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2012-10-04 02:12:35 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: RockChalkH1N1: HellRaisingHoosier: Ha ha!

Ok, lets say he "won" the debate (lol). Romney ain't winning the Presidency.

If anyone would like to put money on it, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

How do you assume that?


Mitt Romney would need to pick up ALL the States that Sen. McCain won in 2008, as well as flip:

-North Carolina
-Florida
-Ohio
-Colorado
-Nevada
-Virginia
-Iowa-
-Indiana
-Ohio
-Colorado
-Nevada

Almost all of which are polling safely .... AND Florida is leaning towards Obama.


It's farking over already!
The only fight left is the U.S. Senate and whether or not the Democrats can hold it.



lol I counted a few of those twice.... my bad
 
2012-10-04 02:19:35 PM
My two cents...

Last nights debate was exceedingly similar to the first debate between Obama and McCain. McCain made many claims Obama simply ignored then went on to speak policy, rebutted a few then went back to policy. I remember many Obama supporters being disappointed in Obama's performance with McCain in round one....just like last night.

This is only round one of three. It's highly possible (considering the history of the Obama camps strategies and tactics) that this is indeed an underlying strategy of the Obama camp. And if it is it's a great one imo. Let Mitt say what he want's, make the claims he want's and blow his load all in round one. Round one is over there aren't a lot of folks focusing on Obama due to the fact he pretty much recited his same policies while Romney made more claims, spent more time talking (on topic and off), and insisted on having the last word each time. Romney tried and succeed in owning the debate last night. If there is one thing Obama did right last night it was to let Mitt continue on and on because now Romney owns that debate for the next twelve days.

Now comes the scrutiny from the Press/Fact Checkers and they are going to target Romney more than Obama due to him speaking so much and above mention reasons. This wouldn't be such a bad thing as Romney is getting free coverage. The problem is Romney flat out lied several times, couldn't or wouldn't cite examples, denied his own policy and provided examples like his NFIB reference that simply weren't accurate. Unfortunately for the Romney camp they are going to spend a lot of time and energy defending, defining and clarifying. Romney doesn't want to be on the defense right now and now he has no choice in the matter. That leaves a lot of room for more mistakes, inaccurate/false claims, inaccurate statements and so on.

Considering Obama didn't strike on topics like the "716 billion in medicare gutting", the "47%" issue and several others he still has them as ammo to stock pile with what ever comes out in the next 10-12 days. And surprise, surprise, everything Obama got to stock pile is on the table for the next debate.

Like him or not, Obama & Co are articulate, intelligent and highly strategic. Obama may have just "rope-a-doped" Romney. It's the fight you need to win, not the round.
 
2012-10-04 02:20:37 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: RockChalkH1N1: HellRaisingHoosier: Ha ha!

Ok, lets say he "won" the debate (lol). Romney ain't winning the Presidency.

If anyone would like to put money on it, I'd be more than happy to oblige.

How do you assume that?


Mitt Romney would need to pick up ALL the States that Sen. McCain won in 2008, as well as flip:

-North Carolina
-Florida
-Ohio
-Colorado
-Nevada
-Virginia
-Iowa-
-Indiana
-Ohio
-Colorado
-Nevada

Almost all of which are polling safely .... AND Florida is leaning towards Obama.


It's farking over already!
The only fight left is the U.S. Senate and whether or not the Democrats can hold it.


You can put money on it at intrade. Right now $6.60 will get you $10
 
2012-10-04 02:21:52 PM
I hate to rain on Mitt's parade, but I think it's worth explaining why I'm still an undecided voter.

The only cut Romney acknowledged he'll make last night was for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

But the Corporation for Public Broadcasting only got $445 million in federal funding last year. Not even a half a billion dollars.

We could cut the Corporation for Public Broadcasting 2000 times, and still not balance the budget.

So Mitt's arithmetic still isn't adding up. He wants to cut taxes (but in a revenue neutral way), close loopholes (but he won't say which ones, and all of the loopholes combined don't add up to the amount of his tax tus), and raise military spending. And he claims he'll cut the deficit.

I'm sorry, but at this I just don't believe this man will be any different than Reagan or Bush Jr., who started us on this long downward fiscal spiral.
 
