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(Biloxi Sun Herald)   Some ambitious urban farmer planted two football fields worth of weed on Chicago's South Side   (sunherald.com) divider line 137
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2012-10-04 08:30:21 AM
Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine, purchase firearms with their profits and have shown they're willing to use them to protect their business, he said.

"That's where the violence comes in, the competition for the markets," he said.


Yep, sounds like prohibition to me.
 
2012-10-04 08:48:00 AM
Is that going to be enough for Joakim Noah?
 
2012-10-04 08:51:26 AM

Mark Ratner: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine, purchase firearms with their profits and have shown they're willing to use them to protect their business, he said.

"That's where the violence comes in, the competition for the markets," he said.

Yep, sounds like prohibition to me.


"Civilized" corporations have open wars too. They just don't have them here, they have them in the 3rd world.
 
2012-10-04 08:56:19 AM
Marijuana (blah blah) street violence?

Oh for crissake.
Mr.S and I are both voting to legalize this sh*t and neither one of us are pot smokers. Leave them alone and spend the time, money and effort to close down the dangerous people. A meth house can destroy a neighborhood.
 
2012-10-04 09:03:49 AM
Oh man, those look nice. Someone cried when that was cut down.
 
2012-10-04 09:21:22 AM
Is that going to be enough to forget about how much the Cubs suck?
 
2012-10-04 09:32:37 AM
Meanwhile, in the 24 hours it took them to cut all that pot down, the death toll added up like this:
Alcohol: 208 deaths
Marijuana: 0 deaths
 
2012-10-04 09:35:17 AM
its an interesting strategy cotton, lets see how it works out
 
2012-10-04 09:39:13 AM

dahmers love zombie: Meanwhile, in the 24 hours it took them to cut all that pot down, the death toll added up like this:
Alcohol: 208 deaths
Marijuana: 0 deaths


True dat.
 
2012-10-04 09:40:33 AM
2 acres in the middle of the city? When reached for comment the cops were quoted as saying "were not even mad, we're impressed!".
 
2012-10-04 09:40:48 AM

dahmers love zombie: Meanwhile, in the 24 hours it took them to cut all that pot down, the death toll added up like this:
Alcohol: 208 deaths
Marijuana: 0 deaths


looks like prohibition is working
 
2012-10-04 09:41:06 AM
A football field sized crop of weed is worth $10 million !?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-04 09:41:39 AM
I think the article is blaming this on global warming.
 
2012-10-04 09:43:42 AM
Pretty common here out west. If there's public or private land that can hide something with natural geography or a tree line buildup or something else you can bet that someone is going to try to grow marijuana in it. Of course, you get people like the ones in this thread that talk about how marijuana didn't kill anyone and prohibition is bad, but I'm not sure they understand that when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price(like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population), and will still kill people over marijuana.
 
2012-10-04 09:46:05 AM
bhcompy: Which, troll or moron?
 
2012-10-04 09:46:19 AM

ZAZ: I think the article is blaming this on global warming.


Look how far north the growth zone is moving. Pretty soon they'll be growing Mexican ditch weed in Kansas.
 
2012-10-04 09:46:44 AM
I bet it was Leroy Brown.
 
2012-10-04 09:46:51 AM
Dirt weed.
/Use to walk pass a patch in highschool
 
2012-10-04 09:47:22 AM
Cannabis seems to originate from Nepal.
 
2012-10-04 09:47:33 AM
FTFA: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine, purchase firearms with their profits and have shown they're willing to use them to protect their business, he said.


This is why we need to cawkpunch cops on a regular basis.
Pot =/= a narcotic.

/cawkpunches all around to cook county's finest.
 
2012-10-04 09:49:11 AM
What this likely is is a sacrificial grow, intended to keep the cops busy and gratified.
 
2012-10-04 09:49:35 AM

Krymson Tyde: ZAZ: I think the article is blaming this on global warming.

Look how far north the growth zone is moving. Pretty soon they'll be growing Mexican ditch weed in Kansas.


Don't worry -- the kudzu will strangle it and the fire ants will eat it.
 
2012-10-04 09:49:57 AM
When asked how he managed such an undertaking, the grower said, "I learned it from you!!"
 
2012-10-04 09:50:06 AM
Putting aside all the "legalize it" talk...I've never understood the "cut it down NOW" approach. Wouldn't it have made more sense to put the field under surveillance, and catch the grower(s)? Seems that would work better than cutting it all down, and hoping for snitches to provide tips.
 
2012-10-04 09:50:56 AM

vudukungfu: FTFA: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine, purchase firearms with their profits and have shown they're willing to use them to protect their business, he said.


This is why we need to cawkpunch cops on a regular basis.
Pot =/= a narcotic.

/cawkpunches all around to cook county's finest.


anything that slows you down by putting you behind bars is called a narcotic. narcotic literally means "slows you down"
 
2012-10-04 09:51:06 AM
starsmedia.ign.com
Picture of the suspect ?
 
2012-10-04 09:51:14 AM

bhcompy: Pretty common here out west. If there's public or private land that can hide something with natural geography or a tree line buildup or something else you can bet that someone is going to try to grow marijuana in it. Of course, you get people like the ones in this thread that talk about how marijuana didn't kill anyone and prohibition is bad, but I'm not sure they understand that when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price(like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population), and will still kill people over marijuana.


