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2012-10-02 04:39:21 PM

star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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So Obama's trying to create a better world, while Romney creates a fatter world.
 
2012-10-02 04:39:25 PM
melaniekillingervowell.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-02 04:39:31 PM
There is an idea of a Mitt Romney, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real Mitt, only an entity, something illusory, and though he can hide his cold gaze and you can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense your lifestyles are probably comparable: He simply is not there.

It is hard for him to make sense on any given level. He is fabricated, an aberration. He is a noncontingent human being. His personality is sketchy and unformed, his heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. His conscience, his pity, his hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All he has in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem he has caused and his utter indifference toward it, he has now surpassed. He still, though, holds on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet he is blameless.

His pain is constant and sharp and he does not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, he wants his pain to be inflicted on others. He wants no one to escape. But even after admitting this-and he has countless times, in just about every act he's committed-and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. He gains no deeper knowledge about himself, no new understanding can be extracted from his telling.
 
2012-10-02 04:40:56 PM

Rwa2play: theorellior: ManRay: Put Gary Johnson up there for some real contrast.

You'll have all the Serious People clutching their pearls and calling for smelling salts if you did that.

All the while Obama will just put on a pair of shades, lie down on a beach chair next to his podium, pour himself a nice smooth shot of whiskey, and enjoy the show.


Obama is always the coolest cat in the room, isn't he?

In fact, I think we always elect the "coolest cat" of the two, don't we?

Let's see:

Obama versus "Old guy who yells at cloud" McCain. Bush was never that cool, mainly because his partying days were over and he was at the "dry drunk" stage of his life, but his opponents were Al "Downer" Gore and John "Parasailing" Kerry. Clinton versus, well, anybody-no contest. Bush Sr. only won the first time because Dukakis was always the goofiest guy in the room. And Reagan was a freaking movie star.
 
2012-10-02 04:43:03 PM

coeyagi: ManRay: Put Gary Johnson up there for some real contrast.

Sigh. You mean that whining f*ck who thinks there's a monopoly of the political parties? Unhindered free market, Gary, isn't that what you want you dumb f*ck?



Not a monopoly, but certainly stifling competition. The Debate Commission wants a 15% polling number from a candidate in 5 polls. But they will not say what polls they look at. And most don't even have anyone but the 2 major candidates on them. It's a catch-22.

I have no illusions that the LP candidate will win anything anytime soon, but having a differing view from the two guys arguing over how much each one is going to increase Medicare would be nice.
 
2012-10-02 04:45:16 PM
I have news.
It's not a debate unless there is argument and refutation of specific points through rebuttals.
What some of you will see tomorrow will not be "debate."
It will be a kabuki dance designed to make you believe you have a choice.
 
2012-10-02 04:45:18 PM

Liu Ni Gai: There is an idea of a Mitt Romney, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real Mitt, only an entity, something illusory, and though he can hide his cold gaze and you can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense your lifestyles are probably comparable: He simply is not there.

It is hard for him to make sense on any given level. He is fabricated, an aberration. He is a noncontingent human being. His personality is sketchy and unformed, his heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. His conscience, his pity, his hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All he has in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem he has caused and his utter indifference toward it, he has now surpassed. He still, though, holds on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet he is blameless.

His pain is constant and sharp and he does not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, he wants his pain to be inflicted on others. He wants no one to escape. But even after admitting this-and he has countless times, in just about every act he's committed-and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. He gains no deeper knowledge about himself, no new understanding can be extracted from his telling.


Abandon all hope ye who enter here. Indeed.
 
2012-10-02 04:46:38 PM

ManRay: coeyagi: ManRay: Put Gary Johnson up there for some real contrast.

Sigh. You mean that whining f*ck who thinks there's a monopoly of the political parties? Unhindered free market, Gary, isn't that what you want you dumb f*ck?


Not a monopoly, but certainly stifling competition. The Debate Commission wants a 15% polling number from a candidate in 5 polls. But they will not say what polls they look at. And most don't even have anyone but the 2 major candidates on them. It's a catch-22.

