I can't for the life of me figure out why other people care if a stranger is fat. The only situations where I can understand caring is if it's someone you love and you are concerned about their health, or it is your significant other and you are superficial enough to care about them putting on weight. At that point you might have a reason to talk to them about their weight and try and encourage them to lose weight for the sake of their health or your relationship. Okay, I could also see if you're on an airplane and they are flowing over into your seat. Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care.

Huggermugger: Why is it that so many men find unattractive women to be a personal affront to them. They just can't ignore such a person, but rather find offense and get peeved about it.

Guys, we weren't born to specifically give you an erection.


And God help you if you try to change it either. If your chest is as flat as board = ewwwww body like a 12 year old boy. Get implants = ewwww fake tits are nasty. I'm sure if she lost the weight every farker in here would be claiming she looked better "curvy" and then bemoan the loss of her tits or something.

All thing being said she is an AW, he a jerk but all she is doing is giving him free publicity. That letter should have stayed private. I know it hurts but airing this stuff just gives RL trolls fuel for the fire. I should know, I've had my naturally skinny frame and small chest held against me my whole life and trust me, people say nasty shiat when they are not talking to you face to face. If you don't give them the attention they want in real life, while it won't stop, at least you deny them the drama they want so badly.

His original email:

"It's unusual that I see your morning show, but I did so for a very short time today. I was surprised indeed to witness that your physical condition hasn't improved for many years.

Sure[ly] you don't consider yourself a suitable example for this community's young people, girls in particular. Obesity is one of the worst choices a person can make and one of the most dangerous habits to maintain. I leave you this note hoping that you'll reconsider your responsibility as a local public personality to present and promote a healthy lifestyle."

This is not a terribly cruel email. Did he call her fat? Did he use "bullying" type words? No. She called him a bully. She took a private email and turned it into a public spectacle (or her husband did). She goes on air to talk about negative impacts on young girls. What he did wasn't nice, but in terms of how it was phrased it wasn't really mean, either. Like it or not when kids see someone on tv or in the movies they often admire them and aspire to be like them. Like it or not, she is probably a role model and being obese (her words, not mine) is not a good example to set.

This guy just proves the old joke about attorneys:

"Why do lawyers wear neckties?"
"To keep the the foreskin from creeping over their faces."

PillsHere: Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care

PillsHere: I can't for the life of me figure out why other people care if a stranger is fat. The only situations where I can understand caring is if it's someone you love and you are concerned about their health, or it is your significant other and you are superficial enough to care about them putting on weight. At that point you might have a reason to talk to them about their weight and try and encourage them to lose weight for the sake of their health or your relationship. Okay, I could also see if you're on an airplane and they are flowing over into your seat. Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care.


Fat people are disgusting. They are as bad in their personification of gluttony as certain overly-cosmetically-enhanced people are in their personification of vanity.
Unattractive people, who do their best to be reasonably well-groomed, are heroes compared to fat people or overly vain people in that they are doing the best they can with what they have.

Fat people are offensive, and should not subject the rest of the world to their fatty fatness.

SilentStrider: Hey douchebag. You got your ass handed to you. Put your tail between your legs and crawl back into your cave.

No she made a big deal about someone daring to call her fat ass fat so she decided to act like a victim. The problem is his letter hit too close to home and she decided to let other people biatch at him, she's a passive aggressive biatch and her husband should be ashamed.

ktybear: PillsHere: Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care

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So, look at the persons that are corporations, shilling cheap food for the masses, no?

Quit hating with your finger pointed out; you know at rest it points in...

Indubitably: ktybear: PillsHere: Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care

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So, look at the persons that are corporations, shilling cheap food for the masses, no?

Quit hating with your finger pointed out; you know at rest it points in...

o.O

serial_crusher: Indubitably: serial_crusher: Indubitably: Public proclamations via Facebook are bullying.

Who proclaimed anything on Facebook? (other than her husband, who posted the private email discussion there....)

Who posted first?

What is the actual timeline, man?

