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2012-10-02 05:05:52 PM  
Too bad about that 0-4 record though.

/I got no room to talk, sAints fans
//it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2012-10-02 05:37:12 PM  
So either he sets the record against the Chargers, or his streak gets broken by them. That seems appropriate.
 
2012-10-02 06:18:06 PM  
i can't set my watch to that haircut.
 
2012-10-02 07:46:42 PM  
That is a very nice letter from his son.

As far as this being a record comparable to Dimaggio's streak.... I don't buy that, especially in this current era of the QBs and passing game being the primary offensive driver on most teams. Any Top 5 QB should throw at least 1 TD per game.
 
2012-10-02 07:50:19 PM  
Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the webpage for weeks, lol.
 
2012-10-02 07:51:23 PM  

robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.


FTFM
 
2012-10-02 08:10:25 PM  

robsul82: robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.

FTFM


Oh I fully believe this. Did they offer an official apology for Brett Favre not getting it?
 
2012-10-02 08:18:48 PM  

Nadie_AZ: robsul82: robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.

FTFM

Oh I fully believe this. Did they offer an official apology for Brett Favre not getting it?


Pretty sure they lowered the flags at Bristol for a week.
 
2012-10-02 08:20:43 PM  
Maybe this is Roger's swerve this week. He's going to wait until Thursday and re-suspend everyone for Bountygate...this time adding Drew saying he has new evidence he knew (i.e. a random phone call). He'll do it late enough so that appeals can't be heard from the game. Sure it'll get thrown out again, but man Vinny Mac would be proud of that manuever
 
2012-10-02 08:34:12 PM  

TheManofPA: Maybe this is Roger's swerve this week. He's going to wait until Thursday and re-suspend everyone for Bountygate...this time adding Drew saying he has new evidence he knew (i.e. a random phone call). He'll do it late enough so that appeals can't be heard from the game. Sure it'll get thrown out again, but man Vinny Mac would be proud of that manuever


Uh.... you realize it's a personal streak, so as long as he's not banned for life he would still have the opportunity to break the record on his first game back from suspension, right?
 
2012-10-02 08:34:15 PM  

TheManofPA: Maybe this is Roger's swerve this week. He's going to wait until Thursday and re-suspend everyone for Bountygate...this time adding Drew saying he has new evidence he knew (i.e. a random phone call). He'll do it late enough so that appeals can't be heard from the game. Sure it'll get thrown out again, but man Vinny Mac would be proud of that manuever


LOL

And yeah, high five to the schedule people. Drew's former team, Johnny U's last team, that's some nice symmetry.
 
2012-10-02 08:37:26 PM  
Classy letter.
Good on you, Drew.

/Packers fan
 
2012-10-02 08:38:19 PM  
Thanks- Joe Unitas.

P.S. some tickets would be nice

P.P.S. thanks for being the only player on my fantasy league team capable of scoring 20 or more

/damn you, Santonio Holmes. Seriously
 
2012-10-02 08:41:22 PM  
And if he should be stopped, Brady will have the opportunity to pass it later this season. So impossible to break.
 
2012-10-02 08:49:43 PM  
I'm astonished it hasn't been broken before. Doesn't seem that difficult with modern offensive schemes, but there must be something to it if it's stood this long
 
2012-10-02 08:51:36 PM  

robsul82: robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.

FTFM


"Coming up on ESPN, Drew Brees reaches an AMAZING career milestone; we talk to Yankees teammates Alex Rodriquez and Derek Jeter and get their thoughts about this momentous accomplishment".
 
2012-10-02 08:52:38 PM  
Classy letter from Joe Unitas
 
2012-10-02 09:02:33 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I'm astonished it hasn't been broken before. Doesn't seem that difficult with modern offensive schemes, but there must be something to it if it's stood this long


There's another guy who's come as far as only one other player in 52 years, it sucks.

born_yesterday: robsul82: robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.

FTFM

"Coming up on ESPN, Drew Brees reaches an AMAZING career milestone; we talk to Yankees teammates Alex Rodriquez and Derek Jeter and get their thoughts about this momentous accomplishment".