0/10 you suck at this.
 
2012-10-04 09:51:15 AM

bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population


You don't know many pot smokers do you?
 
2012-10-04 09:52:41 AM
This needs to happen more often. Pot growers need to plant that shiat everywhere. Every public park, every roadside ditch, every vacant lot, every courthouse flowerbed. Overwhelm the authorities with so much wild weed that they couldn't possibly destroy all of it.

\Prohibition needs to end
\\Not a pot smoker
 
2012-10-04 09:52:43 AM

iron_city_ap: A football field sized crop of weed is worth $10 million !?


Imagine it it were legal and we grew thousands of acres in this country.
 
2012-10-04 09:53:38 AM
Should have set the whole field on fire and blown it over the city. Might have chilled that murdering out for a moment or two.
 
2012-10-04 09:53:49 AM
10 Million... for 1500 plants.
 
2012-10-04 09:53:53 AM

Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?


I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.
 
2012-10-04 09:55:09 AM
"Some ambitious urban farmer planted two football fields worth of weed on Chicago's South Side"

Again???
 
2012-10-04 09:55:16 AM

bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.


No, they are 44 year old business owners who like what they taste.
 
2012-10-04 09:57:05 AM
Was it worth eleventy billion dollars?
 
2012-10-04 09:57:34 AM

santadog: bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.

No, they are 44 year old business owners who like what they taste.


Hey- Wait a minute!

You're a 44 yo buisness owner!

What could you possibly be telling us? :-P
 
2012-10-04 09:58:17 AM

signaljammer: What this likely is is a sacrificial grow, intended to keep the cops busy and gratified.


That's a nicely tended crop. You don't tend to 1500 plants like that to give it away.
 
2012-10-04 09:59:01 AM

bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.


The pot smokers I know are successful and employed in careers with 6 figure incomes.
 
2012-10-04 10:00:21 AM

iron_city_ap: A football field sized crop of weed is worth $10 million !?


You're obviously not familiar with CopMath™

Here's a quick lesson:

1. Latrell gets caught with one (1) ounce of dirt weed. You take the actual value ($50) and multiply that by 100. So, $50*100 = $5,000. Then, you double that amount because Latrell is a dirty, sub-human negro.. who probably robs and kills people all day. So, $5,000*2 = $10,000. This ensures a long prison sentence for Latrell, and you (the cop) get an award for taking both a filthy criminal and dangerous addictive narcotics off of the street.

2. Shane gets pulled over for his license plate light being out (in broad daylight). He's driving a Hyundai, so he can't be rich, but when you (the cop) smell something, you decide to search Shane's car and find $10,000 in cash. You plant a 2mg Xanax (School Bus/Totem Pole/Whatever the kids call them these days) on his floorboard so you have probable cause to arrest him. Because he is now in custody, you immediately divide the cash by two. So, $10,000/2 = $5,000 (hint: you take the $5k for yourself). When the backup cruiser arrives, you subtract 80% of the remaining $5k to cover your co-workers (other cops). So, $5,000-80% = $1,000. Because the cash was initially found in a Ziploc™ bag, you slap a distribution charge on Shane as well (that will show him). You then get an award for getting a drug peddling criminal and dangerous drug money off of the street. As a bonus, you get to impound his Hyundai, which will be auctioned off to bring in more revenue for your brothers in blue.
 
2012-10-04 10:02:02 AM

Mark Ratner: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine, purchase firearms with their profits and have shown they're willing to use them to protect their business, he said.

"That's where the violence comes in, the competition for the markets," he said.

Yep, sounds like prohibition to me.


.
.
By "Those" are they referring to the police department? There is big money in seizing people's homes and cars.
 
2012-10-04 10:02:19 AM

santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.


Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.
 
2012-10-04 10:02:40 AM
News Update: All 750 plants were logged in and meticulously destroyed.

I was going to say somthing else , but I forget what it was now...
 
2012-10-04 10:02:40 AM

bhcompy: Pretty common here out west. If there's public or private land that can hide something with natural geography or a tree line buildup or something else you can bet that someone is going to try to grow marijuana in it. Of course, you get people like the ones in this thread that talk about how marijuana didn't kill anyone and prohibition is bad, but I'm not sure they understand that when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price(like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population), and will still kill people over marijuana.

 

novelthought.org
 
2012-10-04 10:03:43 AM

Rickenbacker: Putting aside all the "legalize it" talk...I've never understood the "cut it down NOW" approach. Wouldn't it have made more sense to put the field under surveillance, and catch the grower(s)? Seems that would work better than cutting it all down, and hoping for snitches to provide tips.


Duh, the cops are running a protection racket for their drug dealer homeboy. They'd end up catching their co-workers.
 
2012-10-04 10:04:26 AM

Girion47: bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.

The pot smokers I know are successful and employed in careers with 6 figure incomes.


And people with 6 figure incomes make up 5% of the population. These are not the only people nor the majority of people that smoke pot.
 
2012-10-04 10:04:29 AM
How stupid is it that one can be arrested for growing a plant.
 
2012-10-04 10:05:52 AM

bhcompy: Girion47: bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.