I have no illusions that the LP candidate will win anything anytime soon, but having a differing view from the two guys arguing over how much each one is going to increase Medicare would be nice.


I agree, cut ALL Medicare and let the poor and old die. It will be a new age.
 
2012-10-02 04:47:30 PM

star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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I had to look that up.....goddammitsomuch, that WOULD be Ottawa County, Michigan. I just moved away from there, and I'm not surprised. The people there are super nice but SUPER derpy.
 
2012-10-02 04:47:59 PM
Personally, I think Romney has been practicing for thus long enough that he'll do a reasonably mediocre job. Won't change his odds of winning, though
 
2012-10-02 04:48:12 PM

InspectorZero: So, Gary Johnson was invited?


BURN on all my old college friends who think voting for a third-party candidate is making a statement,
 
2012-10-02 04:48:31 PM

Blue_Blazer: ManRay: coeyagi: ManRay: Put Gary Johnson up there for some real contrast.

Sigh. You mean that whining f*ck who thinks there's a monopoly of the political parties? Unhindered free market, Gary, isn't that what you want you dumb f*ck?


Not a monopoly, but certainly stifling competition. The Debate Commission wants a 15% polling number from a candidate in 5 polls. But they will not say what polls they look at. And most don't even have anyone but the 2 major candidates on them. It's a catch-22.

I have no illusions that the LP candidate will win anything anytime soon, but having a differing view from the two guys arguing over how much each one is going to increase Medicare would be nice.

I agree, cut ALL Medicare and let the poor and old die. It will be a new age.


This plus death panels solves the social security problem too.
 
2012-10-02 04:48:55 PM

ManRay: coeyagi: ManRay: Put Gary Johnson up there for some real contrast.

Sigh. You mean that whining f*ck who thinks there's a monopoly of the political parties? Unhindered free market, Gary, isn't that what you want you dumb f*ck?


Not a monopoly, but certainly stifling competition. The Debate Commission wants a 15% polling number from a candidate in 5 polls. But they will not say what polls they look at. And most don't even have anyone but the 2 major candidates on them. It's a catch-22.

I have no illusions that the LP candidate will win anything anytime soon, but having a differing view from the two guys arguing over how much each one is going to increase Medicare would be nice.


I just don't get this point of view. Third party candidates can say whatever they want to say because they have no shot of winning and even if we lived in an alternate universe where they would win they have no support in Congress to get of their big ticket items passed.

Third parties always pride themselves on grassroots support but I haven't seen any of them win a majority in a state congress and pass laws inline with their rhetoric. Additionally, the current "popular" third party is full of politicians that have held seats as Republicans and even Ron Paul has voted 100% with the GOP in 2012.

In my opinion third parties would be better off to concentrate on making a state a model for their ideas. The fact that they can't even get one state out of 50 to buy into their ideology speaks volumes as to why they should not be in a national debate.
 
2012-10-02 04:50:01 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: I have news.
It's not a debate unless there is argument and refutation of specific points through rebuttals.
What some of you will see tomorrow will not be "debate."
It will be a kabuki dance designed to make you believe you have a choice.


Pretty much. It's mostly just trading talking points, regardless of the question. However, there are two things to look for in the debates:
1) How each person reacts to the other person talking. Sighing or rolling your eyes during a debate doesn't go over well. And there's always the chance that Mitt loses it at some point during a debate.

2) The rebuttals. The candidates know the questions ahead of time, but not necessarily all of their opponents responses. It will be interesting to see how they react on the fly.
 
2012-10-02 04:51:27 PM

star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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Ah, West Michigan... They have nice beaches and fantastic breweries so that helps balance out all the derp.
 
2012-10-02 04:53:02 PM

ddam: In my opinion third parties would be better off to concentrate on making a state a model for their ideas. The fact that they can't even get one state out of 50 to buy into their ideology speaks volumes as to why they should not be in a national debate.


Free State Project
 
2012-10-02 04:53:29 PM
"A presidential campaign, though, is different. At some point you have to say what you really believe."