Being a fan of both teams, I can laugh wholeheartedly, lol.
 
2012-10-02 09:05:30 PM  
Drew Brees is set this weekend to break an "unbreakable" NFL record

Most losses to start the season by a "top tier" quarterback?
 
2012-10-02 09:06:07 PM  
I'm sure anyone who thought this was unbreakable didn't realize a day would come when you would no longer be able to make contact with a WR or QB in the NFL without drawing a flag, fine, suspension, or possible execution.

Good for Brees, I guess. I'm sure he'd trade some TDs for a win.
 
2012-10-02 09:08:56 PM  
As a stripper I once knew would say; "that's classy as fark".
 
2012-10-02 09:18:55 PM  

dletter: That is a very nice letter marketing tool from his son, who is hoping to use the Brees connection with his own father to garner some good press and get some people to click the link to the website for his upcoming film.


/Sorry. I am cynical as @#$%.
 
2012-10-02 09:23:24 PM  
FTA: I've been follow your pursuit of the record since last season.

I've been follow.

/Can't get over it.
 
2012-10-02 09:36:14 PM  
IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.
 
2012-10-02 09:39:24 PM  
I see the Unitas apple didn't fall far from the tree.

I've never seen such a classy "good luck breaking my family member's record" letter.
 
2012-10-02 09:45:02 PM  
Fark almost all of you.

There, I said it.

B*tches.

/not trolling, but pissed off
 
2012-10-02 09:49:02 PM  
While td passes are one hell of a lot more common now than they were in Johnny's day the fact is no one else has done it. So hats off to drew brees - a great qb and a good person as well.

That said the curmudgeon in me says I don't understand why people obsess over these statistical oddities that are next to meaningless. I mean it's ultimately insignificant if a qb doesn't get a td pass in a game every now and again. And fact is even after the record is broken I think Unitas' feat will still be more impressive as the game was more low-scoring and run-oriented back in the day. Drew's highest pass attempts per game in a season is ~ 41 - Johnny's is 31.

Conclusion: extremely impressive feat but it's sort of an apples to oranges thing at the end of the day.
 
2012-10-02 09:50:17 PM  

robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on the webpage for weeks, lol.


And Peter King would faint from all the excitement.
 
2012-10-02 09:53:16 PM  
Hope this ends better than the Mark McGwire-Maris family love affair.
 
2012-10-02 09:53:48 PM  

dickfreckle: /not trolling, but pissed off


Why? it's a farking wonder it didn't happen sooner as pass-happy as the nfl has become.
 
2012-10-02 09:57:20 PM  

ChrisDe: Hope this ends better than the Mark McGwire-Maris family love affair.


I feel pretty confident in saying Drew's not on the roids. The birthmark may be, however, I make no promises there.
 
2012-10-02 09:57:46 PM  
Who dat? Who hasn't?
 
2012-10-02 09:57:49 PM  

dickfreckle: Fark almost all of you.

There, I said it.

B*tches.

/not trolling, but pissed off


I apologize. This thread should be about how awesome Unitas' son is, and not my bitterness over the 0-4 start.
 
2012-10-02 10:00:58 PM  

JohnBigBootay: While td passes are one hell of a lot more common now than they were in Johnny's day the fact is no one else has done it.


Yeah no one else has done it...yet. But one of his contemporaries (Brady) is right behind him. QBs didn't throw for 5000 yards in a season every year either, but that's happening too. As you said, the rules now favor offense so much, you can't really compare eras. It's nice, but kind of an obscure and meaningless stat. You think he wouldn't rather throw 0 TD passes and them actually win?

JohnBigBootay: dickfreckle: /not trolling, but pissed off

Why? it's a farking wonder it didn't happen sooner as pass-happy as the nfl has become.


imageshack.us

Don't mind him.

imageshack.us
 
2012-10-02 10:01:35 PM  

finaboy: Who dat? Who hasn't?


ATL. Watch.
 
