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2012-10-03 10:03:22 AM
How the heck was that 20 years ago?
 
2012-10-03 10:30:15 AM

Hanky: How the heck was that 20 years ago?

Automatic For The People

was released 20 years ago, too.
 
2012-10-03 11:04:28 AM

hillbillypharmacist: Hanky: How the heck was that 20 years ago?

Automatic For The People was released 20 years ago, too.


School daze, UCSB. Good times, good times.
 
2012-10-03 11:10:46 AM
Ross Perot totally called it at the 3:30 minute mark.
 
2012-10-03 11:18:53 AM
Subby forgot to add in "Should we have left the job in Iraq unfinished?"
 
2012-10-03 11:25:18 AM
Thank you for reminding people that businessmen as politicians suck.
 
2012-10-03 11:28:49 AM

hillbillypharmacist: Hanky: How the heck was that 20 years ago?

Automatic For The People was released 20 years ago, too.


Which I've always thought of as being the beginning of REM's "late" period. First time I saw them live was on the Reckoning tour, and I've always regretted that I was so late to the party.

/old.
 
2012-10-03 11:29:52 AM
Whew! We really dodged a bullet not electing that big-eared kook. Look at how wrong about everything he was. Oh, wait...
/Party Uber Alles
 
2012-10-03 11:49:26 AM
The bigg laffs were in the VP debates that year.
 
2012-10-03 11:50:14 AM
The working class? That's adorable. They were still pretending to worry about the working class 20 years ago, in exactly the same way they still pretend to worry about the middle class today.

In another 20 years, they'll pretend to care about the lower upper class. "Even though your meager income of only $750,000.00 per year means you can't make meaningful contributions to my superpac, I am still concerned about your well-being. If elected, I promise to preserve the tax deduction for your second home..."
 
2012-10-03 11:57:06 AM

Karac: Subby forgot to add in "Should we have left the job in Iraq unfinished?"


In the year of our Lord, 1992 ,the "job in Iraq" was most decidedly finished.
 
2012-10-03 12:16:41 PM
I actually remember that very well and I was leaning towards Perot because of mostly cultural influences - raised in Texas in a boot strappy military community. But my SO at the time was a European educated chick who insisted we get involved and informed about the issues and she swayed me to vote for Clinton. And I'm glad I did.

I hope the mods green light more of these historical debates in the next few weeks just so everyone can see how these issues are exactly the same 20 years later...and more.

Thanks, Subby.
 
2012-10-03 12:29:27 PM

Degenz: I actually remember that very well and I was leaning towards Perot because of mostly cultural influences - raised in Texas in a boot strappy military community. But my SO at the time was a European educated chick who insisted we get involved and informed about the issues and she swayed me to vote for Clinton. And I'm glad I did.

I hope the mods green light more of these historical debates in the next few weeks just so everyone can see how these issues are exactly the same 20 years later...and more.

Thanks, Subby.


Yeah, good thing Perot was wrong about NAFTA and outsourcing. Oh wait...
 
2012-10-03 12:43:54 PM
Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.

• Why is the president using executive privilege to cover up who in his administration is responsible for the bloody "Fast & Furious" massacres? And how does he feel about yet another border agent being murdered by the kinds of people he's been giving guns to?

• Exactly who, outside of the president's immediate family, political cronies, and Sandra Fluke's parade of boyfriends is better off than they were four years ago?

• Why is the price of health insurance and healthcare treatment going up for almost all Americans when the president promised Obamacare would bend the cost curve downward?

• When the president tells Russia he'll have "more flexibility" after the election, what exactly does that mean - and why doesn't he want voters to know about it now?

• Why did the president tell the world that the attack in Benghazi was not terrorism when he knew that it was? Why hasn't he even initiated an investigation to find those who murdered our Ambassador and Navy Seals? Followup question: Did the president really think killing Bin Laden was the same as defeating Al-Qaeda?

• Why is the president against school choice, considering it is poor minority communities who are hurt worst by our current school system?

• Why hasn't the president asked the Democrat Senate to produce even one budget during his entire first term? And why is the Commander-in-Chief ready to accept crippling cuts to the military budget because his alleged "supercommittee" couldn't find any budget cuts acceptable to the president's party?