If only that were true. As I recall Bush Jr. spoke quite a bit about not believing in "nation building." He said nothing about "believing in invading Iraq, casting every event as a reason to invade Iraq, and then lying through his teeth to trick the country into invading Iraq."
 
2012-10-02 04:54:51 PM

ManRay: Free State Project


There's only one Free State, and it ain't New Hampshire.
 
2012-10-02 04:55:19 PM

HMS_Blinkin: star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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I had to look that up.....goddammitsomuch, that WOULD be Ottawa County, Michigan. I just moved away from there, and I'm not surprised. The people there are super nice but SUPER derpy.


My mom and step-dad live near Fletcher's Pond in Alpena County. The people in that area aren't even nice to make up for the derp.
 
2012-10-02 04:57:06 PM

Rwa2play: All the while Obama will just put on a pair of shades, lie down on a beach chair next to his podium, pour himself a nice smooth shot of whiskey, and enjoy the show.


I could see Obama shifting gears and debating Gary Johnson. I could see Gary Johnson debating Obama. Mitt Romney would rather run through downtown SLC wearing nothing but a pride ribbon than debate Johnson.
 
2012-10-02 05:02:18 PM

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I have never seen a candidate whose
flip flops offended me to the depths
Romney's flip flops offend me.

These aren't just flip flops of 'well, if you look at it a certain way',
or flip flops of 'i had more information'
or 'it took a lot of thought to get here'.

These are textbook, transparent
attempts at pandering. He is sooo
proud of his term as governor of Masshole,
but he can't run on that....
he can't wait to get over the hump
of the election and then pretend he never
played any of the flip flop games
he played during this primary period.

But by then, it will be too late.
And stupid ass evangelicals will
try to find a way to blame
Democrats
for electing this .. this .. RINO
CEO-INO
American-INO
Human-INO
 
2012-10-02 05:02:28 PM

swahnhennessy: ManRay: Free State Project

There's only one Free State, and it ain't New Hampshire.


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-10-02 05:02:42 PM

theorellior: Rwa2play: All the while Obama will just put on a pair of shades, lie down on a beach chair next to his podium, pour himself a nice smooth shot of whiskey, and enjoy the show.

I could see Obama shifting gears and debating Gary Johnson. I could see Gary Johnson debating Obama. Mitt Romney would rather run through downtown SLC wearing nothing but a pride ribbon than debate Johnson.


This.
 
2012-10-02 05:04:19 PM
LETS - GO - BAMA (dun dun dundundun) LETS - GO - BAMA (dun dun dundundun)

This is going to be like watching an Ewok fight the Rancor.
 
2012-10-02 05:06:57 PM
y'all being disingenuous

cdn2.findthebest.com
 
2012-10-02 05:10:18 PM
Any political party that would let the economy and the country wither and die just because of "uncertainty" deserves to have a knife put in its neck and twisted.
 
2012-10-02 05:11:58 PM

UberDave: [s16.postimage.org image 275x183]


Beat me to it.
 
2012-10-02 05:13:04 PM
Incredible headline, subby

/clap
 
2012-10-02 05:40:08 PM

jst3p: [melaniekillingervowell.files.wordpress.com image 795x696]


Stealing that. *Yoink!*
 
2012-10-02 05:44:48 PM

Desquamation: star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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Ah, West Michigan... They have nice beaches and fantastic breweries so that helps balance out all the derp.


I'm so happy to be in Kalamazoo, an island of reason in a sea of derp.
 
2012-10-02 05:47:08 PM

NeoCortex42: 2) The rebuttals. The candidates know the questions ahead of time, but not necessarily all of their opponents responses. It will be interesting to see how they react on the fly.


I'm going to a debate watching party... seriously. Got an email from the Obama campaign with the location of a pub a few miles from me. I RSVPd and look forward to the cozy womb of the echo chamber.
 
2012-10-02 05:47:25 PM

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I've owned shares in Microsoft at one time. Ergo, I singlehandedly helped Bill Gates dominate the computer market. F*CK ALL Y'ALL. ROMNEY/CASH 2012! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2012-10-02 05:51:13 PM

IggyFan: Desquamation: star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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Ah, West Michigan... They have nice beaches and fantastic breweries so that helps balance out all the derp.

