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(Chron)   Six weeks before the election, Texas officials decide to purge dead voters from the rolls. And by dead, we mean alive. And by alive we mean black   (chron.com) divider line 76
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2012-10-03 12:07:56 AM
That's rrrrrracist!

sayanythingblog.com
 
2012-10-03 12:25:28 AM
Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?
 
2012-10-03 01:11:56 AM
Texas is worried?

Wow, this is going to be a bigger blowout than I expected.
 
2012-10-03 02:00:36 AM

Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?


Nope. That's the point. Gotta protect 'Merica from dem Mooslim neegroes.
 
2012-10-03 02:04:31 AM

Gig103: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

Nope. That's the point. Gotta protect 'Merica from dem Mooslim neegroes.


Don't forget about the Hispanics.

And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?
 
2012-10-03 03:04:33 AM
God damnit, Republicans. Stop being such evil pieces of shiat.
 
2012-10-03 03:07:25 AM

Tor_Eckman: Texas is worried?

Wow, this is going to be a bigger blowout than I expected.


It's the state races, not the national one.

Same reason they spearheaded the voter ID bill that the court shot down. Texas Republicans know that, while voting demographics are still majority white, the window is soon closing and within a decade or 2, Texas will be a decidedly purple state.

Of course their solution would be to keep the voter rolls as white as possible for as long as possible. It's kind of their only option since they've spent 50 years alienating non-whites.

The Southern Strategy did work, just not the way a lot of Republicans hoped it would.
 
2012-10-03 03:12:13 AM

stoli n coke: It's kind of their only option since they've spent 50 years alienating non-whites.


Only fifty years? Are you sure you don't mean 176?
 
2012-10-03 03:12:31 AM
I've recently started to wonder if the UN or some other human rights organisation is going to step in and take charge of the election, because there are some third-world dictatorships that would be embarrassed by the GOP's behaviour this year.
 
2012-10-03 03:14:28 AM

red5ish: stoli n coke: It's kind of their only option since they've spent 50 years alienating non-whites.

Only fifty years? Are you sure you don't mean 176?


It's only been part of the Republican party's platform since the early 60s, when they started courting the Dixiecrats.
 
2012-10-03 03:17:58 AM

Tor_Eckman: Texas is worried?

Wow, this is going to be a bigger blowout than I expected.


It's all about making sure the House stays in (R) hands until 2014 to set them up for 2016, at this point. They need to have at least two obstruction points (House Majority, Senate Filibuster) to be able to claim Obama is unwilling to be bipartisan and doesn't accomplish anything (without a one word retort) to the middle while they keep hyping up the base about how he's destroying America.
 
2012-10-03 03:21:54 AM

fusillade762: Gig103: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

Nope. That's the point. Gotta protect 'Merica from dem Mooslim neegroes.

Don't forget about the Hispanics.


We see here that somebody named Carlos Gonzales has died.
Purge all the voters named Gonzalez, or Rodriguez and to be safe, anyone named Carlos.
 
2012-10-03 03:23:50 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: I've recently started to wonder if the UN or some other human rights organisation is going to step in and take charge of the election, because there are some third-world dictatorships that would be embarrassed by the GOP's behaviour this year.


The UN is neither the supreme savior that liberals imagine or the evil shadow organization that conservatives imagine. It's more of a mishmash of folks going "Ehhh Idunno."
 
2012-10-03 03:35:45 AM
ww2.hdnux.com 

Oh, well, not like me. But... look, see those birds? At some point a program was written to govern them. A program was written to watch over the trees, and the wind, the sunrise, and sunset. There are programs running all over the place. The ones doing their job, doing what they were meant to do, are invisible. You'd never even know they were here. But the other ones, well, we hear about them all the time 
 
2012-10-03 03:38:28 AM

WizardofToast: Fluorescent Testicle: I've recently started to wonder if the UN or some other human rights organisation is going to step in and take charge of the election, because there are some third-world dictatorships that would be embarrassed by the GOP's behaviour this year.