• What steps is the president taking to prevent going over the fiscal cliff in approximately 90 days, raising taxes across the board and, according to every expert, forcing this country into a new and deeper recession?

• Why has the president taken barely half of his Daily Intel briefings, was it getting in the way of playing golf?
 
2012-10-03 12:44:40 PM
this is my first approved link in a while. I saw ross on the cover of usa today a couple days ago, and it got me thinking and wanting to see what things were like back in 92 (I was 11 years old, just old enough to find him and his mannerisms hilarious).

Listened to this whole thing last night, and was just like... wow. Nothing really has changed, has it? its the same talking points through and through. I think if he didnt have a confused (albeit a national hero if you read about him) admiral stockdale as his VP, and didnt drop out and drop back in that he honestly had a great chance to be president.
 
2012-10-03 12:44:53 PM

penetrating_virga: Ross Perot totally called it at the 3:30 minute mark.

 

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-03 12:45:52 PM

Brick-House: Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.

• Why is the president using executive privilege to cover up who in his administration is responsible for the bloody "Fast & Furious" massacres? And how does he feel about yet another border agent being murdered by the kinds of people he's been giving guns to?

• Exactly who, outside of the president's immediate family, political cronies, and Sandra Fluke's parade of boyfriends is better off than they were four years ago?

• Why is the price of health insurance and healthcare treatment going up for almost all Americans when the president promised Obamacare would bend the cost curve downward?

• When the president tells Russia he'll have "more flexibility" after the election, what exactly does that mean - and why doesn't he want voters to know about it now?

• Why did the president tell the world that the attack in Benghazi was not terrorism when he knew that it was? Why hasn't he even initiated an investigation to find those who murdered our Ambassador and Navy Seals? Followup question: Did the president really think killing Bin Laden was the same as defeating Al-Qaeda?

• Why is the president against school choice, considering it is poor minority communities who are hurt worst by our current school system?

• Why hasn't the president asked the Democrat Senate to produce even one budget during his entire first term? And why is the Commander-in-Chief ready to accept crippling cuts to the military budget because his alleged "supercommittee" couldn't find any budget cuts acceptable to the president's party?

• What steps is the president taking to prevent going over the fiscal cliff in approximately 90 days, raising taxes across the board and, according to every expert, forcing this country into a new and deeper recession?

• Why has the president taken barely half of his Daily Intel briefings, was it getting in the way of playing golf?


You forgot the FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW part of that cut & paste.
 
2012-10-03 12:49:21 PM
Pfft, you should've heard Franklin Pierce's first zinger against Winfield Scott in 1852 - now that was a debate!
 
2012-10-03 12:52:45 PM
If Perot hadn't picked Stockdale as his running mate, I think he would have done better. I was ->this
 
2012-10-03 12:53:56 PM
Chick at 13:58 is so 90's hot.
 
2012-10-03 12:59:43 PM

machoprogrammer: Yeah, good thing Perot was wrong about NAFTA and outsourcing. Oh wait...


Yeah, presidential candidates say things and then when they are elected they find out the reality is they aren't emperors - there's a couple of chambers of congress to deal with. The electorate, the people who vote, at some point matures and understands the game and uses their thinking skills to separate hyperbole from reality.

Obama promised to close Gitmo but all the republicans and quite a few democrats opposed housing those inmates on our mainland out of some vague fear that they might escape, or some other stupid bullshiat. This despite the fact that we imprison far more dangerous criminals successfully in our various super max facilities. But the congress denied the funding and that was the end of that.

Had Perot been elected he would have discovered the same kind of truth as Obama...he's not the farking King. And for that matter, so would Ron Paul. Just because you like the guy for wanting to legalize weed and forgive your student loans doesn't mean it will actually happen.
 
2012-10-03 01:24:37 PM

Degenz: machoprogrammer: Yeah, good thing Perot was wrong about NAFTA and outsourcing. Oh wait...

Yeah, presidential candidates say things and then when they are elected they find out the reality is they aren't emperors - there's a couple of chambers of congress to deal with. The electorate, the people who vote, at some point matures and understands the game and uses their thinking skills to separate hyperbole from reality.

