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(Major League Baseball)   With just one day left on the schedule, the only sure thing in the American League playoffs is that the Detroit Tigers will be the 3rd seed   (mlb.mlb.com) divider line 147
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2012-10-03 01:02:32 AM
Rangers at A's for the AL West championship, 3:35 eastern on MLBN

Here are the scenarios:

Yankees can win the AL East AND #1 seed with a win.
A Yankees loss and O's loss gives the Yankees the AL East and the #1 if the Rangers win, but the #2 if the A's win.
A Yankees loss and O's win forces a game 163 at Camden Yards on Thursday. Seeding is same as above for the Yankees, O's would be #2 regardless of Rangers/A's.
 
2012-10-03 01:09:32 AM
..oh, forgot the wild card scenarios..

if the O's lose Wednesday's game, they will be the WC2 regardless of Rangers/A's, and must travel to Arlington/Oakland for the Wild Card game.
If the O's win on Wednesday, they will be WC1 (and host the Wild Card game) if the Yankees win.
If an AL East 163 occurs, the loser of that game will be the WC1.
 
2012-10-03 02:27:38 AM

The Bestest: Here are the scenarios:


I know you're a Yankees fan, but you have to admit the games would've been even more exciting if your boys hadn't come through in the clutch last night. :p

Real simple outlook for the O's: win & (at worst) host a wildcard game, lose & there's no guarantee of postseason play in Baltimore.
 
2012-10-03 09:06:32 AM
If things play out and there is a game 163, is it in Baltimore or NY?
 
2012-10-03 09:52:50 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: If things play out and there is a game 163, is it in Baltimore or NY?


Baltimore.
 
2012-10-03 09:59:25 AM

robsul82: Baltimore.


Thanks.

While today will be fun, let us take a moment to remember how amazing the end of last season was.

Also, OHH. Written in the stars, a million miles away . . .
 
2012-10-03 10:24:56 AM
My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.
 
2012-10-03 10:38:20 AM

IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.


I'm not unhappy about the expansion of the playoffs, but the rush to do it this year (thanks to last year's Game 162 day) caused the total bungling of the schedule for the division series. They could have at least waited until next year to do it properly.
 
2012-10-03 10:56:40 AM

IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.


It would only negatively impact anything if it gets to where hockey is: where the regular season doesn't really matter and the playoffs are like a whole separate season. Adding a one-game playoff doesn't do that. Expanding the field to 8 teams per league would.
 
2012-10-03 11:23:17 AM
I still need to pick my NL-team-that-I-choose-to-care-about-during-the-playoffs this year... last year, the Cards were an easy Cinderella choice. This year? Maybe Washington, but their fans that I know personally have been insufferable this year. Not Atlanta, not the Cards... the Reds?

Sure, why not. Go Reds!

/until the Series
//then, FARK YOU
///go Yankees
 
2012-10-03 11:31:32 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: It would only negatively impact anything if it gets to where hockey is: where the regular season doesn't really matter and the playoffs are like a whole separate season. Adding a one-game playoff doesn't do that. Expanding the field to 8 teams per league would Not playing.


FTFY.
 
2012-10-03 12:24:35 PM

robsul82: Three Crooked Squirrels: If things play out and there is a game 163, is it in Baltimore or NY?

Baltimore.


I wonder if that would be a day game? I kind of feel a really bad case of mystery stomach virus might be about to hit me.
 
2012-10-03 12:27:10 PM
Though a possible Thursday one-game playoff counts for individual stats, it wouldn't affect the Tigers opponent. The Tigers will play the division champion that has the fewer wins over the 162-game schedule.
 
2012-10-03 12:32:49 PM
Sixteen hits and only 4 runs to show for it is no way to go through the season or the playoffs, Yankees.

Whatever. Just win today, please.
 
2012-10-03 12:38:32 PM
So I've got both the Orioles/Rays and Yankees/Sox games on ESPN/2 tonight, with the Presidential debate coming on right over the endings of both games. Damn.
 
2012-10-03 12:40:43 PM

mainstreet62: Sixteen Eleven hits and only 4 runs total to show for it is no way to go through the season or the playoffs two chances you had to win the division outright, Yankees Rangers.

Whatever. Just win today, please.

 
2012-10-03 12:42:57 PM
Since the AL was already covered, the only NL scenario of note is who gets the #1 seed.

Cincinnati and Washington are both at 97-64. Washington hold the tiebreaker after taking 5 of 7 over the Reds this season.

