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(Some Guy)   To everyone threatening to move to Canada: Can we get that in writing, please?   (dayriffer.com) divider line 40
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2012-10-03 09:32:14 AM  
5 votes:
"[Actor Stephen] Baldwin has been an outspoken detractor of President Obama and gay marriage - calling the latter 'unconstitutional' and once threatening to move to Canada upon the election of the former."

Yeah, moving to a country that has nationally legalized same-sex marriage. That'll show 'em!
2012-10-03 11:02:10 AM  
4 votes:
Speaking as a Canadian... Please don't. Anyone who'd move out of their country simply because a different party is in the White House isn't someone we want up here.

Thanks anyway!
2012-10-03 09:37:42 AM  
4 votes:

Sybarite: Yeah, moving to a country that has nationally legalized same-sex marriage. That'll show 'em!


Meh, he'll overlook the nationally legalized same-sex marriage to escape the creeping horrors of socialism, such as nationalized health care and gun restrictions. It's not just about social issues, you know.
2012-10-03 01:25:19 PM  
2 votes:
Advice to immigrants

1. Learn French and English, especially French. Quebec more or less runs its own immigration system, and they are always happy to get immigrants that won't jam their small, crowded English-language schools (as there is extremely high demand for English immersion among the Speak-White crowd of French nationalists). You do not have the right to have your children educated in English (some English-speaking Canadians are grandfathered, but not immigrants). English schools are for the French. If you come from an English-speaking country other than Canada, you are shiat-out-of-luck unless you are very rich and can send your children to private schools, say UCC in Ontario.

2. Line up a job in Canada before you come, especially one in a badly needed trade, profession, or economic sector. A job is your ticket to ride the pogey train in the winter. It is also indespensible to get into the country unless you are a refugee (and even people who are terrified to go home because they'll be raped, tortured and murdered can have problems because the refugee claim boards are spotty at best).

3. Be prepared to be sent to Siberia. Well, not exactly Siberia, but something very like Siberia. Even if you are an M.D., your skills are hardest to get in rural areas, not to mention the out back of no where, so it is much easier to get your qualifications recognized and yourself a job in Feckallthere, Athabaska, than Whoneedsya, Toronto.

4. Bring a lot of money, and jobs. Lots of jobs. Canada has a fast-track for investors and entrepreneurs. The speed with which $250,000 or more can get you through Citizenship & Immigration is breath-taking compared to the processing of refugees with no jobs, money, or useable skills. If you want to create jobs in the sticks, so much better. The Government will probably match you dollar for dollar. Probably. They'll also be a pain in various body parts.

Canada's immigration system is a model much admired in countries where the emphasis is on refugees and not on high-yield economic refugees of the right sort. There are still people who immigrate to Canada because it's a pain-in-the-ass to try to farm in Europe and nearly impossible even if you can afford the land. But nowadays, first class professionals become first class citizens before they lose their accents.

Canadian authorities have ALWAYS been very pragmatic and have always complained about the quality of material they have to work with. They resented being used as a dumping ground for the Mother Country's white trash and always fought hard to get people who could farm, mine, cut timber, fish, or build an economy from the ground up. Unlike Australia and Virginia, Canada was never really a penal colony, and the hundreds of thousands of semi-orphaned urban waifs plucked from the streets of London, Edinborough or Liverpool were regarded as a source of cheap bonded labour.

Nasty but profitable, not unlike the penal system in the Deep South or America generally today.
Some people tend to confuse charity and slavery. They are not ALL conservatives. Some are really bad liberals.

5. Be prepared to discover Canada is quite different from the clichés. In reality, Canada is a very competitive entrepreneurial place. It was settled by hard-working peasants of all nations, and by grasping, industrial and commercial Scottish Protestants (plus a lot of the RC kind).

The spirit of Andrew Carnagie is alive and well, as well as the more leftist and do-gooder variety. Scots, I find, tend to run to extremes. They are either raggetty-assed scoundrels or pious saints, ice-hearted conservatives or bluff generous liberals. And the Scot lassies are a completely different species from the male. It's like some sort of foreign warrior tribe invaded and killed all the men but kept the women. That's possibly what really happened--about a dozen times.

All in all, Canada is a Nordic nation. It is a lot like Iceland, Sweden, Norway or Finland (less like Denmark perhaps). It's a bit like some of the nicer bits of Russia. It is not entirely foreign to the British or French, but the Dutch and the Scandinavians are better equipped to deal with the landscape, the climate, the people and the customs. And maybe Ukrainians.

