"WHEN CAN I START TESTING THIS NEW DEADLY NEUROTOXIN ON SUBJECTS?"
Mr Mamba APPROVES!
fragMasterFlash: [img688.imageshack.us image 175x210]A new drug? One that won't make me sick?
morg: It would be nice if they found a good pain killer that didn't get you high as well so they could sell it over the counter.
Elegy: Before you know it, all the cool kids will be butt chuggin' black mamba.
AverageAmericanGuy: It follows from homeopathic principles that something that would cause pain and death in sufficient quantities can be diluted and used as a pain reliever.
Gawdzila: AverageAmericanGuy: It follows from homeopathic principles that something that would cause pain and death in sufficient quantities can be diluted and used as a pain reliever.*facepalm*Homeopathy is full of crap. They don't just dilute the venom, the isolate a particular peptide or peptides in it and use those at full strength.
Great Porn Dragon: No weirder than the New Hotness in type II diabetes medications being--I am not making this up--three generations of a GLP1 agonist that was originally discovered in gila monster venom, to the point that pretty much this entire class of drugs has the affectionate nickname of "lizard spit". Bonus--it also seems to give the same general benefits (reduction in appetite, improvement in glycemic control particularly with glucagon regulation, and weight loss) as weight-reduction surgery only without the 25% death risk. :DAnd no, they did NOT to my knowledge have gila monsters happily nomming folks with Teh Diabeetus (as odd a mental image as that may be)--the scientists in question already knew about human GLP1 agonists as a target (the human version having a very short in vivo half-life, though) and found a similar compound that is much longer-lasting in gila monster venom.(Yes, a lot of venoms do tend to be targets for pharmaceutical research--there's at least one painkiller in the pipeline (if not already approved) based on a cone-snail neurotoxin. Mambas have a particularly potent neurotoxin (not quite on the level of, say, Australian elapids but close and quite a bit easier to milk) so it's not a huge shocker that some painkiller based on mamba neurotoxins is in the pipeline.)/yeah, have a relative or three on the lizard spit//the stuff does work better than oral hypoglycemics, and Lizard Spit 3.0 only has to be injected once a week--even the older versions of Lizard Spit aren't as bad as insulin or the oral hypoglycemics
Great Porn Dragon: Chinese traditional medicine HAS used cobra venom (in non-lethal doses, of course) for pain reliefHomeopathy doesn't work for shiate
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