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2012-10-03 07:06:03 PM
My nips are hard.
 
2012-10-03 07:06:11 PM
THIS TRAIN!
 
2012-10-03 07:06:22 PM
wow! extreme burn/snap combo subby
well done
 
2012-10-03 07:07:03 PM
And because Moneyball is dead.
 
2012-10-03 07:07:49 PM

mikaloyd: wow! extreme burn/snap combo subby
well done


Could someone post the flow chart? I'm not sure if I got told.
 
2012-10-03 07:09:20 PM
I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.
 
2012-10-03 07:10:46 PM
This is why I love the extra wild card spot. Winning the division is now far, far more important than in the old system. Good call Bud!
 
2012-10-03 07:10:57 PM
And waiting until the very last game of the regular season to take first place.
 
2012-10-03 07:11:17 PM
Why couldn't we just have one closing GDT like last year?
 
2012-10-03 07:11:41 PM

W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.


Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.
 
2012-10-03 07:13:06 PM
I hope this doesn't end in another earthquake

/GO GIANTS!
//GO A's!
 
2012-10-03 07:13:31 PM
if the Giants and A's are in the World Series again, we're gonna have another quake
 
2012-10-03 07:14:56 PM
You know what I've heard nothing about today? The REDS straight up dominating this season.
 
2012-10-03 07:14:57 PM
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-03 07:15:30 PM

The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.


Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.
 
2012-10-03 07:16:25 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: You know what I've heard nothing about today? The REDS straight up dominating this season.


They dominated a division that included the Cubs. +10 wins right there.
 
2012-10-03 07:18:39 PM

DeWayne Mann: And because Moneyball is dead.


The old Moneyball, which found that OPS to be vastly underrated, but more more correlated with winning than the prized stats is dead. That's because it's no longer being underrated. But that's only part of the story with Moneyball. The true Moneyball game is to find players that contribute to winning, but whose particular skills are underrated (and thus undervalued). So, as the market shifts, Billy Beane has had to shift as well, since Oakland can't really afford payroll numbers that are in the stratosphere. In reality, it's never been dead, it's just had to reconfigure itself for the market changes.
 
2012-10-03 07:21:01 PM
Didn't St. Louis limping into the playoffs in 06, (83-78) yet winning the series all but destroy the idea that teams from weak divisions can't do well in the postseason? Aren't we done discounting a team because of the quality of the division they play in?
 
2012-10-03 07:22:32 PM

tenton: DeWayne Mann: And because Moneyball is dead.

The old Moneyball, which found that OPS to be vastly underrated, but more more correlated with winning than the prized stats is dead. That's because it's no longer being underrated. But that's only part of the story with Moneyball. The true Moneyball game is to find players that contribute to winning, but whose particular skills are underrated (and thus undervalued). So, as the market shifts, Billy Beane has had to shift as well, since Oakland can't really afford payroll numbers that are in the stratosphere. In reality, it's never been dead, it's just had to reconfigure itself for the market changes.


YAY NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE TROLL
 
2012-10-03 07:31:02 PM

seumasokelly: The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.

Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.


Didn't the Mets have a 7 game lead with 10 to play?
Somebody remind me.

//Mets fan.
 
2012-10-03 07:37:10 PM
Please let the Ryder Cup Rangers lose Friday and put me out of my misery.
 
2012-10-03 07:37:33 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: You know what I've heard nothing about today? The REDS straight up dominating this season.


Reds? That sounds like a commie name. Keep that stuff out of my wholesome American baseball thread
 
2012-10-03 07:37:45 PM

W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.

Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.

Didn't the Mets have a 7 game lead with 10 to play?
Somebody remind me.

//Mets fan.

The New York Mets' 2007 season was the 46th regular season for the Mets. The Mets were defending their first divisional championship since 1988. While the Atlanta Braves were counted as possible competition, the Philadelphia Phillies were predicted as the front-runners, albeit by their own star shortstop, Jimmy Rollins.[1] Ultimately, Rollins' prediction rang true, as the Phillies won the NL East Division title on the last day of the regular season. With a seven-game lead on September 12, the Mets suffered a historic collapse by losing 12 of their last 17 games and missing the postseason. It is regarded as one of the worst collapses in MLB history.