The UN is neither the supreme savior that liberals imagine or the evil shadow organization that conservatives imagine. It's more of a mishmash of folks going "Ehhh Idunno."


That's quite the strawman you've got there. I challenge you to provide a single example of a liberal calling the UN anything even approaching "savior".
 
2012-10-03 03:40:23 AM
Why...here's all that massive voter fraud they've been searching for! Turns out they didn't have to look very far, after all.

This smacks of desperation by an angry, fearful, and increasingly irrelevant Republican party.
 
2012-10-03 03:42:19 AM

WizardofToast: The UN is neither the supreme savior that liberals imagine or the evil shadow organization that conservatives imagine. It's more of a mishmash of folks going "Ehhh Idunno."


Wut. In which alternate universe did I say anything like that?
 
2012-10-03 03:55:40 AM
Surely with all the voter fraud allegations we've been throwing around, nobody will notice us committing the exact same crime, right?

Right?

Guize?
 
2012-10-03 03:59:28 AM

fusillade762: And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?


Nope. In defending the lawsuit here in PA against the new ID law, the attorney general stipulated that they had no proof of any voter fraud having occurred.
 
2012-10-03 04:17:57 AM
But don't think this shiat will be over after the election. These farkers are just getting started. Their next big move may be to try to get SCOTUS to overturn parts of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Link

At this rate, by 2016, we'll all have to prove that we're either Caucasian and/or registered as an (R) to cast a ballot.
 
2012-10-03 04:38:52 AM
Subby, we all know that purging dead voters means purging potential democrats. This isn't some civilized society where people are more concerned with guaranteeing freedoms than they are with winning an election for their team.
 
2012-10-03 04:39:21 AM

cc_rider: At this rate, by 2016, we'll all have to prove that we're either Caucasian and/or registered as an (R) to cast a ballot.


Luckily I'm both. Still gonna vote for Obama, though, and realistically I'll probably have to vote straight Democrat for... at least the next decade.
 
2012-10-03 04:39:29 AM

Dwight_Yeast: fusillade762: And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?

Nope. In defending the lawsuit here in PA against the new ID law, the attorney general stipulated that they had no proof of any voter fraud having occurred.


And the judge still upheld the law on its merits.
 
2012-10-03 05:18:50 AM
I'm going to break from the heard and say I don't think this was done for racist reasons. It was dirty however. Its the typical republic election steal attempts. They think that their belief in the correctness of their stances justifies ANYTHING they can do to "win" for "the greater good."

But know its not about race - that is a trap. It is class-ism. You see those Americans of African descent are disproportionately poorer than those.Americans of European descent - on average. Those who control the Republican party(and whom also heavily influence Democrats too) push for policies that harm the poor in favor of granting more wealth and control to themselves. They use the racists to distort the argument.

So the Democrats cry "that is racist" and the misguided Republican base correctly retorts that these policies are not shaped to target any particular race(even if that is the net effect). Its a very clever game to keep poor people divided among racial lines and the middle class against the "lazy, entitled" poor. The elite are farking us all - and pin us all against each other. That is why they always win.

They don't just take all the money. They take all the power. They take from us the power to control our own destiny. Get in line serf.

The thing we MUST do - stop playing their game. Stop the cries of racism. Paint things as they actually are - CLASS WARFARE. Things like this, like Voter ID laws, like restricting early voting and modifying poll hours selectively. These people will do everything in their power to stop the poor from voting. Because the poor voting - especially the poor that don't vote for the Republican - aka the party that pushes for neo-feudalism.
 
2012-10-03 05:32:15 AM
Party of Lincoln
 
2012-10-03 07:15:57 AM

Dwight_Yeast: fusillade762: And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?

Nope. In defending the lawsuit here in PA against the new ID law, the attorney general stipulated that they had no proof of any voter fraud having occurred.


In Indiana the guy convicted of fraudulent voting was the Republican candidate who won the Secretary of State election. The guy who oversees elections. He knowingly voted in a district he no longer lived in so that he could keep his old government position if he didn't win the election.