I'm just going by her response:
"On Friday, I received the following email..."
"While I attempted to laugh off the [snip butthurt] my coworkers couldn't. Especially my husband, Mike Thompson. Mike posted the email on his WKTV Facebook page..."

Okay.

Doesn't limit my point, really. Check my other posts.

Delabel, man.

Respect.

steamingpile: SilentStrider: Hey douchebag. You got your ass handed to you. Put your tail between your legs and crawl back into your cave.

No she made a big deal about someone daring to call her fat ass fat so she decided to act like a victim. The problem is his letter hit too close to home and she decided to let other people biatch at him, she's a passive aggressive biatch and her husband should be ashamed.


Amen.

Maybe if she would put down the donuts, she could go out and find herself some self-confidence. On her quest for self-confidence (if she doesn't use a fatty-electric-scooter), she might even get some exercise to lose some weight.

As for being butthurt, that is sort of understandable. If my butt was that size, it would probably ache a bit too.

On one hand, he didn't post his letter on a public forum - the lady's husband did. Plus, he didn't call her names or resort to personal attacks.

On the other hand, sending her the email was a dick move. It's not like she's not aware of her weight, or that it was his job to point it out, either. His email came off with the attitude of "how dare you be fat!", as if it has any bearing on her job performance or his life. Maybe for his next email, he'll tell Mary-Kate Olsen to eat a sandwich.

She had three fundamental points. First, was that it was a form of bullying, plain and simple. His comments also offered nothing in regards to constructive critism of her ability to perform her job as a news anchor. He said she was a bad community role model because she was obese and on TV.

It is clear that his words- especially as a lawyer and member of the Bar- were mean-spirited, sexist, unethical, and unprofessional.

Two, since the month of October has been deemed "Anti-Bullying Month" she (and her co-workers ) were correct to assert that "the incident" and actions of said bully was relative to address in the media and on-air, to not only call out and highlight this as an example of bullying, but to use it as a teachable moment that bullying is a learned behavior and the gateway of destruction and chaos it can cause to the masses: especially women and young children.

Third, as a parent of three young girls, she stated had to show leadership and strength to her children and others in her community by standing up to the bully for herself and on behalf of others being bullied. She pleaded that children learn to bully by example from adults in their lives. Then they go to school and bully others children and adult teachers. It's a cycle of abuse that begins with name-calling and shaming that leads to domestic violence and discrimination and often, hate-crimes, rape, murder, and suicide.

Sure, as human beings , we are taught to just turn the other cheek and deal with it. But that is how bullying is tolerated and festers and explodes in society. Bullies are then not held accountable for their actions. She was holding him accountable for his choice of behavior- his actions and his words; there were consequences.

Her point was that there are ramifications from bullying and that his actions and others just like him are toxic and harmful. It was not about one email or snide comment.

She also took the time to plead with anyone being bullied to not allow yourself be defined by the words and actions of bullies, but to be strong for yourself and defend yourself. She asked to see the hope and actions of the majority of good, supporting, people with dignity and integrity in our society. But cautioned that we are each responsible for our behavior, actions, and words.

I commend her. I thought it was brave and more people who have that kind of public access should stand up for one another in our society.

ktybear: Indubitably: ktybear: PillsHere: Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care

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So, look at the persons that are corporations, shilling cheap food for the masses, no?

Quit hating with your finger pointed out; you know at rest it points in...

o.O

*hugs*

*plz ktybear, show respect, my G-pa passed at seven-twenty-central, and he was an abstract teacher. You might abstract yourself, friend*

FuryOfFirestorm: On one hand, he didn't post his letter on a public forum - the lady's husband did. Plus, he didn't call her names or resort to personal attacks.

On the other hand, sending her the email was a dick move. It's not like she's not aware of her weight, or that it was his job to point it out, either. His email came off with the attitude of "how dare you be fat!", as if it has any bearing on her job performance or his life. Maybe for his next email, he'll tell Mary-Kate Olsen to eat a sandwich.