 
2012-10-03 07:38:01 PM
Great headline. Awesome ending to the season.
 
2012-10-03 07:42:54 PM
What an Amazing, Astounding, Astonishing season it is. And yes, it is the only time all season the A's are in first place. The last day. Has that ever happened!?

/ crazy
 
2012-10-03 07:43:53 PM

CrazyCurt: What an Amazing, Astounding, Astonishing season it is. And yes, it is the only time all season the A's are in first place. The last day. Has that ever happened!?

/ crazy


Twice before
 
2012-10-03 07:43:59 PM

seumasokelly: W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.

Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.

Didn't the Mets have a 7 game lead with 10 to play?
Somebody remind me.

//Mets fan.

The New York Mets' 2007 season was the 46th regular season for the Mets. The Mets were defending their first divisional championship since 1988. While the Atlanta Braves were counted as possible competition, the Philadelphia Phillies were predicted as the front-runners, albeit by their own star shortstop, Jimmy Rollins.[1] Ultimately, Rollins' prediction rang true, as the Phillies won the NL East Division title on the last day of the regular season. With a seven-game lead on September 12, the Mets suffered a historic collapse by losing 12 of their last 17 games and missing the postseason. It is regarded as one of the worst collapses in MLB history.


So...It wasn't as bad as I thought.
 
2012-10-03 07:44:22 PM
Well this Yankees game was fun.
 
2012-10-03 07:49:15 PM

W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.

Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.

Didn't the Mets have a 7 game lead with 10 to play?
Somebody remind me.

//Mets fan.

The New York Mets' 2007 season was the 46th regular season for the Mets. The Mets were defending their first divisional championship since 1988. While the Atlanta Braves were counted as possible competition, the Philadelphia Phillies were predicted as the front-runners, albeit by their own star shortstop, Jimmy Rollins.[1] Ultimately, Rollins' prediction rang true, as the Phillies won the NL East Division title on the last day of the regular season. With a seven-game lead on September 12, the Mets suffered a historic collapse by losing 12 of their last 17 games and missing the postseason. It is regarded as one of the worst collapses in MLB history.

So...It wasn't as bad as I thought.


Not quite, but still pretty bad. Definitely comparable to other memorable collapses. The Angels giving up a 13 game lead over the last 6 weeks of the regular season in 1995 then losing the one-game playoff 9-1, etc.
 
2012-10-03 07:52:25 PM

seumasokelly: W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.

Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.

Didn't the Mets have a 7 game lead with 10 to play?
Somebody remind me.

//Mets fan.

The New York Mets' 2007 season was the 46th regular season for the Mets. The Mets were defending their first divisional championship since 1988. While the Atlanta Braves were counted as possible competition, the Philadelphia Phillies were predicted as the front-runners, albeit by their own star shortstop, Jimmy Rollins.[1] Ultimately, Rollins' prediction rang true, as the Phillies won the NL East Division title on the last day of the regular season. With a seven-game lead on September 12, the Mets suffered a historic collapse by losing 12 of their last 17 games and missing the postseason. It is regarded as one of the worst collapses in MLB history.

So...It wasn't as bad as I thought.

Not quite, but still pretty bad. Definitely comparable to other memorable collapses. The Angels giving up a 13 game lead over the last 6 weeks of the regular season in 1995 then losing the one-game playoff 9-1, etc.


It's worth noting this really wasn't a collapse by Texas. They went 12-18 I think to finish the season. That's not really a collapse, this was more an incredibly improbable run by the A's.
 
2012-10-03 07:59:28 PM
45 year A's fan here. My father drove me from Denver to Kansas City to see my first A's game. They moved to Oakland the same year we moved back to Northern California. I've never seen an A's team like this. Honestly, I thought they were gonna dominate next year. But my little brother kept telling me "THIS year". I owe him a bottle of champagne. :)
 
2012-10-03 08:01:48 PM

GAT_00: seumasokelly: W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: W.C.fields forever: seumasokelly: The Bestest: W.C.fields forever: I believe it's the 1st time all years the A's are in 1st place.