The pot smokers I know are successful and employed in careers with 6 figure incomes.

And people with 6 figure incomes make up 5% of the population. These are not the only people nor the majority of people that smoke pot.


You don't know many baby boomers do you?
 
2012-10-04 10:05:59 AM
Dad?
 
2012-10-04 10:08:40 AM

ltdanman44: bhcompy: Pretty common here out west. If there's public or private land that can hide something with natural geography or a tree line buildup or something else you can bet that someone is going to try to grow marijuana in it. Of course, you get people like the ones in this thread that talk about how marijuana didn't kill anyone and prohibition is bad, but I'm not sure they understand that when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price(like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population), and will still kill people over marijuana. 

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The troll in that picture seems to diddle himself a lot...
 
2012-10-04 10:08:48 AM

PallMall: iron_city_ap: A football field sized crop of weed is worth $10 million !?

You're obviously not familiar with CopMath™

Here's a quick lesson:

1. Latrell gets caught with one (1) ounce of dirt weed. You take the actual value ($50) and multiply that by 100. So, $50*100 = $5,000. Then, you double that amount because Latrell is a dirty, sub-human negro.. who probably robs and kills people all day. So, $5,000*2 = $10,000. This ensures a long prison sentence for Latrell, and you (the cop) get an award for taking both a filthy criminal and dangerous addictive narcotics off of the street.

2. Shane gets pulled over for his license plate light being out (in broad daylight). He's driving a Hyundai, so he can't be rich, but when you (the cop) smell something, you decide to search Shane's car and find $10,000 in cash. You plant a 2mg Xanax (School Bus/Totem Pole/Whatever the kids call them these days) on his floorboard so you have probable cause to arrest him. Because he is now in custody, you immediately divide the cash by two. So, $10,000/2 = $5,000 (hint: you take the $5k for yourself). When the backup cruiser arrives, you subtract 80% of the remaining $5k to cover your co-workers (other cops). So, $5,000-80% = $1,000. Because the cash was initially found in a Ziploc™ bag, you slap a distribution charge on Shane as well (that will show him). You then get an award for getting a drug peddling criminal and dangerous drug money off of the street. As a bonus, you get to impound his Hyundai, which will be auctioned off to bring in more revenue for your brothers in blue.


You forgot to carry the 1.
 
2012-10-04 10:10:14 AM

TheEdibleSnuggie: You forgot to carry the 1.


That's in the advanced CopMath™ tutorial.
 
2012-10-04 10:10:19 AM
Locavore.
 
2012-10-04 10:10:38 AM

max_pooper: This needs to happen more often. Pot growers need to plant that shiat everywhere. Every public park, every roadside ditch, every vacant lot, every courthouse flowerbed. Overwhelm the authorities with so much wild weed that they couldn't possibly destroy all of it.

\Prohibition needs to end
\\Not a pot smoker


Johnny Potseed?
 
2012-10-04 10:11:23 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.


A metric fan, eh? I'm guessing you must prefer hectares for these measurements...

Perhaps posting the conversion rate will make it easier for people to shift away from using football fields:

1 football field = 0.535 hectares

1 hectare = 1.86915887850467 football fields
 
2012-10-04 10:16:12 AM
Sam Hurd?
 
2012-10-04 10:17:23 AM

Girion47: bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.

The pot smokers I know are successful and employed in careers with 6 figure incomes.


Ayup.
 
2012-10-04 10:17:58 AM

Rickenbacker: Putting aside all the "legalize it" talk...I've never understood the "cut it down NOW" approach. Wouldn't it have made more sense to put the field under surveillance, and catch the grower(s)? Seems that would work better than cutting it all down, and hoping for snitches to provide tips.


Someone just missed this month's "don't report my grow-op" payment. That's all. If you send him to jail you will never get next month's money.
 
2012-10-04 10:19:11 AM

Leeds: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.

A metric fan, eh? I'm guessing you must prefer hectares for these measurements...

Perhaps posting the conversion rate will make it easier for people to shift away from using football fields:

1 football field = 0.535 hectares

1 hectare = 1.86915887850467 football fields


Is hectare the word for soccer field?
 
2012-10-04 10:19:59 AM

PallMall: TheEdibleSnuggie: You forgot to carry the 1.

That's in the advanced CopMath™ tutorial.


Then that would be CopMath™ v. 2.0 - FBI Edition!
 
2012-10-04 10:21:10 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.



Yes, why would we want to use a measurement that pretty much every American can immediately visualize? We should switch to giving area estimates in hectares immediately!
 
2012-10-04 10:24:29 AM
Hmmm... Chicago is Obama territory...

fc00.deviantart.net

NSFW
 
2012-10-04 10:24:45 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-04 10:25:15 AM
On the next episode of "Boss":

Mayor Kane has a groovy time, maaaaaan.
 
2012-10-04 10:26:25 AM

bhcompy: Pretty common here out west. If there's public or private land that can hide something with natural geography or a tree line buildup or something else you can bet that someone is going to try to grow marijuana in it. Of course, you get people like the ones in this thread that talk about how marijuana didn't kill anyone and prohibition is bad, but I'm not sure they understand that when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price(like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population), and will still kill people over marijuana.


I know really, its like what we have now with those horrible budwieser vs coors turf wars, when will they stop the violence!
 