If you can live in Wisconsin or Minnesotta, you can probably take Canada. If not, stay the hell in Georgia, Bubba! You will not find a New Georgia in Canada. There is no such place. There are plenty of other countries, states and regions, though. Almost anybody can become a Canadian in ten years or so, at least to the point of complaining about immigrants and drinking double doubles to keep warm. There's no obligation to totally go whole hog WASP. Your children can go native before they learn to put on their own shoes, but you can retain a lot of the old-country ways, just don't bring terrorists or old quarrels. Leave 'em at the town limits. This is a policed community, although not totally gated.
2012-10-03 11:04:34 AM  
2 votes:
Americans: Threatening to move to Canada since 1776.
2012-10-03 11:03:50 AM  
2 votes:

Cythraul: I've actually looked into Canada's immigration policies and naturalization requirements. And my reaction was, "yeah, I SO do not meet their standards."

Unless I'm misremembering their 'must have' list.


We basically import two kinds of people here. The best, brightest, the wealthiest...(Unfortunately, Bigot Baldwin fits in here), and the poor, the downtrodden, the oppressed.

Regular, average, every-day John Q. Farkup, no immigratey unless you're marrying someone.
2012-10-03 11:02:34 AM  
2 votes:
If you are truly unhip to the TPB, you need to get off FARK and get on YouTube.

//gotta go
//Ricky's got to get his s___ together and . . .
2012-10-03 11:00:17 AM  
2 votes:

Sybarite: "[Actor Stephen] Baldwin has been an outspoken detractor of President Obama and gay marriage - calling the latter 'unconstitutional' and once threatening to move to Canada upon the election of the former."

Yeah, moving to a country that has nationally legalized same-sex marriage. That'll show 'em!


This, and

Pocket Ninja: Meh, he'll overlook the nationally legalized same-sex marriage to escape the creeping horrors of socialism, such as nationalized health care and gun restrictions. It's not just about social issues, you know.


That. At least it made sense when liberals threatened to go to Canada in 2004---they'd be moving to a more liberal country which is more in line with their politics. These conservatives would be a lot less happy up there.

/not that I'm discouraging them from leaving the country.
2012-10-03 10:47:23 AM  
2 votes:
I expect roughly the same number of people will leave if Obama wins a second term as the number of people who left after Bush won a second term.
2012-10-03 09:41:04 AM  
2 votes:
I've actually looked into Canada's immigration policies and naturalization requirements. And my reaction was, "yeah, I SO do not meet their standards."

Unless I'm misremembering their 'must have' list.
2012-10-03 06:08:26 PM  
1 votes:

cassanovascotian: If there are progressive's in the U.S. who think that moving to Canada is going to bring them to a more progressive, liberal society, I got bad news for them.

this guy

[www.nndb.com image 228x285]

quit Kyoto.
Accepts the use of classified information gained through torture.
Drastically increased carbon output.
Tried to roll back gay-marriage.
his party even recently toyed with criminalizing abortion...

yeah, so I'm about as far left as lefties come, and if Obama gets reelected, I'm thinking of moving stateside.


This is literally the most idiotic post I have ever read.
2012-10-03 04:18:04 PM  
1 votes:

kimwim: If Rmoney wins, I don't think I want to live in a country that could elect such a person. If my grandmother could leave Poland to give her children and grandchildren a better future, I honor her memory by doing the same.

But it's hard to move to Canada. We looked into buying property last year. The only way to do it that we could see was to borrow money from a Canadian bank, and, we had to own property in the US that we had to go back to at the least every 6 months. The Canadian government didn't want us overstaying our welcome. So I don't know how one retires to Canada.


A problem I've been having, too.
We'll have to keep a residence here in the US. Fine by me. Pay dual citizenship taxes. Also fine by me.
Borrow from a Canadian bank? Ok.
Purchasing land anywhere in the Laurentians? Almost impossible.
Whatabout up near Calabogie?
Also difficult.
May have to just rent here and there.

/if you come up with anything let me know!
2012-10-03 03:53:55 PM  
1 votes:

MartinaMcSorley: Pondering a job in Saskatoon, myself. I wonder how bad the housing situation is there. I was surprised by how much housing in Calgary and Edmonton were. I'd want to rent, most likely, and I'd want a house, because I have dogs. But lots of rentals in the city sounded like basements (not sure how that works), and if I headed to the 'burbs for a house with a yard, the traffic and downtown parking sounded bad. In both cities. So, Saskatoon. But Saskatoon sounds like a whole 'nother level of cold.

I'll probably just dither about it and do nothing. I do like Canada and Canadians, though.

//Nice, mild-mannered Yank.
//Likes hockey.


Saskatoon is going into boomtown phase right now. You might be able to get a decent property, but pretty much everything in Canada is over valued right now. As for the cold, that's a relative thing. Saskatoon is no colder than Edmonton or Yellowknife, so it depends on what you think cold means.
2012-10-03 03:51:48 PM  
1 votes:

Nytfall: I'm moving to Canada no matter who wins, it's unrelated to the election.

