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(WWL)   Don't look now, but Drew Brees is set this weekend to break an "unbreakable" NFL record that has stood for 52 years   (wwl.com) divider line 89
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2012-10-03 01:03:02 AM  

TheManofPA: As for the list, I could see Wilt's 100 getting broken at some point by someone who just wants to break it. I wouldn't bet on it, but I could see it being that it happens one day. The one that I can't see going down is the 56 games with a hit in a row. Wilt's just needs the perfect day, the 56er needs far too much luck


Yeah, I just don't see Wilt's 100 going down... from his account of the game, he was somewhat embarrassed by it when it happened, I don't see a modern athlete wanting to stay out there long enough to do it. Add in a decline in scoring since the days Wilt played and it becomes even more difficult. Kobe hit 81 back in 2006 and that's the closest anyone has come - still 20% back.

The 56 game hit streak could end... if Ichiro was able to break the 82 year old hit record for the season, then there's no reason to believe someone couldn't string a bunch together, though like you said it requires a lot of luck.
 
2012-10-03 01:22:03 AM  
What's the record, going 0-5 on an irreparably tainted team? Is that the record?
 
2012-10-03 01:28:14 AM  

robsul82: robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on Peter King's the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.

FTFM


FTFY. ;)
 
2012-10-03 01:29:28 AM  

Killer Cars: dickfreckle: dickfreckle: Fark almost all of you.

There, I said it.

B*tches.

/not trolling, but pissed off

I apologize. This thread should be about how awesome Unitas' son is, and not my bitterness over the 0-4 start.

Wow, this actually isn't the first time today someone in one of the sports threads completely flew off the handle, but did come back and apologize for it. This has been a strange, angsty-yet-sorryletshugitout day.


Go fark yourself. :)
 
2012-10-03 01:42:39 AM  
Remember kids:

National Basketball Association tailors its rules to protect marketable star players and discourage physical play, rules designed to increase scoring and viewership: "The league is such a joke. Star players get preferential treatment, and nobody plays defense anymore."

National Football League tailors its rules to protect marketable passing quarterbacks and discourage physical play at the receiver position, rules designed to increase scoring and viewership: "Truly, this is the golden age of quarterbacks."
 
2012-10-03 02:37:07 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Remember kids:


The funny thing is, if my understanding is correct, discouraging physical play in the NBA actually brings it closer to basketball's historical no-contact roots, whereas football... well, it was once violent enough to worry Theodore "Preserve Nature so My Grandkids Will Have Something to Kill" Roosevelt.
 
2012-10-03 03:41:01 AM  

dletter: That is a very nice letter from his son.

As far as this being a record comparable to Dimaggio's streak.... I don't buy that, especially in this current era of the QBs and passing game being the primary offensive driver on most teams. Any Top 5 QB should throw at least 1 TD per game.


Agreed, Rules were much different in Unitas' day. I wonder how many QB's could survive with the way things were in the 50's and 60's head slaps ect..
 
2012-10-03 06:49:06 AM  
LOL. So the original front-running, home dome, stat-padding garbage time QB gets to break a record thanks to a home dome, stat-padding garbage time TD. Congrats?
 
2012-10-03 07:06:16 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: LOL. So the original front-running, home dome, stat-padding garbage time QB gets to break a record thanks to a home dome, stat-padding garbage time TD. Congrats?


Sorry? Slight correction. The streak is alive thanks to a garbage time, stat-padding ROAD dome TD, week 8 last year at St. Louis.
 
2012-10-03 07:11:28 AM  
The highlight of the streak:

* 3rd and 8 at STL 8 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass short middle to L.Moore for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 20 31
* J.Kasay extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Drescher, Holder-C.Daniel. 21 31
* J.Kasay kicks onside 10 yards from NO 35 to NO 45. C.Chamberlain (didn't try to advance) to NO 45 for no gain (M.Jenkins).
DRIVE TOTALS: NO 21, STL 31, 15 plays, 74 yards, 2:45 elapsed

St. Louis Rams at 0:06 NOR STL
* 1st and 10 at NO 45 A.Feeley kneels to NO 46 for -1 yards.
* End of Game
 
2012-10-03 07:30:12 AM  
I know that Drew Brees is a nice guy and all, and he got a championship for NO, yadda yadda yadda ...
but with today's rules that basically put defenses on lawn chairs reading 50 Shades of Grey, I could step in right now and break that record in about 5 years.

and that was a classy letter from Mr. U.
 
2012-10-03 08:45:21 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


The single season triples record. No one is ever gonna go for 36 triples in a season, ever again.
 