2012-10-04 10:26:48 AM

AbbeySomeone: Marijuana (blah blah) street violence?

Oh for crissake.
Mr.S and I are both voting to legalize this sh*t and neither one of us are pot smokers. Leave them alone and spend the time, money and effort to close down the dangerous people. A meth house can destroy a neighborhood.


When it explodes!
 
2012-10-04 10:26:53 AM
♪ Well the South side of Chicago
Is the baddest part of town
And if you go down there
You better just beware
Of some smoke named Ditchweed Brown ♪
 
2012-10-04 10:26:56 AM

signaljammer: Cannabis seems to originate from Nepal.


The actual research I have read find it distributed world wide and cultivated/prized by humans for all of recorded history.
Can we just end this nonsense soon?
Put on your Big Boy Pants and FIX YOUR SOCIOPATHIC POLITICIANS.
 
2012-10-04 10:28:30 AM
Administer data warehouses 7-3:30
Out of work at 3:30
Home at 4:00
Let the dogs out 4:01
check house for doggy accidents 4:02
Let the dogs in 4:07
Give treats, meds and food to dogs 4:07.01
Check messages 4:10
check snail mail 4:14
Change out of work clothes 4:17
Burn one 4:20
Get out harmonicas. Try to jam along with Wille and Waylon 4:22
Look at laptop, think about porn. 4:59
Walk dogs instead 5:00
Continue perpetual bathroom remodeling 6:00
Burn anotha? 6:20
Something Netflix something something 7:00
Sleep like a baby without the drooling 10:00

Totally unproductive day.
 
2012-10-04 10:29:28 AM

drjekel_mrhyde
Dirt weed.
/Use to walk pass a patch in highschool


Past. Are you sure you kept going?

jk
 
2012-10-04 10:30:10 AM

Mr.Bobo: Hmmm... Chicago is Obama territory...

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NSFW



The bad thing is by the time it's legal nation wide my wife will be to old to take nudies in a pot field, she's only got about 5 or 10 years left without seeing a nip/tuck guy. :(
Guess I can just ignore that one on my bucket list.
 
2012-10-04 10:30:47 AM

ManateeGag: Is that going to be enough to forget about how much the Cubs suck?


South side = White Sox
 
2012-10-04 10:32:15 AM

rudemix: Should have set the whole field on fire and blown it over the city.


I'm okay with this.
 
2012-10-04 10:33:10 AM

max_pooper: This needs to happen more often. Pot growers need to plant that shiat everywhere. Every public park, every roadside ditch, every vacant lot, every courthouse flowerbed.
\\Not a pot smoker


I never understood why this didn't happen more often. I mean you don't smoke the seeds right? If you plant the seeds in random unused spots some will make it. Hell, if you only get 10% to full maturity it was 10% that took very little effort to produce and you don't have to pay for. If you are not paying for your pot then you are not supporting criminal enterprise. Hell, growing for your own consumption might just be one of the easiest ways to combat the funding of dangerous criminal organizations that currently are responsible for the danger associated with the pot trade.

also,
\Prohibition needs to end
\\Not a pot smoker
\\\Holy cow I'm a liberal 
\\\\If your gonna consume, get a vaporizer
 
2012-10-04 10:33:32 AM
Why don't we just legalize this stuff in California, and send all the stoners there?
 
2012-10-04 10:33:53 AM
i2.kym-cdn.com

/oblig
 
2012-10-04 10:35:55 AM

Krymson Tyde: Look how far north the growth zone is moving. Pretty soon they'll be growing Mexican ditch weed in Kansas.


They've been doing that for at least 40 years. In Eastern Kansas, at least.
 
2012-10-04 10:36:30 AM
I should have used "at least" one or two more times there.
 
2012-10-04 10:37:13 AM

Sybarite: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.


Yes, why would we want to use a measurement that pretty much every American can immediately visualize? We should switch to giving area estimates in hectares immediately!


The funny thing is in Europe they would probably also say two football fields to describe the size also instead of using hectares also.
 
2012-10-04 10:38:31 AM

Ima_Lurker: Leeds: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.

A metric fan, eh? I'm guessing you must prefer hectares for these measurements...

Perhaps posting the conversion rate will make it easier for people to shift away from using football fields:

1 football field = 0.535 hectares

1 hectare = 1.86915887850467 football fields

Is hectare the word for soccer field?


Hectare was the farmers name.
 
2012-10-04 10:40:13 AM

swahnhennessy: I should have used "at least" one or two more times there.


That's the least you can do?
 
2012-10-04 10:44:24 AM
You watch, someone is going to genetically engineer a sub-zero temperature tolerant cannabis plant and NASA will seed Mars. In 10 years a bunch of that CO-2 will be 0-2 and 0-3. Heaven.

It'll be a one way ticket, but meh, we'll miss the coming Apocalypse.
 
2012-10-04 10:44:28 AM
Oh, that guy.
www.worldwidewax.com
 
2012-10-04 10:46:15 AM
If they legalize Marijuana how many Cops, DEA, Prison Guards, Lawyers and other law enforcement types will loose their cushy jobs and hefty retirements let alone the unions political funding? Give the taxpayers a freaking break. We're tired of being financially raped by these people.
 