/gonna miss my guns, tho


You should contact the Canadian Firearms Program. Our gun laws are not as restrictive as most people think. Depending on your status, and what kinds of firearms you own, you may be able to bring them with you.
2012-10-03 03:35:56 PM  
1 votes:
I'm moving to Canada no matter who wins, it's unrelated to the election.

/gonna miss my guns, tho
2012-10-03 02:22:18 PM  
1 votes:
It makes perfect snese for liberals to threaten to move to Canads, but shouldn't no-government conservatives threaten to move to Somalia?

I think that pretty much sums up the direction both parties want to go. Liberals want to turn America into that hellhole Canada, while Cons want to turn us into the free-market paradise of Somalia.
2012-10-03 02:21:43 PM  
1 votes:

TheSteamingPile: please do not. we like to keep as much herp-a-derp south of the border as possible.


Isn't it "racist" and "xenophobic" if you don't want immigrants from south of the border?
2012-10-03 02:04:13 PM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: ZeroCorpse: As a Michigan native, I've been waiting eagerly for the day when my state finally becomes a legal part of Canada. We're practically Canada anyway. Please, just sell Michigan to Canada.

Michigan is much more Canadian than Alberta or BC for instance. Your only slightly less Canadian than Vermont.


We were part of Canada until 1796; Detroit even sent two representatives to the first assembly for Upper Canada.
2012-10-03 01:55:37 PM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: CapeFearCadaver: I'm moving to Sweden.

There, it's in writing.

Sweden's on a short list of countries that I would immigrate to.


Denmark!

\Canadian
2012-10-03 12:57:20 PM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: I've actually looked into Canada's immigration policies and naturalization requirements. And my reaction was, "yeah, I SO do not meet their standards."

Unless I'm misremembering their 'must have' list.


Unfortunately for me, they don't have an extremem shortage of science teachers.

I would love to have socialized medicine, low crime rates and a real safety net.
2012-10-03 12:33:14 PM  
1 votes:

Egoy3k: cassanovascotian: If there are progressive's in the U.S. who think that moving to Canada is going to bring them to a more progressive, liberal society, I got bad news for them.

this guy

[www.nndb.com image 228x285]

quit Kyoto.
Accepts the use of classified information gained through torture.
Drastically increased carbon output.
Tried to roll back gay-marriage.
his party even recently toyed with criminalizing abortion...

yeah, so I'm about as far left as lefties come, and if Obama gets reelected, I'm thinking of moving stateside.

I'm not really a huge fan of Stephen Harper but, holy hyperbole batman.

Quitting Kyoto is no worse than staying in and not meeting any of the targets

I got nothing on the torture other than I agree that the guy is a scumbag

Carbon output in 2008 was 544,091x10^3 tons in 2010 it was 518,475 and 2008 was the middle of the recession when global output was reduced. (both numbers from the UN)

Lets be fair here the guy deserves to be booted from office and roundly criticized but he's not exactly history's greatest monster. His greatest failure is the abortion that is the omnibus crime bill and minimum mandatory sentencing, but hey at least he scrapped the long gun registry.


I won't ever vote for him because of his politicization of science.
2012-10-03 11:57:09 AM  
1 votes:

cassanovascotian: Tried to roll back gay-marriage.
his party even recently toyed with criminalizing abortion...


next to the Smart and Funny buttons I want a Stupid button.

jesus dude. not even close to true.
2012-10-03 11:35:31 AM  
1 votes:

cassanovascotian: , and if Obama gets reelected, I'm thinking of moving stateside.


We'll be happy to have you.
2012-10-03 11:34:44 AM  
1 votes:
If there are progressive's in the U.S. who think that moving to Canada is going to bring them to a more progressive, liberal society, I got bad news for them.

this guy

www.nndb.com

quit Kyoto.
Accepts the use of classified information gained through torture.
Drastically increased carbon output.
Tried to roll back gay-marriage.
his party even recently toyed with criminalizing abortion...

yeah, so I'm about as far left as lefties come, and if Obama gets reelected, I'm thinking of moving stateside.
2012-10-03 11:25:06 AM  
1 votes:

TheSteamingPile: heinekenftw: Yes, conservatives, flee to a nation that's even more liberal than ours. Good idea.

please do not. we like to keep as much herp-a-derp south of the border as possible.