It does have a bearing on her job performance, because she's making it seem like it's ok to be a fatty to the fatty little kids who may watch her on TV.
When you see things often enough, you can become desensitized to them. She's hard to miss.

As for her being aware of her weight, that's pretty much what the email was about. She doesn't seem to be or doesn't seem to be aware that it's an issue.
The email was referencing the fact that she's been a fatty for quite some time without seeming to take any action to fix her problem.

Trucker: This guy just proves the old joke about attorneys:

"Why do lawyers wear neckties?"
"To keep the the foreskin from creeping over their faces."

I work with a horde of trial litigators. Gonna whip out that chestnut the next time we go out for drinks together. I might have to change it to "class-action lawyers" though. Those guys are bottom rung, below personal injury and divorce attorneys, just above ADA attorneys.

ggecko: He sends her a private email, she goes all global with it (while also admitting she is fat). Then she tries the angle of being "bullied".

If you read what he wrote (privately) and see her public response, I tend to side with him on this one.

Agreed.

Nutritionist on the radio brought it up this morning but it's a valid point. Why is it acceptable to confront an alcoholic, or a drug user for what they are doing to themselves but NOT to do the same to a morbidly obese person (and she might say "some doctors chart" but she's morbidly obese on any chart...well maybe not Hutteese but any chart on Earth).

They are essentially destroying themselves in a similar manner, so why is it not acceptable to call them on it?

HotWingAgenda: Trucker: This guy just proves the old joke about attorneys:

"Why do lawyers wear neckties?"
"To keep the the foreskin from creeping over their faces."

I work with a horde of trial litigators. Gonna whip out that chestnut the next time we go out for drinks together. I might have to change it to "class-action lawyers" though. Those guys are bottom rung, below personal injury and divorce attorneys, just above ADA attorneys.

Aren't you HotWingConspiracy?

TastyEloi: rocinante721: FTFA: Livingston, who just so happens to be the sister of Office Space actor Ron Livingston

I dont want to be someone who would

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... but I'm seriously disappointed at the lack of OFFICE SPACE quotes here

Agreed. I would tend to side with the news anchor and against the lawyer for no other reason than her brother is Ron Livingston.

Having a relative who's been in both Office Space and Band of Brothers should count for something, after all.

It may count for something, but it doesnt pay for weight watchers.......

DoBeDoBeDo: Nutritionist on the radio brought it up this morning but it's a valid point. Why is it acceptable to confront an alcoholic, or a drug user for what they are doing to themselves but NOT to do the same to a morbidly obese person (and she might say "some doctors chart" but she's morbidly obese on any chart...well maybe not Hutteese but any chart on Earth).

They are essentially destroying themselves in a similar manner, so why is it not acceptable to call them on it?


It is perfectly acceptable. There are simply a disproportionate amount of people in the world who want to live in denial.

Smoking is EVIL, therefore we can bully the Hell out of smokers without feeling bad about it!
Drinking is EVIL, therefore we can bully the Hell out of alcoholics without feeling bad about it!

Being fat is a sign of strength of character that people should be applauded for, based on their courage to be comfortable with who they are, you ASSHOLE!

JeffreyScott: ggecko: He sends her a private email, she goes all global with it (while also admitting she is fat). Then she tries the angle of being "bullied".

If you read what he wrote (privately) and see her public response, I tend to side with him on this one.

Agreed.

If anyone was the bully in this scenario, it was her. She used a public forum to publicly shame someone for sending her an email that was partial opinion (bad role model) and partial fact (she is overweight by her own admission). Should he have sent it, probably not. Her reaction to it was much worse than what he originally did and she used her power to publicly shame and embarrass someone. That is much more of a bully move than sending a private email that says I think you would be a better role model if you weren't unhealthily overweight.

mjbok: JeffreyScott: ggecko: He sends her a private email, she goes all global with it (while also admitting she is fat). Then she tries the angle of being "bullied".

