logistic: GAT_00: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.No, Romney won because the President didn't engage.This.[datacenteroverlords.files.wordpress.com image 292x356]I SAID ENGAGE biatch DO YOU NEED A DICTIONARY
Bathia_Mapes: Yeah, good luck with that, Mitt. You said you wanted less government involvement in healthcare, so I guess you won't be forcing any states to do as Massachusetts did.
GAT_00: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.No, Romney won because the President didn't engage.
snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.
unexplained bacon: I suppose Obama wanted to be careful about appearing too combative, but honestly I thought he came off more weak than I've seen before.
manimal2878: I didn't listen to the debates live, but listened to the recap on NPR this morning instead. While claiming Romney won, they kept playing clips that seemed to show the complete opposite. Obama was giving facts and figures, estimates of possible outcomes, etc. Romney was basically giving the equivalent of "read my lips, no new taxes" while still failing to claim how it is possible to do that and keep the services people want and lower the deficit. Not only that when Obama spoke, Romney kept stuttering and making sounds like he could barely keep himself from interrupting.I guess when everyone said as long as Romney didn't shiat himself on stage he would be declared winner they were right, because, at least according to the clips on NPR, he didn't seem to be "winning" to me even thought they claimed he did.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'll admit, Obama had a rough night, even by his own debate standards. He was calm and cool, but left far too much slide unchallenged. Why? I'm not sure...perhaps it's part of a long-ball strategy? 0_oThat said though, watching Romney flail on HCR was hilarious: I'll repeal evil Obamacare, and have all 50 states setup individual Romneycares, which are designed to function just like Obamacare. The feds can't tell insurers what to do, but all 50 states can. you can't force them to cover people, but I did in my own state.And his "rely on the market to decide tooffer coverage" schtick is straight out of the Ron Paul book, imo. Insurance firms are in business to make money, and will not go out of their way to cover people unless incentivized to do so by the government. Romneycare proves that point.
muck4doo: cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: logistic: muck4doo: Quickly Fark! To the TPM machine!Excellent retort. I like it because it was so full of intellect and stuff.Hey, go get those Think Progress links lined up too. Ignore me.So you have no problem with what the link actually says?I don't pay attention to sites I disagree with. That shouldn't be a concept lost on the Fark Lib crowd. I won't even give it a click. :p
MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.No, Romney won because the President didn't engage.THIS^/WTF Obama?//I'm truly baffled
abb3w: Bontesla: Was Obama hoping to juxtapose his calmness to Romney's erratic and rude behavior?Rude? Check the transcripts in the morning, because I got a head start on the drinking game, but my booze-boggled memory is that Obama was the first to interrupt in the other candidate's time segment.Erratic... find a FarkIndepent™ to try finding some defense. I'm still voting for Obama.
Bontesla: Was Obama hoping to juxtapose his calmness to Romney's erratic and rude behavior?
cchris_39: It's interesting to watch the Obama supporters complain that Mitt offers no specifics, then in the next breath tell you specifically how it will hurt you.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Their solution?"We'd like to see states do what Massachusetts did"
RussianPooper: Didn't see the debate, but based on the comments and what we already know, I'm wondering if this isn't just a rope a dope strategy. There are three more debates, this one wasn't the time for a takedown.
James F. Campbell: Why the hell is it that, generally speaking, the earlier someone's user number is, the more conservative (and retarded -- but I repeat myself) they are?
Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to
James F. Campbell: Fair points -- but, friend, if the undecideds were intelligent enough to grasp anything you just said, they wouldn't be undecided.
DubyaHater: Oh boy, when they get desperate, Obama voters seem to cling to current polling numbers and Nate Silver. The election is gonna get fun now! "But.....but......but look, Mr. Silver said POTUS will win by 500 electoral votes! It has to be true. Fivethirtyeight has predicted every election since the Greeks founded democracy"
James F. Campbell: Could you elaborate on this one? I'm not sure what Romney said will be so offensive to moderates.
muck4doo: Keep preaching to the choir waiting for their hope and change? Sounds like an awesome plan.
Z-clipped: I know this might sound strange, but it's going to make them feel like Obama can handle Romney on his own, without any help from the voters. If Democrats see Romney getting away with lying on the podium and looking like he has a chance to turn things around, they're going to be more motivated to make sure he doesn't win.
muck4doo: cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: Do you laugh at people who believe everything Fox News says? You just convinced me you are just like they are. They just report facts, and are not partisan hacks, right? They're just reporting the truth! Right? Please tell me you are not that gullible.Okay, find me some examples if they're that bad.http://www.therightsphere.com/2012/07/think-progress-assault-weapons- b an/http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/296524/thinkprogress-lies-about- c antors-comments-patrick-brennanhttp://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2011/09/09/call-the-wahmbulance-thi n k-progress-lies-claim-bush-taking-credit-for-killing-obl/http://mypoliticalintervention.com/2012/05/15/think-progress-lies/http://www.randpaulreview.com/2012/08/thinkprogress-lies-about-rands- v iews-on-contraception//There are a few, but of course, they aren't Daily Kos approved, so you won't believe it anyways.
MaudlinMutantMollusk: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.And he presented none
logistic: abb3w: but my booze-boggled memory is that Obama was the first to interrupt in the other candidate's time segment.No. While they both behaved like mentally impaired children with respect to moderation, if I recall Romney was the first to openly defy lil Jimmy.
muck4doo: Teufelaffe: muck4doo: Teufelaffe: cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: logistic: muck4doo: Quickly Fark! To the TPM machine!Excellent retort. I like it because it was so full of intellect and stuff.Hey, go get those Think Progress links lined up too. Ignore me.So you have no problem with what the link actually says?I don't pay attention to sites I disagree with. That shouldn't be a concept lost on the Fark Lib crowd. I won't even give it a click. :pEnjoy continuing to be ignorant then. You know damn well the reasons that Townhall et. al. are not worth a click. TPM isn't even in the same galaxy.Everybody starts out ignorant; the true measure of character is seeing who chooses to remain that way.And the way to get out of that is read TPM, Think Progress, Daily Kos, and the rest of the crap you swallow. Got it.You can tell a lot about a person by what they accuse others of./Platitude mode engaged!It's the Fark way. You're not new to the politics tab, are you? Refusing to read any article by an organization that doesn't adhere to your beliefs is the norm here.
deeproy: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Is it just me, or is everybody else's Facebook feed filled with Romney fans getting their hopes up way too high?Oddly enough, the Romney fans on my FB page are eerily quiet. Lots of posts about Big Bird, tho'.
muck4doo: I don't pay attention to sites I disagree with.
NewportBarGuy: Does this mean I have to destroy my mixer... Cause that sh*t ain't happening.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: oh, and telling the moderator that you'd defund his employer and fire him won't win many style points.
abb3w: but my booze-boggled memory is that Obama was the first to interrupt in the other candidate's time segment.
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