2012-10-04 02:26:46 PM

nyseattitude: This is only round one of three. It's highly possible (considering the history of the Obama camps strategies and tactics) that this is indeed an underlying strategy of the Obama camp. And if it is it's a great one imo.


No candidate ever wants to lose a debate this badly. If Obama could have debated Romney to a draw last night, he would have all but ensured Romney's defeat.

That being said, last night's debate does change the expectations game for debate performance, which now strongly favors Obama, and disfavors Romney.
 
2012-10-04 02:28:02 PM
As long as Paul Ryan winks at me, and the camera operator gives us a lot of gratuitous shots of his ass, I could care less.
 
2012-10-04 02:31:39 PM
Interesting quote about the debate

"Well, I think the other two accomplishments for [the challenger] last night, to give him his due, is it seems to me going into this debate he had not become a plausible candidate, he had not crossed . . . the acceptability threshold that a challenger needs to cross. And I think he did that last night.

He presented himself as a viable alternative for those who have doubts about [the current administration]. Now, that's not a majority of the country for [the challenger], but it still means that he's in a better position. And I think he also rallied his troops . . . .

But in terms of the fallout for this race, I think you're going to see a little closure but not much. [The President] is still a prohibitive favorite. [The President] held him off last night. To give [the President] his due, he didn't commit any gaffes. He was warm and personable for the most part. He was nervous in the beginning, but I think he came back on better toward the end of the debate."

This is a quote from David Gergen's reaction to the first Reagan-Mondale debate in 1984.
 
2012-10-04 02:32:26 PM

born_yesterday: As long as Paul Ryan winks at me, and the camera operator gives us a lot of gratuitous shots of his ass, I could care less.


What a Paul Ryan gratuitious ass shot might look like:

timeswampland.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-04 02:39:44 PM
Last night's debate is playing out EXACTLY as Obama intended.

Mittens' flapping gums and utter disregard for not only facts, but his own campaign claims, has given enough ammunition for Obama to shred him in the next debate, and in commercials everywhere.
 
2012-10-04 02:43:37 PM
Well I was going to vote for Obama but this debate changed my mind.

Said no one ever.
 
2012-10-04 02:45:12 PM

markie_farkie: Last night's debate is playing out EXACTLY as Obama intended.

Mittens' flapping gums and utter disregard for not only facts, but his own campaign claims, has given enough ammunition for Obama to shred him in the next debate, and in commercials everywhere.


He killed this morning.
 
2012-10-04 02:46:03 PM

James!: Did anyone change their vote?


Well, I was going to vote for Obama like "this". Now I'm going to vote for Obama like "THIS"
 
2012-10-04 02:47:38 PM
This part from this morning got a very big reaction too:

THE PRESIDENT And when he was asked what he'd actually do to cut the deficit and reduce spending, he said he'd eliminate funding for public television.

AUDIENCE: Booo --

THE PRESIDENT: That was his answer. I mean, thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on Big Bird. (Laughter and applause.) It's about time. We didn't know that Big Bird was driving the federal deficit. (Laughter.) But that's what we heard last night. How about that?

AUDIENCE MEMBER: And Elmo!

THE PRESIDENT: Elmo, too? (Laughter.)
 
2012-10-04 02:59:42 PM

nyseattitude: [img1.fark.net image 54x11]Romney vows public execution of Big Bird, concentration camp for Snuffaluffagus


That's all we need is a weaponized Romney.
 
2012-10-04 03:02:57 PM

mrshowrules: Unfortunately, you loss about 50% of undecided voters 10 words into the suggested Obama's reply. 90% of undecided voters would not have followed your response even though it should be painfully obvious to anyone who isn't completely brain-dead. Plus it sets up Romney for the line "I think I know more about business than you do".


I see your point. I suck at keeping things on a third grade level, and may be deluded in believing that a good orator could keep it understandable.

The Romney comeback is part of the attack. Once he claims superiority, the next part is "Then you can explain it to the voters right now. Go ahead." Romney loses the talking point, because he can't. His whole SB/Middle class rhetoric is stopped for the rest of the debate.

/Personally I felt like Obama was trying to act "Presidential" and not sink to tit-for-tat level. That fails when your opponent is alpha-maleing it.
 