Obama promised to close Gitmo but all the republicans and quite a few democrats opposed housing those inmates on our mainland out of some vague fear that they might escape, or some other stupid bullshiat. This despite the fact that we imprison far more dangerous criminals successfully in our various super max facilities. But the congress denied the funding and that was the end of that.

Had Perot been elected he would have discovered the same kind of truth as Obama...he's not the farking King. And for that matter, so would Ron Paul. Just because you like the guy for wanting to legalize weed and forgive your student loans doesn't mean it will actually happen.


You're right.. I'm positive that Perot and Paul would've just caved into the wishes of the opposing parties and wouldn't have made any headway on our economy. So vote Democrat right?!
 
2012-10-03 01:31:19 PM

Degenz: machoprogrammer: Yeah, good thing Perot was wrong about NAFTA and outsourcing. Oh wait...

Yeah, presidential candidates say things and then when they are elected they find out the reality is they aren't emperors - there's a couple of chambers of congress to deal with. The electorate, the people who vote, at some point matures and understands the game and uses their thinking skills to separate hyperbole from reality.

Obama promised to close Gitmo but all the republicans and quite a few democrats opposed housing those inmates on our mainland out of some vague fear that they might escape, or some other stupid bullshiat. This despite the fact that we imprison far more dangerous criminals successfully in our various super max facilities. But the congress denied the funding and that was the end of that.

Had Perot been elected he would have discovered the same kind of truth as Obama...he's not the farking King. And for that matter, so would Ron Paul. Just because you like the guy for wanting to legalize weed and forgive your student loans doesn't mean it will actually happen.


Basically, what I am saying is Perot was a smart dude. Smarter than either Bush (either one) or Clinton. He wasn't exactly a media darling and said some stupid stuff (ala Bush 2 and Biden), but the guy knew his economics
 
2012-10-03 01:35:49 PM

phedex: I think if he didnt have a confused (albeit a national hero if you read about him) admiral stockdale as his VP,


Stocldale was confused because he was only given a week's notice of the debate and wasn't given any kind of formal prep - Perot and his team basically pushed him onstage and somehow expected him to effectively debate professional life-long politicians on a national stage.
 
2012-10-03 01:38:08 PM

Brick-House: Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.

• Why is the president using executive privilege to cover up who in his administration is responsible for the bloody "Fast & Furious" massacres? And how does he feel about yet another border agent being murdered by the kinds of people he's been giving guns to?

• Exactly who, outside of the president's immediate family, political cronies, and Sandra Fluke's parade of boyfriends is better off than they were four years ago?

• Why is the price of health insurance and healthcare treatment going up for almost all Americans when the president promised Obamacare would bend the cost curve downward?

• When the president tells Russia he'll have "more flexibility" after the election, what exactly does that mean - and why doesn't he want voters to know about it now?

• Why did the president tell the world that the attack in Benghazi was not terrorism when he knew that it was? Why hasn't he even initiated an investigation to find those who murdered our Ambassador and Navy Seals? Followup question: Did the president really think killing Bin Laden was the same as defeating Al-Qaeda?

• Why is the president against school choice, considering it is poor minority communities who are hurt worst by our current school system?

• Why hasn't the president asked the Democrat Senate to produce even one budget during his entire first term? And why is the Commander-in-Chief ready to accept crippling cuts to the military budget because his alleged "supercommittee" couldn't find any budget cuts acceptable to the president's party?

• What steps is the president taking to prevent going over the fiscal cliff in approximately 90 days, raising taxes across the board and, according to every expert, forcing this country into a new and deeper recession?

• Why has the president taken barely half of his Daily Intel briefings, was it getting in the way of playing golf?


So you would like to make up a bunch of falsehoods and strawmen and discuss them with the president? Yeah, I don't think that would really be helpful in a debate at all.
 
2012-10-03 02:06:26 PM

manimal2878: Brick-House: Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.

• Why is the president using executive privilege to cover up who in his administration is responsible for the bloody "Fast & Furious" massacres? And how does he feel about yet another border agent being murdered by the kinds of people he's been giving guns to?

• Exactly who, outside of the president's immediate family, political cronies, and Sandra Fluke's parade of boyfriends is better off than they were four years ago?

• Why is the price of health insurance and healthcare treatment going up for almost all Americans when the president promised Obamacare would bend the cost curve downward?