2012-10-04 10:48:31 AM

bikerbob: If they legalize Marijuana how many Cops, DEA, Prison Guards, Lawyers and other law enforcement types will loose their cushy jobs and hefty retirements let alone the unions political funding? Give the taxpayers a freaking break. We're tired of being financially raped by these people.


Who gives a shiat. I don't want my tax dollars being paid for those thugs to propagate more little shiat-head thugs. I know a few cops kids, just as farking stupid as their parents.
 
2012-10-04 10:52:25 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: You watch, someone is going to genetically engineer a sub-zero temperature tolerant cannabis plant and NASA will seed Mars. In 10 years a bunch of that CO-2 will be 0-2 and 0-3. Heaven.


What a great idea for terraforming Mars. If we find out there's no current life or fragile artifacts of a failed civilization there, we should definitely do that.
 
2012-10-04 10:53:42 AM
i.imgur.com

/love the fact that I can google "taint corn" and this is the first hit
 
2012-10-04 11:03:13 AM
URAPNIS: How stupid is it that one can be arrested for growing a plant.

I should get the death sentence for these habaneros
 
2012-10-04 11:07:57 AM
I'm no expert here, and the picture isn't that great, but that crop doesn't look "just days before harvest" to me.

/maybe I'm just too used to all the pretty pictures that show up here on Fark
//my horticulture skills suck
///even air plants die on me
 
2012-10-04 11:08:55 AM

ultraholland: URAPNIS: How stupid is it that one can be arrested for growing a plant.


I known, right? What's next, jail for drawing a cartoon or making stupid you-tube videos?
 
2012-10-04 11:09:01 AM

bhcompy: when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price


are you smoking bath salts?

once legalized the best price will be from altria (phillip morris) and diageo guinness.

they already have the infrastructure and experience in distributing and securing such products, they will be in the tobacco case right next to the cigs and in the liquor stores behind the counter
 
2012-10-04 11:09:40 AM

santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.


it's cop math.


That works out to $6.7k per plant, because everyone knows you get 2 pounds per plant.
 
2012-10-04 11:12:20 AM

sodomizer: Why don't we just legalize this stuff in California, and send all the stoners there?


because Money!???
 
2012-10-04 11:17:22 AM

drayno76: bikerbob: If
I know a few cops kids, just as farking stupid as their parents.


I know a few non cops kids that are as stupid as their non-cop parents.
AND
I know a few police officers kids who are as normal as their normal parents. In fact, their are a couple of those families that are quite nice people.

Maybe you need to meet more police officers and their families.
 
2012-10-04 11:20:21 AM
Morons. That's obviously just a bunch of feral feminized hemp clones.
 
2012-10-04 11:20:37 AM

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: drayno76: bikerbob: If
I know a few cops kids, just as farking stupid as their parents.

I know a few non cops kids that are as stupid as their non-cop parents.
AND
I know a few police officers kids who are as normal as their normal parents. In fact, their are a couple of those families that are quite nice people.

Maybe you need to meet more police officers and their families.


So are you suggesting that absolute power doesn't always corrupt, or are you just pretending that good cops exist?
 
2012-10-04 11:20:37 AM

swahnhennessy: I should have used "at least" one or two more times there.


At least.
 
2012-10-04 11:20:51 AM
The problem is that the culture of law enforcement is that officers of the law, prosecutors and our so-called "leaders" take any transgression of their precious "rules" personally, and that this are an insult that requires vengeance.

Rather than setting up a system to treat the root cause of problems and to REDUCE HARM, the system is set up to (1) satisfy these rule makers that revenge has been dealt to the perpetrator (the more out-of-proportion the better!) and (2) to perpetuate the situation by preventing treatment of root causes.

Since most people who vote are not critical thinkers, they are perfectly ok with this cave-man attitude. Even though it costs everyone in the long run and is totally inhumane. So we are stuck with it.
 
2012-10-04 11:22:23 AM
Cheech AND Chong - not available for comment. Rumoured to be in mourning...
 
2012-10-04 11:28:09 AM

GAT_00:
"Civilized" corporations have open wars too. They just don't have them here, they have them in the 3rd world.


Exactly. The south side of Chicago.
 
2012-10-04 11:38:52 AM

Lehk: bhcompy: when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price

are you smoking bath salts?

once legalized the best price will be from altria (phillip morris) and diageo guinness.

they already have the infrastructure and experience in distributing and securing such products, they will be in the tobacco case right next to the cigs and in the liquor stores behind the counter


Perhaps, but tobacco takes a lot more preparation. When you grow on public lands, which is rampant in the west, you don't have a lot of the same infrastructure costs, either. I'm sure someone somewhere has done cost projections on this, but I'd be willing to bet that it would be at least competitive for the black market. Plus, you're talking about things like taxes. There's no way that states aren't going to tax it like they do cigarettes(average tax per pack in the US is $1.77), which is something a black market doesn't have to worry about.
 
2012-10-04 11:43:15 AM

bhcompy: Pretty common here out west. If there's public or private land that can hide something with natural geography or a tree line buildup or something else you can bet that someone is going to try to grow marijuana in it. Of course, you get people like the ones in this thread that talk about how marijuana didn't kill anyone and prohibition is bad, but I'm not sure they understand that when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price(like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population), and will still kill people over marijuana.


