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(Talking Points Memo)   And the first fact check of the debate comes from a Romney advisor: No, our healthcare plan will not cover pre-existing conditions at all   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 475
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2012-10-04 05:58:24 AM  
charlestonteaparty.org

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-04 06:01:14 AM  

Silly Jesus:


You beat the hell out of that straw man!
 
2012-10-04 06:02:06 AM  

amiable:
1. It moved the Romney candidacy out of the "complete joke" category and
2. Gave him some momentum.


Qualitatively, I would tend to disagree, but I'm somewhat biased from being relatively politically aware and having the memory of all the gasoline Romney has been splashing on his campaign over the last eight months. I rather suspect you're not unbiased either, so both of our predictions regarding momentum and the seriousness of his candidacy are, probably, useless.

Quantitatively, there will be some new sets of polls over the next couple of days that should pretty much give us the yes or no on both points. If Romney's closed some significant gaps, sure, you win. If none or small gains, he keeps the red honking nose.
 
2012-10-04 06:05:05 AM  

Silly Jesus: [charlestonteaparty.org image 500x400]

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 620x420]


Pretty decent argument in favor of single-payer health care you've posted there, concisely discredits the private insurer model quite thoroughly.

You trying to tell us to vote for the American Communist Party or something?
 
2012-10-04 06:06:11 AM  

Jim_Callahan: amiable:
1. It moved the Romney candidacy out of the "complete joke" category and
2. Gave him some momentum.

Qualitatively, I would tend to disagree, but I'm somewhat biased from being relatively politically aware and having the memory of all the gasoline Romney has been splashing on his campaign over the last eight months. I rather suspect you're not unbiased either, so both of our predictions regarding momentum and the seriousness of his candidacy are, probably, useless.

Quantitatively, there will be some new sets of polls over the next couple of days that should pretty much give us the yes or no on both points. If Romney's closed some significant gaps, sure, you win. If none or small gains, he keeps the red honking nose.


I agree with this, you really can't say anything for certain until there is more data. I would imagine where the polling is next Wednesday would be much more informative.
 
2012-10-04 06:08:34 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Is it just me, or is everybody else's Facebook feed filled with Romney fans getting their hopes up way too high?


I went to high school with a guy whose great great grandfather made a killing in the condiment business. He is dumb and slightly annoying and hasn't worked a day in his life. He spends all his time on the golf course. He got really excited about the "trickle down government" remark.
 
2012-10-04 06:12:10 AM  

muck4doo: Didn't realize I said all the things you wish I said. But let's play with your own stupid strawmen. I have nothing against population control. I endorse it for the far left who cheer it. They should be able to abort all their babies. It is a good thing that they do. I can't find a thing on the internet saying Asimov was pro-gay rights, but if you want to believe that. Go for it. I couldn't care less either way. Feminism? Some guys will say anything to get laid. Liberal? He worked for a living. I doubt he would support you modern wannabe intellectuals expecting a government hand out as your birth right.


Wow. Google sure is a mystery. Here, you can watch Asimov make a fool of you in his own video.

But by all means, keep making judgments on his behalf. It makes you look smart.
 
2012-10-04 06:18:32 AM  
I noticed in passing that MSN is already crowing that Mittens won the debate. How the fark did this happen?
 
2012-10-04 06:21:08 AM  
Doesn't matter. Obama just lost the Presidency last night by trying to talk specifics and generally acting like an adult.
 
2012-10-04 06:25:38 AM  

Old enough to know better: I noticed in passing that MSN is already crowing that Mittens won the debate. How the fark did this happen?


Romney was agressive, Obama was profesorial. Obama agreed that Romney had some decent ideas, Romney never conceeded anything. Much like the Brown/Warren debates.
 
2012-10-04 06:28:49 AM  

Silly Jesus:


Those are great illustrations of why Romneys plan to remove the mandate from Obamacare is idiotic
 
2012-10-04 06:36:04 AM  
Romney looked like he spent the entire time trying to hold back laughter. And I don't mean humor laughter.

Can someone paint Joker makeup on Romney from last night?
 
2012-10-04 06:40:57 AM  

muck4doo: Accept Obama and his message, and be happy with it.


I have. I am.

Thanks for caring!
 
2012-10-04 06:46:08 AM  

muck4doo: That's racist! We get it. He's black! Derp!


You two having fun talking to yourself?
 
2012-10-04 06:46:08 AM  

Silly Jesus: [charlestonteaparty.org image 500x400]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 620x420]


So your spouse and kids are property? I see...
 
2012-10-04 06:56:36 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-04 06:56:43 AM  

Pharque-it: Silly Jesus: [charlestonteaparty.org image 500x400]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 620x420]

So your spouse and kids are property? I see...


