Yay, another immigration thread. Wonder how this one will turn out.

It can't be as bad as being on an American Airliine flight behind a loose row of seats filled with people who had several PB&J sandwiches made with tainted Trader Joe peanut butter and the flight is about to hit an extended area of turbulence.

Idiot A: I think that they all should be deported. They clearly broke the law, and without considering circumstances or variation of situations, I want them all kicked out.
Idiot B: I want to ensure that they have a path for citizenship. Even though it was unpopular because the first time that they did it and our government can't fit a round peg in a round hole, I think this is a thing that our government can do, especially since it is popularly used as a dog whistle and no politician will every actually fix a problem.. Also, you are a racist.
Idiot A: Am not, beaner.
Idiot C: I have a nuanced and intelligent approach to the problem, but I am unaware enough that I will try to argue my point in an internet forums where it will not see the light of day.

/tada

This just goes back to white people keeping minorities down any way they can. I don't know why people are shocked by this.

These are people who are so desparate to get into America and find work they are willing to be smuggled in a truck's engine compartment. There's not much we can do that would make their lives worse.

Dante87336: Idiot A: I think that they all should be deported. They clearly broke the law, and without considering circumstances or variation of situations, I want them all kicked out.
Idiot B: I want to ensure that they have a path for citizenship. Even though it was unpopular because the first time that they did it and our government can't fit a round peg in a round hole, I think this is a thing that our government can do, especially since it is popularly used as a dog whistle and no politician will every actually fix a problem.. Also, you are a racist.
Idiot A: Am not, beaner.
Idiot C: I have a nuanced and intelligent approach to the problem, but I am unaware enough that I will try to argue my point in an internet forums where it will not see the light of day.

/tada

Commercial flights with 130 deportees each won't begin to scratch the surface.

Use military C-5s which hold over three hundred.

If web seating and MREs are good enough for our troops they're good enough for deportees.

Propain_az: This just goes back to white people keeping minorities down any way they can. I don't know why people are shocked by this.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Is my meter broken?

"...deportees who have no roots, few employment prospects and sometimes limited Spanish."

WTF?

subsetzero: Commercial flights with 130 deportees each won't begin to scratch the surface.

Use military C-5s which hold over three hundred.

If web seating and MREs are good enough for our troops they're good enough for deportees.

That's a pretty large lift capacity for just people. It may be more expedient but it might not be the most economical route even considering the cost of civilian airfare.

Can anybody out there hazard a good estimate on the fuel consumption of a C-5 carrying just troops?

Coach? They should stuff them all in the back of a C-17, fly low across the boarder and LAPES their illegal asses back to Mexico.

We should double down and take them to Guatamala instead.

They can afford to fly?

Propain_az: This just goes back to white people keeping minorities down any way they can. I don't know why people are shocked by this.

Yeah, because if you ask a person that immigrated legally and jumped through all the citizenship hoops what they think of illegals...well heck THEY sure don't have any problem with illegals. No sir...

Face it. that's a farking strawman that you're arguing there.

The truth is, there are only a few types of people that argue this issue. Those that believe in the rule of law and that we should be a nation of laws and ruled by them... and those asshats that think that everyone EXCEPT them and the people that they like should follow the laws.

The fact is, we need to streamline the immigration process and offer more immigration numbers... but we DO NOT need to offer illegals citizenship. Let them apply for citizenship like all the people waiting in line for it. Back of the line jerks... leave and get there.

Go ask someone that immigrated legally, and they'll give you an earful about how they hate illegals and think they should all be deported. Think that it's just the white man that is pushing for this? Bullshiat. People that earned their citizenship will be more than happy to tell you precisely what they think of illegals.

My concern with having them here is not some much that they broke the law to get as it is that once here they do not pay taxes, but still use services paid for with our taxes. There is also the matter of money being sent back to Mexico which means that it is not spent within our economy.

If you're here legally, welcome
If you're here illegally, GTFO

Mishno: Coach? They should stuff them all in the back of a C-17, fly low across the boarder and LAPES their illegal asses back to Mexico.

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Fly *low*? And what's this about a parachute? They should HANO jump.

MythDragon: Mishno: Coach? They should stuff them all in the back of a C-17, fly low across the boarder and LAPES their illegal asses back to Mexico.

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Fly *low*? And what's this about a parachute? They should HANO jump.

HANO? They'll open all right. They'll all open on impact! I figured that with a big plywood tray that we make them build themselves and one parachute to pull it out of the back of the aircraft we're at least giving them a chance.

Profedius: My concern with having them here is not some much that they broke the law to get as it is that once here they do not pay taxes, but still use services paid for with our taxes. There is also the matter of money being sent back to Mexico which means that it is not spent within our economy.

Legal immigrants tend to send their money back home as well.

Illegals who actually defraud their employers by pretending to be legal are paying SS, Medicare, and unemployment taxes, from which they'll never see any benefit. They also tend to get a little income tax withheld. (This doesn't apply to illegals getting paid cash under the table like God intended). Whether that effect is bigger overall than non-taxpaying use of services like public schools, I honestly don't know.

Gaseous Anomaly: Profedius: My concern with having them here is not some much that they broke the law to get as it is that once here they do not pay taxes, but still use services paid for with our taxes. There is also the matter of money being sent back to Mexico which means that it is not spent within our economy.

Legal immigrants tend to send their money back home as well.

Illegals who actually defraud their employers by pretending to be legal are paying SS, Medicare, and unemployment taxes, from which they'll never see any benefit. They also tend to get a little income tax withheld. (This doesn't apply to illegals getting paid cash under the table like God intended). Whether that effect is bigger overall than non-taxpaying use of services like public schools, I honestly don't know.

I agree completely. I have always wondered how they are able to send their children to public schools when schools require a great deal of paperwork to enroll your children. It seems as though it would be an easy matter to figure out who is not meant to be allowed the service of an education when they are unable to provide a birth certificate. I don't think the problem is difficult to correct I think the will to do so is the real issue.

At least they are starting off south of Los Gatos, so they have that much going for them.
( google plane crash at Los Gatos).