He also dismissed the allegations as being over laws that don't matter and are ridiculous to uphold.

How quickly the tune changes....
 
2012-10-03 07:20:18 AM

zerkalo: Party of Lincoln


The Republican party is no longer the party of Lincoln, hell they are not even the same party they were 20 years ago let alone 150+
 
2012-10-03 07:47:41 AM

fusillade762: Gig103: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

Nope. That's the point. Gotta protect 'Merica from dem Mooslim neegroes.

Don't forget about the Hispanics.

And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?


This is what the GOP does. And they think because they do it, then the Democrats must do it too!
 
2012-10-03 07:47:56 AM
I'm sick of this shiat.

I probably need to think this through a little, but If I had a magic wand, I'd make a federal law that prevents localities from purging or cleaning registered voter lists within 120 days of every year's November election with a similar blackout before the spring election.
 
2012-10-03 07:47:57 AM
but but but



ACORN?
 
2012-10-03 07:48:45 AM
It's pretty scary to think how much worse the situation would be if it wasn't for the fact that the voting rights act still gives the federal government a lot of control over what these southern states try to do. And fitting that a Texan created the law.
 
2012-10-03 08:07:29 AM
That's... unnecessary
 
2012-10-03 08:09:40 AM
You just know these regressive assholes would love to bring back Poll Taxes if they could...
 
2012-10-03 08:12:26 AM
This is xanadian's "shocked" face:

:-/

/stay classy, Texas
 
2012-10-03 08:15:19 AM

fusillade762: Gig103: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

Nope. That's the point. Gotta protect 'Merica from dem Mooslim neegroes.

Don't forget about the Hispanics.

And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?


SUPPOSEDLY, back In The Day (tm), people would assume the identity of a dead person so they could register and vote twice.

And, hey, you never know. Zombies are most likely to vote for the guy who's promised brrraaaaiiiinnnsss for everyone.
 
2012-10-03 08:27:46 AM
Secede already,scumbags.
 
2012-10-03 08:27:51 AM
Republicans suck.

Subby +1 on the headline
 
2012-10-03 08:31:00 AM
Sumners told the Chronicle that the process of comparing names, dates of birth and identification numbers in voter records and social security death data was race neutral. He suggested any disproportionate impact might relate to the aging of voters in historically black neighborhoods.

Yeah, its not like Baby Boomers exist. It's only the Blacks who are getting old.
 
2012-10-03 08:34:41 AM
Across Texas, voters named Smith, Johnson, Williams, Jones, Brown, Davis, Garcia and Rodriguez were most likely to be tagged as possibly deceased in the recent clean-up effort, the Chronicle's analysis of all 70,000 voters identified as "weak matches" shows.

"If you're alive, please step forward. Ok, Susie, Rebecca, Brent...whoa, not so fast, Darnell."
 
2012-10-03 08:38:16 AM

xanadian: fusillade762: Gig103: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

Nope. That's the point. Gotta protect 'Merica from dem Mooslim neegroes.

Don't forget about the Hispanics.

And I don't get the point of this, really. Are zombie voters really a problem?

SUPPOSEDLY, back In The Day (tm), people would assume the identity of a dead person so they could register and vote twice.

And, hey, you never know. Zombies are most likely to vote for the guy who's promised brrraaaaiiiinnnsss for everyone.


By "Back in the DayTM" I assume you mean something like the "Daly Machine".

csb:
I grew up in Cook County, (Chicago Heights), in the 60's and 70's it was EXPECTED that all Democrats vote.....and vote often.

The husband of my Dad's AA was a big wheel in the South Side Wards. He was indicted for voter fraud, authorities claimed he voted 16 times in one election.

His wife's comment? "Bullshiat, he did his civic duty and voted 42 times, they must think he's an amateur."

end csb
 
2012-10-03 08:51:29 AM
This country seriously needs a constitutional amendment that brings the execution of Federal elections under complete control of the Federal government. Let these idiots ruin their local elections. Keep the Federal elections clear of these local, two-bit morons.
 