I'm so happy to be in Kalamazoo, an island of reason in a sea of derp.


I blame K college and Bell's.
 
2012-10-02 05:53:56 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: star_topology: Posted in the wrong thread earlier...

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I've owned shares in Microsoft at one time. Ergo, I singlehandedly helped Bill Gates dominate the computer market. F*CK ALL Y'ALL. ROMNEY/CASH 2012! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I almost said that word for word in my response to the chain e-mail, and what do I get back?

"It's not about the products, it's about the jobs! Bankrupt companies don't employ anyone..."

/facepalm
 
2012-10-02 06:03:34 PM

star_topology: Bankrupt companies don't employ anyone


Oh sweet Jesus...my brain hurts now
 
2012-10-02 06:23:25 PM

Liu Ni Gai: There is an idea of a Mitt Romney, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real Mitt, only an entity, something illusory, and though he can hide his cold gaze and you can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense your lifestyles are probably comparable: He simply is not there.

It is hard for him to make sense on any given level. He is fabricated, an aberration. He is a noncontingent human being. His personality is sketchy and unformed, his heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. His conscience, his pity, his hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All he has in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem he has caused and his utter indifference toward it, he has now surpassed. He still, though, holds on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet he is blameless.

His pain is constant and sharp and he does not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, he wants his pain to be inflicted on others. He wants no one to escape. But even after admitting this-and he has countless times, in just about every act he's committed-and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. He gains no deeper knowledge about himself, no new understanding can be extracted from his telling.


Well done, well done.
 
2012-10-02 06:32:46 PM
Like I've said before, the best campaign strategy for Obama at this time is to simply stay quiet, step back, and hand Romney the shovel. It'll be interesting to watch Obama take Romney apart, because he's pandered so many times, in so many ways, to so many different groups of people that it's really impossible to tell what Romney's actual stance is on anything. Every time Romney opens his mouth to claim an opinion or belief, Obama just has to read a Romney quote from, say, two weeks ago, in which he firmly espoused his support for a diametrically opposed opinion or belief. Once the quote's read aloud, Obama then just has to say, "which is it?"

Repeat that for pretty much every question they're going to be asked, and you can stick a fork in Romney and call his political career done. He's simply lied to too many people to be credible or even believeable.
 
2012-10-02 06:36:22 PM

ManRay: ddam: In my opinion third parties would be better off to concentrate on making a state a model for their ideas. The fact that they can't even get one state out of 50 to buy into their ideology speaks volumes as to why they should not be in a national debate.

Free State Project


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including cannibalism and butt chugging
 
2012-10-02 06:38:23 PM
I don't want to alarm you libtards, well actually I do, but it sounds like obummer is going to have his race card returned to him tonight. 

pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-02 06:43:11 PM

Brick-House: I don't want to alarm you libtards, well actually I do, but it sounds like obummer is going to have his race card returned to him tonight. 

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When in doubt eating paste, get Freeper infographics.
 
2012-10-02 06:47:12 PM

Brick-House: I don't want to alarm you libtards, well actually I do, but it sounds like obummer is going to have his race card returned to him tonight. 

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The alarming thought is that you might actually be serious, instead of just another troll.
 
2012-10-02 06:57:54 PM
OBAMA DECLARES HOW POOR PEOPLE: 'Need help with basic skills, how to shop, how to show up for work on time, how to wear the right clothes, how to act appropriately in an office'...
 
2012-10-02 06:59:48 PM
Tell you what, why dont you all go to drudge and begin to worry now rather than waiting till tonight.
 
2012-10-02 07:14:33 PM

Brick-House: Tell you what, why dont you all go to drudge and begin to worry now rather than waiting till tonight.


You do realize the debate is tomorrow, not tonight, right? I mean it even says that in the headline, "Tomorrow's debate..." Is there something else we need to worry about tonight in regards to the debate? I mean if you can't get your days right, how can I possibly take your post to heart and get all riled up and indignant? How can I possibly be mad at you and your pathetic attempts to derail this thread if you can't even tell the date, something we all learned in farking Kindergarten?

