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(Team Coco)   "Who shot first: Han or Greedo?" and other questions that would have been better than Jim Lehrer's   (teamcoco.com) divider line 161
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2012-10-04 10:31:15 AM  
"First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.
 
2012-10-04 11:14:20 AM  
Done in one
 
2012-10-04 11:14:56 AM  
Han
 
2012-10-04 11:15:29 AM  

unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.


You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?
 
2012-10-04 11:16:11 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.

You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?


You mean the THX remastered one, right?
 
2012-10-04 11:17:08 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.

You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?


Even still, Lucas be damned. Han shot first.
 
2012-10-04 11:17:55 AM  
Greedo shot first. Han was a good-guy. Good-guys don't do that.
 
2012-10-04 11:18:10 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?


Those are other films.
 
2012-10-04 11:18:10 AM  
 
2012-10-04 11:19:06 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.

You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?


I have. They look great. But the part where they have Luke driving around in that little Pod car thing seemed strange to me.
 
2012-10-04 11:19:28 AM  
Well that was just stupid. Maybe it would not have seemed so were I 13.
 
2012-10-04 11:19:33 AM  
There was no shooting at all, both men were holding walkie-talkies.
 
2012-10-04 11:19:36 AM  
HA-HA! Your O-Guy sucked so you got nothing left but to go after the moderator....
 
2012-10-04 11:20:59 AM  

macadamnut: SN1987a goes boom: You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?

Those are other films.


This. Remixes don't count.
 
2012-10-04 11:21:30 AM  

Tiberius Gracchus: SN1987a goes boom: unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.

You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?

You mean the THX remastered one, right?


Yeah, although I think the newest verison replaces the entire cast with Ewoks and all the lightsabers with walkie-talkies.
 
2012-10-04 11:22:32 AM  

mark12A: HA-HA! Your O-Guy sucked so you got nothing left but to go after the moderator....


Yeah, next thing these libsters are going to do is compare him to Katie Couric!
 
2012-10-04 11:24:16 AM  
For as much sense as he made last night, those could well have been the questions Obama was answering.
 
2012-10-04 11:29:33 AM  
I'm a big Obama fan, or as much as you would expect a person in rural NS to be, but I was disappointed by his appearance last night. He seemed really tentative; not at all what I was expecting.

That being said, I think these questions are terrific. I would love to see something like this in Jim's lineup. Shake it up a bit.
 
2012-10-04 11:31:50 AM  

Mr. Right: For as much sense as he made last night, those could well have been the questions Obama was answering.


Now, let me be clear, I'm going to focus like a laser on sorting this out. Clearly, this attack was caused randomly, perhaps because of the protest inside the cantina regarding who had death sentences, and on which systems.
 
2012-10-04 11:32:25 AM  

Sass-O-Rev: I'm a big Obama fan, or as much as you would expect a person in rural NS to be, but I was disappointed by his appearance last night. He seemed really tentative; not at all what I was expecting.

That being said, I think these questions are terrific. I would love to see something like this in Jim's lineup. Shake it up a bit.


NS?

Nova Scotia?
 
2012-10-04 11:32:40 AM  

Holocaust Agnostic: Greedo shot first. Han was a good-guy. Good-guys don't do that.


Greedo was a bounty hunter shooting at a stationary target at point blank range. If he shot first, Han would be dead. If he was wounded first, then it's far more plausible that he missed. Shooting first is permissible if someone has a gun on you, else how did Roy Rodgers disarm all those bad guys by shooting the gun out of their hand?

George Lucas would rather re-write old material than write new material for the same characters because he is an anal retentive man who can't get over the fact that his best work was over by the time "Return of the Jedi" was in the can. Fact is, even if he wrote new material for the original set of Star Wars characters (Leia, Han, Luke, the droids, Chewbacca, etc.) it might actually be better...but...then again it might not be, in which case it would hurt sales of the retreads and we can't have that.

End of lecture.
 
2012-10-04 11:33:44 AM  

mark12A: HA-HA! Your O-Guy sucked so you got nothing left but to go after the moderator....


You make me sad.
You've turned a funny little bit into a political jab for your party.
After you talk to people, do you notice them rolling their eyes when they leave?
 
2012-10-04 11:34:08 AM  
I hope that wasn't written by Conan's "A" team writing staff.
 
2012-10-04 11:37:59 AM  
Anyone getting a read yet on how Republican voters responded to the debate? Because Romney said a lot of things last night that would have gotten him burned at the stake in the GOP primary, e.g. "I'm not looking to cut massive taxes;" "the federal government has a role to play in getting local schools to do better."
 
2012-10-04 11:38:56 AM  
Who?

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-04 11:39:18 AM  

hdhale: Holocaust Agnostic: Greedo shot first. Han was a good-guy. Good-guys don't do that.

Greedo was a bounty hunter shooting at a stationary target at point blank range. If he shot first, Han would be dead. If he was wounded first, then it's far more plausible that he missed. Shooting first is permissible if someone has a gun on you, else how did Roy Rodgers disarm all those bad guys by shooting the gun out of their hand?

George Lucas would rather re-write old material than write new material for the same characters because he is an anal retentive man who can't get over the fact that his best work was over by the time "Return of the Jedi" was in the can. Fact is, even if he wrote new material for the original set of Star Wars characters (Leia, Han, Luke, the droids, Chewbacca, etc.) it might actually be better...but...then again it might not be, in which case it would hurt sales of the retreads and we can't have that.

End of lecture.


You're assuming Greedo's sensory perception was within human parameters. Did you see those big-ass fish eyes? For all we know, he was looking at the floor and the wall next to him while he was talking. The shot he fired first that hit the wall three feet from Han could have been the greatest warning trick shot he ever pulled off.
 