2012-10-02 10:05:05 PM  

Nobodyn0se: TheManofPA: Maybe this is Roger's swerve this week. He's going to wait until Thursday and re-suspend everyone for Bountygate...this time adding Drew saying he has new evidence he knew (i.e. a random phone call). He'll do it late enough so that appeals can't be heard from the game. Sure it'll get thrown out again, but man Vinny Mac would be proud of that manuever

Uh.... you realize it's a personal streak, so as long as he's not banned for life he would still have the opportunity to break the record on his first game back from suspension, right?


It was a joke post, but on the serious side, I thought it was one of those records where an injury eliminate you from consideration (i.e. a missed game results in no TD)
 
2012-10-02 10:07:04 PM  

grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.


I get your point but Johnny Van Demeer sneers at you from the grave.
 
2012-10-02 10:08:38 PM  

js34603: Yeah no one else has done it...yet. But one of his contemporaries (Brady) is right behind him. QBs didn't throw for 5000 yards in a season every year either, but that's happening too. As you said, the rules now favor offense so much, you can't really compare eras. It's nice, but kind of an obscure and meaningless stat. You think he wouldn't rather throw 0 TD passes and them actually win?


I don't to put forth the wrong message. I think Drew Brees is a helluva guy and a fantastic qb - one of the best of his era.... AND this is sort of a meaningless statistical oddity at the same time. I mean streaks in and of themselves are somewhat meaningless. Who really gives a fark if one qb throws a td pass in 54 straight - or whatever the hell it is - and the other throws a td pass in only 52 of those 54. It's a nice little accolade and fun to talk about but I'd still think unitas doing it in 54 straight was a more difficult virtually meaningless achievement than Brees' doing the same.
 
2012-10-02 10:10:51 PM  
There might have been parts of that letter that were classy, but it read more like a fan-boi stalker love letter. I'm only surprised that it didn't end with the words "Call me!".
 
2012-10-02 10:11:46 PM  

dickfreckle: finaboy: Who dat? Who hasn't?

ATL. Watch.


Hell, if it must be a lost season? 2-14 wouldn't be SO bad, if that be the reason, lol.
 
2012-10-02 10:48:49 PM  

dickfreckle: dickfreckle: Fark almost all of you.

There, I said it.

B*tches.

/not trolling, but pissed off

I apologize. This thread should be about how awesome Unitas' son is, and not my bitterness over the 0-4 start.


Wow, this actually isn't the first time today someone in one of the sports threads completely flew off the handle, but did come back and apologize for it. This has been a strange, angsty-yet-sorryletshugitout day.
 
2012-10-02 11:20:28 PM  

grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.


Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)
 
2012-10-02 11:28:43 PM  
As others have mentioned, rule changes have greatly affected the unbreakableness of this record. Go back to the rule set that defensive backs could play by in the 50s and 60s and this record would still be unbroken (although a lot more WR would be on IR).
 
2012-10-02 11:35:27 PM  
www.pennypinchinmom.com
 
2012-10-02 11:41:55 PM  

roncofooddehydrator: MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


You qualified your list with the word "major" so this might not count, but NOBODY will ever break Johnny Vander Meer's record of consecutive no hitters. Hell, nobody has come close to tying it.
 
2012-10-03 12:06:11 AM  
When you receive a letter like that you know you've been properly lettered.
 
2012-10-03 12:11:27 AM  

TheManofPA: Nobodyn0se: TheManofPA: Maybe this is Roger's swerve this week. He's going to wait until Thursday and re-suspend everyone for Bountygate...this time adding Drew saying he has new evidence he knew (i.e. a random phone call). He'll do it late enough so that appeals can't be heard from the game. Sure it'll get thrown out again, but man Vinny Mac would be proud of that manuever

Uh.... you realize it's a personal streak, so as long as he's not banned for life he would still have the opportunity to break the record on his first game back from suspension, right?

It was a joke post, but on the serious side, I thought it was one of those records where an injury eliminate you from consideration (i.e. a missed game results in no TD)


If he started a game and got injured before he threw a touchdown pass, that would break the streak. If he got injured at practice (or in a game after throwing a TD pass) then the record would wait for him to get well again and start his next game.

