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2012-10-03 04:30:46 PM
Thank farking god.

How many years have these things been in business? And they're obnoxious too -tricking people into clicking their bullshiat links of common search terms.
 
2012-10-03 04:39:04 PM
Good to see the FTC catching up to 1994...
 
2012-10-03 05:01:42 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Thank farking god.

How many years have these things been in business? And they're obnoxious too -tricking people into clicking their bullshiat links of common search terms.


I love the speed up my computer tv adds
those and pharmaceutical ads should be banned
 
2012-10-03 10:16:20 PM
As they should have years ago. Just removed one of those programs from someone's computer about a month ago. The program claimed to have found hundreds of errors (this person's laptop was less than 6 months old) and it also installed a "24/7 live support" application. Fortunately, it was easy to remove.

/ccleaner and spybot for the REAL cleanup solution
 
2012-10-03 11:30:20 PM
Just publish their names and addresses on the Internet.
They'll wish their father's sperm had never met their mother's eggs.
 
2012-10-04 12:30:44 AM
I clicked, twice. Nothing happened, my computer must be infected.
 
2012-10-04 12:38:38 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Thank farking god.

How many years have these things been in business? And they're obnoxious too -tricking people into clicking their bullshiat links of common search terms.


They won't catch them all and they will move onto something else.

Maybe something that isn't so easy to avoid.

Just a thought.

/likes the dumb user buffer
 
2012-10-04 12:38:42 AM
I clicked on one of those once and I was married. He claimed that he was a computer guy and could fix my computer too, so I wouldn't get any more husbands, but he couldn't even do that.
 
2012-10-04 12:41:35 AM
When I first got on the Internet on a fairly regular basis, it was through an iMac, and encountered pop-ups from these kind of sites. My main clue that they were fake? They all looked like Windows' windows, and nothing like Apple's windows. Is that still a viable tell?
 
2012-10-04 12:50:37 AM
I remember getting a thing that said my copy of windows XP was infected.

I must have really sucked at securing my linux pc if my nonexistant windows partition was infected. :P
 
2012-10-04 01:24:56 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Because People in power are Stupid: Thank farking god.

How many years have these things been in business? And they're obnoxious too -tricking people into clicking their bullshiat links of common search terms.

They won't catch them all and they will move onto something else.

Maybe something that isn't so easy to avoid.

Just a thought.

/likes the dumb user buffer


Web Dev friend of mine says he just ran into one that was using straight CSS & HTML 5 to create a hidden hyperlink that follows the user's cursor, so that no matter where they click on the page, it hits the hidden link. Since it's CSS & HTML 5, blocking scripts won't protect you from it. Mix that with a borderless iframe, and you can seriously fark with people without them being aware of it and without them having to do anything other than visit your page.
 
2012-10-04 01:33:08 AM
Good on you, FTC! It's about time someone did something about this.
I haven't had much time to worry about my infected computer, lately, though.
I've been focusing on doing something about my small, insufficiently erect penis, my enlarged prostate gland, my low testosterone level, and a couple of other maladies I treat with a variety of doctor recommended, all-natural, herbal supplements, that I saw on TV.

/Did you know you could double your order for free if you just paid extra processing?
 
2012-10-04 01:34:22 AM
These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.
 
2012-10-04 01:57:19 AM
It'll be nice to not have to remove these from my parents' PCs every three weeks.
 
2012-10-04 02:16:07 AM
I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.


Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.
 
2012-10-04 02:22:50 AM
About time. glad to see this crap go away.
 
2012-10-04 02:38:14 AM

Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.


Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.
 
2012-10-04 03:01:19 AM
I had one that turned on the file hidden flag on all of my files. All of them. Weirdest looking thing because everything still sort of works but the start menu is all but gone and you have to memorize everything in the command prompt.

No, a computer with 2,000 hard drive errors isn't going to work and your software isn't going to fix it.
 
2012-10-04 03:13:29 AM
The scam was simple: Five of the six scammers used telemarketing calls while the sixth used Google ads to draw in unsuspecting customers - often by telling them they worked for legitimate firms like Dell, Microsoft, or McAfee

They called me at work to tell me my computer has a virus and I needed to go into the services and enable something (The computer i had at work is MS-DOS and had only heard rumors of an internet). I said, "Oh no, tell me what to do?" They told me to do something, I asked them to repeat it because my computer is really slow. Then I asked them to repeat that last part again and "what was that?" and " I'm having a hard time understanding your accent" and again? Finally, I said, "Oh I have a Mac." The Microsoft guy from India was dumbfounded.  Well for 20 minutes, I had fun at work.
 
