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(The Weekly Standard)   Trust in President Obama's ability to handle International Affairs plummets among Independents, Thinkers   (weeklystandard.com) divider line 74
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2012-10-02 12:19:26 PM  
Bullsh*t.
 
2012-10-02 12:22:03 PM  
 
2012-10-02 12:26:30 PM  
 
2012-10-02 12:27:41 PM  
romney and ryan: zero foreign policy and/or military experience. *clinton voice* ZEE-ROH.
 
2012-10-02 12:30:21 PM  

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Biased facts and figures. This goes against everything I have ever seen on Fox & Friends and is therefore a lie.
 
2012-10-02 12:37:28 PM  
Poll respondents base their belief that Romney is better suited to handle international affairs on what? His stellar job of insulting Great Britain? His insults about Palestinian culture being responsible for shiatty economics in parts of Israel? His antagonizing Russia? His jerking off publicly to the thought of war with Iran?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-02 12:38:38 PM  
Yes, the guy who goes to London to show off his diplomatic abilities and ends up in a public spat with the heads of both major parties is the guy who inspires confidence. Sure he is.
 
2012-10-02 12:40:07 PM  
Thinkers?!?

Haaahahaha!
 
2012-10-02 12:47:05 PM  
This is going to be give Romney some really easy points in the debates assuming, of course, he remains completely silent when economic issues come up.
 
2012-10-02 12:48:17 PM  
"If we echo loud enough, we'll echo some more!"
 
2012-10-02 12:50:39 PM  
Just wait until the foreign policy debate when Romney declares his intention to invade Siam.
 
2012-10-02 12:58:15 PM  
I still think the RNC is hiring angry out-of-work white dudes to post these threads. Hey man, its work you can do in your underwear!
 
2012-10-02 12:59:27 PM  
The actual poll

The money lines: Ratings on international affairs are inconclusive; on one hand Romney's narrowed the gap in trust to handle them, now 49-44 percent, Obama-Romney; on the other, measuring the two separately, 64 percent say Obama knows enough about world affairs to serve effectively, while fewer, 51 percent, say the same about Romney.

There also remain issues on which Obama clearly leads, vs. no such for Romney. Those include trust to handle terrorism (53-39 percent), a major crisis (52-42 percent), social issues such as abortion and gay marriage (52-38 percent) and women's issues (54-36 percent).


So the Weekly Standard's proof is that Obama is still slightly winning on a perennial Republican issue and that's why Obama is going to lose.
 
2012-10-02 01:06:45 PM  
Sure.
 
2012-10-02 01:07:58 PM  

DrySocket: I still think the RNC is hiring angry out-of-work white dudes to post these threads. Hey man, its work you can do in your underwear!


This *underwear* you speak of, can you tell me more
 
2012-10-02 01:21:27 PM  
I certainly don't trust the elitist, North Eastern, pro-choice, gun grabbing, healthcare mandating, son-of-an-immigrant, Liberal he's running against, either.
 
2012-10-02 01:28:11 PM  
"Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"
 
2012-10-02 01:46:07 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Thinkers?!?

Haaahahaha!


Y'know. Thinkers from America.
 
2012-10-02 02:22:31 PM  
www.theoccidentalobserver.net
 
2012-10-02 02:23:54 PM  

urban.derelict: [oakshirefinancial.com image 850x693]
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Fair enough and no argument, but what does that have to do with international affairs? I mean, other than tangentially.
 
2012-10-02 02:28:01 PM  
If you haven't picked between these two men at this poitn then you just aren't paying attention.
 
2012-10-02 02:29:19 PM  

Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"


not true in my case...I'm a registered independent since I was 18...but now there is no way I could be a Republican.

but I like to keep my mind open so I stay registered independent. I am not on either team.
 
2012-10-02 02:29:59 PM  
Huh. Must be talking about Fark IndependentsTM, since I've been registered Independent for 20 years now and I think Mittens would have trouble ordering a taco, much less dealing successfully with a complex foreign policy issue.
 
2012-10-02 02:30:34 PM  

jim32rr: DrySocket: I still think the RNC is hiring angry out-of-work white dudes to post these threads. Hey man, its work you can do in your underwear!