2012-10-03 08:53:37 AM
Texas, where the KKK still controls the Governor's Mansion
 
2012-10-03 08:56:17 AM
Ah, another Texas hate thread. The best way to fight bigotry? Make some of your own.

//Texas is awesome
 
2012-10-03 09:02:07 AM
cancelled unless they proved they were not deceased,

Apparently showing up alive to vote is not proof enough when you are the being targeted by the GOP in their election fraud scheme.
 
2012-10-03 09:05:46 AM
At what point do you declare failure and call in UN inspectors?
 
2012-10-03 09:09:24 AM
If you're a darkie and you know it, do not vote.

If you're a darkie and you know it, do not vote.

If you're a darkie and you know it, and you really wanna show it, if you're a darkie and you know it, do not vote.
 
2012-10-03 09:19:51 AM
When did the GOP turn into Los Guerreros? Why aren't they trying to win elections by offering a better choice than the Democrats, instead of lying about everything Obama does and trying to cheat Democratic supporters out of their right to vote?
 
2012-10-03 09:23:11 AM
Across Texas, voters named Smith, Johnson, Williams, Jones, Brown, Davis, Garcia and Rodriguez were most likely to be tagged as possibly deceased in the recent clean-up effort, the Chronicle's analysis of all 70,000 voters identified as "weak matches" shows. Some surnames are particularly common among African-Americans. About 13,000 voters listed had last names associated with Hispanic heritage, according to a list maintained by the U.S. Census bureau.

This is the Florida 2000 ChoicePoint strategy at work again.

Thanks Republican Party for working for disenfranchisement. [satire] GOP, party of anti-democracy. Do you operatives lack any conscience or ethics?
 
2012-10-03 09:23:46 AM

Wyalt Derp: When did the GOP turn into Los Guerreros? Why aren't they trying to win elections by offering a better choice than the Democrats, instead of lying about everything Obama does and trying to cheat Democratic supporters out of their right to vote?


Because THEY GOT NUTHIN'
 
2012-10-03 09:25:16 AM

stoli n coke: red5ish: stoli n coke: It's kind of their only option since they've spent 50 years alienating non-whites.

Only fifty years? Are you sure you don't mean 176?

It's only been part of the Republican party's platform since the early 60s, when they started courting the Dixiecrats.


True, but the real push has been happening for 39 years.
Roe v Wade influenced a lot of white voters, scared of takeover by the non-white baby making machinery.

Most Texas Republicans visibly flinch when seeing a pregnant Latino.
 
2012-10-03 09:34:46 AM
And nothing will be done about it.

We'll express our outrage, and ten-pounds-of-Mein-krusher will provide examples of something a Democrat did once, and this policy will remain in effect.

If you're a Republican in 2012, there's something wrong with you.
 
2012-10-03 09:38:12 AM
at this point I'm surprised the Republicans haven't started purging women from the voter rolls, just 'cuz we wimmenfolks tend to be more liberal.

Oops did I just give them an idea?
 
2012-10-03 09:42:31 AM
SVenus: Most Texas Republicans visibly flinch when seeing a pregnant Latino.

I'd flinch, too. You don't see a pregnant very often.
 
2012-10-03 09:43:55 AM
ComicBookGuy: SVenus: Most Texas Republicans visibly flinch when seeing a pregnant Latino.

I'd flinch, too. You don't see a pregnant very often.


Er, man.
 
2012-10-03 09:44:24 AM

roadkillontheweb: zerkalo: Party of Lincoln

The Republican party is no longer the party of Lincoln, hell they are not even the same party they were 20 years ago let alone 150+


Thatsthejoke.gif
 
2012-10-03 10:00:20 AM
I check my registration status every time I see one of these stories. So far, I'm still there.

/registered as a Republic just to be sure
//gonna caucus this year!
///tie dye or leather?
 
