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(Washington Post)   That loud sucking sound you hear is the Jets   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 73
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2012-10-03 02:22:55 PM  

Dafatone: The Jets aren't THAT bad. They have a defense. At least kind of.

Tough-ish schedule means they'll wind up with 6-8 wins, is my guess

Although really, who knows where their offense is coming from. Shonn Greene is useless.

Got a hunch they play Houston tight.


Yeah they do have a defense, and man are those guys tired.
 
2012-10-03 02:34:18 PM  

Jubeebee: grinding_journalist: NutznGum: Unless your point was that the Jets never had a chance to begin with which I wholeheartedly agree with.

That was indeed my original point, though I feel like in football, the addition of a single player makes the least amount of difference, as compared to hockey/basketball/baseball. (Unless it's a QB, but then again, the Colts didn't "only" lose Manning; they lost defensive starters and some of their O-Line.) A WR/RB/TE/etc? Those holes can generally be filled.

I'll agree that losing a running back isn't a huge deal, but a number of teams have single players that they bank their entire seasons on. Imagine the Bengals offense without AJ Green, or the Patriots defense without Vince Wilfork. Yeah, the Ravens have gotten by without Terrell Suggs just fine, but the Steelers regress more when Hair Polamalu is out than when Rapey Ben is out. It's not just QBs who are important.


The Patriots have a defense?
 
2012-10-03 03:00:04 PM  

NeoCortex42:
The Patriots have a defense?


The best defense is a good offense?
 
2012-10-03 03:06:34 PM  

Jubeebee: Yeah, the Ravens have gotten by without Terrell Suggs just fine


The Ravens have dropped from 3rd in the league (yardage and points against) on defense to 23rd (yardage) and 21st (scoring) this season. Certainly it's more than "just" losing Suggs (they lost two key starters to free agency), but it's definitely hurt them. If it weren't for the offense stepping up like it has (and like New York's hasn't) the Ravens could easily be 1-3 right now.
 
2012-10-03 03:09:36 PM  

Gunny Highway: Kornchex: Maybe they just need Mike Greenberg to spend more time talking about the Jets. That would be awesome.

Those clowns are still on the air? And people still listen?

Golik is the most annoying radio personality I have ever heard. And that was 3 years ago.


I think mike & mike have a long way to go to unseat cowheard in the annoying dept.
 
2012-10-03 03:19:33 PM  

beerrun: NeoCortex42:
The Patriots have a defense?

The best defense is a good offense?


I was going to put Patriots "defense" originally, but I forgot.

Harv72b: The Ravens have dropped from 3rd in the league (yardage and points against) on defense to 23rd (yardage) and 21st (scoring) this season. Certainly it's more than "just" losing Suggs (they lost two key starters to free agency), but it's definitely hurt them. If it weren't for the offense stepping up like it has (and like New York's hasn't) the Ravens could easily be 1-3 right now.


This I did not know. But it does back up my point.
 
2012-10-03 04:12:05 PM  
Prepare to be annoyed, I am about to ask a fantasy football question:

Who would you start this week in a WR/RB flex spot, Cedric Benson (vs. IND) or Brian Hartline (vs. CIN)?

Have Jordy Nelson, Dwayne Bowe, Ray Rice and AP in the primary spots, 10 team league with deeeep benches (10 bench slots, but there are 3 individual D players, so you need a couple more than a standard league to cover bye weeks).

/Other options include Hakeem Nicks (hurt, status uncertain), Andrew Hawkins, and Kendall Hunter.
//Proceed with cries for me to GTFO with the fake football questions
 
2012-10-03 04:22:23 PM  

Kornchex: Maybe they just need Mike Greenberg to spend more time talking about the Jets. That would be awesome.


no shiat...I don't listen to mike and mike much, but when greeny starts in about the jets, it just makes me want to hurl.
 
2012-10-03 04:24:51 PM  

domdare: Harv72b: kronicfeld: Being the "Best Offensive Player" on the Jets is like winning first prize in a leper colony beauty pageant.

Oh, come on! They're nothing alike!!

/The leper actually wins a trophy.

The leper colony beauty pageant was pretty good until the host asked everyone to give the winner a hand. That was awkward.


yeah, and that one leper was late getting there. during the drive she left his foot on the gas. then a few of them jumped into the hot-tub...soup.
 
2012-10-03 04:26:09 PM  
START TEBOW!

...wait, Holmes?

START TEBOW AT WIDE RECEIVER!
 
2012-10-03 04:26:30 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: ***snip***
/Other options include Hakeem Nicks (hurt, status uncertain), Andrew Hawkins, and Kendall Hunter.
//Proceed with cries for me to GTFO with the fake football questions


Hartline. No way Benson gets enough carries to matter this week. GB is playing the worst D they have faced all year.
 
2012-10-03 04:30:04 PM  

roc6783: GB is playing the worst D they have faced all year.


Unless you count the Saints, but it's iffy whether or not they can truly be considered a "defense".
 
2012-10-03 04:32:33 PM  
my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food Who would you start this week in a WR/RB flex spot, Cedric Benson (vs. IND) or Brian Hartline (vs. CIN)?

I wish I had either one of those guys this week. Hartline is third in the entire NFL in targets, and the Bengals are not that great against the pass. Benson is the main man in Green Bay and will get all the carries to keep the Colts honest, and will be used heavily if the Packers get way ahead, which is the most likely scenario in that game. I myself would go with Benson as he is more likely to get multiple TDs.
 
