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(ABC)   A Pennsylvania man is found guilty of poaching Game Warden. Bonus: His lawyer is using the tried and true "he was too drunk to form the intent to kill" defense strategy   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 44
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2012-10-02 02:37:49 PM
The passenger testified that a shootout began after Johnson vowed he wouldn't go back to prison

Guess again.
 
2012-10-02 03:51:23 PM

tallguywithglasseson: The passenger testified that a shootout began after Johnson vowed he wouldn't go back to prison

Guess again.


Who *Doesn't* say this when they're a felon or has warrants against them and

Guess what.....
 
2012-10-02 03:57:12 PM
So, did he poach the Game Warden?
 
2012-10-02 03:57:27 PM
he only had 12 beers. over the course of a day. I don't think that's drunk enough
 
2012-10-02 03:57:52 PM
Oddly enough, the longer I stay sober the more filled with an intent to kill I get.
 
2012-10-02 03:57:53 PM
Next they'll decide life in prison vs death penalty. Whichever, this perp's value to society is now less than zero.
 
2012-10-02 03:58:26 PM
 
2012-10-02 03:58:58 PM

ronaprhys: So, did he poach the Game Warden?


Actually, Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.
 
2012-10-02 03:59:33 PM

LesterB: Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.


A mere 32 seconds, you bastard!
 
2012-10-02 03:59:38 PM
Hopefully he gets the death penalty that he deserves.
 
2012-10-02 04:02:21 PM

pute kisses like a man: he only had 12 beers. over the course of a day. I don't think that's drunk enough


I don't know... I once took one for the team and ended up sleeping with the rotund unattractive friend. I had only had about 9 drinks that day. She stalked me for six months. If I had it to do over again, I'd have three more drinks, shoot her instead and try to convince the jury I mistook her for a charging moose.
 
2012-10-02 04:03:22 PM
I prefer my game wardens over-easy.
 
2012-10-02 04:08:34 PM
Headline is wrong. Game Wardens are always in season.

At least they should be.

/worse incarnation of cops by far
 
2012-10-02 04:13:26 PM
someone should have warned him about Amos Moses.
 
2012-10-02 04:16:28 PM

justtray: Hopefully he gets the death penalty that he deserves.


Yeah. They should put out a pile of corn, and when he goes for it... BLAM!
 
2012-10-02 04:18:23 PM
You just stand there, looking cute; and when something moves, you shoot!
 
2012-10-02 04:27:37 PM
I once raised cocaine intoxication as a defense.

The jury acquitted my client of first degree agreeing that he couldn't develop premeditation, but found that he committed a knowing killing, which is second degree murder.

The judge was pissed... REAL PISSED. Sentenced my client to the max 25 years and then stacked 5 more on top of that for a theft that was committed at the same time.
 
2012-10-02 04:28:16 PM

tallguywithglasseson: The passenger testified that a shootout began after Johnson vowed he wouldn't go back to prison

Guess again.


Not his fault the Game Warden is a lousy shot.
 
2012-10-02 04:29:38 PM
Giving it the ol' college girl try, I see.
 
2012-10-02 04:30:12 PM
I've never wanted to kill anyone while drunk, so this is completely plausible.
 
2012-10-02 04:44:11 PM

LesterB: Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.


Came for this; leaving satisfied
 
2012-10-02 04:46:22 PM
I need to know what kind of beers they were before conceding that 12 could get someone really drunk
 
2012-10-02 04:57:06 PM
That's odd, I do so of my best killing when drunk.....while playing urban terror 4.1 that is.
 
2012-10-02 05:05:15 PM
Then can a drunk, sleeping it off in the back seat of his or her car claim that he or she was too drunk to form the intent to drive while intoxicated?
 
2012-10-02 05:24:50 PM

you are a puppet: I need to know what kind of beers they were before conceding that 12 could get someone really drunk


40's.
 
2012-10-02 05:27:21 PM

dryknife: you are a puppet: I need to know what kind of beers they were before conceding that 12 could get someone really drunk

40's.


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Nobody can drink 12 40s!
 
2012-10-02 05:29:56 PM

you are a puppet: I need to know what kind of beers they were before conceding that 12 could get someone really drunk


Maybe he was drinking bees.
 
2012-10-02 05:36:18 PM
A poacher being scum? Never woulda guess.
 
2012-10-02 05:37:26 PM

LordJiro: A poacher being scum? Never woulda guess.


A Farker posting drunk? Never woulda guessed.
 
2012-10-02 05:38:14 PM

ronaprhys: So, did he poach the Game Warden?


Of course not, nobody has a pot that big.
 
2012-10-02 05:40:02 PM

dittybopper: ronaprhys: So, did he poach the Game Warden?

Actually, Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.


Damned overachievers.
 
2012-10-02 05:44:41 PM

you are a puppet: dryknife: you are a puppet: I need to know what kind of beers they were before conceding that 12 could get someone really drunk

40's.

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Nobody can drink 12 40s!