Please note: I'm a not yet a doctor of footballology, or any other sports authority. I'm just a fan who thinks he knows stuff.
 
2012-10-03 12:15:49 AM  
Yeah, but he still has that thing on his face.
 
2012-10-03 12:36:10 AM  

ozarkmatt: roncofooddehydrator: MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

You qualified your list with the word "major" so this might not count, but NOBODY will ever break Johnny Vander Meer's record of consecutive no hitters. Hell, nobody has come close to tying it.


I don't know, if Verlander ever gets back to back starts against the Cubs and Astros, that thing is in danger.

As for the list, I could see Wilt's 100 getting broken at some point by someone who just wants to break it. I wouldn't bet on it, but I could see it being that it happens one day. The one that I can't see going down is the 56 games with a hit in a row. Wilt's just needs the perfect day, the 56er needs far too much luck
 
2012-10-03 12:56:47 AM  

TheManofPA: I don't know, if Verlander ever gets back to back starts against the Cubs and Astros, that thing is in danger.


Throw the Mets in as the third start and you might have a point!
 
2012-10-03 01:03:02 AM  

TheManofPA: As for the list, I could see Wilt's 100 getting broken at some point by someone who just wants to break it. I wouldn't bet on it, but I could see it being that it happens one day. The one that I can't see going down is the 56 games with a hit in a row. Wilt's just needs the perfect day, the 56er needs far too much luck


Yeah, I just don't see Wilt's 100 going down... from his account of the game, he was somewhat embarrassed by it when it happened, I don't see a modern athlete wanting to stay out there long enough to do it. Add in a decline in scoring since the days Wilt played and it becomes even more difficult. Kobe hit 81 back in 2006 and that's the closest anyone has come - still 20% back.

The 56 game hit streak could end... if Ichiro was able to break the 82 year old hit record for the season, then there's no reason to believe someone couldn't string a bunch together, though like you said it requires a lot of luck.
 
2012-10-03 01:22:03 AM  
What's the record, going 0-5 on an irreparably tainted team? Is that the record?
 
2012-10-03 01:28:14 AM  

robsul82: robsul82: Too bad it's not Brady or Peyton. We would've had a countdown clock on Peter King's the ESPN webpage for weeks, lol.

FTFM


FTFY. ;)
 
2012-10-03 01:29:28 AM  

Killer Cars: dickfreckle: dickfreckle: Fark almost all of you.

There, I said it.

B*tches.

/not trolling, but pissed off

I apologize. This thread should be about how awesome Unitas' son is, and not my bitterness over the 0-4 start.

Wow, this actually isn't the first time today someone in one of the sports threads completely flew off the handle, but did come back and apologize for it. This has been a strange, angsty-yet-sorryletshugitout day.


Go fark yourself. :)
 
2012-10-03 01:42:39 AM  
Remember kids:

National Basketball Association tailors its rules to protect marketable star players and discourage physical play, rules designed to increase scoring and viewership: "The league is such a joke. Star players get preferential treatment, and nobody plays defense anymore."

National Football League tailors its rules to protect marketable passing quarterbacks and discourage physical play at the receiver position, rules designed to increase scoring and viewership: "Truly, this is the golden age of quarterbacks."
 
2012-10-03 02:37:07 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Remember kids:


The funny thing is, if my understanding is correct, discouraging physical play in the NBA actually brings it closer to basketball's historical no-contact roots, whereas football... well, it was once violent enough to worry Theodore "Preserve Nature so My Grandkids Will Have Something to Kill" Roosevelt.
 
2012-10-03 03:41:01 AM  

dletter: That is a very nice letter from his son.

As far as this being a record comparable to Dimaggio's streak.... I don't buy that, especially in this current era of the QBs and passing game being the primary offensive driver on most teams. Any Top 5 QB should throw at least 1 TD per game.


Agreed, Rules were much different in Unitas' day. I wonder how many QB's could survive with the way things were in the 50's and 60's head slaps ect..
 