2012-10-03 04:42:47 PM  

roc6783: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: ***snip***
/Other options include Hakeem Nicks (hurt, status uncertain), Andrew Hawkins, and Kendall Hunter.
//Proceed with cries for me to GTFO with the fake football questions

Hartline. No way Benson gets enough carries to matter this week. GB is playing the worst D they have faced all year.



varmitydog: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food Who would you start this week in a WR/RB flex spot, Cedric Benson (vs. IND) or Brian Hartline (vs. CIN)?

I wish I had either one of those guys this week. Hartline is third in the entire NFL in targets, and the Bengals are not that great against the pass. Benson is the main man in Green Bay and will get all the carries to keep the Colts honest, and will be used heavily if the Packers get way ahead, which is the most likely scenario in that game. I myself would go with Benson as he is more likely to get multiple TDs.


Ahhhhhhhh, see, this is almost EXACTLY the internal debate in my head.

/I don't know why I would expect Fark to provide any clarity on my dilemna.
//I'm 3-1 and in 3rd place though, I need this win!
///What matters more, the GB running back in what might be a blowout, or the hottest receiver in the league, who might have just had a fluke week and has a rookie QB throwing him the ball?
//I know whatever I decide will be wrong though
/Leaning towards Benson because I feel like his floor might be a little higher

/But...Hartline...
 
2012-10-03 04:45:18 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: roc6783: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: ***snip***
/Other options include Hakeem Nicks (hurt, status uncertain), Andrew Hawkins, and Kendall Hunter.
//Proceed with cries for me to GTFO with the fake football questions

Hartline. No way Benson gets enough carries to matter this week. GB is playing the worst D they have faced all year.


varmitydog: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food Who would you start this week in a WR/RB flex spot, Cedric Benson (vs. IND) or Brian Hartline (vs. CIN)?

I wish I had either one of those guys this week. Hartline is third in the entire NFL in targets, and the Bengals are not that great against the pass. Benson is the main man in Green Bay and will get all the carries to keep the Colts honest, and will be used heavily if the Packers get way ahead, which is the most likely scenario in that game. I myself would go with Benson as he is more likely to get multiple TDs.

Ahhhhhhhh, see, this is almost EXACTLY the internal debate in my head.

/I don't know why I would expect Fark to provide any clarity on my dilemna.
//I'm 3-1 and in 3rd place though, I need this win!
///What matters more, the GB running back in what might be a blowout, or the hottest receiver in the league, who might have just had a fluke week and has a rookie QB throwing him the ball?
//I know whatever I decide will be wrong though
/Leaning towards Benson because I feel like his floor might be a little higher

/But...Hartline...


I'd say Benson. Packers seem to have rediscovered the run and they'll probably be playing with their most comfortable lead yet. If Hartline has another 200-yard game I'll eat my hat.
 
2012-10-03 04:46:33 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: /Leaning towards Benson because I feel like his floor might be a little higher


This. Indy is giving up 131 yards & 1 TD/game on the ground.

/The rest of the league sees target stats, too. Hartline is going to be smothered by Bengals' DBs.
 
2012-10-03 05:03:03 PM  
no, it's the voice of god.

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-10-03 05:09:12 PM  

SlothB77: their owner is named Woody Johnson and prefers Romney wins than the Jets win.


The former is more likely to happen.
 
2012-10-03 05:11:48 PM  

Super Chronic: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: roc6783: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: ***snip***

I'd say Benson. Packers seem to have rediscovered the run and they'll probably be playing with their most comfortable lead yet. If Hartline has another 200-yard game I'll eat my hat.


HAHAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHAHA...no, really. If Benson can't generate 4+ ypc, McCarthy will move FAR away from running until very late in the 4th. Either one is a gamble, but Hartline will likely draw more attention going forward. You're basically hoping that either Benson can snarf a TD or that Hartline goes like Miles Austin rather than Ogletree.
 
2012-10-03 05:27:48 PM  

Wolfmanjames: SlothB77: their owner is named Woody Johnson and prefers Romney wins than the Jets win.

The former is more likely to happen.


Oh, come on. The Jets aren't that bad. Hell, even the 0-4 teams aren't that bad!
 
2012-10-03 06:42:29 PM  

roc6783: Super Chronic: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: roc6783: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: ***snip***

I'd say Benson. Packers seem to have rediscovered the run and they'll probably be playing with their most comfortable lead yet. If Hartline has another 200-yard game I'll eat my hat.

HAHAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHAHA...no, really. If Benson can't generate 4+ ypc, McCarthy will move FAR away from running until very late in the 4th. Either one is a gamble, but Hartline will likely draw more attention going forward. You're basically hoping that either Benson can snarf a TD or that Hartline goes like Miles Austin rather than Ogletree.


Well there would have been plenty of good responses to my post, but frankly that wasn't one of them. Benson has had 17 to 20 carries in each of the last three games. In the second of those three games, he essentially carried the team in the second half as the team went pass, pass, pass in the first half and saw Rodgers get sacked 9 times. In the second half they made the startling discovery that a run game can help them overcome problems with the pass rush. Oh and by the way, Dwight Freeney is likely coming back this week.
 
2012-10-03 07:03:17 PM  

Dafatone: Got a hunch they play Houston tight.


In their last 8 games with Matt Schaub as a starter the Texans are 8-0 with an average margin of victory greater than 20.

I'll be surprised if the Jets score 14.
 
2012-10-03 11:32:18 PM  
I don't know why Jets fans are worried about this. Rex Ryan does magical things with feet.
 
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