2012-10-04 03:04:07 PM

FlashHarry: when romney said, "of course, i prefer private insurance," i wanted obama to retort, "well, you can afford it; most americans can't." that would've been a great "zinger." but he left it alone. why?


QFT.
 
2012-10-04 03:08:06 PM

thrasherrr: mrshowrules: Unfortunately, you loss about 50% of undecided voters 10 words into the suggested Obama's reply. 90% of undecided voters would not have followed your response even though it should be painfully obvious to anyone who isn't completely brain-dead. Plus it sets up Romney for the line "I think I know more about business than you do".

I see your point. I suck at keeping things on a third grade level, and may be deluded in believing that a good orator could keep it understandable.

The Romney comeback is part of the attack. Once he claims superiority, the next part is "Then you can explain it to the voters right now. Go ahead." Romney loses the talking point, because he can't. His whole SB/Middle class rhetoric is stopped for the rest of the debate.

/Personally I felt like Obama was trying to act "Presidential" and not sink to tit-for-tat level. That fails when your opponent is alpha-maleing it.


Since I posted my reply to you I have changed my mind. Obama should continue to give intelligent answers like the one you suggested. He has no hope of winning a derp fight with Romney so he might as well act intelligent and credible. The debate reaction fades and than you are left with the substance of statements. If he's going to lose, he should do it with dignity. If he wins, he's going to need that credibility going forward.
 
2012-10-04 03:10:14 PM
A black guy ain't been whipped that bad by a white dude since Rodney King.
 
2012-10-04 03:12:47 PM

Poopspasm: I was fascinated by this poll last night (at least, I think it was this one). It looked like people who thought Romney won big were a much larger percentage than those who thought Obama won big, but when you factor in people who thought one of the two narrowly won, it was Obama out in front.

In other words, people who were looking for a dick waving contest thought Romney was on top, but people who listened thoughtfully and judiciously favored Obama.


No, people who listened thoughtfully and judicially understood nothing of substance was said by either party, but that Mittens was a more convincing liar.
 
2012-10-04 03:17:59 PM

wantedbadass: Obama only got one good shot at that strategy with his quip about Mitt's plan being "oops, nevermind."


You know, and "Governor Romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut -- on top of the extension of the Bush tax cuts -- that's another trillion dollars -- and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. That's $8 trillion. How we pay for that, reduce the deficit, and make the investments that we need to make, without dumping those costs onto middle-class Americans, I think is one of the central questions of this campaign."

Obama, IMO, did a good job making the debate about ideas. Romney did a good job making it about bravado. I'm not so cynical as to think that people aren't even remotely interested in the content of the debate, and Romney had *no content whatsoever*. He won the press's contest of "who is more fun to talk about today!!?", but to assume that John Q Public is actually that shallow is ... pretty shiatty.
 
2012-10-04 03:22:37 PM

jso2897: James!: Did anyone change their vote?

I'll be checking 538's Friday polls. We all said that if Romney didn't crap his pants onstage that the MSM would declare him the victor - and that has come to pass. Whether it effects anything that matters remains to be seen.


There are a lot of posts before yours that have that "in total denial about everything" thing going and there are plenty of posts after yours that have the same thing, but you pretty much win the award for summing up all the rambling excuses in one post.

You are out of your ever living mind if you think for even half a second that the media was rushing to declare Romney the winner just like "you predicted". Obama had a melt down and Romney did very well, that's all there is to it. It's not because of the 'bad' moderator, or because the all mighty chosen one was 'confused' by the 'lies'.

I mean listen to yourselves... really... "Obama couldn't handle it because Romney was telling so many lies..."

You're really going to claim that Obama, whom you insist is just so smart, lost... because of that?

Buy a clue, Romney won because he did a better job than Obama and the media will always come to the defense of Obama by the way... So the very idea that they were there to help Romney is just... Wow... You really believe that?
 
2012-10-04 03:26:29 PM

Propain_az: Doc Daneeka: Reposting what I wrote in the Lehrer thread.


Have no idea why people think Romney "won" the debate. He just repeated the same detail-free platitudes that have been the essence of his entire campaign.

-"My plan is to put people back to work."
-"I'm going to cut taxes, renew the Bush tax cuts, increase defense spending, increase Medicare spending, and solve the deficit at the same time - and I'm somehow going to make this work by eliminating some tax deductions and loopholes, but I'm not going to tell you which ones."
-"I'm going to repeal and replace Obamacare, but I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to replace it with. But trust me, I have a plan."
-"I'm going to repeal and replace Dodd-Frank, but I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to replace it with. But trust me, I have a plan."