2012-10-03 06:49:06 AM  
LOL. So the original front-running, home dome, stat-padding garbage time QB gets to break a record thanks to a home dome, stat-padding garbage time TD. Congrats?
 
2012-10-03 07:06:16 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: LOL. So the original front-running, home dome, stat-padding garbage time QB gets to break a record thanks to a home dome, stat-padding garbage time TD. Congrats?


Sorry? Slight correction. The streak is alive thanks to a garbage time, stat-padding ROAD dome TD, week 8 last year at St. Louis.
 
2012-10-03 07:11:28 AM  
The highlight of the streak:

* 3rd and 8 at STL 8 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass short middle to L.Moore for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 20 31
* J.Kasay extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Drescher, Holder-C.Daniel. 21 31
* J.Kasay kicks onside 10 yards from NO 35 to NO 45. C.Chamberlain (didn't try to advance) to NO 45 for no gain (M.Jenkins).
DRIVE TOTALS: NO 21, STL 31, 15 plays, 74 yards, 2:45 elapsed

St. Louis Rams at 0:06 NOR STL
* 1st and 10 at NO 45 A.Feeley kneels to NO 46 for -1 yards.
* End of Game
 
2012-10-03 07:30:12 AM  
I know that Drew Brees is a nice guy and all, and he got a championship for NO, yadda yadda yadda ...
but with today's rules that basically put defenses on lawn chairs reading 50 Shades of Grey, I could step in right now and break that record in about 5 years.

and that was a classy letter from Mr. U.
 
2012-10-03 08:45:21 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


The single season triples record. No one is ever gonna go for 36 triples in a season, ever again.
 
2012-10-03 08:59:28 AM  

professorkowalski: roncofooddehydrator: MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

The single season triples record. No one is ever gonna go for 36 triples in a season, ever again.


There are several in baseball, I just felt like the batting average one is a bigger deal than other ones like triples. But yeah, noone will ever come close to that.
 
2012-10-03 09:11:04 AM  

TheManofPA: It was a joke post, but on the serious side, I thought it was one of those records where an injury eliminate you from consideration (i.e. a missed game results in no TD)


Nah, but it f*cks you if it happens early in a game (before the Seahawks game, Rodgers' last 0 TD game was the game he left concussed in the first half against Detroit).
 
2012-10-03 09:11:11 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: There are several in baseball, I just felt like the batting average one is a bigger deal than other ones like triples. But yeah, noone will ever come close to that.


In terms of career records, I'd say both Stolen Bases, and Wins will never be broken.
 
2012-10-03 09:18:17 AM  

professorkowalski: In terms of career records, I'd say both Stolen Bases, and Wins will never be broken.


Basically every pitching counting stat except saves and relief appearances is unbreakable now that teams carry 5 starters and 7 relievers. 

I don't think the NFL has too many unbreakable records. Some weird ones might be. Emmitt Smith's 4409 lifetime carries seems pretty safe.
 
2012-10-03 09:20:34 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.
 
2012-10-03 09:22:41 AM  

you have pee hands: professorkowalski: In terms of career records, I'd say both Stolen Bases, and Wins will never be broken.

Basically every pitching counting stat except saves and relief appearances is unbreakable now that teams carry 5 starters and 7 relievers. 

I don't think the NFL has too many unbreakable records. Some weird ones might be. Emmitt Smith's 4409 lifetime carries seems pretty safe.


Cal's consecutive starts may be unbreakable without major advances in sports medicine. Same with Farve's consecutive starts stat - unless QBs get even more rule protection... In which case Farve's will always be the most impressive.
 
2012-10-03 09:23:58 AM  
Randy Moss - most TDs in a rookie season.
Torrey Smith- most consecutive TDs receptions to start a career... (3)
 
2012-10-03 09:31:54 AM  

Mateorocks: NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.


Here's the list of career rushing average for the career. Pretty sure there's a minimum number of games to qualify for a career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_per_g_career. ht m

In this pass happy league, I'm not counting any of Rice's records as unbreakable.
 
