Okay. That's an awesome headline.

I'd say "this will end badly" but maybe it will expedite an end to Assad's murderous tyranny.

It'd been nice knowing y'all. (heads out with 'the end is nigh!' sign)

Thanksgiving has taken on an altogether more ominous feeling.

Maybe I'll buy a ham this time.

WTF Indeed: As the subby of the greenlit one, I'd gladly give it up for this one.

your wish is the mods' command, apparently.

so...how long until Syria uses its chemical weapons on someone?

Girion47: intelligent comment below: This is what happens when America does nothing to solve real humanitarian crises and drags its feel complaining about Russia and China blocking in the UN. Sure didn't stop them in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Libya, or or or.

It isn't our job to meddle in disputes between other countries, thats what gets us attacked by terrorists.

I thought what gets us attacked by terrorists are movies on Youtube?

intelligent comment below: This is what happens when America does nothing to solve real humanitarian crises and drags its feel complaining about Russia and China blocking in the UN. Sure didn't stop them in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Libya, or or or.

Your comment isn't intelligent.

Do you want to get into a shooting war with China and Russia?

Border skirmish... I doubt Syria is dumb enough to take this further- it was Turkey's way of telling them to keep it on their side of the border.

I think...

Ladies and gentlemen, the Shi'ite has hit the fan.

kvinesknows: what kind of damage did Turkey retaliatory attack do? that seems unclear to me

do you have a spy plane available? it will be awhile before we find out

Chances are Turkey will claim they killed the mortar crew and Syria will claim the counter attack killed an entire preschool

Hmm, part of me wonders if this could be the Syrian rebels stirring up conflict since an attack on Turkey constitutes an attack on NATO and could serve them if they come in and help to topple a regime.

I'm a Turk so conspiratorial thinking is second nature to me.

Diogenes: I'd say "this will end badly" but maybe it will expedite an end to Assad's murderous tyranny.

Yeah, I'd tend to think that maybe Syria's bitten off more than they can chew on this one.

kvinesknows: what kind of damage did Turkey retaliatory attack do? that seems unclear to me

Turkey's a NATO member. If they invoke Article 5, all member nations are obligated to assist in a military strike.

WTF Indeed: As the subby of the greenlit one, I'd gladly give it up for this one.

As the subby of this one, thankyou :)

At some point turmoil must happen to reset long brewing problems in a region when it can not through other means. I would love to see violence to not be used to solve this issues but it seems to me things are such an impasse in this region that that is almost impossible. It's a lot like WW I and WW II. Which forced realignment of global powers over Europe (each a different region).

I wonder if the middle east is the same way now. That the only way to go forward is a reset that will be caused through violence. it already has somewhat with the revolutions in countries. I am not saying it's a good thing, I am just saying it might be the only way forward for these nations because I don't think you will find enough good-faith participants to fix what needs to be done without it. Too many people have lots of money because of the status quo. In some ways having the oil hurts them because they have entrenched interests to keep the status quo and not do what's right.

coco ebert: Hmm, part of me wonders if this could be the Syrian rebels stirring up conflict since an attack on Turkey constitutes an attack on NATO and could serve them if they come in and help to topple a regime.

I'm a Turk so conspiratorial thinking is second nature to me.

That would not surprise me, although they could've aimed it somewhere else.

If Iran and Israel get involved, we'll have ourselves a Turducken.