Not quite. They shared 1st with Seattle when they were 1-1 to start the season in Japan before anyone else played.
They are, however, only the 3rd team in MLB history to win the division without having never otherwise led it outright.

Also only the 5th team ever to win the division after overcoming a 13 game or more deficit. If I'm not mistaken, they overcame a 5 game deficit with only 9 to play.

Didn't the Mets have a 7 game lead with 10 to play?
Somebody remind me.

//Mets fan.

The New York Mets' 2007 season was the 46th regular season for the Mets. The Mets were defending their first divisional championship since 1988. While the Atlanta Braves were counted as possible competition, the Philadelphia Phillies were predicted as the front-runners, albeit by their own star shortstop, Jimmy Rollins.[1] Ultimately, Rollins' prediction rang true, as the Phillies won the NL East Division title on the last day of the regular season. With a seven-game lead on September 12, the Mets suffered a historic collapse by losing 12 of their last 17 games and missing the postseason. It is regarded as one of the worst collapses in MLB history.

So...It wasn't as bad as I thought.

Not quite, but still pretty bad. Definitely comparable to other memorable collapses. The Angels giving up a 13 game lead over the last 6 weeks of the regular season in 1995 then losing the one-game playoff 9-1, etc.

It's worth noting this really wasn't a collapse by Texas. They went 12-18 I think to finish the season. That's not really a collapse, this was more an incredibly improbable run by the A's.


Agreed..Don't tell that to the Texas fans.
 
2012-10-03 08:03:36 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: 45 year A's fan here. My father drove me from Denver to Kansas City to see my first A's game. They moved to Oakland the same year we moved back to Northern California. I've never seen an A's team like this. Honestly, I thought they were gonna dominate next year. But my little brother kept telling me "THIS year". I owe him a bottle of champagne. :)


Quite frankly they're scary. It's why the Yankees getting the #1 is so important, because the only thing scarier are the Tigers in a short series. The Yankees winning tonight would make the A's and Tigers each other's problem for awhile, and that suits me fine.

/Daisuke out already
 
2012-10-03 08:04:17 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: 45 year A's fan here. My father drove me from Denver to Kansas City to see my first A's game. They moved to Oakland the same year we moved back to Northern California. I've never seen an A's team like this. Honestly, I thought they were gonna dominate next year. But my little brother kept telling me "THIS year". I owe him a bottle of champagne. :)


Congrats!! How many rookies on that team?
 
2012-10-03 08:06:34 PM

The Bestest: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: 45 year A's fan here. My father drove me from Denver to Kansas City to see my first A's game. They moved to Oakland the same year we moved back to Northern California. I've never seen an A's team like this. Honestly, I thought they were gonna dominate next year. But my little brother kept telling me "THIS year". I owe him a bottle of champagne. :)

Quite frankly they're scary. It's why the Yankees getting the #1 is so important, because the only thing scarier are the Tigers in a short series. The Yankees winning tonight would make the A's and Tigers each other's problem for awhile, and that suits me fine.

/Daisuke out already


Verlander/Fister/Scherzer is 2 games won out of 3.
 
2012-10-03 08:07:53 PM

All right, let's do this again:

1.bp.blogspot.com

Ummm, except with much less earthquakey-ness this time. And with the opposite outcome as last time, if possible. But otherwise:

GO A's!!*

*. . . unless you happen to reach the World Series against the Giants, at which point above statement is automatically deemed revoked
 
2012-10-03 08:08:48 PM
Also, just because I'm feeling petty & vindictive, I wish I could remember which A's fan said on here that George Kottaras was going to be a terrible catcher with the A's.

I mean, sure, I'm wrong alot too. But that's just funny.
 
2012-10-03 08:14:04 PM
Miggy 0 for 1.
 
2012-10-03 08:16:57 PM
Evan Longoria 2, Orioles 0
 
2012-10-03 08:16:59 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I hope this doesn't end in another earthquake

/GO GIANTS!
//GO A's!


Stay clear of the bay bridge during this one.
 