2012-10-03 09:38:12 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: Mateorocks: NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.

Here's the list of career rushing average for the career. Pretty sure there's a minimum number of games to qualify for a career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_per_g_career. ht m

In this pass happy league, I'm not counting any of Rice's records as unbreakable.


That's an average of almost 1700 yds per season, to break Jim Browns record.

If someone could do it, more power to em. But we also live in an age where thousand yard seasons are a big deal, and that's only 67 yds a game.
 
2012-10-03 09:38:49 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


It may have been added by someone else, but I would say:

MLB - Nolan Ryan's records for: Strikeouts, walks, and career no hitters
 
2012-10-03 09:52:03 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)


To add another, along with everyone else: Gretzky himself has said he thinks someone will score 200 points in a season again, and he thinks someone will score 90 goals in a season again, but the records he considers most unbreakable are 50 goals in 39 games and 51 consecutive game point scoring streak.

/fun fact: if Gretzky didn't play a single game for the rest of the season in 83-84 after his point scoring streak ended, he still would have won the scoring title by 22 points.
 
2012-10-03 09:52:11 AM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

It may have been added by someone else, but I would say:

MLB - Nolan Ryan's records for: Strikeouts, walks, and career no hitters


MLB... the Official pitching wins record of 511 by Cy Young. But, much of baseball records really is limiting comparing people to their era's (or at least within 1-2 era's of you) vs. trying to compare people to Ty Cobb and Cy Young, which is just not even viable.
 
2012-10-03 10:01:44 AM  

roncofooddehydrator: Mateorocks: NFL - Brown's record can certainly be broken, depending on how many games qualify as a "career"

The real unbreakable records all belong to Jerry Rice.

Here's the list of career rushing average for the career. Pretty sure there's a minimum number of games to qualify for a career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_per_g_career. ht m

In this pass happy league, I'm not counting any of Rice's records as unbreakable.


If you think anyone is ever going to catch Rice at 22,895 receiving yards, I want what you're smoking. Larry Fitzgerald is at 9,860 yards and he's already been in the league 8 years. Megatron is much farther back than that.

Yeah, passing is way up...but you'd need to have back-to-back HOF QBs throwing to you most of your career.
 
2012-10-03 10:06:12 AM  

Jubeebee: but the records he considers most unbreakable are 50 goals in 39 games and 51 consecutive game point scoring streak.


I don't think anyone else will be getting 9 MVPs in 10 years or 8 consecutive MVPs, either.

/no record is unbreakable given an infinite amount of time. I'm sure all the football ones will be broken as we switch the rules back and forth
 
2012-10-03 10:12:53 AM  

Jubeebee: roncofooddehydrator: grinding_journalist: IMO, the only "unbreakable" records in sports are the ones that are essentially prohibited by convention and the style of the game, most specifically in baseball; pitchers throwing 30 CGs in a season, A player/owner/manager combo, etc. Stuff that you can't do because you're essentially not allowed to.

Here's the major ones I think that are "unbreakable" unless rules somehow change:

NFL - average rushing yards/game career (Jim Brown: 104.3 yds)
NHL - almost any scoring record by Gretzky (goals in a season: 92, points in a season: 215, to pick two)
NBA - most points by a single player in a game (Wilt Chamberlain: 100 points)
MLB - any batting average record (single season: Hugh Duffy .4397, career: Ty Cobb .3664)

To add another, along with everyone else: Gretzky himself has said he thinks someone will score 200 points in a season again, and he thinks someone will score 90 goals in a season again, but the records he considers most unbreakable are 50 goals in 39 games and 51 consecutive game point scoring streak.

/fun fact: if Gretzky didn't play a single game for the rest of the season in 83-84 after his point scoring streak ended, he still would have won the scoring title by 22 points.


If John Tortorella has his way, no one will ever score even a 100 points in a a season.

/The ludicrous ways his team goes about blocking shots needs to be put to an end.
 
2012-10-03 10:53:10 AM  

professorkowalski: If John Tortorella

Basketball Lawyer has his way, no one will ever score even a 100 points in a a season.