My girl says she can drink twelve forties, she can drink twelve forties.

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2012-10-02 06:11:14 PM

LesterB: Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.


What was his prior offense? Poisoning pigeons in the park?
 
2012-10-02 06:16:24 PM
But they had argued for third-degree murder, saying Johnson was too drunk to form the intent to kill.

Fark you. Seriously, fark you. It's getting to the point that first-degree murder can only be proven if the murderer filled out the appropriate "Intent to Commit First Degree Murder" form, had it stamped and filed at the state's attorney office, along with the number of his or her current Murderer's Permit. Anything else, and well, "the murderer couldn't have possible have intended to exchange gunfire 25 times in an attempt to prevent himself or herself from going back to prison." Seriously, there are so many ersatz "defenses" against being charged with capital murder -

The attorney that argued this as a valid defense should be paraded outside the courtroom in shame, because clearly, he's just a friggin' mouthpiece for money and has no actual respect for the law except as some kind of game.
 
2012-10-02 06:18:05 PM

FormlessOne: But they had argued for third-degree murder, saying Johnson was too drunk to form the intent to kill.

Fark you. Seriously, fark you. It's getting to the point that first-degree murder can only be proven if the murderer filled out the appropriate "Intent to Commit First Degree Murder" form, had it stamped and filed at the state's attorney office, along with the number of his or her current Murderer's Permit. Anything else, and well, "the murderer couldn't have possibly intended to exchange gunfire 25 times in an attempt to prevent himself or herself from going back to prison." Seriously, there are so many ersatz "defenses" against being charged with first degree murder - flashbacks, sugar rushes, mommy issues, daddy issues, roid rage - that it's a friggin' joke listening to defense attorneys at this point.

The attorney that argued this as a valid defense should be paraded outside the courtroom in shame, because clearly, he's just a friggin' mouthpiece for money and has no actual respect for the law except as some kind of game.


Feh. Damned mouse.
 
2012-10-02 06:58:35 PM

FormlessOne: But they had argued for third-degree murder, saying Johnson was too drunk to form the intent to kill.

Fark you. Seriously, fark you. It's getting to the point that first-degree murder can only be proven if the murderer filled out the appropriate "Intent to Commit First Degree Murder" form, had it stamped and filed at the state's attorney office, along with the number of his or her current Murderer's Permit. Anything else, and well, "the murderer couldn't have possible have intended to exchange gunfire 25 times in an attempt to prevent himself or herself from going back to prison." Seriously, there are so many ersatz "defenses" against being charged with capital murder -

The attorney that argued this as a valid defense should be paraded outside the courtroom in shame, because clearly, he's just a friggin' mouthpiece for money and has no actual respect for the law except as some kind of game.


Uh, intoxication has ALWAYS been a valid defense as an inability to form the intent to kill. In fact, it used to be the only defense that would take murder from first degree to voluntary manslaughter.

I'm sorry if you don't like it, but being too drunk to form intent is one of those facts that a jury is entitled to consider in determining if a defendant committed murder or not.
 
2012-10-02 06:59:49 PM
So how much is the tag for Wild Game Warden?
 
2012-10-02 07:02:13 PM
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"I never thought of poaching; I usually just roast or deep fry"
 
2012-10-02 09:32:08 PM

Gyrfalcon: Uh, intoxication has ALWAYS been a valid defense as an inability to form the intent to kill. In fact, it used to be the only defense that would take murder from first degree to voluntary manslaughter.

I'm sorry if you don't like it, but being too drunk to form intent is one of those facts that a jury is entitled to consider in determining if a defendant committed murder or not.


FormlessOne sounds like the type who is still mad that even the Correspondence Law schools would not admit him!
 
2012-10-02 10:27:51 PM

dryknife: My girl says she can drink twelve forties, she can drink twelve forties.


she sure looks like she's done it quite a few too many times in her life, too... :|

"the law was very firm, it took away my perm-it
it's the worst punishment i ever endured
it turns out there was a reason
cows were out of season,
and one of the hunters wasn't insured"
 
2012-10-02 11:09:32 PM

Honest Bender: Then can a drunk, sleeping it off in the back seat of his or her car claim that he or she was too drunk to form the intent to drive while intoxicated?


No. DUI doesn't have an intent element. You just need to be (1) intox'd; and (2) in control of a vehicle (note that control can = possession of keys, but the vehicle not running). That's many states, anyway.
 
2012-10-03 01:12:14 AM
This happened within a couple miles of home. Very sad and the community is shaken. If a public stoning was an option, the jury would not deliberate long.
 
2012-10-03 02:19:00 AM

upndn: This happened within a couple miles of home. Very sad and the community is shaken. If a public stoning was an option, the jury would not deliberate long.


Same here. Several years ago, this scumbag tried to break in to where I was working. Couldn't get in and went to another place and broke in there as well. Stole some firearms..I hope he gets the needle for what he did to Grove.
 
2012-10-03 06:39:31 AM
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