How can you win a presidential debate in which you don't give any answers or details about what you actually intend to do as president? His one specific policy proposal that I saw (cut funding for PBS) was about as silly and unserious as you can get. Amateur hour.

As far as I'm concerned, last night's debate just confirmed that Romney is the empty suit with no real ideas that we've seen all along. But I guess because he bullied the moderator and managed not to put his foot in his mouth for the first time in weeks, he "won." Whatever.

Let the rage flow.


(shrug) Yeah, "whatever" is really my go-to word whenever I want to signify a mood of white-hot, fulminating rage.

Tard.
 
2012-10-04 03:30:59 PM

Danger Mouse: Without the teleprompter Obama is a bag of hot air. He looked like shiat last night. If Romeny was lying, then why didn't Obama call him on it? why did Obama stand there staring at his hands nodding like a little girl? If Obama was the smartest man in the room, why did he flub the entire debate? What a loser.

What cracks me up is all the libtards in Fark tripping overthemselve to make excuses and dismiss it.

Your emperor has no clothes.


Yeah man. He's dumb as a box of rocks. Romney trounced him and can just walk the rest of the way to the whitehouse.
 
2012-10-04 03:53:51 PM

markie_farkie: f Obama had come out swinging and mopped the floor with Romney right out of the gate, and dropped the "47 Percent" bomb, he'd most likely swing a lot of voters Romney's way, out of sympathy.


markie_farkie: Last night's debate is playing out EXACTLY as Obama intended.


You seem to be possessed of a strange need to view Obama as infallible. It's utterly nonsensical to believe Obama would intentionally allow the dynamic of the race to swing so favorably for Romney.and breathe new life into his campaign.

Obama got beaten in the debate..Yes that's bad but it really doesn't necessitate your attempts to re-write reality to avoid having to accept that fact.
 
2012-10-04 03:56:42 PM

BeesNuts: wantedbadass: Obama only got one good shot at that strategy with his quip about Mitt's plan being "oops, nevermind."

You know, and "Governor Romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut -- on top of the extension of the Bush tax cuts -- that's another trillion dollars -- and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. That's $8 trillion. How we pay for that, reduce the deficit, and make the investments that we need to make, without dumping those costs onto middle-class Americans, I think is one of the central questions of this campaign."

Obama, IMO, did a good job making the debate about ideas. Romney did a good job making it about bravado. I'm not so cynical as to think that people aren't even remotely interested in the content of the debate, and Romney had *no content whatsoever*. He won the press's contest of "who is more fun to talk about today!!?", but to assume that John Q Public is actually that shallow is ... pretty shiatty.


But it isn't wrong, unfortunately.
 
2012-10-04 04:09:20 PM
I keep hearing people say Romney hogged the time.

www.zerohedge.com
 
2012-10-04 04:12:53 PM

Kangaroo_Ralph: I keep hearing people say Romney hogged the time.

[www.zerohedge.com image 415x249]


He didn't hog time. He just didn't let Obama have the last word for the entire length of the debate. Romney insisted on getting the last word on every topic. And then he got to have the last word to close the debates. Obama's discussions were much more meaty and delivered in a pedagogical style.

I think you're going to see a short term boost for Romney followed by fact checking followed by an SNL skit that lambasts the debate followed by no change in the polls.
 
2012-10-04 04:17:07 PM

randomjsa: There are a lot of posts before yours that have that "in total denial about everything" thing going


Speaking of "in total denial about everything"...

There are 8 battleground states. FL, OH, NC, VA, CO, IA, NV and NH. There were 12, but four are pretty much solidly Obama's now.

FL (29 EV's): Obama +2
OH (18 EV's): Obama +7
NC (15 EV's): Romney +1
VA (13 EV's): Obama +2
CO (9 EV's): Obama +3
IA (6 EV's): Obama +4
NV (6 EV's): Obama +5
NH (4 EV's): Obama +9

Obama is sitting at 247 EV's outside of these states.
Romney is sitting at 191 EV's outside of these states.
270 votes wins.