If you read what he wrote (privately) and see her public response, I tend to side with him on this one.

Agreed.

If anyone was the bully in this scenario, it was her. She used a public forum to publicly shame someone for sending her an email that was partial opinion (bad role model) and partial fact (she is overweight by her own admission). Should he have sent it, probably not. Her reaction to it was much worse than what he originally did and she used her power to publicly shame and embarrass someone. That is much more of a bully move than sending a private email that says I think you would be a better role model if you weren't unhealthily overweight.

You are moronic.

PillsHere: I can't for the life of me figure out why other people care if a stranger is fat. The only situations where I can understand caring is if it's someone you love and you are concerned about their health, or it is your significant other and you are superficial enough to care about them putting on weight. At that point you might have a reason to talk to them about their weight and try and encourage them to lose weight for the sake of their health or your relationship. Okay, I could also see if you're on an airplane and they are flowing over into your seat. Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care.

I wouldn't except she brought it on herself, she's not ugly but her body is bad, losing 45-60lbs is her only hope.

steamingpile: PillsHere: I can't for the life of me figure out why other people care if a stranger is fat. The only situations where I can understand caring is if it's someone you love and you are concerned about their health, or it is your significant other and you are superficial enough to care about them putting on weight. At that point you might have a reason to talk to them about their weight and try and encourage them to lose weight for the sake of their health or your relationship. Okay, I could also see if you're on an airplane and they are flowing over into your seat. Otherwise, there is really no reason why it should be anyone's business nor do I understand why anyone would care.

I wouldn't except she brought it on herself, she's not ugly but her body is bad, losing 45-60lbs is her only hope.

Society-collapse will do that and more...

serial_crusher: Indubitably: serial_crusher: Indubitably: Public proclamations via Facebook are bullying.

Who proclaimed anything on Facebook? (other than her husband, who posted the private email discussion there....)

Who posted first?

What is the actual timeline, man?

I'm just going by her response:
"On Friday, I received the following email..."
"While I attempted to laugh off the [snip butthurt] my coworkers couldn't. Especially my husband, Mike Thompson. Mike posted the email on his WKTV Facebook page..."

So she got the letter, was upset, and went to others for validation of feeling upset and for them to comfort her while saying "oh no, you look good, Bessie...."

The lawyer is probably an asshole motivated by publicity, I don't care for his shenanigans. But that woman is dangerously overweight and her defensive reaction suggests she is insecure and in denial about it.

I've been 60 pounds overweight and I've been toned and athletic. Though I had "good, understandable reasons" for being fat, there was only one thing standing between gross health problems and a slender, healthy body: WORK. It takes a good 6 months of self discipline, exercising and eating right to lose a big chunk of weight.

This woman has chosen her condition, and that's her right. But obesity is a killer, and what I she were chain smoking, pounding shots of vodka or doing some other incredibly healthy thing on air? We say it's not about her weight but "who she is", but her inability to maintain her health also reflects on her character. I think she said she had three daughters...that's really the audience she needs to set an example for.

Indubitably: You are moronic.

Maybe so, but what part of my post you quoted is incorrect. By definition bullying is "Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone)". He had no strength or power over her, and was not trying to intimidate her. Using her position as someone with a (televised) voice, she used her position to intimidate or belittle what started out as a solitary private email.

It's not so much a defense of him as it is pointing out what she did was more wrong than what he did and closer to the definition of bullying than what he did.

so easy to tell who the fat people in this thread are.

When the famine comes, all you skinny people will be dead and I will laugh and laugh.
And it WILL come, make no mistake about it.

DoBeDoBeDo: Nutritionist on the radio brought it up this morning but it's a valid point. Why is it acceptable to confront an alcoholic, or a drug user for what they are doing to themselves but NOT to do the same to a morbidly obese person (and she might say "some doctors chart" but she's morbidly obese on any chart...well maybe not Hutteese but any chart on Earth).

