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2012-10-03 11:45:17 AM  
At least the Angels will finish the season with a winning record.

/Looking at you, Boston.
//Maybe at you, too, Philadelphia
 
2012-10-03 12:50:39 PM  
May the Angels be cursed until the day they change their name to something sensible.
 
2012-10-03 12:52:56 PM  
This is going to be one hell of a game!
 
2012-10-03 12:53:06 PM  
Sad to see Al go, but I cant say we aren't better off without him.
 
2012-10-03 12:55:49 PM  
when it comes to payroll, the A's can start mocking the Angels four weeks ago.
 
2012-10-03 12:56:26 PM  
This will be an epic game. My Facebook feed is going crazy with A's fans! Oakland/East Bay fans really need this, having put up with years and years of terrible sport seasons, what wih the Warriors and the Raiders and constant plans of professional teams leaving the city.
 
2012-10-03 12:57:46 PM  
The game starts at 3:30
 
2012-10-03 12:59:42 PM  
It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.
 
2012-10-03 01:01:50 PM  

bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.


Who would you rather have?
 
2012-10-03 01:04:07 PM  

Broktun: The game starts at 3:30


3:30 Eastern
 
2012-10-03 01:04:24 PM  

The Bestest: bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.

Who would you rather have?


If you have an 8-ball, you can probably get Ron Washington.
 
2012-10-03 01:04:59 PM  
Nice try, subby. My computer printout from April says that the Angels first playoff game is Saturday.
 
2012-10-03 01:06:17 PM  
There some guy on Angels named Mark Bass or Matt Flounder, or something like that, who had a really amazing year, but let's not talk about it any further after yesterday's boondoggle.
 
2012-10-03 01:09:13 PM  

The Bestest: bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.

Who would you rather have?


The talk has been going after Francona
 
2012-10-03 01:12:01 PM  

bhcompy: The talk has been going after Francona


Francona is a bumbling clown. So long as any team can avoid hiring Ken Macha or Bob Geren, the manager won't make too much of a difference.
 
2012-10-03 01:17:53 PM  

bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.


Mike Scioscia has been outstanding. I don't understand why you or anyone wouldn't like him.
 
2012-10-03 01:22:17 PM  
Both LA area teams should be considered laughing stocks right now. The Angels spent $154 million for the whole season. The Dodgers took in $200+ million in the middle of the season and they were sub-.500 from that point on.
 
2012-10-03 01:25:03 PM  
THIS TRAIN!
 
2012-10-03 01:25:51 PM  

desertgeek: Both LA area teams should be considered laughing stocks right now. The Angels spent $154 million for the whole season. The Dodgers took in $200+ million in the middle of the season and they were sub-.500 from that point on.


wait wait.. you're saying taking over most of the payroll from a sub-.500 team DOESN'T lead to success?
 
2012-10-03 01:31:43 PM  
It's more like the Rangers and A's game will decide who gets more mockery for failing with a $100 million+ payroll, the Angels or the Rangers.
 
2012-10-03 01:33:48 PM  

The Bestest: desertgeek: Both LA area teams should be considered laughing stocks right now. The Angels spent $154 million for the whole season. The Dodgers took in $200+ million in the middle of the season and they were sub-.500 from that point on.

wait wait.. you're saying taking over most of the payroll from a sub-.500 team DOESN'T lead to success?


Um... yes, yes I am.

/No sane Dodgers fan can really think any of those guys will do anything to make them better over the next few years, right?
 
2012-10-03 01:37:25 PM  

Cagey B: It's more like the Rangers and A's game will decide who gets more mockery for failing with a $100 million+ payroll, the Angels or the Rangers.


Rangers are still headed to the playoffs this year with a better market share in Japan because of Yu.

Pujols has the Angels on the hook for 9 more years and a star newbie whos new salary requirements wont keep him a Halo for long.

/going to still suck for the Stros next year
 
2012-10-03 01:37:50 PM  
I can't bear to watch. The Rangers are about to finish off an epic choke and it's going to royally piss me off.

Oh, and subby, the game starts in two hours, not tonight.
 
2012-10-03 01:40:03 PM  

desertgeek: The Bestest: desertgeek: Both LA area teams should be considered laughing stocks right now. The Angels spent $154 million for the whole season. The Dodgers took in $200+ million in the middle of the season and they were sub-.500 from that point on.

wait wait.. you're saying taking over most of the payroll from a sub-.500 team DOESN'T lead to success?

Um... yes, yes I am.

/No sane Dodgers fan can really think any of those guys will do anything to make them better over the next few years, right?


Remember when everyone was laughing at the LA Kings for making the Jack Johnson for Jeff Carter trade at the deadline? How did that turn out?