Obama needs 23 votes.
Romney needs 79 votes.

Romney cannot win without winning Florida.

No Republican candidate has ever won while losing Ohio.

Obama could take Ohio and Nevada and call it a day.
 
2012-10-04 04:30:17 PM

Lost Thought 00: JerseyTim: James!: Did anyone change their vote?

I don't think it's about that. Mitt base is now newly energized. There were stories about donors getting cold feet and now they'll come back aboard again. This election isn't going to be about undecideds. It's going to be about turnout. Mitt went a long way last night to helping his election day turnout.

Similarly, I'll bet Obama's donations have completely dried up. He's going to have to spend valuable campaign time doing fundraisers instead


On the contrary, I personally donated to Obama's campaign last night.. because I was like "Oh shiat we're going to need to fight harder"
 
2012-10-04 04:30:26 PM

Amos Quito: vernonFL: I agree that Romney "won" because he seemed like a normal human. Obama didn't seem his best


He was drugged


/it's a conspiracy


Actually, I have no reason to believe Romney was NOT on some sort of medication. No human being can give a fake smile for that long.
 
2012-10-04 04:37:20 PM

FlashHarry: true - although romney threw a lot of hardcore rightist GOP dogma under the bus. he sounded quite "moderate" on taxes and healthcare. of course he was lying, but still - isn't that going to piss off the base?


Does it matter? Its not like diehard republicans are suddenly going to vote for Obama. Mitt Romney is brilliant to realize this.
 
2012-10-04 04:56:10 PM

Cletus C.: Obama didn't seem to give a fark so why should I?


Because you've obviously never given a f*ck?

Source: Every post you've ever written.
 
2012-10-04 05:06:44 PM

coeyagi: Cletus C.: Obama didn't seem to give a fark so why should I?

Because you've obviously never given a f*ck?

Source: Every post you've ever written.


I didn't even need to watch the debate. All I needed to know abut how it went I learned from your post.
 
2012-10-04 05:32:05 PM

nyseattitude: Like him or not, Obama & Co are articulate, intelligent and highly strategic. Obama may have just "rope-a-doped" Romney. It's the fight you need to win, not the round.


The problem with your boxing analogy is you're acting as if it is just a three round contest. Think of the debates as rounds 10-12 of a fifteen round marathon battle. Going into the tenth, Obama was already well up on points with Romney fading but last night Obama left his chin open and got tagged.

To claim that was all part of the strategy is foolish, because the main effect was to give Romney and his supporters renewed hope that they can still land the knockout blow they need.
 
2012-10-04 06:04:25 PM

The Numbers: To claim that was all part of the strategy is foolish, because the main effect was to give Romney and his supporters renewed hope that they can still land the knockout blow they need.


I think Obama played it very conservative last night, because he could afford to. People that think Obama is going to behave the same way in the next two debates aren't very good students of his campaigning history. Americans have the memory capacity of a goldfish, and the only thing that they're going to remember from this debate is that Romney wants to defund PBS and Jim Lehrer doesn't belong being a moderator anymore.
 
2012-10-04 06:21:09 PM

Doc Daneeka: Reposting what I wrote in the Lehrer thread.


Have no idea why people think Romney "won" the debate. He just repeated the same detail-free platitudes that have been the essence of his entire campaign.

-"My plan is to put people back to work."
-"I'm going to cut taxes, renew the Bush tax cuts, increase defense spending, increase Medicare spending, and solve the deficit at the same time - and I'm somehow going to make this work by eliminating some tax deductions and loopholes, but I'm not going to tell you which ones."
-"I'm going to repeal and replace Obamacare, but I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to replace it with. But trust me, I have a plan."
-"I'm going to repeal and replace Dodd-Frank, but I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to replace it with. But trust me, I have a plan."

How can you win a presidential debate in which you don't give any answers or details about what you actually intend to do as president? His one specific policy proposal that I saw (cut funding for PBS) was about as silly and unserious as you can get. Amateur hour.

As far as I'm concerned, last night's debate just confirmed that Romney is the empty suit with no real ideas that we've seen all along. But I guess because he bullied the moderator and managed not to put his foot in his mouth for the first time in weeks, he "won." Whatever.


THIS ^^^

Is the best response you can expect from your typical libtard. You can't handle, nor admit, that your guy simply got his ass handed to him.