• When the president tells Russia he'll have "more flexibility" after the election, what exactly does that mean - and why doesn't he want voters to know about it now?

• Why did the president tell the world that the attack in Benghazi was not terrorism when he knew that it was? Why hasn't he even initiated an investigation to find those who murdered our Ambassador and Navy Seals? Followup question: Did the president really think killing Bin Laden was the same as defeating Al-Qaeda?

• Why is the president against school choice, considering it is poor minority communities who are hurt worst by our current school system?

• Why hasn't the president asked the Democrat Senate to produce even one budget during his entire first term? And why is the Commander-in-Chief ready to accept crippling cuts to the military budget because his alleged "supercommittee" couldn't find any budget cuts acceptable to the president's party?

• What steps is the president taking to prevent going over the fiscal cliff in approximately 90 days, raising taxes across the board and, according to every expert, forcing this country into a new and deeper recession?

• Why has the president taken barely half of his Daily Intel briefings, was it getting in the way of playing golf?

So you would like to make up a bunch of falsehoods and strawmen and discuss them with the president? Yeah, I don't think that would really be helpful in a debate at all.


Making up an imaginary Obama and then debating him worked great for Clint Eastwood at the convention. People loved that.

But Romney is trying to lower expectations for tonights debate, and let people know he might look just a little more sad, old, and confused than Clint Eastwood. Because, you know, Romney isn't one of the iconic actors of his generation. And also because the real Obama isn't just an empty chair occupied by an imaginary Republican projection.
 
2012-10-03 02:17:30 PM

penetrating_virga: You're right.. I'm positive that Perot and Paul would've just caved into the wishes of the opposing parties and wouldn't have made any headway on our economy. So vote Democrat right?!


Assuming your state allows a write-in vote then cast it for whomever you like, I don't particularly care. Both Perot and Paul were un-electectable just because they are goofy. Like it or not that's the reality of the situation.

machoprogrammer: Basically, what I am saying is Perot was a smart dude. Smarter than either Bush (either one) or Clinton. He wasn't exactly a media darling and said some stupid stuff (ala Bush 2 and Biden), but the guy knew his economics

 

I know. I lived through all those years where Perot gained prominence back in the 80s when he was appointed to overhaul the Texas education system. I know exactly where he stood on the issues. People in Texas loved that shiat because he blamed the government for every conceivable ill while also making massive profits off his EDS company that had a gazillion dollar contract with SS. He was a tech billionaire long before Bill Gates traded in that old Buick for a Mercedes. Perot is your typical tea bagger; sucking off the government dime while biatching that brown people are lazy.

And that's why 2012 is so much like 1992: the so-called conservatives ran up a massive debt and now want to campaign against a problem they in fact caused. They never gave two shiats about borrowing from China until election day 2008, and then they suddenly found their religion. fark 'em.

fark 'em all.
 
2012-10-03 02:30:21 PM

Brick-House: Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.


Yes but not for the reasons you might think.
 
2012-10-03 02:33:56 PM

jayhawk88: Brick-House: Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.

Yes but not for the reasons you might think.


Now I'm tempted to ask in the debate: "Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?" just to see them attempt to answer and then pause in confusion as the question goes through their mind again.
 
2012-10-03 02:51:57 PM
Caught this on TV the other night.

What's old is new again.
 
2012-10-03 03:21:24 PM

Brick-House: BIG HUGE DUMP


If only you had gotten here sooner, this would have been a much more epic thread-shiatting.
 
2012-10-03 04:24:01 PM
Brick-House:

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Here are a few of the questions I would like to be asked of the Prez. Sadly, I doubt many of any will.

• Lemon, Wet, Good.

• Derp!

• Herp!

• WHARGARBLE!

• WHAR!

• Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

• potatoe!

• Where is potty?

• too late, I made thread poopys.


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2012-10-05 10:33:59 AM
Same issues that will never be farking solved. The "Executive" and the hopeful will sure talk about it. People will still buy the same bullshiat and accept the great two party "democracy" they have. Live in a farking dream the remainder of their life because they are constantly being told what to buy, what to think and what to do. We'll still be shiat on and managed like cattle to satisfy the greed of the 1% who have no limit to the wealth and power they can consume.

Get used to it, you'll see it every 4 years.
 
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