Nats win (vs PHI) or Reds loss (at STL) gives Washington the #1 seed and they would face the wild card winner (STL @ ATL)

A Reds win AND a Nats loss gives Cincinnati the #1 seed.

San Francisco is locked as the #3 seed and will host either WAS or CIN for games 1 and 2 of the NLDS Saturday and Sunday.

/remember, lower seed hosts DS games 1 and 2 this year.
 
2012-10-03 12:45:52 PM
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Soon, Rangers. SOON.
 
2012-10-03 12:46:34 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.

It would only negatively impact anything if it gets to where hockey is: where the regular season doesn't really matter and the playoffs are like a whole separate season. Adding a one-game playoff doesn't do that. Expanding the field to 8 teams per league would.


Ah yes, the tired old argument about how the regular season doesn't mean anything in hockey.

14 teams are out. They are not involved in the 'other season' = The regular season mattered to them.
Some teams made it in by one or two points = The regular season mattered to them.
Some teams missed by one or two points = The regular season mattered to them.
A teams wins the Cup and got the seeding that lead them there = The regular season mattered to them.
A high seed is knocked out by a low seed. Humiliation based on season record = The regular season mattered to them.
A low seed goes far in playoffs. All the sweeter because of season record = The regular season mattered to them.

/pet peeve
 
2012-10-03 12:46:53 PM

mainstreet62: Sixteen hits and only 4 runs to show for it is no way to go through the season or the playoffs, Yankees.


I think Mark Teixeira was personally responsible for half of the LOB last night
 
2012-10-03 12:51:44 PM

ChrisDe: Though a possible Thursday one-game playoff counts for individual stats, it wouldn't affect the Tigers opponent. The Tigers will play the division champion that has the fewer wins over the 162-game schedule.


Tigers will play whomever ends up as the #2.
 
2012-10-03 12:52:57 PM

desertgeek: Since the AL was already covered, the only NL scenario of note is who gets the #1 seed.

Cincinnati and Washington are both at 97-64. Washington hold the tiebreaker after taking 5 of 7 over the Reds this season.

Nats win (vs PHI) or Reds loss (at STL) gives Washington the #1 seed and they would face the wild card winner (STL @ ATL)

A Reds win AND a Nats loss gives Cincinnati the #1 seed.

San Francisco is locked as the #3 seed and will host either WAS or CIN for games 1 and 2 of the NLDS Saturday and Sunday.

/remember, lower seed hosts DS games 1 and 2 this year.


Does the whole "#1 team doesn't play wild card if wild card comes from their division" thing still hold?

And lower seed hosting games 1 and 2 suuuuuuuuuuucks.

Go Nats. Barring them, go Reds. Barring them, go Cards. Barring them, go Giants.

I'm oddly happy to see Chipper go out with some level of success. But. Some level. Lose the play in game by 50.
 
2012-10-03 12:56:43 PM

Dafatone: Does the whole "#1 team doesn't play wild card if wild card comes from their division" thing still hold?


Nope. The wild card can play a team from their own division in the first round now.
 
2012-10-03 12:57:26 PM

Dafatone: Does the whole "#1 team doesn't play wild card if wild card comes from their division" thing still hold?


No. That's gone. #1 seed plays the wild card game winner regardless of division

And lower seed hosting games 1 and 2 suuuuuuuuuuucks.

It does, but it's only for this year. Things go back to "normal" next year.
 
2012-10-03 12:57:54 PM

ThatGuyGreg: I still need to pick my NL-team-that-I-choose-to-care-about-during-the-playoffs this year... last year, the Cards were an easy Cinderella choice. This year? Maybe Washington, but their fans that I know personally have been insufferable this year. Not Atlanta, not the Cards... the Reds?

Sure, why not. Go Reds!

/until the Series
//then, FARK YOU
///go Yankees


Why not Cards? Then maybe the Yankees can finally try to prove that they are better than St Louis...
 
2012-10-03 01:00:32 PM

NeoCortex42: So I've got both the Orioles/Rays and Yankees/Sox games on ESPN/2 tonight, with the Presidential debate coming on right over the endings of both games. Damn.


Not to get political, but just watch the games. If you already know who you're voting for, there's not much reason to watch the debates when there's something better on and you can just read summaries on the web. If you don't already know who you're voting for, you're an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.
 
2012-10-03 01:02:20 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Also, OHH. Written in the stars, a million miles away . . .


DON'T. I swear to God...
 