Sometimes trades and signing work out and sometimes they don't. Happens to every team that's willing to pull the trigger on big trades and I don't think any team has a perfect record on big trades/big free agent contracts.
 
2012-10-03 01:43:54 PM  

desertgeek: /No sane Dodgers fan can really think any of those guys will do anything to make them better over the next few years, right?


I'm no Dodgers fan (f*ck you Kirk Gibson), nor am I sane, but I can see Adrian Gonzalez being a contributor for a while yet. Who the hell knows about Carl Crawford, and I think Beckett's best years are far behind him.

Way too high of a price to pay for getting Gonzalez, though.
 
2012-10-03 01:46:48 PM  

Outlaw2097: /going to still suck for the Stros next year


The Astros are going to ensure that three out of the five teams in the postseason for the AL next year come from the AL West, so there's that.
 
2012-10-03 01:47:24 PM  

ddam: Remember when everyone was laughing at the LA Kings for making the Jack Johnson for Jeff Carter trade at the deadline? How did that turn out?


Very well, but I'm still amazed the Kings seriously had to give up a first-rounder and an (at the time) underachieving but VERY talented young d-man in Jack Johnson for a guy, as talented as Carter is in his own right when motivated, Columbus at that point just wanted gone. Howson is a terrible GM, and the Kings are and will be fine anyway, but that was a fantastic haul for CBJ as well.

But, because it's Howson we're talking about, I imagine Columbus used that pick to draft Igor Bulibeergutsky, a 39 year old Georgian homebrewer who happens to play goalie in a local Tbilisi church league
 
2012-10-03 01:50:06 PM  
I just assumed it would be Detroit mocking them...
 
2012-10-03 01:50:50 PM  
Rangers have blown a 4 game lead with 6 to play. This team is going the wrong direction right before the playoffs.
 
2012-10-03 01:51:50 PM  

tnpir: I can't bear to watch. The Rangers are about to finish off an epic choke and it's going to royally piss me off.


No matter how epic the choke is (if it happens), remember:

Boston has done it at least twice, in more painful ways.
 
2012-10-03 01:52:30 PM  
Dennis Eckersley ?

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2012-10-03 01:52:39 PM  

The Bestest: bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.

Who would you rather have?


Tony La Russa. Pujols got it in his contract that he picks manager.
 
2012-10-03 01:59:37 PM  

ChuckNorrisSays: The Bestest: bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.

Who would you rather have?

Tony La Russa. Pujols got it in his contract that he picks manager.


Enjoy the next nine years of that back-loaded albatross of a contract.
 
2012-10-03 02:01:50 PM  
As a Cardinals fan I'm laughing at the Angels and Albert Pujols. Yes, the Cardinals backed into a crappy wild card spot: but at least they'll be playing at least one postseason game with a rookie manager and a lineup riddled with injuries.

/Chris Carpenter laughs at your season-ending surgery.
 
2012-10-03 02:06:35 PM  

tnpir: I can't bear to watch. The Rangers are about to finish off an epic choke and it's going to royally piss me off.

Oh, and subby, the game starts in two hours, not tonight.


I hardly consider finishing second in the division an epic choke...the As are the hottest team in baseball right now.
 
2012-10-03 02:06:36 PM  

mainstreet62: bhcompy: It will hopefully mean the end of Scioscia. Good manager, but time to move on and get a fresh perspective.

Mike Scioscia has been outstanding. I don't understand why you or anyone wouldn't like him.


For one, he made mistakes this year that cost important games down the stretch that he wouldn't have previously. Things like not bunting a guy on first base over with no outs to secure a win in the 9th. This really is counter to his philosophy, signs that he's second guessing himself.

Then there's also the stewardship. The team's bullpen is getting progressively more awful, but the talent has been touted for years. Under Black, they were great, under Butcher they have slid year to year. Fuentes and Rodney came in from the outside, had a single good year, then went to shiat, and then did better again once they moved on. Hatcher always presided over offenses that occasionally hit well, but never displayed plate discipline, and the true power hitters they developed can be counted on one hand(Glaus, Napoli, Trumbo)

Then there is the philosophy itself. A team of this caliber doesn't need a smallball philosophy. You need a more Yankees/Torre philosophy, imho.
 
2012-10-03 02:09:57 PM  

Cagey B: desertgeek: /No sane Dodgers fan can really think any of those guys will do anything to make them better over the next few years, right?

I'm no Dodgers fan (f*ck you Kirk Gibson), nor am I sane, but I can see Adrian Gonzalez being a contributor for a while yet. Who the hell knows about Carl Crawford, and I think Beckett's best years are far behind him.

Way too high of a price to pay for getting Gonzalez, though.


Adrian Gonzalez is an excellent player, but I agree with that assessment. Two expensive years of Beckett, who may or may not return to form, and 5 more years of Crawford is hideous. That's one hell of an expensive way for the new owners to tell fans "hey, we want to win too!"
 