What, you don't believe in the free market? Wal-Mart has proven that Americans will buy the cheap crap to save a buck. Call it the "Bud Light Principle."
 
2012-10-04 11:44:20 AM

ongbok: Sybarite: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.


Yes, why would we want to use a measurement that pretty much every American can immediately visualize? We should switch to giving area estimates in hectares immediately!

The funny thing is in Europe they would probably also say two football fields to describe the size also instead of using hectares also.



I've read at least one article out of the UK using "size of a football pitch."
 
2012-10-04 12:05:49 PM

Leeds: IAMTHEINTARWEBS: drayno76: bikerbob: If


Maybe you need to meet more police officers and their families.

So are you suggesting that absolute power doesn't always corrupt, or are you just pretending that good cops exist?


I'm suggesting that the sample size of "a few" is too small to derive accurate conclusions about the whole.
 
2012-10-04 12:06:13 PM

bhcompy: Lehk: bhcompy: when it's legal and commercialized the Mexican Mafia is still going to want theirs, still can provide the best price

are you smoking bath salts?

once legalized the best price will be from altria (phillip morris) and diageo guinness.

they already have the infrastructure and experience in distributing and securing such products, they will be in the tobacco case right next to the cigs and in the liquor stores behind the counter

Perhaps, but tobacco takes a lot more preparation. When you grow on public lands, which is rampant in the west, you don't have a lot of the same infrastructure costs, either. I'm sure someone somewhere has done cost projections on this, but I'd be willing to bet that it would be at least competitive for the black market. Plus, you're talking about things like taxes. There's no way that states aren't going to tax it like they do cigarettes(average tax per pack in the US is $1.77), which is something a black market doesn't have to worry about.


Hard liquor is taxed high, too. It's also a fairly easy process to make it at home. Even IF there was any homemade liquor market anywhere around here, I'd rather pay for the legit stuff that is consistent quality and won't land my ass in jail for buying it.
 
2012-10-04 12:07:09 PM

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: Leeds: IAMTHEINTARWEBS: drayno76: bikerbob: If


Maybe you need to meet more police officers and their families.

So are you suggesting that absolute power doesn't always corrupt, or are you just pretending that good cops exist?

I'm suggesting that the sample size of "a few" is too small to derive accurate conclusions about the whole.


Fark hates cops, even the good ones (that apparently don't exist). Get over it.

/son of a retired cop
 
2012-10-04 12:08:30 PM
Really? No one yet? I am disappoint.

www.yourentertainmentcorner.com
 
2012-10-04 12:08:52 PM
So, what do the Federales do after this November? Override the will of the people? Ignore the state laws and still go after large growers? Or do they finally follow the Portugal model? I can't wait for Hemp production to really get going again! Hemp for Victory!
 
2012-10-04 12:15:51 PM

sodomizer: Why don't we just legalize this stuff in California, and send all the stoners there?


Because we are going to try and legalize it here in Colorado. Who wants to live in Cali?

SUMMARY OF THE CANNABIS RE-LEGALIZATION ACT
The Legalize2012.com amendment is called the "Cannabis Re-Legalization Act", and it amends the Colorado Constitution with a new article that re-legalizes cannabis for all uses in Colorado for any citizen 18 years of age and older. It removes all criminal penalties and gives control of cannabis to the people through an independent commission. The goals of this
article are to:
(1) Create a fundamental right to personal cannabis use in Colorado.
(2) Allow personal cannabis use by adults without punishment or discrimination.
(3) Allow commercial cannabis use without restrictions that are onerous or burdensome.
(4) Repeal all criminal statutes and rules that punish or discriminate against the personal and commercial use of cannabis, while leaving other parts of those statutes in effect.
(5) Replace the racist words "marijuana" and "marihuana" with the scientifically-accurate word "cannabis".
(6) Create the Colorado Cannabis Commission to implement this article.
(7) Prohibit the personal and commercial use of cannabis by persons under the age of 18.
(8) Allow existing medical marijuana providers to stay in business.
(9) Require the commercial cannabis industry to self-regulate.
(10) Prohibit the federal government from enforcing federal marijuana laws on Colorado citizens by:
(a) making cannabis a fundamental and absolute right in our Constitution;
(b) requiring the attorney general to file lawsuits against the federal government;
(c) prohibiting state resources from being spent to assist federal marijuana investigations;
(d) providing funding to the commission to, at their discretion, assist Colorado citizens in their legal defense if the federal government threatens to punish them for violating the provisions of this article;
(e) requiring the attorney general to notify the federal government that cannabis needs to be removed from the federal schedule of controlled substances; and
(f) protecting a citizen's right against self-incrimination in federal marijuana crimes as guaranteed by section 18 of article II of this constitution and the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
(11) Require a 2% sales tax on cannabis to fund the commission, require any other tax to be approved by voters, and limit total taxes on cannabis to a maximum of 10%.
(12) Require and authorize the governor, attorney general, general assembly and state agencies to implement this article.
(13) Investigate, impeach or remove from office any state official that does not uphold and enforce this article.
(14) Allow only the use of evidence-based performance tests to be used to determine impairment by cannabis.
(15) Create an affirmative defense to cannabis prosecutions.
 