2012-10-03 08:59:28 AM  

professorkowalski: roncofooddehydrator: MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

The single season triples record. No one is ever gonna go for 36 triples in a season, ever again.


There are several in baseball, I just felt like the batting average one is a bigger deal than other ones like triples. But yeah, noone will ever come close to that.
 
2012-10-03 09:11:04 AM  

TheManofPA: It was a joke post, but on the serious side, I thought it was one of those records where an injury eliminate you from consideration (i.e. a missed game results in no TD)


Nah, but it f*cks you if it happens early in a game (before the Seahawks game, Rodgers' last 0 TD game was the game he left concussed in the first half against Detroit).
 
2012-10-03 09:11:11 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: There are several in baseball, I just felt like the batting average one is a bigger deal than other ones like triples. But yeah, noone will ever come close to that.


In terms of career records, I'd say both Stolen Bases, and Wins will never be broken.
 
2012-10-03 09:18:17 AM  

professorkowalski: In terms of career records, I'd say both Stolen Bases, and Wins will never be broken.


Basically every pitching counting stat except saves and relief appearances is unbreakable now that teams carry 5 starters and 7 relievers. 

I don't think the NFL has too many unbreakable records. Some weird ones might be. Emmitt Smith's 4409 lifetime carries seems pretty safe.
 
2012-10-03 09:20:34 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.
 
2012-10-03 09:22:41 AM  

you have pee hands: professorkowalski: In terms of career records, I'd say both Stolen Bases, and Wins will never be broken.

Basically every pitching counting stat except saves and relief appearances is unbreakable now that teams carry 5 starters and 7 relievers. 

I don't think the NFL has too many unbreakable records. Some weird ones might be. Emmitt Smith's 4409 lifetime carries seems pretty safe.


Cal's consecutive starts may be unbreakable without major advances in sports medicine. Same with Farve's consecutive starts stat - unless QBs get even more rule protection... In which case Farve's will always be the most impressive.
 
2012-10-03 09:23:58 AM  
Randy Moss - most TDs in a rookie season.
Torrey Smith- most consecutive TDs receptions to start a career... (3)
 
2012-10-03 09:31:54 AM  

Mateorocks: NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.


Here's the list of career rushing average for the career. Pretty sure there's a minimum number of games to qualify for a career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_per_g_career. ht m

In this pass happy league, I'm not counting any of Rice's records as unbreakable.
 
2012-10-03 09:38:12 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: Mateorocks: NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.

Here's the list of career rushing average for the career. Pretty sure there's a minimum number of games to qualify for a career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_per_g_career. ht m

In this pass happy league, I'm not counting any of Rice's records as unbreakable.


That's an average of almost 1700 yds per season, to break Jim Browns record.

If someone could do it, more power to em. But we also live in an age where thousand yard seasons are a big deal, and that's only 67 yds a game.
 
2012-10-03 09:38:49 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


It may have been added by someone else, but I would say:

MLB - Nolan Ryan's records for: Strikeouts, walks, and career no hitters
 
2012-10-03 09:52:03 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


To add another, along with everyone else: Gretzky himself has said he thinks someone will score 200 points in a season again, and he thinks someone will score 90 goals in a season again, but the records he considers most unbreakable are 50 goals in 39 games and 51 consecutive game point scoring streak.

/fun fact: if Gretzky didn't play a single game for the rest of the season in 83-84 after his point scoring streak ended, he still would have won the scoring title by 22 points.
 
2012-10-03 09:52:11 AM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

It may have been added by someone else, but I would say:

MLB - Nolan Ryan's records for: Strikeouts, walks, and career no hitters


MLB... the Official pitching wins record of 511 by Cy Young. But, much of baseball records really is limiting comparing people to their era's (or at least within 1-2 era's of you) vs. trying to compare people to Ty Cobb and Cy Young, which is just not even viable.
 
2012-10-03 10:01:44 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: Mateorocks: NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.

Here's the list of career rushing average for the career. Pretty sure there's a minimum number of games to qualify for a career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_per_g_career. ht m

In this pass happy league, I'm not counting any of Rice's records as unbreakable.


If you think anyone is ever going to catch Rice at 22,895 receiving yards, I want what you're smoking. Larry Fitzgerald is at 9,860 yards and he's already been in the league 8 years. Megatron is much farther back than that.

Yeah, passing is way up...but you'd need to have back-to-back HOF QBs throwing to you most of your career.
 
2012-10-03 10:06:12 AM  

Jubeebee: but the records he considers most unbreakable are 50 goals in 39 games and 51 consecutive game point scoring streak.


I don't think anyone else will be getting 9 MVPs in 10 years or 8 consecutive MVPs, either.