They are essentially destroying themselves in a similar manner, so why is it not acceptable to call them on it?

not everyone who's fat is necessarily doing something deliberately bad to their body. For example, my aunt eats like once a day and she's a balloon, what the fark is telling her she's fat gonna do, stop her eating less? Thats where bulimia comes from. Being fat has for more to do with the fast food plastered everywhere, doubled with subsidized sugar, corn and crap, but not fruits and vegetables of course, with overworked jobs, low pay, stressful lives as well as age. Alot of fat people ARE ALREADY TRING TO LOSE WEIGHT. CAN YOU SAY THAT ABOUT ALCOHOLICS AND DRUG USERS?. SHE'S ALREADY TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT. THE ONLY THING TELLING HER SHE'S FAT WILL DO IS MAKE HER GIVE UP There's a strong difference between someone overweight trying to lose weight and someone who just eats plain crap, learn the difference. I mean no one wants to farking be fat.

Are you gonna tell someone depressed they're farking depressed and should just stop being depressed? Or that someone ugly should just stop being ugly? Quit being such an entitled self-centered dick (myself not excluded)

Witness99: The lawyer is probably an asshole motivated by publicity, I don't care for his shenanigans. But that woman is dangerously overweight and her defensive reaction suggests she is insecure and in denial about it.

I've been 60 pounds overweight and I've been toned and athletic. Though I had "good, understandable reasons" for being fat, there was only one thing standing between gross health problems and a slender, healthy body: WORK. It takes a good 6 months of self discipline, exercising and eating right to lose a big chunk of weight.

This woman has chosen her condition, and that's her right. But obesity is a killer, and what I she were chain smoking, pounding shots of vodka or doing some other incredibly healthy thing on air? We say it's not about her weight but "who she is", but her inability to maintain her health also reflects on her character. I think she said she had three daughters...that's really the audience she needs to set an example for.


Publicity?! He sent here a PRIVATE email.

She's the one who went all Barbara Streisand with it.

Indubitably: mjbok: JeffreyScott: ggecko: He sends her a private email, she goes all global with it (while also admitting she is fat). Then she tries the angle of being "bullied".

If you read what he wrote (privately) and see her public response, I tend to side with him on this one.

Agreed.

If anyone was the bully in this scenario, it was her. She used a public forum to publicly shame someone for sending her an email that was partial opinion (bad role model) and partial fact (she is overweight by her own admission). Should he have sent it, probably not. Her reaction to it was much worse than what he originally did and she used her power to publicly shame and embarrass someone. That is much more of a bully move than sending a private email that says I think you would be a better role model if you weren't unhealthily overweight.

You are moronic.

Who made the issue public? Who discussed it for 10 minutes on the air? Who looked for validation of her opinions from viewers instead of addressing the problem?

Yeah, he's the problem. You can work on personality disorders but I guess being big is something she can't control......

mjbok: Indubitably: You are moronic.

Maybe so, but what part of my post you quoted is incorrect. By definition bullying is "Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone)". He had no strength or power over her, and was not trying to intimidate her. Using her position as someone with a (televised) voice, she used her position to intimidate or belittle what started out as a solitary private email.

It's not so much a defense of him as it is pointing out what she did was more wrong than what he did and closer to the definition of bullying than what he did.

Why do you defend demeaning another human being?

Bronzemom: When the famine comes, all you skinny people will be dead and I will laugh and laugh.
And it WILL come, make no mistake about it.


And when the aliens come...

steamingpile: Indubitably: mjbok: JeffreyScott: ggecko: He sends her a private email, she goes all global with it (while also admitting she is fat). Then she tries the angle of being "bullied".

If you read what he wrote (privately) and see her public response, I tend to side with him on this one.

Agreed.

If anyone was the bully in this scenario, it was her. She used a public forum to publicly shame someone for sending her an email that was partial opinion (bad role model) and partial fact (she is overweight by her own admission). Should he have sent it, probably not. Her reaction to it was much worse than what he originally did and she used her power to publicly shame and embarrass someone. That is much more of a bully move than sending a private email that says I think you would be a better role model if you weren't unhealthily overweight.

