There are some things that should be kept to ones self. Statements about the weight of another person, especially one that you don't personally know, included

I would agree if she wasn't a public figure.

Are you guys seriously arguing that because she's a news anchor, her weight trumps her competence ?


I thought they were arguing about whether or not it's okay to be critical of her image because she put herself into the line of fire (TV)
 
2012-10-04 01:46:06 PM

someonelse: ChuDogg: ... they are poor role models.

So, you don't want any fat teachers. OK. Did you want that codified into law? Do you think it should be federal or on a state by state basis? How do you want to determine the cutoff? BMI, or something else? Should it be at the discretion of the school board? What if a teacher starts out thin, then gets fat? Should we give him/her a set amount of time to reverse the pattern before firing them? What about sedentary teachers who are thin but have high cholesterol or triglycerides? Should that be considered at all, even though they are not visibly fat? What if a teacher is not fat, but has admitted to his/her classroom that he/she doesn't get enough exercise? And we haven't even touched on the non-teaching professions yet, like this news anchor's position. She's in the public eye, but she's not specifically dealing with children. Should she be fired because she's setting a bad example? What about fat doctors, nurses, crossing guards, librarians, food service workers, bus drivers, and so on? They are all in the public eye and deal with children. My gosh, what about department store Santas? That's the ultimate role model for children, and he shakes when he laughs like a bowlful of jelly! This must be a danger.

/or maybe we could just get over it


No.
 
2012-10-04 01:46:25 PM

capt.hollister: Are you guys seriously arguing that because she's a news anchor, her weight trumps her competence ?


Only men are judged by their abilities. Women are judged exclusively on how horny they make us. Every knuckle-dragging troglodyte knows that.
 
2012-10-04 01:47:02 PM

Grapple: I prefer the term "Rubenesque"



How many reubens did she eat? 
 
/Sorry...it was there.  I had to take the shot.
 
2012-10-04 01:47:58 PM

Ed Grubermann: semiotix: She's a local TV anchor. By definition, she's attention-whoring at at least a Class-A level.

Oh, look. Another asshole.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-04 01:48:35 PM

Ed Grubermann: capt.hollister: Are you guys seriously arguing that because she's a news anchor, her weight trumps her competence ?

Only men are judged by their abilities. Women are judged exclusively on how horny they make us. Every knuckle-dragging troglodyte knows that.


That is why he said "especially girls"
 
2012-10-04 01:49:00 PM

hdhale: [media4.onsugar.com image 240x240]

Would hit it.

But whoever picked out that jacket for her isn't doing her any favors. She's swimming in it, and it isn't making her look thinner.


you sound fat
 
2012-10-04 01:49:24 PM

Mazzic518: Wow..... lots of assholes in this thread


farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2012-10-04 01:51:40 PM
Honestly, I hadn't paid much attention to this story.  But seems to me if you are going into news reading, you probably know that appearance is going to be pretty important.  That said, she overcame that bias like very few do.  That's impressive. 
 
And for America, she's not fat...just above average sized.
 
2012-10-04 01:51:52 PM

someonelse: ChuDogg: ... they are poor role models.

So, you don't want any fat teachers. OK. Did you want that codified into law? Do you think it should be federal or on a state by state basis? How do you want to determine the cutoff? BMI, or something else? Should it be at the discretion of the school board? What if a teacher starts out thin, then gets fat? Should we give him/her a set amount of time to reverse the pattern before firing them? What about sedentary teachers who are thin but have high cholesterol or triglycerides? Should that be considered at all, even though they are not visibly fat? What if a teacher is not fat, but has admitted to his/her classroom that he/she doesn't get enough exercise? And we haven't even touched on the non-teaching professions yet, like this news anchor's position. She's in the public eye, but she's not specifically dealing with children. Should she be fired because she's setting a bad example? What about fat doctors, nurses, crossing guards, librarians, food service workers, bus drivers, and so on? They are all in the public eye and deal with children. My gosh, what about department store Santas? That's the ultimate role model for children, and he shakes when he laughs like a bowlful of jelly! This must be a danger.

/or maybe we could just get over it


Obfuscating the issue with hypotheticals and hyperbole isn't clever. It's apologizing for poor behavior. It isn't hard to understand that Obese people need rehabilitation and those that are close to them should organize an intervention. It's not like finding out somebody was abusing alcohol brings up volumes of problematic scenarios. No you just tell them to get help and fire them if they don't.

It's not like we have a shortage of applicants or anything.
 
2012-10-04 01:51:55 PM

daveinsurgent: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: The problem is that it was written in the first place. There are some things that should be kept to ones self. Statements about the weight of another person, especially one that you don't personally know, included

I would agree if she wasn't a public figure.

Also, he sent it to her. He didn't do it in front of people, did he? It wasn't public ridicule. She made it public.

"I know I'm fat" === "It's OK that I am fat" because, as he pointed out, her condition has not improved. Admitting your fat doesn't count when you don't follow it up with an intent to fix it. It's not healthy. It's not a "choice" any more than doing drugs or abusing alcohol is.

It's not OK to be fat. Fat isn't part of LGBT or any other "equality" that needs to be accepted to move forward socially. There are real, evident health risks and a burden to society involved with being as fat as she is, not to mention the only way she got that fat was by over-consumption.


It's not OK only if it puts a burden on others. If the comments in FTA are correct, she's actually quite fit. You do know that it is not impossible to be fat and fit, right ? obviously, most obese people are not fit, but some are. Likewise, most normal-weight people are not all that fit, either.

It is also possible to gain lots of hard to lose weight by having a malfunctionning thyroid gland which, again according to the comments in FTA, is exactly her case...
 
2012-10-04 01:52:37 PM
Seriously? We're doing a thread about weather girls without examples of attractive weather girls? Let me get that started for you.

www.tvcapshd.com

www.chud.com

www.dirt.com

img2.bdbphotos.com

kttv.images.worldnow.com

sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-04 01:53:24 PM

capt.hollister: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: The problem is that it was written in the first place. There are some things that should be kept to ones self. Statements about the weight of another person, especially one that you don't personally know, included

I would agree if she wasn't a public figure.

Are you guys seriously arguing that because she's a news anchor, her weight trumps her competence?


Are you seriously arguing that I said anything about competence?

/I didn't.
 
2012-10-04 01:53:28 PM
daveinsurgent:
It's not OK to be fat.
Bullshiat.

Fat isn't part of LGBT or any other "equality" that needs to be accepted to move forward socially.
So that makes it fair game to hate people for their weight? You sound like an asshole.

There are real, evident health risks and a burden to society involved with being as fat as she is
As there are regarding people who engage in a great many activities that we do not marginalize people for. But, hey, fark fat people. right?

not to mention the only way she got that fat was by over-consumption.
And? Everyone over-consumes resources. Even you.

Splinter. Beam. Eye.
 
2012-10-04 01:54:04 PM
Also, she'd never have gotten an on air job at a Spanish-speaking news station.
 
2012-10-04 01:54:27 PM

FishyFred: meat0918: I've been bullied. I've also been criticized. I know the freaking difference.

What do you call criticism about something that's none of your goddamn business and doesn't affect you at all?


Criticism
 
2012-10-04 01:54:42 PM
She looks like she's got some nice cans. Nothing worse than a flat-chested fat chick.
 
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