This *underwear* you speak of, can you tell me more


Well, for starters its magical, and you should wear it at your temple.
 
2012-10-02 02:31:02 PM  

CPennypacker: If you haven't picked between these two men at this poitn then you just aren't paying attention.


The SNL skit on questions undecided voters still have is priceless.
 
2012-10-02 02:31:27 PM  

Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"


I lol'd
 
2012-10-02 02:32:38 PM  
If Obama would use this statement, 'You're either with us or you are against us' to the world it would work as well as it did for Dubya, who was the worst at international affairs EVER.
 
2012-10-02 02:35:55 PM  

Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"


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2012-10-02 02:37:28 PM  
I hope those independents and thinkers hug their loved ones tight. Because Romney will draft them and send them off to war with Iran, like he said he would.

And I'm sure all of our volunteer military people are looking forward to serving beside draftees that don't want to be in a war with a nation 4 times the size of Iraq.

/We put 1.5 million military personnel into Iraq. That's why Romney will have to draft your kids, spouses and siblings. And you. But not him. Or his kids. Or his loved ones.
 
2012-10-02 02:41:08 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Thinkers?!?

Haaahahaha!


well, yeah. "American Thinkers"
 
2012-10-02 02:43:14 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I hope those independents and thinkers hug their loved ones tight. Because Romney will draft them and send them off to war with Iran, like he said he would.

And I'm sure all of our volunteer military people are looking forward to serving beside draftees that don't want to be in a war with a nation 4 times the size of Iraq.

/We put 1.5 million military personnel into Iraq. That's why Romney will have to draft your kids, spouses and siblings. And you. But not him. Or his kids. Or his loved ones.


maybe Romney will make all of their nuclear holocaust fantasy porn dreams come true. They can jack their tiny little dicks to all the suffering and destruction.
 
2012-10-02 02:43:14 PM  
Thus the spinning of Obama into Carter has begun...
 
2012-10-02 02:44:02 PM  

Osomatic: urban.derelict: [oakshirefinancial.com image 850x693]
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Fair enough and no argument, but what does that have to do with international affairs? I mean, other than tangentially.


Yeah really. What article did you read?
 
2012-10-02 02:47:35 PM  

pjbreeze: If Obama would use this statement, 'You're either with us or you are against us' to the world it would work as well as it did for Dubya, who was the worst at international affairs EVER.


The cut Dubya some slack because the new was developmentally delayed. Obama would roasted in hellfire for a similar comment.
 
2012-10-02 02:47:45 PM  
They're just pissed that he didn't automatically say Iran was behind the consulate attack, because it would have been a great pretext to attack Iran. That's what a Republican would have done.
 
2012-10-02 02:48:13 PM  

Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"


I thought those were Libertarians.
 
2012-10-02 02:48:26 PM  

deeproy: Thus the spinning of Obama into Carter has begun...


"Begun?" Where have you been for the past four years?
 
2012-10-02 02:49:20 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Poll respondents base their belief that Romney is better suited to handle international affairs on what? His stellar job of insulting Great Britain? His insults about Palestinian culture being responsible for shiatty economics in parts of Israel? His antagonizing Russia? His jerking off publicly to the thought of war with Iran?


Nope. It's because of his support for Israel's health care system...
 
2012-10-02 02:49:51 PM  
Interesting...

6b. (IF SUPPORT ROMNEY) Is your vote more for Romney, or more against Obama?

9/9/12 RV For Romney = 45 Against Obama = 50 No opinion = 5

9/8/04 RV For Kerry = 41 Against Bush = 55 No opinion= 4
 
2012-10-02 02:51:43 PM  

WizardofToast: Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"

I thought those were Libertarians.


no...Libertarians are Republicans that get high, man.
 
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2012-10-02 02:53:36 PM  
yeah, sure...get rmoney off the economy and on foreign policy. i think it's a trap.
 
2012-10-02 02:56:17 PM  
President Obama's middle eastern policy is not perfect and they got caught off guard in Libya, but I still prefer his approach over the invasion/nation building approache which seems the preferred Republican strategy.