2012-10-03 01:02:55 PM

idesofmarch: NeoCortex42: So I've got both the Orioles/Rays and Yankees/Sox games on ESPN/2 tonight, with the Presidential debate coming on right over the endings of both games. Damn.

Not to get political, but just watch the games. If you already know who you're voting for, there's not much reason to watch the debates when there's something better on and you can just read summaries on the web. If you don't already know who you're voting for, you're an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.


I'm not watching the debates as an undecided voter. I honestly think they may be entertaining to some degree. I'll probably throw the games up on my laptop, though. I've got an MLB.TV subscription and this is probably the best solution for me.
 
2012-10-03 01:03:44 PM

idesofmarch: Three Crooked Squirrels: Also, OHH. Written in the stars, a million miles away . . .

DON'T. I swear to God...


I literally screamed "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" when that came on during the Olympics closing cerimonies
 
2012-10-03 01:04:03 PM

The Bestest: Dafatone: Does the whole "#1 team doesn't play wild card if wild card comes from their division" thing still hold?

No. That's gone. #1 seed plays the wild card game winner regardless of division

And lower seed hosting games 1 and 2 suuuuuuuuuuucks.

It does, but it's only for this year. Things go back to "normal" next year.



Wait, what? What's preventing MLB from implementing this "normal" this year? Or, for that matter, just having a 2-2-1 format for their Divisional series in the first place (do they go 5 so often that it'll really have an impact? Or is it strictly so travel days can't push WS games 5-7 into November?)
 
2012-10-03 01:05:47 PM

The Bestest: Dafatone: Does the whole "#1 team doesn't play wild card if wild card comes from their division" thing still hold?

No. That's gone. #1 seed plays the wild card game winner regardless of division

And lower seed hosting games 1 and 2 suuuuuuuuuuucks.

It does, but it's only for this year. Things go back to "normal" next year.


Correct and it's already been announced that next season will finish on a Sunday, giving schedulers the room to fit the extra 2 wild card playoff games in properly.
 
2012-10-03 01:07:32 PM

The Bestest: mainstreet62: Sixteen hits and only 4 runs to show for it is no way to go through the season or the playoffs, Yankees.

I think Mark Teixeira was personally responsible for half of the LOB last night


Which should worry us, because he tends to disappear offensively at this time of the year. A-Rod has been flaming out recently, too.
 
2012-10-03 01:09:13 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Also, OHH. Written in the stars, a million miles away . . .


FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
2012-10-03 01:09:33 PM

Loomy: Wait, what? What's preventing MLB from implementing this "normal" this year? Or, for that matter, just having a 2-2-1 format for their Divisional series in the first place (do they go 5 so often that it'll really have an impact? Or is it strictly so travel days can't push WS games 5-7 into November?)


It's because the extra wild card was "shoehorned" into the season this year.
The season schedule was approved -before- the new wild card was ratified, and MLBPA was throwing a biatchfit over travel, and TBS and Fox were being jerks about any major alterations to post-season dates, so the 2-3 format is a temporary compromise.
 
2012-10-03 01:09:48 PM

Loomy: The Bestest: Dafatone: Does the whole "#1 team doesn't play wild card if wild card comes from their division" thing still hold?

No. That's gone. #1 seed plays the wild card game winner regardless of division

And lower seed hosting games 1 and 2 suuuuuuuuuuucks.

It does, but it's only for this year. Things go back to "normal" next year.


Wait, what? What's preventing MLB from implementing this "normal" this year? Or, for that matter, just having a 2-2-1 format for their Divisional series in the first place (do they go 5 so often that it'll really have an impact? Or is it strictly so travel days can't push WS games 5-7 into November?)


The World Series is locked into its dates so they had to squeeze the 2 WC playoff games in and lose some off days. Thus, the 2-3 format for this year. They say they'll go back to 2-2-1 next year.
 
2012-10-03 01:10:02 PM

Loomy: What's preventing MLB from implementing this "normal" this year? Or, for that matter, just having a 2-2-1 format for their Divisional series in the first place (do they go 5 so often that it'll really have an impact? Or is it strictly so travel days can't push WS games 5-7 into November?)


The postseason schedule was set before the addition of the extra wild card. With the extra game, the start of the division series was pushed back 1 day, eating one of the two travel days. That necessitated changing the format so that both teams could get at least one home game (meaning ticket and concession revenues).
 
2012-10-03 01:11:47 PM

mainstreet62: Which should worry us, because he tends to disappear offensively at this time of the year. A-Rod has been flaming out recently, too.