/not serious....I agree with you on all counts     
 
2012-10-04 09:45:16 PM

You Cant Explain That: Is the best response you can expect from your typical libtard. You can't handle, nor admit, that your guy simply got his ass handed to him.


This is ironic, considering your name. But define to me why exactly, without using platitudes, why Obama "got his ass handed to him".

He didn't have any gaffes, he didn't get tripped up. He didn't snap, or look at his watch or yawn. Explain it to me, please.
 
2012-10-04 09:46:12 PM

Kangaroo_Ralph: I keep hearing people say Romney hogged the time.


Funny, I haven't heard that straw man once.
 
2012-10-04 11:11:38 PM
Watched the debate, was surprised how well Romney did. I would definitely say, if I knew nothing else, I would have said he won.

Then again, I've been listening to Romney for the past year, and not a single thing came out of his mouth that didn't carry a mental voice-over of "and please don't fact-check this."

The man said a lot of things that sounded really good, but his entire history has been about saying things people want to hear, even if it is in complete contradiction to what he said to a different group of people the day before.
 
2012-10-05 03:21:39 AM

mpirooz: You Cant Explain That: Is the best response you can expect from your typical libtard. You can't handle, nor admit, that your guy simply got his ass handed to him.

This is ironic, considering your name. But define to me why exactly, without using platitudes, why Obama "got his ass handed to him".

He didn't have any gaffes, he didn't get tripped up. He didn't snap, or look at his watch or yawn. Explain it to me, please.


You missed the last line in my post
 
2012-10-05 03:56:57 AM

cman: markie_farkie: 'Winning' the Talking Out Your Ass and Disavowing Everything Spoken on the Campaign Trail categories isn't 'Winning'.

What everyone saw was a glimpse of classic Bain Mitt... The oily, Say Anything guy who relies on his overinflated self-worth and utter lack of integrity to close a deal.

Perception is reality

JFK and Nixon had the first televised Presidential debate. Nixon mopped the floor with JFK, but because of Nixon being ill, JFK was seen as the real winner.

A lot of times it does not matter what is said, just how its said.


Yeah Nixon had a five o'clock shadow and was sweating bullets. Tragically, it's all about perception. Or maybe not tragically - I hate to think what Nixon would have done about missiles in Cuba if he was president. I suspect it may have been nuke first and ask questions later.
 
2012-10-05 04:00:45 AM

Sleeping Monkey: Bush lost his 2004 debates in every way possible, but still got four more years to blame on Obama.


While that may be true, last night's debate made Romney look dynamic and positive in many people's eyes. It makes it just that little bit more likely that Romney can turn things around and win the election. It's not necessary to be the best candidate to win an election - you just have to be perceived to be the best candidate.
 
2012-10-05 04:01:59 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: BooBoo23: Seemed to me that Obama was simply baffled by the amount of bullshiat coming from the other side of the stage.

I don't think that anyone on the Obama campaign ever seriously contemplated that Romney would just ignore reality and substitute his own delusions.


Why not? He's been doing that for his whole campaign so far, and his supporters have been lapping it up.
 
2012-10-05 04:04:36 AM

Lost Thought 00: If Obama gets beaten like a rented mule by a milquetoast idiot like Romney, how can we trust him to back down Putin and China?


Believe me Romney is no milquetoast. He is someone who strapped the family pet to the roof of his car, He is someone who likes firing people. He's a cowboy and I worry that his threat to invade Iran is not just electioneering.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:10 AM

bdub77: I think you're going to see a short term boost for Romney followed by fact checking followed by an SNL skit that lambasts the debate followed by no change in the polls.


ROMNEY WINS!

/Every debate is worse than the last because of this needless "who won" bullshiat.
 
2012-10-05 06:04:46 PM

You Cant Explain That: mpirooz: You Cant Explain That: Is the best response you can expect from your typical libtard. You can't handle, nor admit, that your guy simply got his ass handed to him.

This is ironic, considering your name. But define to me why exactly, without using platitudes, why Obama "got his ass handed to him".

He didn't have any gaffes, he didn't get tripped up. He didn't snap, or look at his watch or yawn. Explain it to me, please.

You missed the last line in my post


Dagnammit. I'm sorry.
 
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