2012-10-03 10:03:07 AM
This is what really makes me sad about Bush v Gore. I'm supposed to get over the SCOTUS stepping in and meddling.

But no one talks about what happened before and during the election that gave Bush those 500 or so votes he would have inevitably won with no matter the method of recounting.

Rampant voter fraud can't be covered up by a post-voting day SCOTUS decision. No way. No sir.
 
2012-10-03 10:13:03 AM

Egalitarian: at this point I'm surprised the Republicans haven't started purging women from the voter rolls, just 'cuz we wimmenfolks tend to be more liberal.

Oops did I just give them an idea?


The article doesn't mention first names
 
2012-10-03 10:16:47 AM

keylock71: You just know these regressive assholes would love to bring back Poll Taxes if they could...


One state was required to waive the fees for state IDs for just that reason...and DMV employees who mentioned this fact to voters were fired.
 
2012-10-03 10:37:57 AM
Well, my family's registration just finished processing, so we're good to go to help offset some of those purged.

/got purged once, won't let it catch me by surprise again
 
2012-10-03 10:45:40 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Sumners told the Chronicle that the process of comparing names, dates of birth and identification numbers in voter records and social security death data was race neutral. He suggested any disproportionate impact might relate to the aging of voters in historically black neighborhoods.

Yeah, its not like Baby Boomers exist. It's only the Blacks who are getting old.


Also sounds like from the article each individual area had their own leeway to decide how much checking to do if someone was dead.

Sounds like they just happened to do less checking in some parts of town. Funny coincidence, that.
 
2012-10-03 11:12:39 AM

Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?


FTFA: Because of widespread complaints, no county voters will be purged before the November elections unless their deaths are independently confirmed, according to Don Sumners, the county's tax assessor collector and voter registrar.
 
2012-10-03 11:24:22 AM
I'm a white female, live in TX, and received one of these letters. My brother died. His name was Glen. My name is Louise. His address and SS# were not remotely similar. I have been voting for Dems for 8 years now. (I have the only Obama sign in my entire area.) The Registrar has a record of how we vote. In my mind, this is clearly directed @ liberal voters.
None of my teaparty relatives/neighbors received such a letter. My dead brother didn't even receive such a letter. (I pick up his mail.)
 
2012-10-03 11:35:44 AM

Introitus: That's rrrrrracist!

[sayanythingblog.com image 280x400]


No. Not intentionally racist, just stupid:

Across Texas, voters named Smith, Johnson, Williams, Jones, Brown, Davis, Garcia and Rodriguez were most likely to be tagged as possibly deceased in the recent clean-up effort, the Chronicle's analysis of all 70,000 voters identified as "weak matches" shows.

The problem with "weak matches" is that they're filed if a death certificate has been added to the rolls with your name anywhere. Not your date of birth, not in your hometown, not your SSN, just your name, anywhere. Since the USA doesn't follow the one-Steve limit, that means the more common your name, the more likely you are to be flagged and checked.

The reason for the correlation is not that they're picking "black" names (all of those are white names too), it's that poorer people (historically disproportionately certain minorities) are more likely to not get the notice, not be able to respond in time, etc.

The solution is really just not to take the carpet-bombing approach in the first place. Just use the strong-match list (you only get the 'are you alive' note if a death certificate is filed with your _full_ name and DOB/SSN/DL/whatever) and give up on weak matches entirely. There's still the response bias, but it no longer matters because the vast, vast majority of the strong match list are in fact actually dead.

Recovered Republican: I'm a white female, live in TX, and received one of these letters. My brother died. His name was Glen. My name is Louise. His address and SS# were not remotely similar


This would be an example of why the weak match shiat is a bad idea. Same last name, same listed place of birth or past address, born within a few years of the same time (I assume) and that's considered close enough to merit investigation.

The department is in fact doing the checks blind, they're not checking your affiliation. The system is just way tilted for false positives in general.
 
2012-10-03 11:36:38 AM

Girl From The North Country: Republicans suck.