/no record is unbreakable given an infinite amount of time. I'm sure all the football ones will be broken as we switch the rules back and forth
 
2012-10-03 10:12:53 AM  

Jubeebee: roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

To add another, along with everyone else: Gretzky himself has said he thinks someone will score 200 points in a season again, and he thinks someone will score 90 goals in a season again, but the records he considers most unbreakable are 50 goals in 39 games and 51 consecutive game point scoring streak.

/fun fact: if Gretzky didn't play a single game for the rest of the season in 83-84 after his point scoring streak ended, he still would have won the scoring title by 22 points.


If John Tortorella has his way, no one will ever score even a 100 points in a a season.

/The ludicrous ways his team goes about blocking shots needs to be put to an end.
 
2012-10-03 10:53:10 AM  

professorkowalski: If John Tortorella

Basketball Lawyer has his way, no one will ever score even a 100 points in a a season.

FTFY 

/Farking lockout
 
2012-10-03 11:05:38 AM  

Nobodyn0se: TheManofPA: Nobodyn0se: TheManofPA: ***snip***

It was a joke post, but on the serious side, I thought it was one of those records where an injury eliminate you from consideration (i.e. a missed game results in no TD)

If he started a game and got injured before he threw a touchdown pass, that would break the streak. If he got injured at practice (or in a game after throwing a TD pass) then the record would wait for him to get well again and start his next game.

Please note: I'm a not yet a doctor of footballology, or any other sports authority. I'm just a fan who thinks he knows stuff.


There are separate records for Consecutive Games and Consecutive Uninterrupted Games :3/4 of the way down the list. HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED is the Consecutive Uninterrupted Games leader at 36.
 
2012-10-03 11:10:13 AM  

roc6783: There are separate records for Consecutive Games and Consecutive Uninterrupted Games :3/4 of the way down the list. HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED is the Consecutive Uninterrupted Games leader at 36.


Well, kinda. Brees and Brady are tied with him apparently right now.
 
2012-10-03 11:19:26 AM  

IAmRight: roc6783: There are separate records for Consecutive Games and Consecutive Uninterrupted Games :3/4 of the way down the list. HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED is the Consecutive Uninterrupted Games leader at 36.

Well, kinda. Brees and Brady are tied with him apparently right now.


HAHA, I actually saw the Brett and just stopped reading. My eyes were following my heart, not my head.

//Don't actually hate Brent Faver.
 
2012-10-03 02:48:21 PM  

robsul82: dickfreckle: finaboy: Who dat? Who hasn't?

ATL. Watch.

Hell, if it must be a lost season? 2-14 wouldn't be SO bad, if that be the reason, lol.


When Tampa went to the Super Bowl we swept them. And you know how I feel about the Falcons. 2-14 sounds just about right to me, provided both wins were delivered to Atlanta. Christ I hate the Falcons.

/predicted 10-6, so it could still happen
 
2012-10-03 02:53:42 PM  

dickfreckle: /predicted 10-6, so it could still happen


Sigh...yeah I know.

/things are bad when you reply to your own posts
 
2012-10-03 03:39:10 PM  
Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up
 
2012-10-03 04:22:56 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up


You should come into one of the AL MVP threads and start arguing for Miguel Cabrera. We need more people like you there.
 
2012-10-03 05:39:42 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up


You are kidding, right?

If Unitas played with today's rules, everyone else would be fighting for "second best QB of all time".
 
2012-10-04 09:22:41 AM  

davidphogan: So either he sets the record against the Chargers, or his streak gets broken by them. That seems appropriate.


As a Chargers fan from the 1980's, I endorse this sentiment. All too often ex-Chargers come back and annihilate the team.

Sorry Drew, I hope they shut you out this week, but if not, stay classy, San Diego.
 
2012-10-04 10:05:27 AM  

Ro_thunder: davidphogan: So either he sets the record against the Chargers, or his streak gets broken by them. That seems appropriate.

As a Chargers fan from the 1980's, I endorse this sentiment. All too often ex-Chargers come back and annihilate the team.

Sorry Drew, I hope they shut you out this week, but if not, stay classy, San Diego Whale Vagina.


Agree to disagree.
 
2012-10-05 09:42:32 AM  

Broktun: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up

You are kidding, right?

If Unitas played with today's rules, everyone else would be fighting for "second best QB of all time".


If Sammy Baugh played with today's rules, EVERYONE would be fighting for "second best FOOTBALL PLAYER" of all time.

/Dude was the OG of football. And I love me some Johnny U, but Slingin' Sammy was better. on BOTH sides of the ball.
 
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