2012-10-03 02:12:59 PM  

Droog8912: That's one hell of an expensive way for the new owners to tell fans "hey, we want to win too!"


For the money they spent, they would have been better off waiting until the offseason and signing Josh Hamilton and Zack Greinke. That trade is eventually going to get Ned Colletti fired.
 
2012-10-03 02:22:18 PM  

Nothing To See Here: Dennis Eckersley ?

[img.gawkerassets.com image 850x1173]


Terry Kiser, the originator of The Bernie Dance.

/I believe everyone knows that, but I have poor impulse control and took the bait.
//Let's go, Oakland!
 
2012-10-03 02:26:04 PM  

mangocop: Nothing To See Here: Dennis Eckersley ?

[img.gawkerassets.com image 850x1173]

Terry Kiser, the originator of The Bernie Dance.

/I believe everyone knows that, but I have poor impulse control and took the bait.
//Let's go, Oakland!



Thanks, thought it was lost in the translation, eveyone out here is doing the Bernie
From the Oakland Hills, Go A's . . .
 
2012-10-03 02:27:46 PM  

bhcompy: Then there is the philosophy itself. A team of this caliber doesn't need a smallball philosophy. You need a more Yankees/Torre philosophy, imho.


I disagree somewhat. As a Yankees fan, I am largely disappointed that we don't play more small ball.

In fact, some small ball (suicide squeeze) would have won the game for us in the 9th yesterday, and possibly led to more runs before that. Yes, suicide squeezing is highly risky, but would ANYONE expect that from the Yankees, especially from Tex?
 
2012-10-03 02:36:29 PM  

mainstreet62: bhcompy: Then there is the philosophy itself. A team of this caliber doesn't need a smallball philosophy. You need a more Yankees/Torre philosophy, imho.

I disagree somewhat. As a Yankees fan, I am largely disappointed that we don't play more small ball.

In fact, some small ball (suicide squeeze) would have won the game for us in the 9th yesterday, and possibly led to more runs before that. Yes, suicide squeezing is highly risky, but would ANYONE expect that from the Yankees, especially from Tex?


Well problem with the Yankees is that most of their small ball centered around Brett Gardner. Gardner in actually gave Girardi a reason to plug DefensiveLiability Nunez into the lineup whenever one of the 'stars' needed their rotating DH time.
With Gardner out, the entire strategy changed, and the plug-ins ended up being Eric Chavez, Raul Ibanez and Fat Andruw.
 
2012-10-03 02:42:59 PM  
The Cowboy suck has traveled by osmosis across the parking lot.
 
2012-10-03 02:46:25 PM  

lakrfool: The Cowboy suck has traveled by osmosis across the parking lot.


Thankfully, the Jets have been quarantined to New Jersey. The Mets are self-quarantining, somehow.
 
2012-10-03 02:49:29 PM  
BTW, haven't seen it on Fark yet, but the Mariners announced yesterday that they're moving in the fences at Safeco.
 
2012-10-03 02:52:35 PM  

mainstreet62: lakrfool: The Cowboy suck has traveled by osmosis across the parking lot.

Thankfully, the Jets have been quarantined to New Jersey. The Mets are self-quarantining, somehow.


The Mets inhabit a place named after what happens when you make the turd go away, so it's not surprising.
 
2012-10-03 03:00:47 PM  

The Bestest: BTW, haven't seen it on Fark yet, but the Mariners announced yesterday that they're moving in the fences at Safeco.


There's no time to talk about the Mariners. We need another AL MVP thread.

Actually, though, there's a decent argument that moving the fences in could reduce offense even more, but I was saving that until there is a thread.
 
2012-10-03 03:05:27 PM  

The Bestest: BTW, haven't seen it on Fark yet, but the Mariners announced yesterday that they're moving in the fences at Safeco.


Because, obviously, the fences are why they get outscored at home.
 
2012-10-03 03:06:39 PM  
I chased a beautiful red head to Seattle about 7 years back and the only thing I really miss is my Oakland A's.

Well, the sun.

Decent Mexican food.

But she's really hot, so it's totally worth it. (Call me, Contra Costa County!)
 
2012-10-03 03:14:43 PM  

tortilla burger: tnpir: I can't bear to watch. The Rangers are about to finish off an epic choke and it's going to royally piss me off.

Oh, and subby, the game starts in two hours, not tonight.

I hardly consider finishing second in the division an epic choke...the As are the hottest team in baseball right now.


Other the other hand, I hardly consider blowing a 4 game lead with 6 to play as anything BUT an epic choke. The Rangers led this division comfortably since April 9, and now, after 161 games, are on the verge of blowing it. I'm sorry, but I can't be rational about this - it just pisses me off.
 
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