2012-10-04 12:18:15 PM
 
2012-10-04 12:18:29 PM

santadog: sodomizer: Why don't we just legalize this stuff in California, and send all the stoners there?

Because we are going to try and legalize it here in Colorado. Who wants to live in Cali?

SUMMARY OF THE CANNABIS RE-LEGALIZATION ACT
The Legalize2012.com amendment is called the "Cannabis Re-Legalization Act", and it amends the Colorado Constitution with a new article that re-legalizes cannabis for all uses in Colorado for any citizen 18 years of age and older. It removes all criminal penalties and gives control of cannabis to the people through an independent commission. The goals of this
article are to:
(1) Create a fundamental right to personal cannabis use in Colorado.
(2) Allow personal cannabis use by adults without punishment or discrimination.
(3) Allow commercial cannabis use without restrictions that are onerous or burdensome.
(4) Repeal all criminal statutes and rules that punish or discriminate against the personal and commercial use of cannabis, while leaving other parts of those statutes in effect.
(5) Replace the racist words "marijuana" and "marihuana" with the scientifically-accurate word "cannabis".
(6) Create the Colorado Cannabis Commission to implement this article.
(7) Prohibit the personal and commercial use of cannabis by persons under the age of 18.
(8) Allow existing medical marijuana providers to stay in business.
(9) Require the commercial cannabis industry to self-regulate.
(10) Prohibit the federal government from enforcing federal marijuana laws on Colorado citizens by:
(a) making cannabis a fundamental and absolute right in our Constitution;
(b) requiring the attorney general to file lawsuits against the federal government;
(c) prohibiting state resources from being spent to assist federal marijuana investigations;
(d) providing funding to the commission to, at their discretion, assist Colorado citizens in their legal defense if the federal government threatens to punish them for violating the provisions of this article;
(e) requiring th ...


Brings a tear to my eye. It's....so beautiful.
 
2012-10-04 12:24:22 PM
Wellp, this will only increase violence in the city.

/gud jerb cops
 
2012-10-04 12:30:50 PM
Santadog:
Re: The Cannabis Re-legalization Act

Thanks!, BRAVO!
Buena Suerte Colorado!
 
2012-10-04 12:32:22 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: The problem is that the culture of law enforcement is that officers of the law, prosecutors and our so-called "leaders" take any transgression of their precious "rules" personally, and that this are an insult that requires vengeance.


This.
Got a ticket for lapsed registration once. The officer seemed actually pissed off and angry at me.
 
2012-10-04 12:48:07 PM

Mark Ratner: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine, purchase firearms with their profits and have shown they're willing to use them to protect their business, he said.

"That's where the violence comes in, the competition for the markets," he said.

Yep, sounds like prohibition to me.


I assumed by "those involved with narcotics" he meant the police.
 
2012-10-04 12:58:12 PM
 
2012-10-04 01:10:45 PM
The War on Drugs "civil forfeiture" provisions have made cops and district attorney offices reliant on thievery, and made a mockery of the US Constitution.

I don't care how anti-drug you are, this is not a fair or reasonable trade.
 
2012-10-04 01:19:39 PM
And people say stoners don't work hard.
 
2012-10-04 01:30:10 PM

tekmo: The War on Drugs "civil forfeiture" provisions have made cops and district attorney offices reliant on thievery, and made a mockery of the US Constitution.

I don't care how anti-drug you are, this is not a fair or reasonable trade.


This "War" has never been concerned with being fair, reasonable, or even legal! It took a very bad ruling by the conservatives on the Supreme Court to allow asset siezures, which goes against the 4th & 5th Amendments. Only upon a guilty verdict should any sort of asset siezures be allowable, and only to the extent that assets were proven to be acquired by illegal activities!
 
2012-10-04 01:31:37 PM
Two words: Johnny Hempseed!

Also, quit planting that shiat in neat rows. How do you think cops spot it from the air?
 
2012-10-04 01:33:48 PM

bhcompy: here's no way that states aren't going to tax it like they do cigarettes(average tax per pack in the US is $1.77), which is something a black market doesn't have to worry about.


$100 will buy you a carton of 200 cigarettes, the black market simply will not support competition with legal production. there is plenty of grey market smuggling from low tax to high tax areas, but that usually happens with indian reservations or state borders.

that same carton, without taxes costs like 20 bucks. assume that the discount must be significant for buyers to risk breaking the law and possessing unstamped packs of MJ. so they need to sell for 50 or less, a profit of $30 per carton, assuming that

a) tobacco companies manage to grow and process wacky tobaccy as efficiently as the regular stuff

b) black merket farmers are able to match that efficiency.

a) is very likely to be true, possibly even more efficient since cannabis is less vulnerable to many parasites and insects.

b) is a giant if, since black market sources are unlikely to be able to hide modern factory farming rigs and hundreds of acres of contiguous irrigated farmland
 
2012-10-04 01:34:37 PM
 
2012-10-04 01:37:20 PM

basemetal: Oh man, those look nice. Someone cried when that was cut down.


ME! I was hoping to get into the area and grab a plant or two. While the entire police force is guarding this...garden...I saw several meth labs on wheels pass by.

And the Chicago gang violence is NOT about weed.
 