This.
 
2012-10-03 11:48:24 AM
So... do we have a felony crime committed in the disenfranchisement of voters or a civil class action lawsuit on behalf of every person directly disenfranchised by the incompetence of the officials?

I'm envisioning the ads right now. "Were you turned back from the polls at this election because your name was removed from the voter rolls? The attorneys of Sandler Sandler and Slander are willing to seek compensation for you from those who harmed you."
 
2012-10-03 11:58:28 AM

Recovered Republican: I'm a white female, live in TX, and received one of these letters. My brother died. His name was Glen. My name is Louise. His address and SS# were not remotely similar. I have been voting for Dems for 8 years now. (I have the only Obama sign in my entire area.) The Registrar has a record of how we vote. In my mind, this is clearly directed @ liberal voters.
None of my teaparty relatives/neighbors received such a letter. My dead brother didn't even receive such a letter. (I pick up his mail.)


First off, i'm so sorry for your loss. :-(

Second, thank you for reminding me to hit my state's Secretary of State site to verify my registration is still there.


Allow me to suggest all y'all do the same, regardless of political affiliation.
 
2012-10-03 12:03:37 PM
All the while, the GOP justifies their election fraud by claiming they are fighting election fraud.
 
2012-10-03 12:18:28 PM

BeesNuts: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

FTFA: Because of widespread complaints, no county voters will be purged before the November elections unless their deaths are independently confirmed, according to Don Sumners, the county's tax assessor collector and voter registrar.


follow up: strategic allied consulting hired on for independent confirmation of deceased voters in texas.

/they're already in the area registering voters.
 
2012-10-03 12:35:24 PM

not5am: BeesNuts: Apos: Abhorrent situation. Can this even be rectified before Election Day?

FTFA: Because of widespread complaints, no county voters will be purged before the November elections unless their deaths are independently confirmed, according to Don Sumners, the county's tax assessor collector and voter registrar.

follow up: strategic allied consulting hired on for independent confirmation of deceased voters in texas.

/they're already in the area registering voters.


I have no doubt that there will be continued shenanigans. I was just pointing out that this seems to have been kibosh-ed already. Hopefully, continued "widespread complaints" can mitigate this generic brand of shiat as well as it appears to have mitigated this particular shiat. Keep biatching.
 
2012-10-03 12:43:54 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: All the while, the GOP justifies their election fraud by claiming they are fighting election fraud.


THIS!
 
2012-10-03 12:45:01 PM
They will not let Obama be elected even if they have to break every law on the books to do it.

Its the old saw "Our Noble Ends Justify Our Despicable Means". Humans have used this little mental trick of delusion (often invoking God seal the deal) to justify atrocities since the God "Brother Bear" told Thagg to brain Ook with a rock and take his wife, cave, and deer antler collection because he was His chosen.
 
2012-10-03 12:57:12 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: All the while, the GOP justifies their election voter registration fraud by claiming they are fighting election fraud.


FTFY
 
2012-10-03 01:39:29 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: All the while, the GOP justifies their election fraud by claiming they are fighting election fraud.


Its his best move...always has been.

si0.twimg.com
 
2012-10-03 02:34:12 PM

ComicBookGuy: ComicBookGuy: SVenus: Most Texas Republicans visibly flinch when seeing a pregnant Latino.

I'd flinch, too. You don't see a pregnant very often.

Er, man.


It's the beer. They all drink it, don't you know.
 
2012-10-03 08:06:58 PM

monoski: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: All the while, the GOP justifies their election fraud by claiming they are fighting election fraud.

THIS!


To be fair to them, I believe many think they are. If you've ever talked to someone who is likely to have a smidge of NPD in their psychological make-up, you know they assume the world revolves around them.

This means when they don't get what they want/expect it's always because of a conspiracy. They are not un-special enough to just be unpopular, or unworthy of a promotion.

I think what I'm trying to say is 'never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.'

/just checked, still registered
//for now...
 
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