You are moronic.

Who made the issue public? Who discussed it for 10 minutes on the air? Who looked for validation of her opinions from viewers instead of addressing the problem?

Yeah, he's the problem. You can work on personality disorders but I guess being big is something she can't control......

Can you control your Farkarrhea?

Indubitably: steamingpile: Indubitably: mjbok: JeffreyScott: ggecko: He sends her a private email, she goes all global with it (while also admitting she is fat). Then she tries the angle of being "bullied".

If you read what he wrote (privately) and see her public response, I tend to side with him on this one.

Agreed.

If anyone was the bully in this scenario, it was her. She used a public forum to publicly shame someone for sending her an email that was partial opinion (bad role model) and partial fact (she is overweight by her own admission). Should he have sent it, probably not. Her reaction to it was much worse than what he originally did and she used her power to publicly shame and embarrass someone. That is much more of a bully move than sending a private email that says I think you would be a better role model if you weren't unhealthily overweight.

You are moronic.

Who made the issue public? Who discussed it for 10 minutes on the air? Who looked for validation of her opinions from viewers instead of addressing the problem?

Yeah, he's the problem. You can work on personality disorders but I guess being big is something she can't control......

Can you control your Farkarrhea?

Cast disorder at your peril, steamingpile...

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: pheelix: Huggermugger: Guys, we weren't born to specifically give you an erection.

Given the fact that women need a man with a boner in order to propagate the species, I consider your statement to be false.

True- the one thing we need you for, and you're notoriously unreliable there. BRING ON THE SPERMBOTS

Notoriously unreliable? You sound fat.

Bronzemom: When the famine comes, all you skinny people will be dead and I will laugh and laugh.
And it WILL come, make no mistake about it.

Because your working on it?

I bet you skinny people are crunchy and good with ketchup.
hmmmm....

mjbok: Bronzemom: When the famine comes, all you skinny people will be dead and I will laugh and laugh.
And it WILL come, make no mistake about it.


And when the aliens come...

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Way to dismiss, dismissive.

P.S. I made you long ago, jackhat.

the chick is a fatty. a bitter fatty.

TOSViolation: DoBeDoBeDo: Nutritionist on the radio brought it up this morning but it's a valid point. Why is it acceptable to confront an alcoholic, or a drug user for what they are doing to themselves but NOT to do the same to a morbidly obese person (and she might say "some doctors chart" but she's morbidly obese on any chart...well maybe not Hutteese but any chart on Earth).

They are essentially destroying themselves in a similar manner, so why is it not acceptable to call them on it?


It is perfectly acceptable. There are simply a disproportionate amount of people in the world who want to live in denial.

Smoking is EVIL, therefore we can bully the Hell out of smokers without feeling bad about it!
Drinking is EVIL, therefore we can bully the Hell out of alcoholics without feeling bad about it!

Being fat is a sign of strength of character that people should be applauded for, based on their courage to be comfortable with who they are, you ASSHOLE!

Smoking is potentially harmful to the people around the smoker. No one got cancer from standing next to the fat guy.
Drinking leads to all sorts of potentially harmful behaviors. You never hear about someone getting beat up because the other person was fat, or someone got killed because they were hit by a driver who was too fat.

Also, not everyone who is fat has a choice in the matter. Yes, I know it's like 1%, but people still have to make the choice to start smoking or drinking, while there are some people who are fat for reasons entirely beyond their control. So giving the fat chick shiat for being a porker might result in everyone hating you for being an insensitive ass-nugget when it turns out she has Hypothyroidism or Cushing's syndrome.

Finally, when you factor in our society's obsession with wanting women to be underweight (trust me, your average Victoria's Secret model or Hollywood starlet is not at a healthy weight), you've got a whole "fark you and your unreasonable expectations for women's bodies" sentiment building these days.

It may not be "fair" but that's why it's socially acceptable to give shiat to smokers and drinkers, but not fat people.