2012-10-03 08:20:23 PM
It's a good thing I live here in DFW to offset all this local sports team fail.
 
2012-10-03 08:22:33 PM

Treygreen13: It's a good thing I live here in DFW to offset all this local sports team fail.


Cheer up! Rays are beating the O's 3-0 currently, so it's looking like the Rangers will host the Wild Card game instead of having to travel.
 
2012-10-03 08:26:26 PM

DeWayne Mann: YAY NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE TROLL


Isn't it gratifying?

/I knew it was a troll as I read it scrolling down, and then i read the response.
 
2012-10-03 08:26:51 PM

The Bestest: Treygreen13: It's a good thing I live here in DFW to offset all this local sports team fail.

Cheer up! Rays are beating the O's 3-0 currently, so it's looking like the Rangers will host the Wild Card game instead of having to travel.


I honestly don't care at all about the Rangers. Even though they're good I've stayed off the bandwagon. I wasn't a fan when they were shiatty so I won't be one now.
 
2012-10-03 08:27:38 PM

The Bestest: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: 45 year A's fan here. My father drove me from Denver to Kansas City to see my first A's game. They moved to Oakland the same year we moved back to Northern California. I've never seen an A's team like this. Honestly, I thought they were gonna dominate next year. But my little brother kept telling me "THIS year". I owe him a bottle of champagne. :)

Quite frankly they're scary. It's why the Yankees getting the #1 is so important, because the only thing scarier are the Tigers in a short series. The Yankees winning tonight would make the A's and Tigers each other's problem for awhile, and that suits me fine.

/Daisuke out already


Especially now. Detroit (with the worst record of all the playoff teams) is the only team that got to rest their pitching staff. Although I must admit my biggest fear is the Yankees. Because they're the damned Yankees. 27 World Championships proves they know how to win when it's important. Any hatred of them by me is definitely alloyed with respect. I love baseball so much that sometimes I wish I was born in the capital of baseball, New York.

W.C.fields forever: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: 45 year A's fan here. My father drove me from Denver to Kansas City to see my first A's game. They moved to Oakland the same year we moved back to Northern California. I've never seen an A's team like this. Honestly, I thought they were gonna dominate next year. But my little brother kept telling me "THIS year". I owe him a bottle of champagne. :)

Congrats!! How many rookies on that team?


Memory's fuzzy, but probably quite a few, because anyone that was good got traded to the Yankees. I don't remember who pitched in my first major league game, but my all-time favorite player was on the pitching staff. Number 27, Jim Hunter. I got to meet him once when I was eleven, after the A's lost a doubleheader to Texas in 1973. He was on the disabled list (took a line drive off his hand in the All-Star Game), but he spent a good 20 minutes talking to me about baseball. I wrote him a letter thanking him, and he sent me one back. I met the Rangers' pitcher Jim Bibby that same day, and wished him luck the next day. I'll never do that again, he threw a no-hitter against my A's.
 
2012-10-03 08:28:45 PM
Do the picnic tables and chairs in left field at the Trop bother anyone else?
 
2012-10-03 08:29:14 PM
Can you smart folk explain the different scenarios here for me?

If yankees win and orioles lose, who do they play? If they both win who do they play?
 
2012-10-03 08:33:20 PM

neuroflare: DeWayne Mann: YAY NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE TROLL

Isn't it gratifying?

/I knew it was a troll as I read it scrolling down, and then i read the response.


That's like, the second time EVER I've done that.

Great fun!
 
2012-10-03 08:35:08 PM
If it were any other team, this collapse would really be brutal. But since the Rangers provided their fans with the most heartbreaking game ever seen last year, losing a 5 game lead with 9 games to play just merely sucks a fat one.

Congrats to the A's, they kicked ass and took care of business. I'll be rooting for the Rangers on Friday, but not expecting much. They have no spark, no drive, no fight.
 
2012-10-03 08:37:47 PM

marius2: Can you smart folk explain the different scenarios here for me?

If yankees win and orioles lose, who do they play? If they both win who do they play?


If the Yankees win, regardless of what the O's do, they're the #1 seed and will play the winner of the Wild Card game.
 
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