2012-10-04 03:26:31 AM
FTC investigation? In my scam?
It's more likely than you think.
Click here for a free legal consultation.
 
2012-10-04 03:32:51 AM

Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.


I have a friend who works IT for a large corporation ran by people who don't know how computers work, so he is very experienced at removing these false virus warning systems and how to draft emails explaining, carefully, that some porn sites contain viruses and that you shouldn't be surfing those sites on company issued laptops. So he sends me free copies of what he uses at his job and between him and youtube, I've figured out how most of these false warning viruses work. First time I fixed a friend's computer I called him to see what the fix was because I was stumped and he told me how to do it, then explained to me what a fair price would be. Each January 1, I increase that by 5% (average rate of inflation increase, if Walmart and Target can get away with it, so can I).

One lesson I learned the hard way: don't offer to work on your boss's computer before settling on a price first.

This was around Christmas of last year, I was working for a small company and my boss had one of those viruses (not from a porn site, but from a trojan program), I offered to fix it, and it took me a bit, but finally cleared the virus completely. Since it was right before a rather important meeting, I wasn't able to discuss with them compensation. Later she asked me what restaurant my wife and I liked. I answered and my payment was a $50 giftcard to that restaurant. I expected I was going to get shafted like that, which is why I hooked up my terabyte hard drive to that laptop and downloaded all the files from her work computer to my hard drive. I figured I got compensated properly with what I backed up.

As far as charging money for fixing my friend's and family member's computers, I view it this way: they can either pay another company to clear the virus off their computer, or they can pay me. If they're willing to pay another company, they're willing to pay me. My selling point is that I'm not going to snoop on their computers. They can't get that promise from those other computer repair companies. I don't know if those companies do snoop and report things like illegally downloaded movies and music or child porn, but it doesn't mean I can't imply that there is a federal law that requires them to report illegally downloaded media files as part of the patriot act.
 
2012-10-04 06:02:39 AM
Bout goddam time!

/Hang 'em.
//Hang 'em high.
 
2012-10-04 06:40:20 AM
I remember when Deviant Art was infested with the damn things. It was near impossible to visit the site without getting a scareware redirect.
 
2012-10-04 07:12:27 AM

Great Janitor: Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.

I have a friend who works IT for a large corporation r ...


So you are a Thief?
 
2012-10-04 07:19:10 AM
Shoot them. Otherwise they will get out and go right back to it
 
2012-10-04 07:33:41 AM
one word
Fraud
 
2012-10-04 07:38:17 AM

Great Janitor: Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.

I have a friend who works IT for a large corporation r ...


How is that your selling point? lol... you just said you copied your boss' entire hdd.....wtf
 
2012-10-04 08:32:07 AM
t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-04 08:47:12 AM

Optimal_Illusion: When I first got on the Internet on a fairly regular basis, it was through an iMac, and encountered pop-ups from these kind of sites. My main clue that they were fake? They all looked like Windows' windows, and nothing like Apple's windows. Is that still a viable tell?


Security through tiny market share: serving Macs since... forever.
 
2012-10-04 08:50:38 AM
What's funny is that people think that if they avoid porn sites, they'll be safe. Yeah, that baseball game you streamed at lunch? Those coupons you found? They gave you a virus.
 
2012-10-04 08:58:37 AM

Great Janitor: Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.

I have a friend who works IT for a large corporation r ...


Great Janitor: Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.

I have a friend who works IT for a large corporation r ...



You run 2 free utilities (that you did not create) to remove malware for friends and family, and you CHARGE them?
 
2012-10-04 09:00:43 AM

xynix: Good to see the FTC catching up to 1994...


The wheels of justice turn slow...
 
2012-10-04 09:07:10 AM
I had a guy call me at work. Told me their system had detected some files being sent from my computer. I work IT for a county courthouse and knew this guy wasn't one of our network people. The horribly broken English was a sign. i couldn't recognize the accent, though. May have been Nigerian for all I know. The number came from somewhere in Texas.