2012-10-04 11:39:59 AM  

Biness: Sass-O-Rev: I'm a big Obama fan, or as much as you would expect a person in rural NS to be, but I was disappointed by his appearance last night. He seemed really tentative; not at all what I was expecting.

That being said, I think these questions are terrific. I would love to see something like this in Jim's lineup. Shake it up a bit.

NS?

Nova Scotia?


Yes.
 
2012-10-04 11:40:28 AM  

Zombie DJ: mark12A: HA-HA! Your O-Guy sucked so you got nothing left but to go after the moderator....

You make me sad.
You've turned a funny little bit into a political jab for your party.
After you talk to people, do you notice them rolling their eyes when they leave?


He tells himself that they're weeping.
 
2012-10-04 11:41:12 AM  
So this is really the DNC's (and its operatives) spin? The moderator sucked?

HAH!
 
2012-10-04 11:46:12 AM  
Obama is an unmitigated disaster without his precious teleprompter, and Romney destroyed him last night.

Quick! Blame the moderator!
 
2012-10-04 11:47:24 AM  

MilesTeg: So this is really the DNC's (and its operatives) spin? The moderator sucked?

HAH!


That and altitude

Al Gore Blames Denver for Obama debate loss
 
2012-10-04 11:49:23 AM  
I love the jumping to conclusions that saying the moderator sucks means that Obama did bad. The moderator sucked because he could not control the debate and let both candidates repeat each other for an hour. He didn't press hard enough to serious answers and asked open ended questions.
 
2012-10-04 11:52:01 AM  

Pantubo: Obama is an unmitigated disaster without his precious teleprompter, and Romney destroyed him last night.


You are a racist if you blame Obama.
 
2012-10-04 11:53:24 AM  

peewinkle: Who?

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x282]


Ohhhhh, I thought you said "Lahey." Carry on.
 
2012-10-04 11:53:56 AM  
I've got another one:

Why is a raven like a writing desk?
 
2012-10-04 11:56:42 AM  
The debate format is culturally biased against peopleof color which explans why Obama did not do so well. We need to change the format to a more racially neutral structure.
 
2012-10-04 11:57:31 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: I've got another one:

Why is a raven like a writing desk?


The Patriots defense can't cover either?
 
2012-10-04 11:57:47 AM  

tforbes: SN1987a goes boom: unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.

You haven't seen the newer versions of that film have you?

I have. They look great. But the part where they have Luke driving around in that little Pod car thing seemed strange to me.


"Little Pod car thing?" Don't you know a SoroSuub X-34 Landspeeder when you see one?
 
2012-10-04 12:00:39 PM  
This thread never had a chance.
 
2012-10-04 12:01:27 PM  
This poor performance will just make him look like a god next 2 debates when he comes out swinging, last impression and all that.
 
2012-10-04 12:02:15 PM  

hasty ambush: The debate format is culturally biased against peopleof color which explans why Obama did not do so well. We need to change the format to a more racially neutral structure.


More ebonics?
 
2012-10-04 12:05:24 PM  
Like asking if Leon shot first.

/which desert? why am I there?
 
2012-10-04 12:05:41 PM  

dickfreckle: This thread never had a chance.


Romney has inspired conservatives to post on forums where liberals are not censored. He is truly a job creator.
 
2012-10-04 12:06:20 PM  

Joe Blowme: This poor performance will just make him look like a god next 2 debates when he comes out swinging, last impression and all that.


Hopefully Biden was taking notes. Unlike Obama, Biden doesn't get a do-over if he drops the ball in the debate next week.
 
2012-10-04 12:06:39 PM  
Romney has been preparing for the debates non-stop for a month. Obama has been dealing with international crises. That Obama is off-form for his debate appearances is not surprising.

Debates are worthless media spectacles these days. Once upon a time, you didn't really know where a candidate stands on a given issue - but today, you do, from hundreds of stump speeches, dozens of policy papers, advisor selection, thousands of endorsements from interest groups. The thought that a debate can do anything to improve the electoral process is ludicrous and outdated.
 
2012-10-04 12:07:11 PM  
I don't understand what the big deal is with the "Who shot first?" question.

Why is anyone surprised that a smuggler and outlaw, confronted in the scummiest spaceport in the galaxy by an enforcer for the most notorious gang boss in the galaxy, shot the enforcer?
 
2012-10-04 12:08:32 PM  
Governor Romney, what is the difference between a cyborg and an android?
 
2012-10-04 12:09:18 PM  

qorkfiend: I don't understand what the big deal is with the "Who shot first?" question.

Why is anyone surprised that a smuggler and outlaw, confronted in the scummiest spaceport in the galaxy by an enforcer for the most notorious gang boss in the galaxy, shot the enforcer?


They changed it so the scummy smuggler didn't shoot first, presumably because he's the good guy.
 
2012-10-04 12:13:02 PM  

unlikely: "First" implies a chain of events.
Han didn't shoot _first_ because there were no other shots.
Han shot. Greedo didn't.


I've heard this argument before and it's just plain dumb. Let me give you an example. You and I are sitting on opposite sides of the table. I put down a hundred dollar bill between us and suggest a game. The rules to the game are simple, whoever grabs the Benjamin first gets to keep it.

Now, you're super fast with those hands and get there before I do. Were you "first"?

That's what happens in a shootout. If one guy shoots "first" the other guy doesn't necessarily get a chance, as in this case, to shoot at all.
 
2012-10-04 12:13:55 PM  
There were questions being asked? And responses were given OTHER than Romney's?

Coulda fooled me. All I could hear was Rmoney's machine gun-paced "nuh uh, you" and "I know you are, but what am I?"
 
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