Look, spitting in the face of liberals is hard, I get it. You have to ignore facts, reality, even common sense. You just have to accept the steaming pile the Right dumps on your lap, lift it up with bare hands, and shout to the world "This is a brick of gold!" But it's not. It's a steaming pile of shiat, the only gold there is the kernels of corn. So I get the cognitive dissonance you have to force into your already labored mental state...

But getting the dates wrong? Man... Nobodies gonna take you seriously.
 
2012-10-02 07:25:01 PM

Will-Mun: Brick-House: Tell you what, why dont you all go to drudge and begin to worry now rather than waiting till tonight.

You do realize the debate is tomorrow, not tonight, right? I mean it even says that in the headline, "Tomorrow's debate..." Is there something else we need to worry about tonight in regards to the debate? I mean if you can't get your days right, how can I possibly take your post to heart and get all riled up and indignant? How can I possibly be mad at you and your pathetic attempts to derail this thread if you can't even tell the date, something we all learned in farking Kindergarten?

Look, spitting in the face of liberals is hard, I get it. You have to ignore facts, reality, even common sense. You just have to accept the steaming pile the Right dumps on your lap, lift it up with bare hands, and shout to the world "This is a brick of gold!" But it's not. It's a steaming pile of shiat, the only gold there is the kernels of corn. So I get the cognitive dissonance you have to force into your already labored mental state...

But getting the dates wrong? Man... Nobodies gonna take you seriously.


Debates tomorrow... Yeah yeah yeah, tonight we get his racist speech from 2008.
 
2012-10-02 07:25:25 PM
 
2012-10-02 07:30:05 PM

Brick-House: OBAMA DECLARES HOW POOR PEOPLE: 'Need help with basic skills, how to shop, how to show up for work on time, how to wear the right clothes, how to act appropriately in an office'...


Instead of pissing on the weak and powerless below you, why don't you grow a pair, and go after those above you who are screwing you? Seriously - at least try to be a man.
 
2012-10-02 07:38:18 PM

jso2897: Brick-House: OBAMA DECLARES HOW POOR PEOPLE: 'Need help with basic skills, how to shop, how to show up for work on time, how to wear the right clothes, how to act appropriately in an office'...

Instead of pissing on the weak and powerless below you, why don't you grow a pair, and go after those above you who are screwing you? Seriously - at least try to be a man.


I'm not picking on anyone but you brain dead libtards, but I have to admit, you all do make it easy. Here's another tid-bit of what's coming.

DAILY CALLER: 'For nearly 40 minutes, using an accent he never adopts in public, Obama describes a racist, zero-sum society, in which the white majority profits by exploiting black America'... Developing tonight...

But of course he's prez of all Americans. BS of course, but sounds good.
 
2012-10-02 07:53:38 PM

Brick-House: using an accent he never adopts in public


...Irish?

No, Black Irish.
 
2012-10-02 08:10:08 PM

Brick-House:
Debates tomorrow... Yeah yeah yeah, tonight we get his racist speech from 2008.


Oh, well my deepest apologies then. I was mistaken in thinking you were a raving lunatic for not being able to count the days... Instead it seems you are a raving lunatic for being unable to articulate your god damn point.

You could have explained, quite clearly, how a video from 2008 will be released today in which Obama talks about race relations. Instead you decided to shoot off at the mouth with your "cute" little freeper race card image, post an apparent quote from this 2008 speech without any sort of context, and failed to link all of this in any way shape or form to the current topic at hand, that being the upcoming debates.

Debates tomorrow... Yeah yeah yeah

Don't give me that shiat, don't dismiss the debate off hand, it's the entire reason this thread exists.

Brick-House: Tell you what, why dont you all go to drudge and begin to worry now rather than waiting till tonight.


Good lord no. I glanced over the site just now to finally gleam the source of your insanity. A five year old could put a site together better than that slapdashed mess.
 
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