2012-10-04 01:40:19 PM

Walker: dahmers love zombie: Meanwhile, in the 24 hours it took them to cut all that pot down, the death toll added up like this:
Alcohol: 208 deaths
Marijuana: 0 deaths

True dat.


Hell, let's make this more Chicago oriented...deaths by Shootings on South Side (over the weekend) = 7.
Number of CHILD deaths last Oct - December (in Chicago) due to big TVs falling on them = 4 (at least).
Marijuana = 0.
 
2012-10-04 01:43:14 PM

max_pooper: This needs to happen more often. Pot growers need to plant that shiat everywhere. Every public park, every roadside ditch, every vacant lot, every courthouse flowerbed. Overwhelm the authorities with so much wild weed that they couldn't possibly destroy all of it.

\Prohibition needs to end
\\Not a pot smoker


I live a bit outside Chicago, have a very private back yard, and just harvested my grow last week. Now curing in glass jars.
 
2012-10-04 01:45:25 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: santadog: 10 Million... for 1500 plants.

Well, to be fair, they DID say "up to 10 million". So, pretty much any dollar amount under that is still accurate.

Also, this is 2012. Can we please stop using the football field as a unit of measurement? It's embarrassing.


I use hockey rinks.
 
2012-10-04 03:03:23 PM

misterpriapus: Two words: Johnny Hempseed!

Also, quit planting that shiat in neat rows. How do you think cops spot it from the air?


It's the greenest green you've ever beheld. Honestly from a few hundred feet, teh ganj sticks out
like blood in snow.
 
2012-10-04 03:44:02 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: misterpriapus: Two words: Johnny Hempseed!

Also, quit planting that shiat in neat rows. How do you think cops spot it from the air?

It's the greenest green you've ever beheld. Honestly from a few hundred feet, teh ganj sticks out
like blood in snow.


It also gives off different heat signatures than the indigenous plants.
 
2012-10-04 03:55:00 PM
i.ytimg.com
Good stuff.
 
2012-10-04 05:40:51 PM
Washington State's I-502, which willl hopefully pass next month takes a nice common sense approach:

NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. The people intend to stop treating adult marijuana use as a crime and try a new approach that:
(1) Allows law enforcement resources to be focused on violent and property crimes;
(2) Generates new state and local tax revenue for education, health care, research, and substance abuse prevention; and
(3) Takes marijuana out of the hands of illegal drug organizations and brings it under a tightly regulated, state-licensed system similar to that for controlling hard alcohol.
This measure authorizes the state liquor control board to regulate and tax marijuana for persons twenty-one years of age and older, and add a new threshold for driving under the influence of marijuana.

Initiative 502
 
2012-10-04 05:56:53 PM

priapic_abandon: Administer data warehouses 7-3:30
Out of work at 3:30
Home at 4:00
Let the dogs out 4:01
check house for doggy accidents 4:02
Let the dogs in 4:07
Give treats, meds and food to dogs 4:07.01
Check messages 4:10
check snail mail 4:14
Change out of work clothes 4:17
Burn one 4:20
Get out harmonicas. Try to jam along with Wille and Waylon 4:22
Look at laptop, think about porn. 4:59
Walk dogs instead 5:00
Continue perpetual bathroom remodeling 6:00
Burn anotha? 6:20
Something Netflix something something 7:00
Sleep like a baby without the drooling 10:00

Totally unproductive day.


i heart u
& not just for the waylon reference
 
2012-10-04 08:10:40 PM

Rickenbacker: Putting aside all the "legalize it" talk...I've never understood the "cut it down NOW" approach. Wouldn't it have made more sense to put the field under surveillance, and catch the grower(s)? Seems that would work better than cutting it all down, and hoping for snitches to provide tips.


FTFA: But police said they were hopeful that because of the size of the operation, informants or others might provide tips about those involved, including a man seen running from the area as the helicopter swooped low.

They knew the jig was up. No one is going to risk going back there after that.
 
2012-10-04 08:22:23 PM

Larva Lump: [home.earthlink.net image 640x655]

Paaaaaaasstures of plenty!


harrold hedd
 
2012-10-04 08:32:44 PM

signaljammer: bhcompy: Which, troll or moron?


Both.
 
2012-10-05 12:23:33 AM

Mark Ratner: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine


right, because pot and cocaine put you to sleep.

/do they even know the definition of 'narcotic'?
 
2012-10-05 12:51:33 AM

urban.derelict: Mark Ratner: Those involved with narcotics, whether it is marijuana, heroin or cocaine

right, because pot and cocaine put you to sleep.

/do they even know the definition of 'narcotic'?


Yea, it means money and votes.
 
2012-10-05 01:27:35 AM

bhcompy: Egoy3k: bhcompy: like beer snobs, pot snobs make up a small percentage of the pot smoking population

You don't know many pot smokers do you?

I know plenty. They're called poor high school and college students.


Ohyou'reseriousletmelaughevenharder.jp eg

There's more high quality weed flowing through upper middle class suburban parent circles than you can imagine. That is, if you only imagine such things.

It's kinda like swinging. Only if you establish a reasonable level of trust with those type of people and give some indication you are ok with it will you see how many of them engage in it.

////There are more pot smokers than swingers though.
 
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