I'm giving Tex benefit of doubt since he's fresh off the DL, but I had choice colorful language for him by the SECOND time he grounded into a double play with 1 out and a runner on 3rd last night.
 
2012-10-03 01:19:14 PM

IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.


It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.
 
2012-10-03 01:20:27 PM
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I hope to god we get to whoop the Yankees in the 1st round!
 
2012-10-03 01:21:26 PM
THIS TRAIN!
 
2012-10-03 01:21:36 PM

Tiberius Gracchus: It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.


the funnier thing is that of the big four, he's the one that has to contend with the strongest players union
 
2012-10-03 01:21:43 PM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: [i1247.photobucket.com image 250x250]

I hope to god we get to whoop the Yankees in the 1st round!



Do you plan on giving them seizures first?
 
2012-10-03 01:23:18 PM

Tiberius Gracchus: IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.

It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.


I like the new two wild-card system, because it makes the division championship meaningful again. Before, the wild card winner automatically went in on the same footing, basically (yeah, I know, they were the #4 seed) as the division champs. Which meant that who gave a damn if you won the division or not.

Now, if you don't win the division, you face a one-game crapshoot to get to the Division Series. It certainly means that you'd probably better win your division if you can.
 
2012-10-03 01:24:12 PM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: I hope to god we get to whoop the Yankees in the 1st round!


Yankees have the easiest path to the 1st seed, so it's more likely you'll get the Rangers or A's, but anything can still happen.
 
2012-10-03 01:24:43 PM
Very much hoping for the Tigers to go three and out and for their shiatty fans to have to break out the Lions hats they just bought last year in lieu of the Tigers hats they just bought in 2006.
 
2012-10-03 01:25:15 PM

The Bestest: Tiberius Gracchus: It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.

the funnier thing is that of the big four, he's the one that has to contend with the strongest players union


and yet, MLB hasn't lost a single game (preseason included) due to a work stoppage this century.

/remember, the NFL cancelled the Hall of Fame Game last year due to how long the players lockout lasted.
 
2012-10-03 01:27:34 PM

idesofmarch: NeoCortex42: So I've got both the Orioles/Rays and Yankees/Sox games on ESPN/2 tonight, with the Presidential debate coming on right over the endings of both games. Damn.

Not to get political, but just watch the games. If you already know who you're voting for, there's not much reason to watch the debates when there's something better on and you can just read summaries on the web. If you don't already know who you're voting for, you're an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway. debates are the worst way to decide who to vote for


FTFY
 
2012-10-03 01:28:34 PM

The Bestest: Tiberius Gracchus: It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.

the funnier thing is that of the big four, he's the one that has to contend with the strongest players union


I didn't even consider that in my initial calculation (just the years of labor peace). But to have this with such a strong union...

OH MY GOD! Have I been wrong all this time about hating Selig?
 
2012-10-03 01:28:58 PM

jake_lex: Tiberius Gracchus: IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.

It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.

I like the new two wild-card system, because it makes the division championship meaningful again. Before, the wild card winner automatically went in on the same footing, basically (yeah, I know, they were the #4 seed) as the division champs. Which meant that who gave a damn if you won the division or not.

Now, if you don't win the division, you face a one-game crapshoot to get to the Division Series. It certainly means that you'd probably better win your division if you can.


Eh. The system rewards Detroit for being in a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible division. 

/Detroit would be in 4th place in the AL East or AL West. And that's not counting the fact that they'd play a tougher schedule, too.
 
2012-10-03 01:29:33 PM

jake_lex: Tiberius Gracchus: IAmRight: My favorite part about baseball fans is that they'll talk about how awesome this is, then they'll go immediately back to b*tching about Selig's expansion of the playoffs as a way he's negatively impacted the game.

It's kind of crazy to think that even WITH the PEDs issue Selig appears to be the best commissioner in American sports.

I like the new two wild-card system, because it makes the division championship meaningful again. Before, the wild card winner automatically went in on the same footing, basically (yeah, I know, they were the #4 seed) as the division champs. Which meant that who gave a damn if you won the division or not.

Now, if you don't win the division, you face a one-game crapshoot to get to the Division Series. It certainly means that you'd probably better win your division if you can.


I'd still rather the wild card be a 2 of 3 or 3 of 5. I know you probably couldn't work that with the long time off for the division winners, but the one game thing leaves a sour taste in my mouth,
 
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