He apparently adheres to biblical morality
 
2012-10-04 06:56:53 AM  
While covering pre-existing conditions would be nice, try buying car insurance after the crash. Or homeowners insurance after the place burns down. Not going to happen.

And why is everyone making a big deal about Big Bird. Does anybody even watch that stuff any more? There are plenty of other channels for your children to watch as they become "pre existing conditions".
 
2012-10-04 06:56:57 AM  
You know, I'm liberal. And I want to share links like this with my centrist friends but they see TPM and think "Liberal Agenda." Can we not find these stories anywhere else? A regional news paper?
 
2012-10-04 06:58:01 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: [i.imgur.com image 600x340]


Heh...I can't decide whether to vote for John Jackson or Jack Johnson!
 
2012-10-04 06:59:43 AM  

Pharque-it: Silly Jesus: [charlestonteaparty.org image 500x400]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 620x420]

So your spouse and kids are property? I see...


According to the bible they are, and the morals and laws in the age they were written they were as well.

Thats why we call him silly jesus, because hes so silly,
 
2012-10-04 07:07:31 AM  

Pharque-it: Silly Jesus: [charlestonteaparty.org image 500x400]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 620x420]

So your spouse and kids are property? I see...


You can get other spouses and kids, y'know. Totally replaceable.
 
2012-10-04 07:07:33 AM  
I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to fight for what they believe in.
 
2012-10-04 07:07:48 AM  
TPM...The Partisan Morons. Always talking out their bungholes.

webpages.charter.net
 
2012-10-04 07:11:08 AM  

Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to

protest in favor of having other people fight for what they believe in.

/FTFY

www.addictinginfo.org
 
2012-10-04 07:14:31 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to protest in favor of having other people fight for what they believe in.

/FTFY


Watching the debate last night, it was clear that Romney wants to be President much more than Obama does.
 
2012-10-04 07:14:45 AM  

Bontesla: MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: snowjack: But Romney won anyway because "facts don't matter" in debates.

No, Romney won because the President didn't engage.

THIS^

/WTF Obama?
//I'm truly baffled

I don't get it at all.
What was Obama's goal? I doubt he underestimated Romney but - I admit that I did. Was Obama hoping to juxtapose his calmness to Romney's erratic and rude behavior? Because Romney just trampled our Commander in Chief. Yikes.


I had to quit watching that mess. I love Obama but was truly disappointed. Ironically, we watched it on PBS and the first thing Mitt said was that he would cut funding to PBS. Hey America - he'll cut funding for everything. Get a clue, we're screwed.
 
2012-10-04 07:15:37 AM  
Well Sorkin, now we know what it looks like when Uncle Fluffy shows up for a debate.
 
2012-10-04 07:18:25 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Lionel Mandrake: Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to protest in favor of having other people fight for what they believe in.

/FTFY

Watching the debate last night, it was clear that Romney wants to be President much more than Obama does.


Which to me is a sign that Romney has no idea what he is waltzing into if he wins.
 
2012-10-04 07:20:41 AM  
Romney came out swinging, but his bat was made of pure bullshiat... The bobbleheads are going to be all aflutter and they'll be talk of "Game Changes" and what not. Romney will get a bump in to polls but the overall electoral landscape isn't going to change much.

But, I was done shopping a long time ago, so these dog and pony shows aren't for me.
 
2012-10-04 07:22:02 AM  
I watched this debate context free by skimming the Fark politics thread. Among Fark Pol tab regulars, it seemed O started slow but battled back. Among newly registered threads hitters, it was 100% Romney.

/average centrist voter
 
2012-10-04 07:23:08 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Lionel Mandrake: Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to protest in favor of having other people fight for what they believe in.

/FTFY

Watching the debate last night, it was clear that Romney wants to be President much more than Obama does.


i159.photobucket.com

Goddammit Poe's Law! I can no longer tell the difference between "conservatives" and the people mocking them.

I think Romney's all riled up because he's faced with the possibility of not getting something he wants, and is so clearly entitled to.
 
2012-10-04 07:29:18 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Does this mean I have to destroy my mixer... Cause that sh*t ain't happening.


Hell, I've got the mixer, blender and food processor. I guess I could put them into each other like some stainless steel and plastic mobius strip then turn them all on at once. It might open a portal in time so I could go back and biatch slap whatever "social media specialist" at Kitchen Aide forgot to switch accounts before they sent that crap out.
 
2012-10-04 07:32:01 AM  

Propain_az: Does anybody understand the 10th Amendment? Romney is saying it is not a FEDERAL issue, but a STATE issue.

You people are sheep to the slaughter


Didn't the Supreme Court already decide on this?
 
2012-10-04 07:32:21 AM  
Why the hell is it that, generally speaking, the earlier someone's user number is, the more conservative (and retarded -- but I repeat myself) they are?
 