President Obama's response to any accusations of weakness is to counter that we cannot afford the cost of lives and money to go on invading and rebuilding every nation we have a problem with. That being president is not like playing a game of Risk.
 
2012-10-02 02:58:05 PM  

urban.derelict: [oakshirefinancial.com image 850x693]
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Hah, from denial to moving the goal posts in just two posts. Not Bad, FARK... Not. Bad.
 
2012-10-02 03:02:27 PM  

CPennypacker: If you haven't picked between these two men at this poitn then you just aren't paying attention.


America's undecided voters need answers
 
2012-10-02 03:06:03 PM  

RolandGunner: urban.derelict: [oakshirefinancial.com image 850x693]
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Hah, from denial to moving the goal posts in just two posts. Not Bad, FARK... Not. Bad.


Yep, Romney's got this in the bag.
 
2012-10-02 03:06:50 PM  

FlashHarry: romney and ryan: zero foreign policy and/or military experience. *clinton voice* ZEE-ROH.



Which is funny because Obama ran on Biden's supposed IA experience then kept him as far from IA duties as possible. Which is also funny because the "Overcharge" button was so Biden.
 
2012-10-02 03:09:06 PM  

busy chillin': Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"

not true in my case...I'm a registered independent since I was 18...but now there is no way I could be a Republican.

but I like to keep my mind open so I stay registered independent. I am not on either team.


Hmm...an independent that is "not on either team." I find it hard to truely believe there exists independents out there. In our two-party society we are coded to sway one way or the other. And our system only reinforced this. Until a substantial candidate emerges that actually is middle of the road, and not beholden to party bosses, there will never be a true independent party. Sure you can be registered that way, but lets be completely honest, you'll end up voting for one of the main ones in the end.

But i dont blame you! Its not your fault our government is set up this way. It just means you independents need to be a bit more honest with yourselves, if you are going to end up voting for the Dem, dont be surprised when he/she does [insert issue here], or likewise for the republican.
 
2012-10-02 03:12:58 PM  
I love how this Libya attack is the canard they are gonna tie their campaign around. And they're so god damn stupid they chose to trot out this talking point on the week that they are having the domestic policy debate instead of waiting two weeks for the week of the foreign policy debates. As if people are still going to remember their talking points after we have 3 other debates that will suck up the media cycle.

Frankly the Libyan attack wasn't serious enough for this line to work. I'm not minimizing what happened, but 4 people dieing in one attack is just a bad car accident that happens every day in America.
 
2012-10-02 03:15:21 PM  

Le Grand Inquisitor: busy chillin': Bladel: "Independents" = "Bashful Republicans"

not true in my case...I'm a registered independent since I was 18...but now there is no way I could be a Republican.

but I like to keep my mind open so I stay registered independent. I am not on either team.

Hmm...an independent that is "not on either team." I find it hard to truely believe there exists independents out there. In our two-party society we are coded to sway one way or the other. And our system only reinforced this. Until a substantial candidate emerges that actually is middle of the road, and not beholden to party bosses, there will never be a true independent party. Sure you can be registered that way, but lets be completely honest, you'll end up voting for one of the main ones in the end.

But i dont blame you! Its not your fault our government is set up this way. It just means you independents need to be a bit more honest with yourselves, if you are going to end up voting for the Dem, dont be surprised when he/she does [insert issue here], or likewise for the republican.


No sh*t, Sherlock. I said I lean left...and couldn't be a Republican. But I see no reason to go change my affiliation to Democrat. And of course I am not surprised when a Democrat or Republican does something stereotypical of the party.
 
2012-10-02 03:19:33 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Poll respondents base their belief that Romney is better suited to handle international affairs on what? His stellar job of insulting Great Britain? His insults about Palestinian culture being responsible for shiatty economics in parts of Israel? His antagonizing Russia? His jerking off publicly to the thought of war with Iran?


And let's not forget he can't step foot in Italy due to his business dealings there as well.

Yes, it's a good thing for Obama that Romney is running against him, or else Obama might not look as good.
 
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