FTFY 

/Farking lockout
 
2012-10-03 11:05:38 AM  

Nobodyn0se: TheManofPA: Nobodyn0se: TheManofPA: ***snip***

It was a joke post, but on the serious side, I thought it was one of those records where an injury eliminate you from consideration (i.e. a missed game results in no TD)

If he started a game and got injured before he threw a touchdown pass, that would break the streak. If he got injured at practice (or in a game after throwing a TD pass) then the record would wait for him to get well again and start his next game.

Please note: I'm a not yet a doctor of footballology, or any other sports authority. I'm just a fan who thinks he knows stuff.


There are separate records for Consecutive Games and Consecutive Uninterrupted Games :3/4 of the way down the list. HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED is the Consecutive Uninterrupted Games leader at 36.
 
2012-10-03 11:10:13 AM  

roc6783: There are separate records for Consecutive Games and Consecutive Uninterrupted Games :3/4 of the way down the list. HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED is the Consecutive Uninterrupted Games leader at 36.


Well, kinda. Brees and Brady are tied with him apparently right now.
 
2012-10-03 11:19:26 AM  

IAmRight: roc6783: There are separate records for Consecutive Games and Consecutive Uninterrupted Games :3/4 of the way down the list. HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED is the Consecutive Uninterrupted Games leader at 36.

Well, kinda. Brees and Brady are tied with him apparently right now.


HAHA, I actually saw the Brett and just stopped reading. My eyes were following my heart, not my head.

//Don't actually hate Brent Faver.
 
2012-10-03 02:48:21 PM  

robsul82: dickfreckle: finaboy: Who dat? Who hasn't?

ATL. Watch.

Hell, if it must be a lost season? 2-14 wouldn't be SO bad, if that be the reason, lol.


When Tampa went to the Super Bowl we swept them. And you know how I feel about the Falcons. 2-14 sounds just about right to me, provided both wins were delivered to Atlanta. Christ I hate the Falcons.

/predicted 10-6, so it could still happen
 
2012-10-03 02:53:42 PM  

dickfreckle: /predicted 10-6, so it could still happen


Sigh...yeah I know.

/things are bad when you reply to your own posts
 
2012-10-03 03:39:10 PM  
Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up
 
2012-10-03 04:22:56 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up


You should come into one of the AL MVP threads and start arguing for Miguel Cabrera. We need more people like you there.
 
2012-10-03 05:39:42 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up


You are kidding, right?

If Unitas played with today's rules, everyone else would be fighting for "second best QB of all time".
 
2012-10-04 09:22:41 AM  

davidphogan: So either he sets the record against the Chargers, or his streak gets broken by them. That seems appropriate.


As a Chargers fan from the 1980's, I endorse this sentiment. All too often ex-Chargers come back and annihilate the team.

Sorry Drew, I hope they shut you out this week, but if not, stay classy, San Diego.
 
2012-10-04 10:05:27 AM  

Ro_thunder: davidphogan: So either he sets the record against the Chargers, or his streak gets broken by them. That seems appropriate.

As a Chargers fan from the 1980's, I endorse this sentiment. All too often ex-Chargers come back and annihilate the team.

Sorry Drew, I hope they shut you out this week, but if not, stay classy, San Diego Whale Vagina.


Agree to disagree.
 
2012-10-05 09:42:32 AM  

Broktun: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Brees is the best QB in history. Yes, I believe this. Yes, I think if he played for the Pats, New England would have won more Super Bowls than they have under Brady.

If I had to pick any QB to complete a given pass, I'd pick him every single time.

/eternally pissed that the Bears didn't pick him up

You are kidding, right?

If Unitas played with today's rules, everyone else would be fighting for "second best QB of all time".


If Sammy Baugh played with today's rules, EVERYONE would be fighting for "second best FOOTBALL PLAYER" of all time.

/Dude was the OG of football. And I love me some Johnny U, but Slingin' Sammy was better. on BOTH sides of the ball.
 
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