2012-10-04 07:34:55 AM  
Whole lotta butt hurt here this morning.
 
2012-10-04 07:36:49 AM  

James F. Campbell: Why the hell is it that, generally speaking, the earlier someone's user number is, the more conservative (and retarded -- but I repeat myself) they are?


Hey now, 50337 here, and I've been steadily going further left as I get older. As far as retarded, well, I guess I have my moments. : )
 
2012-10-04 07:37:12 AM  

James F. Campbell: Why the hell is it that, generally speaking, the earlier someone's user number is, the more conservative (and retarded -- but I repeat myself) they are?


I feel like I have seen the opposite, but I've only lurked politics since 2004 so I'm used to seeing one n done newly registered conservatrolls
 
2012-10-04 07:37:25 AM  
NewportBarGuy:
His idea of "smaller government" is by eliminating 1 federal program and creating 50 state programs with less resources thus guaranteeing they will fail, reminding voters that "big government" can't solve any of their problems and that all it functions should be privatized. 

Standard "government is broken... because we broke it" GOP strategy.
 
2012-10-04 07:38:33 AM  

BarrRepublican: James F. Campbell: Why the hell is it that, generally speaking, the earlier someone's user number is, the more conservative (and retarded -- but I repeat myself) they are?

I feel like I have seen the opposite, but I've only lurked politics since 2004 so I'm used to seeing one n done newly registered conservatrolls


Well, yeah. There are those guys, too. I automatically ignore any accounts made in 2012 that make conservative posts.
 
2012-10-04 07:39:05 AM  

shirtsbyeric: Whole lotta butt hurt here this morning.


Really? Are you in the same thread as me?
 
2012-10-04 07:40:04 AM  

keylock71: James F. Campbell: Why the hell is it that, generally speaking, the earlier someone's user number is, the more conservative (and retarded -- but I repeat myself) they are?

Hey now, 50337 here, and I've been steadily going further left as I get older. As far as retarded, well, I guess I have my moments. : )


Point taken. And you're in green. Maybe I am suffering from cognitive bias, then.
 
2012-10-04 07:40:51 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Lionel Mandrake: Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to protest in favor of having other people fight for what they believe in.

/FTFY

Watching the debate last night, it was clear that Romney wants to be President much more than Obama does.


The people who want to be President the most are the sort of people that should never be President.
 
2012-10-04 07:41:48 AM  

James F. Campbell: And you're in green.


Cool... I'm usually in the red in the real world. : )
 
2012-10-04 07:46:27 AM  
So a federal program is SOSHULIST MARXIZMZ, but all 50 states adopting the plan on their own is CRYING EAGLE FREEDUMBS?

And how is wishing and hoping that the states do something a plan?
 
2012-10-04 07:47:22 AM  

keylock71: James F. Campbell: And you're in green.

Cool... I'm usually in the red in the real world. : )


Ha-ha, tell me about it. >_>
 
2012-10-04 07:48:51 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Lost Thought 00: Lionel Mandrake: Lost Thought 00: I can say I'm really considering voting for Romney, even though I disagree with his positions, because I want a President who is willing to protest in favor of having other people fight for what they believe in.

/FTFY

Watching the debate last night, it was clear that Romney wants to be President much more than Obama does.



Goddammit Poe's Law! I can no longer tell the difference between "conservatives" and the people mocking them.

I think Romney's all riled up because he's faced with the possibility of not getting something he wants, and is so clearly entitled to.


Last night I finally saw the Obama that only Republicans could see before.
 
2012-10-04 07:50:50 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Does this mean I have to destroy my mixer... Cause that sh*t ain't happening.


They are known to be impossible to destroy at any rate.
 
2012-10-04 07:52:46 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: The only fact you need to know:

[imageshack.us image 499x383]

The sad part is it's actually true, since Romney would get rid of PBS. Saying "but I like Big Bird" is just another example of him wanting it both ways -- you can't keep Big Bird on the air if you shut down his network.


Having slept on it, I wake up thinking about the debate and, "I like Big Bird (but fark him he's fired)" is still the first thing that comes to mind. The second is having Clint Eastwood moderate the debate.
 
2012-10-04 07:53:33 AM  

jso2897: I must have tuned to the wrong channel, and watched the wrong debate. because i didn't see any of the big, exciting debate some of the rest of you apparently saw.
I saw a dull, empty recitation of stuff we already knew they would say, and with neither candidate looking especially good or bad. It was boring, and won't change any minds.
Both of them seemed bored and annoyed they had to be there.
But i guess people have to spin this to where they can inject some excitement into it.
At least journalists have the excuse that they get paid to hype this shiat - I don't know why regular people would want to do it.


You either watched last night's debate, or every Presidential debate since Reagan/Carter.
 
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