I told my boss "I just had a malware phone call..."
 
2012-10-04 09:20:27 AM

Great Janitor: continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it


Could you draw me a picture? I've got the big box of Crayolas. Oops, too late I clicked it.
 
2012-10-04 09:20:35 AM

TheGreatGazoo: I had one that turned on the file hidden flag on all of my files. All of them. Weirdest looking thing because everything still sort of works but the start menu is all but gone and you have to memorize everything in the command prompt.

No, a computer with 2,000 hard drive errors isn't going to work and your software isn't going to fix it.


The last one we got around here did that, but also locked out the control panel, wrote over the backups, deleted lots of shortcuts etc, and corrupted the MBR. Thankfully my safely put away images of machines in the office restored the system nicely to fully working order. With how cheap external hard drives and how easy it is to backup and make a disk image nowadays it is an essential tool to life.
 
2012-10-04 09:29:44 AM
I love some of the stories my friend in IT tells me.

*phone rings*

Idiot: "Uh, I downloaded a virus."

Friend: "Was this the well known virus we sent out the paper memo about, as well as several emails warning people specifically not to open ATTACHMENT X."

Idiot: "Uh huh. I opened the email and clicked it."

Friend: "Well, that wasn't very smart, now was it?"

/Repeat until you've made a 40 hour, 50 week career out of it.
//Jesus fark, I wish it took solving a simple math problem to breathe for a day
 
2012-10-04 09:29:56 AM
You know what these psychopaths are? They're unsinkable rubber duckies.
www.youngausskeptics.com

Actually, that doesn't do them justice... The proper metaphor

ww2.hdnux.com
 
2012-10-04 09:40:03 AM

Mr. Potatoass: Good on you, FTC! It's about time someone did something about this.
I haven't had much time to worry about my infected computer, lately, though.
I've been focusing on doing something about my small, insufficiently erect penis, my enlarged prostate gland, my low testosterone level, and a couple of other maladies I treat with a variety of doctor recommended, all-natural, herbal supplements, that I saw on TV.

/Did you know you could double your order for free if you just paid extra processing?


You could solve all of those problems with this one little secret...
 
2012-10-04 09:46:45 AM
I am intrigued by your website's ability to detect problems with my computer. Would you happen to know why my computer is running so slowly? Also, I've been looking for a hot woman, preferably Eastern European, who is interested in having sex with me although she's never met me.
 
2012-10-04 09:57:16 AM

JunkyJu: Great Janitor: Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.

I have a friend who works IT for a larg ...


What does the cost of the utility have to do with it? His time and effort are not free.
 
2012-10-04 10:19:44 AM
Speaking of malware etc., did anyone click on the Michelle Bachmann link from FARK?

/prolly missed the thread about it

//first read it as "Date" her rather than "Update"

///shudder
 
2012-10-04 10:30:29 AM

JunkyJu: You run 2 free utilities (that you did not create) to remove malware for friends and family, and you CHARGE them?


I don't anymore, actually. I simply refuse to work on the computers of family and friends, under the exact same principle as loaning money - I am not giving you endless amounts of my time for free because you're an idiot. Before I had this policy, I was giving endless amounts of my time away, for free, because friends and family were idiots.

/I now have much more free time to use how I want to use it
 
2012-10-04 10:42:44 AM
Ron Paul would never stand for this intrusion in the free market. Audit the FTC!
 
2012-10-04 10:57:13 AM
If they get rid of these now how will my staff figure out ways to mess up my offices computers?
 
2012-10-04 11:10:43 AM

Troy McClure: Ron Paul would never stand for this intrusion in the free market. Audit the FTC!


This! I can decide which malware scam sites I click on and infect my computer myself, why does the government have to get involved?
 
2012-10-04 11:35:42 AM

TheGreatGazoo: I had one that turned on the file hidden flag on all of my files. All of them. Weirdest looking thing because everything still sort of works but the start menu is all but gone and you have to memorize everything in the command prompt.

No, a computer with 2,000 hard drive errors isn't going to work and your software isn't going to fix it.


Just spent 2 days getting that one off my son's computer. And the other 27 virii and malware/spyware he got onto it by "not torrenting."
 