We have enough with the Yee-haws in rural Alberta, and the mouth-breathing morons that read this rag and elected Harper

A sample:

imageshack.us 

Derp.
2012-10-03 11:21:08 AM  
1 votes:
Canada seems like quite a nice place to live, actually. My husband has a job application in at a university in Ontario looking for an American historian, so there's a small chance we could end up moving there, no matter who wins the election. I'm hoping the whole "moving to Canada" bit is easier if there's a company there that already wants you.
2012-10-03 11:19:20 AM  
1 votes:

Karac: To be honest, the only opinion I care about from Stephen Baldwin is what he's going to do to get Jayne Cobb and Firefly back on the air, a plan which would preferably involve Wash coming back to life.


I think you're thinking of Adam Baldwin. He's not one of the "Baldwin brothers".

Stephen Baldwin was not in Firefly, is the point I'm making here.
2012-10-03 11:14:40 AM  
1 votes:

Karac: "[Actor Stephen] Baldwin has been an outspoken detractor of President Obama and gay marriage - calling the latter 'unconstitutional' and once threatening to move to Canada upon the election of the former."

Actor/musician/celebrity disagrees with republican policies: "Who cares what some hollywood type thinks?"
Actor/musician/celebrity agrees with republican policies: "Lets put him on TV to show that the cool people like us."

To be honest, the only opinion I care about from Stephen Baldwin is what he's going to do to get Jayne Cobb and Firefly back on the air, a plan which would preferably involve Wash coming back to life.


Adam Baldwin is Best Baldwin.
2012-10-03 11:13:52 AM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: wildcardjack: I don't understand the threat to move to Canada. I thought all the conservatives were buying up Costa Rica.

Well, it ranks ahead of the US in quality of healthcare...

Oh, and it's socialized medicine.


Given the choice, and we are not, I would take socialized to profitized any day.
2012-10-03 11:13:36 AM  
1 votes:
For those who think S. Baldwin is serious, please change your batteries.

www.popsci.com
2012-10-03 11:13:22 AM  
1 votes:
To all those who say that they'll move to Canada : Canada does not accept every American Tom, Dick and Harry. What makes you think that Canada will LET YOU move to Canada?
2012-10-03 11:12:39 AM  
1 votes:
Everyone had best check w/ Canada, first.

I suspect the cunning plan is not well thought out.
2012-10-03 11:09:47 AM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: I've actually looked into Canada's immigration policies and naturalization requirements. And my reaction was, "yeah, I SO do not meet their standards."

Unless I'm misremembering their 'must have' list.


they tightened them after the 2004 Bush reelection. Srsly. Probably just to keep the Baldwins out.
2012-10-03 11:09:12 AM  
1 votes:
If Rmoney wins, I don't think I want to live in a country that could elect such a person. If my grandmother could leave Poland to give her children and grandchildren a better future, I honor her memory by doing the same.

But it's hard to move to Canada. We looked into buying property last year. The only way to do it that we could see was to borrow money from a Canadian bank, and, we had to own property in the US that we had to go back to at the least every 6 months. The Canadian government didn't want us overstaying our welcome. So I don't know how one retires to Canada.
2012-10-03 11:08:20 AM  
1 votes:
Why don't they move to the conservative paradise that is Saudi Arabia?
2012-10-03 11:02:30 AM  
1 votes:

Dog Welder: Aren't these the same idiots who said they were moving when Obama won the first time? Why the hell are they still here?

And why should we take them seriously this time around?


Um.. yeah.. kinda of like all the Dems that threatened to move when Bush won his 2nd seat. Yawn.
2012-10-03 11:00:55 AM  
1 votes:
Yes, conservatives, flee to a nation that's even more liberal than ours. Good idea.
2012-10-03 10:59:45 AM  
1 votes:
I wonder if they held Alec Baldwin to the same standard. Probably not.
2012-10-03 10:21:48 AM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Cythraul: I've actually looked into Canada's immigration policies and naturalization requirements. And my reaction was, "yeah, I SO do not meet their standards."

Unless I'm misremembering their 'must have' list.

1) Can you milk a moose?
2) Can you drink 24 beers and still cook one pound of back bacon without burning yourself?
3) Do you love and respect the beaver?
4) Do you find anything Rick Mercer's says to actually be funny?
5) Do you think the Trailer Park boys is actually a documentary?


1) No.
2) No.
3) The 'beaver?' Are you being literal? I don't love the animal, but I have a healthy respect for wildlife.
4) Who?
5) Trailer Park what?
2012-10-03 10:19:23 AM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: I've actually looked into Canada's immigration policies and naturalization requirements. And my reaction was, "yeah, I SO do not meet their standards."

Unless I'm misremembering their 'must have' list.


1) Can you milk a moose?
2) Can you drink 24 beers and still cook one pound of back bacon without burning yourself?
3) Do you love and respect the beaver?
4) Do you find anything Rick Mercer's says to actually be funny?
5) Do you think the Trailer Park boys is actually a documentary?
 
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