2012-10-04 11:53:12 AM

Tobin_Lam: JunkyJu: Great Janitor: Shakes999: Great Janitor: I'm on the fence on these. First of all, I would love to see these assholes arrested, convicted and have their hands cut off. Though honestly, that might be too good for them.

On the flip side, I know a lot of people who fall for these and pay me $200/hour to remove them from their machines, so the FTC cracking down on them is going to cut down on some extra cash I was making.

Chagrin: These "your computer is infected!" virus pop ups aren't the ones being targeted. These are telemarketing companies -- primarily based in India it appears.

Your "PC Power Speed", "Antivirus XP 2008", etc. companies are free to continue doing business as they have been.

What a country.

Oh...never mind, I was getting paid by people to remove the Antivirus XP 20XX shiat off their computers. So nothing is really changing.

/continue telling friends "if the antivirus you didn't purposely download is asking you for money to clear off all the viruses it suddenly found, don't do it
//Instead call me, I'll do it.
///$200/hour, or for a good looking woman, whiskey and a blowjob.

Wow, I am doing it wrong. Ive been fixing my friends computers for free for years.

However, I am fascinated by how sophisticated spyware and garbage has become, everytime I think I have a typical solution figured out, they surprise me and make me learn more about how a computer works.

The last one that stumped me was my buddy hit a page that installed one that was almost a mirror image of windows defender. Except it kept asking for a credit card. It had me fooled for about 5 mins or so. The only thing that saved my friend was the site that accepted Debit card numbers had already been taken down. Then you have to explain to them putting your debit card in to the first thing that asks is a bad idea.

The thing had the whole system on lock. It was because of it I learned about Combo Fix and RKill. When Malwarebytes just isnt enough.

I have a friend who works IT f ...


And that is why I charge. If someone wants to borrow the software, fine, have at it. If they want me to do it, I charge. The complaint of me charging money for knowing how to fix a computer with free software that I did not create is like asking someone to mow your lawn with your lawn mower and then complaining that he wants to be paid for the time spent mowing your yard.

Having to fix a computer means taking time out of my schedule. It also means that with some people, having to follow up later and explain to them that it is back on their computer, not because I failed to remove it, but because they went back to that same website and caught it again, and no, it isn't free this time. One reason that I charge is that I don't like doing it. It takes time and it the computer owner is an idiot with computers he is going to blame me for the next year for every problem that computer has. "No, your problem isn't that I did a bad job last time, it is that you are running seven different tool bars."
 
2012-10-04 11:59:04 AM
Having just rebuilt my computer after going to a web site which unleached the "Platium Anti-virus" on my computer, which blew through my AVG Free protection like a hot knife though butter, I'm not getting a kick out of this. The damn thing screwed with my winsock, host files, windows update, redirected my firewall cpl program, disabled my firewall, and about a billion other things. Was able to get everything working again, but something was still forcing my internet to a slow crawl, so ended doing the rebuild. Love a pristine system, hate the 2 hours to do the rebuild.
 
2012-10-04 12:06:00 PM

Great Janitor: And that is why I charge. If someone wants to borrow the software, fine, have at it. If they want me to do it, I charge. The complaint of me charging money for knowing how to fix a computer with free software that I did not create is like asking someone to mow your lawn with your lawn mower and then complaining that he wants to be paid for the time spent mowing your yard.

Having to fix a computer means taking time out of my schedule. It also means that with some people, having to follow up later and explain to them that it is back on their computer, not because I failed to remove it, but because they went back to that same website and caught it again, and no, it isn't free this time. One reason that I charge is that I don't like doing it. It takes time and it the computer owner is an idiot with computers he is going to blame me for the next year for every problem that computer has. "No, your problem isn't that I did a bad job last time, it is that you are running seven different tool bars."


Precisely. They are paying me for the knowledge of these programs, and for my ability to work based off what I find using them.

Of course, now I'm getting paid by a university to do this sort of stuff, so it all works out in the end. At least for me and the students I support; they save tons of money if they make sure to come to me first. They get free tier 3 tech support and computer repairs, and I get paid and job security.

/I do feel bad for whoever eventually replaces me though
//students are probably going to riot
 
2012-10-04 12:53:31 PM
I haven't seen one of those sites in a few years. They're still around?
 
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